You should read the false-flag attack declassified govt document titled Operation Northwoods where government officials in the 1960s wanted to go to war with communism that they were willing to hijack civilian planes and crash them blaming it on Cubans in order to win support from the American people to go to war against communism, the plan was stated in the document. Also read up on project for a new american century.Those two documents are what convinced me to question the official story.
@pcgamer90 I've read both documents. I am not impressed with them as evidence of a false flag attack. I think the explanation is much more mundane and is tied in with a concept known as blowback.
These events which conspiracies are intertwined with... did not happen?
It's only on the internet, when the events they arose from are real world events?
Nobody can prove your working for the government, and nobody could ever prove to you that you are wrong - despite you seeing a lot of evidence. Jason Bermas, Alex Jones etc? If that's what your listening to you must have quite a skewed perception.
@checklefthook Still, i think you should take the fact that you can't disprove something that you find so unrealistic, as a failure to formulate a correct hypothesis regarding conspiracy theory. Perhaps your perception is ruining your understanding of this?
One can fail to prove you are a government oprative, because it's not true.
Still, by the same token - you cannot disprove the NWO, more than likely because it is real.
Mostly everything that people consider 'conspiracy theories' are able to be proven in one fashion or another. I mean people have the complete and utter most right to be angry with the Government, and we NEED people to be angry. We shouldn't just title them Conspiracy Theorist and throw it out the door because they believe 9/11 was an inside job but don't believe they put flouride in our tap water. What you call a might call a Theory can b a Reality to others this helps information flow, its good
You haven't encountered more than a handful of people in public who know about the NWO? Wow, I can't tell you HOW many people I've run into who are very well informed & know precisely what I'm talking about. I'd wonder how often you actually broach the subject? I mean, if you don't believe it, it's not likely you're out talking about it. OF COURSE it exists mostly on the Internet, ya' think the NWO-owned media is promoting it?? But 9 MILLION viewers of Obama Deception -- people ARE waking up!
@bethsbabies Glenn Beck talks about it. I throw in "What about building 7?" as a non-sequitur any 9 times out of 10 people don't get the reference. 9 million viewers of Obama Deception? *shrug* I watched it. I'm still "asleep." I constantly make references to conspiracy theories as a joke in my every day life and most people have no idea what I'm talking about. I guess people are going to "wake up" and hit the dislike button on my videos. Oh no. I'm scared.
Given that stress can cause all manner of physical illness, I'd be very interested to know what effect believing in CTs has over time.
Surely living in a "global slavestate" where one might be brainwashed or incarcerated at any moment must be incredibly trying to one's nerves?
Add to that a sedentary online lifestyle and the fact that they can't go to the doctor because "big pharma are in on it" and you really could have a recipe for ill-health.
@asubjectiveopinion Yeah. I'm curious as well. I'm told by so many of them that they aren't afraid. They don't live in fear. However, if you sincerely believed these things I'd think fear would be pretty damn reasonable but yeah.. it is intriguing.
@NWOisBunk NIST admited that ''a freefall descent over approximately eight storys at gravitational acceleration for approximately 2.25 seconds'' took place with WTC 7. That was released in the NCSTAR 1-9 607 (november 2008).
Don't forget the streams of molten steel, the collapse through the path of greatest resistance, or the pulverisation of 70% of its structure into fine dust (something that has never been observed in any gravtationally driven collapse).
@NWOisBunk Yeah, okay pal, you just keep telling yourself that. You can't even refute the citation I gave you on one subject, so how would you be able to keep up with dozens of them? Frankly, giving up is the smart thing to do.
@TheJamesrocket I doubt its a valid citation. I mean... why don't you call the FBI if you're serious. If you've got evidence of a crime. Call the FBI. Don't try to convince me. If you do have all this evidence.... why has the 9/11 Truth movement accomplished precisely nothing?
@NWOisBunk 'I doubt its a valid citation.' That statement came from NIST itself. Remember? The agency who investigated the WTC 7 collapse.
'why has the 9/11 Truth movement accomplished precisely nothing?' Because, dude, its a conspiracy? I thought you were a great expert on the delusions of 911 truthers.
'When did they begin prepping WTC 7 for demolition anyway?' Much is known about the rigging for the twin towers. Watch: 9/11 Explosive Connections - The 9/11 Masterminds.
The easiest way to debunk the NWO/Illuminati/ZOG conspiracy theory is to simply encourage people to read the source material that it uses as proof.
Anyone who actually bothers to read 'Tragedy & Hope', for example, will find that most of the quotes are taken out of context and many of them are simply made-up.
The problem is getting them to listen to someone from outside without having them accuse you of being "disinfo" or a "sheeple" (their terms for non cult-members) and becoming defensive.
The effect conspiracies have is on the people who believe them. I likely would have stopped had I not been emailed by a guy who watched my truther confrontation vids and realized how stupid cts are. He lives in my city and I met him. He told me about the horror he was going through believing that FEMA camp guards were going to kill him. He is a good, smart guy and I'm very glad that I helped him. I have had others tell me similar things through email, so it does make a difference.
