is evolution losing credibility in scientific community HELL NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
everyone who is teaching creationist bullshit can kiss his career goodbye
ID and creationism is only active in the US thats it the rest of the WHOLE WORLD doesnt even know the existing of ID and creationism this including CHINA INDIA AUSTRALIA JAPAN EUROPE CAMBRIDGE OXFORD
ONLY IN AMERICA and in america not even in the scientific community only debatted in high schools and among the un-educated lower class
@AdrianDeMoxica23 your statement shows how very ignorant you are - Walter Veith is NOT American, He is not in America. I am not in America. Are you trying to claim that Americans are the only ones capable of thinking for themselves and questioning the science bereft religion of evolution? I can tell you for a fact they are not. creation science foundation IS in Australia - Australians ARE capable of thinking for themselves.
He inserts a doubt with the argument "why is everything in clusters" BUT never mention gravity! Gravity on the other side PERFECTLY explain the shapes we see. This man is corrupted science who may be got monet to speak such things in public in order to keep the audience ignorant and in delusion so the masters can rule them unquestioned.
@whiteninja1976 You saw this? Was the baby dropped into the enclosure? Was it OK when they recovered it? Wow, I never heard about this, but it reminds me of video I have seen involving a gorilla and a young boy who fell into a zoo enclosure.
Walter J Veith has a PhD in zoology from the University of Cape Town . Was a university biology department head , had PhD track grad students in his labs that he mentored and was their major professor . , and believed and taught evolution as strongly as anyone .
do you guys even know the history behind this guy? Check out his testimony. He was an avid evolutionist for 20-30 years, but found God by all the studies he had done. If you guys believe in evolution, please show me just 1 transitional fossil undergoing some type of evolution
@veggiescrub. u r right. i'm in uk. The subject here is not first language though u might think u r on a plus if its ur first language. away from that..i realize in ur post you don't strive to correct the supposed lies or lack of knowledge on the presenter..you are on attack mode..like an ambushed animal..what is plausible about evln''theory? the big bang..hydrogen collider trying to invent life from a collision..inorder to put more weight on the bigbang? misguided 'science' & waste of time.
we are all mutants, our genes are all different from each other. natural selection is when a disease comes, the person with the gene that makes the person immune will live on and pass down his gene and his traits, while the 1 with genes that doesnt give immunity dies, thus his genes are not pass down. Over the course of several generations of natural selection, the person with the genes that allows him to survive in that local environment is considered evolved from the first generation
omg im a first year geology/biology/chemistry student, and i can tell he explained everything wrongly. ok not everything but most of it. he does not have a full understanding of anything.
@operatorlink thats why u r a first yr...straight from high school...calm down and from those exposing the lie of so called 'science' of evolution and the pretence of geology science.
This dude is so stupid. "If I have an explosion in a vacuum..:" that's enough. The big bang FORMED space and time. There wouldn't be any vacuum without ist, so the rest of the sentence must be completely fail.
Explaining things to a creationist is like explaining things to a dog.
They look at you with a stupified look on their face, they'll maybe bark a few times, then off it goes to piss on a nearby tree and crap on your lawn.
Some might actually be deprogrammed but creationism so ingrained in their heads that there is usually no hope. That's the problem with Biblical literalism and assuming it is inerrant and without fault.
@confoundtheidols BTW "evolutionist" is a word coined by scientifically ignorant YEC's. It's meaningless.
Evidence, independent peer review, and repeatability is the basis for scientific principles and research. YEC's only have their particular interpretation of certain Bible verses with no physical evidence to support their assertions. They assume the Bible is the literal "Word of God", make shit up to fit and make no effort to verify it or put it forward for scrutiny. They don't get it.
