I don't see McCain veto pen anymore anybody noticed. The Pen he raises up when threatening to veto earmarks, do you remmember that pen? I like to see that again
thats how they do it... i use to respect McCaine before he started using cue cards and hireing big oil lobbyists for his campain team.. from Mavrick 2 Puppet... Obama '08
"Each class or course in comprehensive sex education offered in any of grades K through 12 shall include instruction on the prevention of sexually transmitted infections, including the prevention, transmission and spread of HIV."
tell me how you teach that "age appropriately" to kindergartners.
It's quite simple, really. Here would be a sample of what they'd tell Kindergartners:
"Now kids, there's this really bad disease out there called HIV, and a lot of people have it. It's spread through the blood and other body fluids, so if you get your blood mixed up with someone else's, or it gets in your eyes, you need to tell an adult immediately."
Something like that. I had a similar talk with my parents when I was 7, and I asked them what HIV was.
the example you give has nothing to do with "sexually transmitted". nor how to prevent "sexually transmitted infections". nor do you say how HIV is "sexually transmitted". as would have been required by law.
Fuckin' Youtube and its site maintenance. Alright, let me restart this.
HIV is an STD. STDs are not spread exclusively through sexual contact, and recognizing the other ways in which they can be contracted is key to prevention. Furthermore, the bill demands that the curriculum be age-appropriate, which means you don't go telling elementary students about explicit sex. You can leave that for grades 8-12.
No matter how you try to cherry-pick it, you're still defending the indefensible here. John McCain falsely claimed that Obama had, as his "One accomplishment," passed this bill which taught Kindergartners about sex. This is completely false. No matter how hard you try to convince yourself otherwise, the fact remains that your candidate lied, and he shamelessly stuck by that lie.
So tell me, do you still think there is any truth left to his ad?
i agree with your points here that this isn't Obama's "one accomplishment"- certainly it isn't an accomplishment. especially since the rest of the General Assembly saw it for what it was, and the bill was never passed.
You're starting to touch upon something very important here. It wouldn't have been an "Accomplishment." Even if it was, it wouldn't have been his "Only Accomplishment", as stated in the ad (Look up the Chicago Education Reform Act of 2003 and Illinois Gen. Assembly Bill HB0060 for two examples of reforms he DID pass).
Furthermore, even if it did pass, it wasn't Barack's bill. He was neither a sponsor nor a cosponsor. He couldn't claim credit to it even if he wanted to. Check the bill and see.
So now I ask you: Is John McCain's ad true? That's the central issue here, the one you called me out on at the offset.
It was not Obama's "One Accomplishment."
It could never have been his "One Accomplishment."
And frankly, the bill is not perverted as McCain made it out to be.
Can you now, in good conscience, argue that this political advertisement was produced for any other purpose then to score cheap political points, that it was made to expose the truth, given what we have learned here?
Oh, but I have. I even linked to it. The bill is very explicit when it states that it will only apply to age appropriate material, and that parents have the option to opt out their kids without any question whatsoever.
"Each class or course in comprehensive sex education offered in any of grades K through 12 shall include instruction on the prevention of sexually transmitted infections, including the prevention, transmission and spread of HIV"
and the "age appropriate" clauses further down and in another section.
420Engineer: Obama supported a bill that would teach kids to be wary of strangers trying to pick them up and sexually touch/assault and when he made the lipstick comment, it was about Bush's presidency, not Palin. Seems like Republicans don't know what the words ethical, moral, truthful and respect mean. Do your research next time, although I know it's hard for you Republicans, who can apparently pull "facts" out of nowhere.
John McCain DID NOT LIE! Obama supported EXTREME sex ed for 5 year olds...read for your self and don't beleive Obama or the media!!! You will need to remove the spaces or I can't post: johnmccain . com / Informing / News / PressReleases / 73f18a26-711a-44be-8034-20fec4fb6a89 . htm
OBAMA IS A LIAR!!! SHAME ON HIM FOR CALLING MCCAIN PERVERSE!!!