George Bush sr quote of NWO is like Larry Silverstein quote of pull it. A conspiratorial mastermind wouldn't unwrap their plot on national television nor speak it openly like its an enigma.
Can we drop the word "theory"? We all know what a conspiracy is, but if it's an actual theory, that means there's some truth to it. Call it a conspiracy hypothesis, or a conspiracy guess, or something like that.
And about OBL, all I have to say is it took them a hell of a long time, didn't it? Where were their priorities before that? I'm not saying the "theory" was true, but god damn, man...
I've tried reasonable disputation with the CT crowd myself and found that they are not amenable to reason. Its like debating religion with a "true believer". No amount of fact, logic and authoritative sources will persuade them. Just call them "fascist dupes" and be done with it.
The reason you don't know c.ts in public is people like you SHEEP make us look crazy instead of open minded.
timb691 3 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
You should read the false-flag attack declassified govt document titled Operation Northwoods where government officials in the 1960s wanted to go to war with communism that they were willing to hijack civilian planes and crash them blaming it on Cubans in order to win support from the American people to go to war against communism, the plan was stated in the document. Also read up on project for a new american century.Those two documents are what convinced me to question the official story.
pcgamer90 1 month ago
@pcgamer90 I've read both documents. I am not impressed with them as evidence of a false flag attack. I think the explanation is much more mundane and is tied in with a concept known as blowback.
NWOisBunk 1 month ago
lol, you should know that you can't have a intelligent and respectful debate on YouTube
emildaman 1 month ago
"conspiracy theories only exist on the internet"?
So 9/11 didnt happen?
WWII didnt happen?
These events which conspiracies are intertwined with... did not happen?
It's only on the internet, when the events they arose from are real world events?
Nobody can prove your working for the government, and nobody could ever prove to you that you are wrong - despite you seeing a lot of evidence. Jason Bermas, Alex Jones etc? If that's what your listening to you must have quite a skewed perception.
checklefthook 1 month ago
@checklefthook Still, i think you should take the fact that you can't disprove something that you find so unrealistic, as a failure to formulate a correct hypothesis regarding conspiracy theory. Perhaps your perception is ruining your understanding of this?
One can fail to prove you are a government oprative, because it's not true.
Still, by the same token - you cannot disprove the NWO, more than likely because it is real.
checklefthook 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
The illuminati is shit. The freemasonsaee shit. But the corporate bankers controlling the USA is the only conspiracy hypothesis that makes sense.
TheCaptainjuicy 1 month ago
Because the internet is very powerful.....because you can write something on the internet and it will stay there forever
alexjonesviewer 5 months ago
Mostly everything that people consider 'conspiracy theories' are able to be proven in one fashion or another. I mean people have the complete and utter most right to be angry with the Government, and we NEED people to be angry. We shouldn't just title them Conspiracy Theorist and throw it out the door because they believe 9/11 was an inside job but don't believe they put flouride in our tap water. What you call a might call a Theory can b a Reality to others this helps information flow, its good
maniac7553 8 months ago
Chris Chandler is that you???
rji 8 months ago
@rji Chris Chandler did 9/11.
NWOisBunk 8 months ago
You haven't encountered more than a handful of people in public who know about the NWO? Wow, I can't tell you HOW many people I've run into who are very well informed & know precisely what I'm talking about. I'd wonder how often you actually broach the subject? I mean, if you don't believe it, it's not likely you're out talking about it. OF COURSE it exists mostly on the Internet, ya' think the NWO-owned media is promoting it?? But 9 MILLION viewers of Obama Deception -- people ARE waking up!
bethsbabies 9 months ago
@bethsbabies Glenn Beck talks about it. I throw in "What about building 7?" as a non-sequitur any 9 times out of 10 people don't get the reference. 9 million viewers of Obama Deception? *shrug* I watched it. I'm still "asleep." I constantly make references to conspiracy theories as a joke in my every day life and most people have no idea what I'm talking about. I guess people are going to "wake up" and hit the dislike button on my videos. Oh no. I'm scared.
NWOisBunk 9 months ago
Given that stress can cause all manner of physical illness, I'd be very interested to know what effect believing in CTs has over time.
Surely living in a "global slavestate" where one might be brainwashed or incarcerated at any moment must be incredibly trying to one's nerves?
Add to that a sedentary online lifestyle and the fact that they can't go to the doctor because "big pharma are in on it" and you really could have a recipe for ill-health.
I'd be intigued to know.
asubjectiveopinion 9 months ago
@asubjectiveopinion Yeah. I'm curious as well. I'm told by so many of them that they aren't afraid. They don't live in fear. However, if you sincerely believed these things I'd think fear would be pretty damn reasonable but yeah.. it is intriguing.
NWOisBunk 9 months ago
@NWOisBunk Okay. Whats your opinion on the september 11th attacks. Any idea how those towers fell at free fall speed?
TheJamesrocket 1 month ago
@TheJamesrocket Kindly provide a citation for the towers falling at free fall speed.