Scientists are really having a hard time finding solid evidence for the evolution theory. All the films I have been watching explaining the big bang leave out important evidence contradicting to their explanations, they will explain how it is obvious that the universe is expanding from a single point in the universe due to red shift but scientists are finding just as much blue shift (cosmic material moving inwards). Top scientists are trying to make false evidence look true by telling only half
@Zooboy7000 No, solid evidence for the theory of evolution and examples of the fact of evolution are being published all the time. Blue shifts observed are entirely consistent with the big bang model and 'top scientists' publish frequently. Why not enroll onto a foundation science course at a real college and then you will be able to read scientific publications yourself and can stop trying to learn from people like this liar/idiot? Reality is beautiful and really worth learning about.
evolution is a LIE and scientists know it!! They just don't wanna discredit themselves after they've created this whole picture in people's minds of them being know it alls jst coz they've decided to dedicate time to research.ooh the politics behind research's incredible. who wud wanna contribute a million dollars to ur project and have u give them -ve results?? NO 1. who would even fund you for that? they're jst puppets as much as presidents are bt thumbs up to the few stuff that've
that've contributed greatly to dealing with diseases. the rest esp in this age's pure B.S. Trying to get attention to themselves looking like 'little gods'. in case pple dint know 1 of the major scientific encyclopedia (al get the exact reference& post it) even mentions the dating system is FLAWED bt lo and behold pple still talk abt there being millions of years.ooh and the guy who drew embryos of humans/animals saying they were similar disclosed that he only did alterations to the human 1! LOL
and even after admitting that intelligent humans still go out there believing that we really did evolve from animals coz our embryos look alike eeh??? when all he did was draw the human embryo in a different way. SHEEESH!! I'd rather be dumb believing God (coz the bible's already predicted that's what i'll look like to other people) than have myself believing i came from some animal.
@azzy314159 At least these people are willing to consider another perspective with an open mind. Are you willing to hear reasonable discussions or are you about blind hatred or blind anger at someone who sees things differently from yourself? LISTEN TO THE ARGUMENTS!
@MrEvenkeel1 I have listened VERY carefully indeed. The creationists have no ligic whatsoever. This man knows nothing about geology or he chooses to ignore it. For sanity's sake study geological science carefully and compare with what this chappie says. he just challanges and dismisses science. he has no explanation for things. just nay nay all science. And I am not some junior school dropout. all his arguments lead back to god. After that there is no need for thinking, study or research.
@lieutenantnobody It is not fair to pick on a typo. I am not an under educated ignoramus. And I am not insinuating that you are. But please for the sake of honesty where is his reasoning. I am ready to listen to any body but can not afford to hear out this sort of drivel. After listening to him for a few minutes I feel no further need to subject myself to this. Giving one's ear to "some one who sees things differently" does not require that I listen to every cookie who comes along.
@azzy314159 Lol! Well, I can't blame you. This is a touchy subject. I find that in the end it's better to just not waste your time on those who don't want to see or apply facts decently (or even understand the other side's argument, for that matter). Ignorance is bliss; intentional ignorance is not.
All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.
2.15 "that's the basis for the entire evolutionary theory". Sorry chum but no it's not. The fossil record is one strand in a massive tapestry of evidence.
6:30 he is using a comparison of something acting within an atmosphere, and something acting in the vacuum of space. The fact that he simplifies incorrectly for these people does not insult them? It in powers them in disillusion.
@syros69er When you make statements like these you need to be specific about what he said and what you are saying to refute him otherwise it's just arguing in a vacuum.
They'll make all the universities lecturers out of job, if every the American believe in creationist, the whole evolutionist education system will be demolish, I'm looking forward for that day.
Is not that what the Talibans have done in Afghanistan? They did remove the science education and replaced it with Creationism. So if you look forward to that......
I can't believe that he actually stated that all of the adults in that room know about the Jurassic period because of the movie Jurassic Park. If that were true, then it would perfectly explain the number of creationists still in existence.