McCain DID NOT LIE!!! Obama DID vote for it, and it's NOT just about protecting kids! It tought 5-8 year olds about masturbation, homosexuality, abortion and STD's. Read for your self at siecus web site. Obama should be ashamed for lying about McCain and calling him perverse for simply stating the truth about Obama!!!! McCain implied nothing, he stated the truth. Facts are not smear ads!!! Screw factcheckorg...read the bill for yourself!
The so-called "sex education for kindergardeners" is teaching kids to be wary of strangers trying to pick them up, and teaching them about improper touching.
Even Bill O'reilly says this charge against Obama is BS.
FYI-The " bill" was not even a bill, it was a committee recommendation and Obama didn't write it. He simply agreed with it.
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
You all know damn well that Obama's remarks were directed towards Palin, so did his croud, loud laughs and cheers. Just like he flipped Hillary the finger, not just once but twice.
Lucky for you I had already made a video refuting those very claims. There are others out there as well on Youtube, should you be interested in educating yourself.
DAMN! McCain got PWNED on/by the view!!!
RumbleHD 3 years ago 3
I don't see McCain veto pen anymore anybody noticed. The Pen he raises up when threatening to veto earmarks, do you remmember that pen? I like to see that again
warrenstone2000 3 years ago
thats how they do it... i use to respect McCaine before he started using cue cards and hireing big oil lobbyists for his campain team.. from Mavrick 2 Puppet... Obama '08
blacmob 3 years ago
"Each class or course in comprehensive sex education offered in any of grades K through 12 shall include instruction on the prevention of sexually transmitted infections, including the prevention, transmission and spread of HIV."
tell me how you teach that "age appropriately" to kindergartners.
mattbrockmd 3 years ago
It's quite simple, really. Here would be a sample of what they'd tell Kindergartners:
"Now kids, there's this really bad disease out there called HIV, and a lot of people have it. It's spread through the blood and other body fluids, so if you get your blood mixed up with someone else's, or it gets in your eyes, you need to tell an adult immediately."
Something like that. I had a similar talk with my parents when I was 7, and I asked them what HIV was.
Kni7es 3 years ago
I'll give you another example, straight out of my playbook. About 2 years ago my little brother (now 11) asked me what his testicles were for.
"Well, that's where a lot of the genetic information in your body is stored." I told him.
"Oh," he said. "Then why don't girls have them?"
"Girls have something just like that, but it's inside their bodies. It's just one of the ways boys and girls are different."
You should always talk to your kids about sex, just in different ways for different ages.
Kni7es 3 years ago
the example you give has nothing to do with "sexually transmitted". nor how to prevent "sexually transmitted infections". nor do you say how HIV is "sexually transmitted". as would have been required by law.
mattbrockmd 3 years ago
Fuckin' Youtube and its site maintenance. Alright, let me restart this.
HIV is an STD. STDs are not spread exclusively through sexual contact, and recognizing the other ways in which they can be contracted is key to prevention. Furthermore, the bill demands that the curriculum be age-appropriate, which means you don't go telling elementary students about explicit sex. You can leave that for grades 8-12.
Kni7es 3 years ago
No matter how you try to cherry-pick it, you're still defending the indefensible here. John McCain falsely claimed that Obama had, as his "One accomplishment," passed this bill which taught Kindergartners about sex. This is completely false. No matter how hard you try to convince yourself otherwise, the fact remains that your candidate lied, and he shamelessly stuck by that lie.
So tell me, do you still think there is any truth left to his ad?
Kni7es 3 years ago
i agree with your points here that this isn't Obama's "one accomplishment"- certainly it isn't an accomplishment. especially since the rest of the General Assembly saw it for what it was, and the bill was never passed.
mattbrockmd 3 years ago
You're starting to touch upon something very important here. It wouldn't have been an "Accomplishment." Even if it was, it wouldn't have been his "Only Accomplishment", as stated in the ad (Look up the Chicago Education Reform Act of 2003 and Illinois Gen. Assembly Bill HB0060 for two examples of reforms he DID pass).