NWOisBunk 1 month ago
@NWOisBunk NIST admited that ''a freefall descent over approximately eight storys at gravitational acceleration for approximately 2.25 seconds'' took place with WTC 7. That was released in the NCSTAR 1-9 607 (november 2008).
Don't forget the streams of molten steel, the collapse through the path of greatest resistance, or the pulverisation of 70% of its structure into fine dust (something that has never been observed in any gravtationally driven collapse).
TheJamesrocket 1 month ago
@TheJamesrocket Yeah. Don't care. I don't even know why I asked.
NWOisBunk 1 month ago
@NWOisBunk Of course you wouldn't claim to care, because thats a noose you know you can't work your way out of. No guts, no glory.
TheJamesrocket 1 month ago
@TheJamesrocket There is no noose and there are no guts required. You've got no evidence hence no new investigation and no indictments.
NWOisBunk 1 month ago
@NWOisBunk Yeah, okay pal, you just keep telling yourself that. You can't even refute the citation I gave you on one subject, so how would you be able to keep up with dozens of them? Frankly, giving up is the smart thing to do.
TheJamesrocket 1 month ago
@TheJamesrocket I doubt its a valid citation. I mean... why don't you call the FBI if you're serious. If you've got evidence of a crime. Call the FBI. Don't try to convince me. If you do have all this evidence.... why has the 9/11 Truth movement accomplished precisely nothing?
NWOisBunk 4 weeks ago
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@NWOisBunk 'I doubt its a valid citation.' That statement came from NIST itself. Remember? The agency who investigated the WTC 7 collapse.
'why has the 9/11 Truth movement accomplished precisely nothing?' Because, dude, its a conspiracy? I thought you were a great expert on the delusions of 911 truthers.
'When did they begin prepping WTC 7 for demolition anyway?' Much is known about the rigging for the twin towers. Watch: 9/11 Explosive Connections - The 9/11 Masterminds.
TheJamesrocket 3 weeks ago
@TheJamesrocket When did they begin prepping WTC 7 for demolition anyway? How was it done?
NWOisBunk 4 weeks ago
Do not let the burden of being reasonable get in the way of your enjoyment of not being crazy.
Dissent1 9 months ago
i agree that nwo is crap and so is illuminati but i have never heard any explantions for the symbolism which is everywhere
Tommy4216 9 months ago
You should take on more of an amazing atheist demeanor. Being stoic and reasonable isn't entertaining.
uglyguido 9 months ago
The easiest way to debunk the NWO/Illuminati/ZOG conspiracy theory is to simply encourage people to read the source material that it uses as proof.
Anyone who actually bothers to read 'Tragedy & Hope', for example, will find that most of the quotes are taken out of context and many of them are simply made-up.
The problem is getting them to listen to someone from outside without having them accuse you of being "disinfo" or a "sheeple" (their terms for non cult-members) and becoming defensive.
asubjectiveopinion 9 months ago
The effect conspiracies have is on the people who believe them. I likely would have stopped had I not been emailed by a guy who watched my truther confrontation vids and realized how stupid cts are. He lives in my city and I met him. He told me about the horror he was going through believing that FEMA camp guards were going to kill him. He is a good, smart guy and I'm very glad that I helped him. I have had others tell me similar things through email, so it does make a difference.
dsglop 9 months ago
You cannot reason with an unreasonable person.
TheEvilOfScientology 9 months ago
George Bush sr quote of NWO is like Larry Silverstein quote of pull it. A conspiratorial mastermind wouldn't unwrap their plot on national television nor speak it openly like its an enigma.
warlord2080 9 months ago
Can we drop the word "theory"? We all know what a conspiracy is, but if it's an actual theory, that means there's some truth to it. Call it a conspiracy hypothesis, or a conspiracy guess, or something like that.
And about OBL, all I have to say is it took them a hell of a long time, didn't it? Where were their priorities before that? I'm not saying the "theory" was true, but god damn, man...
Donatellangelo 9 months ago
@Donatellangelo The priorities were with fighting a war in Iraq for 8 years.
jazzfan5000 9 months ago
vinegar kills chemtrails
I AM AWAKE!
TheChemtard 9 months ago
Debunking madness is madness.
dilemmatime2 9 months ago
Conspiracy theorists like to project at others "you are a loser" "you should get out more" etc.
ThatGuysSockAccount 9 months ago
I find on the internet CT are all over the place, but in real life they are few and far between.
it is still worth it to debunk them because I am sure that people on the fence would like to hear the rational point of view about CT
mocking CT always makes for a good YT video
TheUnmaskedMagician 9 months ago
How does one debunk that which does not exist.
RonaldoDeLosMuertos 9 months ago
@RonaldoDeLosMuertos Wow yeah.. I don't know lol
NWOisBunk 9 months ago
I've tried reasonable disputation with the CT crowd myself and found that they are not amenable to reason. Its like debating religion with a "true believer". No amount of fact, logic and authoritative sources will persuade them. Just call them "fascist dupes" and be done with it.
igd93 9 months ago
Just carry on mocking them. Someone has to do it :)
BespokeGroupUK 9 months ago