@xlanciferionx He is talking about what is familiar. Then he explains the science using scientific data from highly credentialed scientists then points out the weaknesses using illustrations anyone educated in science or not can understand. Sounds reasonable. Get away from emotionalism and deal with your constant character bashing. Discuss the presentation not the people!
You forgot to credit Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon for your music.
That aside, the presenter is very good at what he does. The best way to tell a lie is to bring in half truths. I'm sure he believes what he is saying, because he doesn't understand science. He didn't read the article on the decline of the Big Bang in full, but if it was from a scientific journal, then I'm sure it was pointing out that as science is gathering more knowledge, they are adjusting accordingly.
this video proves nothing.. carbon dating isnt accurate. why are alligators still alligators? world wide flood? the bible has been more accurate then any sciences to how the world today and thousand of years ago.
@TheMustangfan101 I'm missing your point. He doesn't believe in evolution, he's a creationist. He believes there was a world wide flood, and that Noah gathered 2 animals of every type from the 7 continents and kept them together on a little boat and then returned them to their native climates to carry on with their lives. Yeah, that's accurate, just like the rest of that silly bible thing.
@opacapaca Well duh, it's rather obvious isn't it. After all there are snakes. Why in the hell would evolution create a legless animal? Duh, god did it as punishment. The only punishment evolution can dish out is extinction. Clearly snakes aren't extinct. Clearly a creature couldn't have evolved with such a disadvantage. Clearly there was a flood, and the snakes would have drowned if it weren't for Noah. Jees some people are so thick. Do I need to explain it any clearer? ;-}
OH MY GAD, the global flood did not happen, yust like noone ever build an ark and playced all the gad dam animals on it, you brainDead fuck.......Did the kengerus swin over to australia???? Yuse your gad dam brain O.O
@Aikwood666 Noah returned all the animals to their rightful habitats after the flood. It is spelled out clearly in the lost books of the bible. Jees, some people just don't want to do the research.
@MrJurekGG The scary thing is, that even though this "idiot," doesn't have enough curiosity to study the science he pretends to know, he makes himself sound credible. And while he's talking to all those precooked zombies they think what he saying is not just plausible, but proof that science is a mess and can't be trusted. He lacks curiosity, but he has a smooth delivery, and mixes in a few facts with all the lies. Scary that someone with intelligence won't take the time to learn.
Every time I see people like him, I've got that growling lump in my throat.
Who are these morons? Where did they come from ? Did someone stopped them from reading the science books? He is a puppet, a religious mannequin who assumes that his brain posses the analyzing capabilities. Does he wants to impress even more scientific' dumb imbeciles, than himself?
Moreover, there is a long list of these batshit fucktards.
@veggiescrub u r really rattled, and thats not how a 'super human' like you handles opposing views..or is it a luck of 'evolutionary' progression?mmm..may be!
@gkims2007 Though you are from the United Kingdom based on your page, it doesn't appear that English is your first language. Do you actually have something to add to the discussion, or should I just mark you as SPAM?
@MrJurekGG Another academically dishonest Creationist speaker and his traveling road show shoveling intelligent sounding b.s. to the scientifically ignorant lemmings. Please contribute $20 to his new Lexus.
@MrJurekGG You are a freaken morron if you believe you and your momma came from an animal hahahahah that guy made perfect sence with all the evidence, people like you wanna continue to be blinded by all theese lies they feed you.. your an ignorant fuck.
He's a brainless, moronic, full of shit, dishonest, deluded, religious, batshit cretard, who should to be arrested on the spot, for abusing the school children, if only by talking to them, with the crap of his.
We talking in here about the a brainless, moronic, full of shit, dishonest, deluded, religious, batshit cretard, who should to be arrested on the spot, for abusing the school children, if only by talking to them, with this crap of his.
@MrJurekGG instead of cursing and hurling abuses, just comment which points in the video were not scientific, explain why it was so IN ERROR!! I'm interested in listening to what facts refute what he said.
This dishonest, brainless idiot is entirely an error!