Furthermore, even if it did pass, it wasn't Barack's bill. He was neither a sponsor nor a cosponsor. He couldn't claim credit to it even if he wanted to. Check the bill and see.
Kni7es 3 years ago
So now I ask you: Is John McCain's ad true? That's the central issue here, the one you called me out on at the offset.
It was not Obama's "One Accomplishment."
It could never have been his "One Accomplishment."
And frankly, the bill is not perverted as McCain made it out to be.
Can you now, in good conscience, argue that this political advertisement was produced for any other purpose then to score cheap political points, that it was made to expose the truth, given what we have learned here?
Kni7es 3 years ago
all of these people saying "mccain lied" obviously haven't read the bill. read the bill. quit living in ignorance.
mattbrockmd 3 years ago
Oh, but I have. I even linked to it. The bill is very explicit when it states that it will only apply to age appropriate material, and that parents have the option to opt out their kids without any question whatsoever.
Kni7es 3 years ago
Great that you read it. so the question is:
how do you reconcile these two:
"Each class or course in comprehensive sex education offered in any of grades K through 12 shall include instruction on the prevention of sexually transmitted infections, including the prevention, transmission and spread of HIV"
and the "age appropriate" clauses further down and in another section.
that is the question. what is your answer?
mattbrockmd 3 years ago
Yea, mattbitchmd, shut the fuck up. Unless you're illiterate when it comes to reading senate bills. Fuckfaced dumbass.
AFallenLord 3 years ago
wow.
mattbrockmd 3 years ago
420Engineer: Obama supported a bill that would teach kids to be wary of strangers trying to pick them up and sexually touch/assault and when he made the lipstick comment, it was about Bush's presidency, not Palin. Seems like Republicans don't know what the words ethical, moral, truthful and respect mean. Do your research next time, although I know it's hard for you Republicans, who can apparently pull "facts" out of nowhere.
redwings1952 3 years ago
Hopefully, McCain will suffer a massive heart attack very soon!
Obama for President.
RobbieJess2579 3 years ago
John McCain DID NOT LIE! Obama supported EXTREME sex ed for 5 year olds...read for your self and don't beleive Obama or the media!!! You will need to remove the spaces or I can't post: johnmccain . com / Informing / News / PressReleases / 73f18a26-711a-44be-8034-20fec4fb6a89 . htm
OBAMA IS A LIAR!!! SHAME ON HIM FOR CALLING MCCAIN PERVERSE!!!
420Engineer 3 years ago
And shame on you for not reading the bill. Do it, pussy.
AFallenLord 3 years ago
McCain DID NOT LIE!!! Obama DID vote for it, and it's NOT just about protecting kids! It tought 5-8 year olds about masturbation, homosexuality, abortion and STD's. Read for your self at siecus web site. Obama should be ashamed for lying about McCain and calling him perverse for simply stating the truth about Obama!!!! McCain implied nothing, he stated the truth. Facts are not smear ads!!! Screw factcheckorg...read the bill for yourself!
420Engineer 3 years ago
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commentkiller 3 years ago
McCain has said this more then once about clinton,so stop crying mcCain he shouldn't have said it blah blah blah go cry!!
watsonberry 3 years ago
monkey-
The so-called "sex education for kindergardeners" is teaching kids to be wary of strangers trying to pick them up, and teaching them about improper touching.
Even Bill O'reilly says this charge against Obama is BS.
FYI-The " bill" was not even a bill, it was a committee recommendation and Obama didn't write it. He simply agreed with it.
Why is John McCain for sexual predators?
givethemahand 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
You all know damn well that Obama's remarks were directed towards Palin, so did his croud, loud laughs and cheers. Just like he flipped Hillary the finger, not just once but twice.
pasmalltowngirl 3 years ago
Lucky for you I had already made a video refuting those very claims. There are others out there as well on Youtube, should you be interested in educating yourself.
watch?v=u-1bODWwOA4
Prove me wrong.
Kni7es 3 years ago
Go Joy
I used to respect Mc Cain but he has totally sold out his integrity
evans54 3 years ago 10