Debunking his idiocies it's like taking part in his world of dumbness. It's like showing him a respect for his opinion about the science and about world that surrounds us.
It's like equalizing with him on the same level. It's like giving him a credit which he absolutely don't deserve.
Enough is fucking enough. These people should be neutralized by a common sense and a healthy dose of reason.
@11thhourministry ''If I have an explosion in a vacuum...'' The BIg Bang was not an exposion into a vacuum, it was an expansion of Space-time. And Gravity makes things in space come together.
He starts with the Geologic Colunm but then goes off subject to the Beginning of the universe ?!?
Darwin wrote, 'Origin of Species'' not the origin of the universe.
@gregrutz Question: No one was there? (right) so how do you KNOW FOR A FACT (evidence based) that any explosion happend? You quote Dr Veith, but he is only trying to refute a theory that is taught, so its NOT HIM WHO SAID or INVENTED THE PREMISE "''If I have an explosion in a vacuum...'' this is what is said and taught. Not sure if you know he used to teach evolution as a professor of a University for many many years ( i believe for more than 20 years) please listen to his testimony, feeback pls
@11thhourministry An explosion didn't happen. It was an expansion of space-time. The universe is expanding, it must have been smaller in the past. The whole theory is about combining the 4 forces of nature. Again, it is not taught as an exploding something into the vacuum of space. There is nothing outside the universe, the universe itself expanded as space grew.
@11thhourministry He taught zoology for a term at the Universty of the West Cape, before requesting to transfer to another department. For my understanding, he taught at professor level for 3 years
@11thhourministry They only allow 500 characters in these comments, so to point it out is nearly impossible. The short answer is that it's nearly all hogwash, and the person thst does not recognize this in the first minute does not have the base knowledge to have a discussion about biology. Unfortunately many users on youtube ask their fellow youtubers to give them years of science education in these 500 character comments. Ther is no shortcut.
Not only does all the evidence support science, but even after 1000s of years still the creationists haven't come up with any evidence to support their idea. If they had, you can bet they'd have presented something by now.
Another creationist clown showing his lack of fundamental science knowledge to a group at a fundamentalist church. He sells a convincing argument to the ignorant though. Walter Veith is nothing more than a Seventh Day Adventist con man and is using his long ago earned title for profit. Anyone with a little Physics or Astronomy background can see through this total b.s. FAIL.
This "all-powerful" God who allegedly created the world sat on his butt and did nothing while Hitler killed 6 million Jews. Now, don't you think an all-knowing, all-powerful, all-loving God could have and would have stopped Hitler in his tracks before he even got started? I can't really make an assessment of this guy but I will say I've seen pseudo intellectuals make a mockery of objective science.
You know perfectly well that god punished Hitler accordingly and justly.
He didn't allow him into the kingdom of heaven after his death because, it was a suicidal death.
And, another good reasonfor punishing Hitler by god was that, Hitler allowed - among his closest companions - dr. Joseph Goebbels, to be married to a protestant, frau Maria Treppke and, that sin can't be forgiven by all loving god.
Trust me, Hitler had it coming and, he is sorry now.
@MrJurekGG hitler got off scott free because there is no heaven or hell.
he killed 12 million people, robbing them of the only life they had.
hitler is actually prove of either no god or not a loving god since god being all powerful and all loving would not want to see 12 million of his children tortured, starved, raped, gassed, shot....
your god doesn't care so he either doesn't exist or doesn't give a crap
This guy had knowledge, but it is very basic. Of course he sounds like Einstein to religious people, but to a student of all the general sciences, this is what we have in our pub quizes...
He has speak so that a average Joe can understand him. I'm sure if he spoke to a group of student studying topics like this and know the basics he would speak in more detail.
@gordonisnext actually he fucked up earlier than that. when he said that geology was the basis for evolutionary theory was the first major fuck up i realized. also do you know if setimentology is even a real word, let alone a real field of science?
@MobileThinker Yes, it is the study of basically all sediments, but he was probably referring to stratigraphy, and how we can tell from the arrangement of rock layers what time periods that particular rock is from. I'm afraid I didn't catch that part about geology being the basis for evolution.
@gordonisnext okay, and thank you. i wasn't sure if it was actually real or not because one, i could not spell it correct, and it was in my browsers spell-check, and the second reason is i was sure that if it is real he was using it wrong. also, i almost missed the geology statement but my internet was being stupid, so i had to watch the video over. once again thank you.
@gordonisnext I would like to post a retraction of this comment, I am not going to take it down because I don't want anyone to say "Ha ha, look at the silly evolutionist, he wont even admit he made a mistake". I did however, the Cambrian started about 550 million years ago, however, I still hold that this guy is unbelievably stupid.
@gordonisnext Why are we liking this post? 600 million years ago is a pretty good approximation on Cambrian dating. I believe 550 is closer to the actual figure, but 600 served his purposes.
@atheistcunuk: you're saying that Dr. Veith does not have a clue and he's providing falacies? Do you know who he is? check out his education credentials. Go to Wikipedia. He USED to be an atheist professor who believes and teaches evolution, and guess what? he realized that evolution was actually NOT POSSIBLE, and that creationism is the TRUTH backed up by scientific facts. By the way, before you make other claims, please do it intellectually, meaning: do more research.
Profressor Veith is extremely adept at his craft and i support his theory 100%. Most scientists agree that intelligence comes before life. Does matter become mind? I don’t believe so. Look at the Lampsillis Mussel for example: How could this simple looking creature develop such a mind blowing strategy for continuation of its species unless it was programmed into him at birth…hardwired into his DNA from the beginning? DNA is known as the Language of Life. I believe God created that language.
i am delighted to see some amazing changes, 4 years ago these rooms were filled with comments from creationists pushing their cause, obivously people have done thier homewrok and a bit of study since. all the comments just regard this mans lies as shit instead of agreeing with it. i have to say, the creationist movement did a lot to educate the modern people.
@topkev No, it just means Creationists don't bother to leave comments anymore. Arguing with you deluded Evos gets too boring after 4 years so we just come to watch and not argue. Which is why I'm not even gonna bother either.
@BloodOfRayne out of sympathy for you, i wish i could agree, however look around you... nobody is arguing against the points my fello "evos" made, they are instead calling us ignorant. how hollow it is to attempt to ridicule modern science by declaring you will no longer argue with us. when galileo noticed the earth revolved around the sun, did he bow to the catholic church and say he was wrong? when the pharisees said jesus was a heritic, did jesus sit admit defeat? or did they persist ?
@topkev For me: No Catholic, no NOTHING! If that is bullshit then it's ALL bullshit! I'm not going go to any Protestant religion since I know they are just branches of the Catholic Church! Fuck all of it!! No way I'm gonna believe a bullshit religion made by that bullshit artist Ellen White! NO FUCKING WAY!!!
@BloodOfRayne You said all Protestant religions are branches of the Catholic Church? *long sigh* another un-informed and ignorant human being. If you don't want to believe then who's forcing you? And with all that cursing, i'm sure most people would rather have you isolate yourself and not be a part of society. You can even move to Mars (if it's possible) and nobody will even care, for goodness sake!
@Obs3rv3r1 Well, you're right! I am a BAD Christian Catholic who has doubts!! I admit it! You're making the claim - i think - that Protestism is not a branch of Catholicism with your long sigh. Wasn't Martin Luther originally a Catholic who basically said "hang on a minute!" but in German of course. ; ) I should isolate myself from humanity.. boy, sometimes I wish if only I could! Seems to me YOU are now being a bad Christian! Didn't Christ say: love everyone? Or isn't that a part of your creed?
@darknlooking How dumb is he? why don't you explain...keeping in mind Professor Veith's extensive knowledge of evolution from when he was senior lecturer on that exact subject.
To me, the fact that scientists are becoming less convinced by the big bang theory gives me more faith in science, cus that's the point, they wont just make things fit and ignore things that wont, they look for evidence, religion sticks to one view denying all evidence that says otherwise. To me religion is the bit between being too stupid to look for answers but not intelligent enough to find the right ones.
@TheKotek1 Floods don't sort fossils by how old they are.
Floods don't make distinct layers of different kinds of rock, which is what we find in nature. The Grand Canyon has 21 different, distinct layers. And tilted layers under that.
@gregrutz The Grand Canyon is the best example of flood, like you said 21 layers each what (million y.o) and they are perfect flat....no corrosion, winds, water or iceberg damage.....etc
I grew up in communism, you had Darwinism at school all the time (9 years), my daughter 7yo (in Australia) already 2 years of Darwin, now we live in Chile 6mths (Darwin too) last 30 years evolution changed 1000 times? Bible was written 2000+ years ago. It is written: Creation of Earth, Human, and Animals etc. Predictions: Flood, Noahs Ark, Bible Law change, Jesus coming (how he will come and die), Kingdoms: Babylon, Persia, Greece, Romans (who will rule there? etc)
Evolution and the Big Bang are not compatible with the bible. If you accept them, you are not following the biblical creation story, and you are saying the bible is fallible. Veith, needs to stop saying, that is what science says,because science does not say anything, the scientist do. His beef is with mainstream science, and not science.
Hitler was the biggest occultist ever. He knew a bible to the core...For the rest of events just read the History books (which are changed now too) or simply Listen to Walter Veith DVDs.. There is no Big Bang or Evolution; I would call them Brainwashlution. My daughter is 8.5 yo and knows all the names of dinosaurs, all the names of Fairies reads books containing magic & spiritual context. Normal books are hard to get. All the schooling for our children has changed and History too.
On TV & Radio only one type of news. Medicine, food, water, air are killing us, and how can you say that Good & Devil does not exist...? What happened Last winter? (Global warming?) Yea right. When was the meeting in Copenhagen? And what they were trying to achieve there? My daughter just read my little note and told me that in Chilian school ( we live here 6 mths) she just finished the theory of Big Bang, she is in grade 3. She cant speak Spanish properly yet, but knows the atheism theory..
@TheKotek1 I have been to the bottom of the Grand Canyon. There are 21 distinct layers. 5 major unconformities [gaps]. And my favorite is the Super Group.
It is under all the level layers. It was laid down, tilted [block faulted into mountains] and worn flat, all before the other layers were put down, most in a shallow sea.
The Coconino Sandstone is the third layer from the top. It is wind blown sand from a desert, 350 feet thick.
He showed no proof of a world-wide flood and the death of everything at one time. Where is the evidence? This video was a waste of my time.
MstrLordMarcus 1 week ago
The balloon analogy is huge evidence of a fundamental misunderstanding of the science. This guy is an idiot. Millions of problems? Lol.
MstrLordMarcus 1 week ago
There is no crisis in cosmology. Big Bang Theory is not in decline. Wrong.
MstrLordMarcus 1 week ago
Big bang was not an explosion into empty space. Wrong.
MstrLordMarcus 1 week ago
Y isnt all the rocks etc in space moving about after the big bang. If u throw somthing in space it never stops, sumthng fishy there. God=big bang.
whiteninja1976 3 weeks ago
"science bereft religion of evolution" LOLZ
trueleroix 3 weeks ago
p.s. moron
luka7646 1 month ago
life was distaide but not in flood,or in flood of vulcano,than asteroid ,and ice ages but not in world wide flood
luka7646 1 month ago
is evolution losing credibility in scientific community HELL NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
everyone who is teaching creationist bullshit can kiss his career goodbye
ID and creationism is only active in the US thats it the rest of the WHOLE WORLD doesnt even know the existing of ID and creationism this including CHINA INDIA AUSTRALIA JAPAN EUROPE CAMBRIDGE OXFORD
ONLY IN AMERICA and in america not even in the scientific community only debatted in high schools and among the un-educated lower class
AdrianDeMoxica23 3 months ago
@AdrianDeMoxica23 your statement shows how very ignorant you are - Walter Veith is NOT American, He is not in America. I am not in America. Are you trying to claim that Americans are the only ones capable of thinking for themselves and questioning the science bereft religion of evolution? I can tell you for a fact they are not. creation science foundation IS in Australia - Australians ARE capable of thinking for themselves.
sweetpappya 4 weeks ago
Radiometric dating. Enough said.
MrJohndl 3 months ago
He inserts a doubt with the argument "why is everything in clusters" BUT never mention gravity! Gravity on the other side PERFECTLY explain the shapes we see. This man is corrupted science who may be got monet to speak such things in public in order to keep the audience ignorant and in delusion so the masters can rule them unquestioned.
glasotnaroda1 3 months ago
i was visiting the zoo. This monkey was looking after a naked human baby. Must b a first.
whiteninja1976 3 months ago
@whiteninja1976 You saw this? Was the baby dropped into the enclosure? Was it OK when they recovered it? Wow, I never heard about this, but it reminds me of video I have seen involving a gorilla and a young boy who fell into a zoo enclosure.
trueleroix 3 weeks ago
Walter J Veith has a PhD in zoology from the University of Cape Town . Was a university biology department head , had PhD track grad students in his labs that he mentored and was their major professor . , and believed and taught evolution as strongly as anyone .
RuffusMD 4 months ago
How can people in this day and age and pay money to listen a fucking idiot like this guy is beyond my understanding lol.
ScottyDavid1964 6 months ago
do you guys even know the history behind this guy? Check out his testimony. He was an avid evolutionist for 20-30 years, but found God by all the studies he had done. If you guys believe in evolution, please show me just 1 transitional fossil undergoing some type of evolution
justjoe826 6 months ago
@justjoe826 We all are examples of just this. Totally empty argument debunked roundly over and over again.
AntiFlavour 4 months ago
@veggiescrub. u r right. i'm in uk. The subject here is not first language though u might think u r on a plus if its ur first language. away from that..i realize in ur post you don't strive to correct the supposed lies or lack of knowledge on the presenter..you are on attack mode..like an ambushed animal..what is plausible about evln''theory? the big bang..hydrogen collider trying to invent life from a collision..inorder to put more weight on the bigbang? misguided 'science' & waste of time.
gkims2007 7 months ago
we are all mutants, our genes are all different from each other. natural selection is when a disease comes, the person with the gene that makes the person immune will live on and pass down his gene and his traits, while the 1 with genes that doesnt give immunity dies, thus his genes are not pass down. Over the course of several generations of natural selection, the person with the genes that allows him to survive in that local environment is considered evolved from the first generation
operatorlink 7 months ago
omg im a first year geology/biology/chemistry student, and i can tell he explained everything wrongly. ok not everything but most of it. he does not have a full understanding of anything.
operatorlink 7 months ago
@operatorlink thats why u r a first yr...straight from high school...calm down and from those exposing the lie of so called 'science' of evolution and the pretence of geology science.
gkims2007 7 months ago
@gkims2007 sory i don have high school in my country, and i did 3 years pre-U and have a diploma, and now doing my degree
operatorlink 6 months ago
The idiocy of this dork is actually painful.
8523wsxc 8 months ago
wow......i can hear america getting dumber!
SuperAthiest1 9 months ago
Wow this guy has no idea of physics or astronomy...nice one^^
gastarbeiter1 9 months ago
Mr mambo jambo at his eloquent best
azzy314159 9 months ago
This dude is so stupid. "If I have an explosion in a vacuum..:" that's enough. The big bang FORMED space and time. There wouldn't be any vacuum without ist, so the rest of the sentence must be completely fail.
gastarbeiter1 10 months ago
"Are are creationists just religious fanatics that believe ancient fairy tales? " Yes ;O)
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Katalyzt 10 months ago
Explaining things to a creationist is like explaining things to a dog.
They look at you with a stupified look on their face, they'll maybe bark a few times, then off it goes to piss on a nearby tree and crap on your lawn.
Some might actually be deprogrammed but creationism so ingrained in their heads that there is usually no hope. That's the problem with Biblical literalism and assuming it is inerrant and without fault.
jknengr796 11 months ago
@jknengr796
The same could be said of evolutionists. But your statements only hold water with one of those groups...
confoundtheidols 11 months ago
@confoundtheidols BTW "evolutionist" is a word coined by scientifically ignorant YEC's. It's meaningless.
Evidence, independent peer review, and repeatability is the basis for scientific principles and research. YEC's only have their particular interpretation of certain Bible verses with no physical evidence to support their assertions. They assume the Bible is the literal "Word of God", make shit up to fit and make no effort to verify it or put it forward for scrutiny. They don't get it.
jknengr796 11 months ago
Major facepalm.
baldurus1 11 months ago
Scientists are really having a hard time finding solid evidence for the evolution theory. All the films I have been watching explaining the big bang leave out important evidence contradicting to their explanations, they will explain how it is obvious that the universe is expanding from a single point in the universe due to red shift but scientists are finding just as much blue shift (cosmic material moving inwards). Top scientists are trying to make false evidence look true by telling only half
Zooboy7000 11 months ago
@Zooboy7000 No, solid evidence for the theory of evolution and examples of the fact of evolution are being published all the time. Blue shifts observed are entirely consistent with the big bang model and 'top scientists' publish frequently. Why not enroll onto a foundation science course at a real college and then you will be able to read scientific publications yourself and can stop trying to learn from people like this liar/idiot? Reality is beautiful and really worth learning about.
cnocspeireag 10 months ago
evolution is a LIE and scientists know it!! They just don't wanna discredit themselves after they've created this whole picture in people's minds of them being know it alls jst coz they've decided to dedicate time to research.ooh the politics behind research's incredible. who wud wanna contribute a million dollars to ur project and have u give them -ve results?? NO 1. who would even fund you for that? they're jst puppets as much as presidents are bt thumbs up to the few stuff that've
biankuba 11 months ago
that've contributed greatly to dealing with diseases. the rest esp in this age's pure B.S. Trying to get attention to themselves looking like 'little gods'. in case pple dint know 1 of the major scientific encyclopedia (al get the exact reference& post it) even mentions the dating system is FLAWED bt lo and behold pple still talk abt there being millions of years.ooh and the guy who drew embryos of humans/animals saying they were similar disclosed that he only did alterations to the human 1! LOL
biankuba 11 months ago
and even after admitting that intelligent humans still go out there believing that we really did evolve from animals coz our embryos look alike eeh??? when all he did was draw the human embryo in a different way. SHEEESH!! I'd rather be dumb believing God (coz the bible's already predicted that's what i'll look like to other people) than have myself believing i came from some animal.
biankuba 11 months ago
Evolutionists are ignorant (meaning: dumb on purpose) of the truth
GiepGap 11 months ago
If the world was not full of ass***#s, he would be talking to an empty hall
azzy314159 11 months ago
@azzy314159 At least these people are willing to consider another perspective with an open mind. Are you willing to hear reasonable discussions or are you about blind hatred or blind anger at someone who sees things differently from yourself? LISTEN TO THE ARGUMENTS!
MrEvenkeel1 9 months ago
@MrEvenkeel1 I have listened VERY carefully indeed. The creationists have no ligic whatsoever. This man knows nothing about geology or he chooses to ignore it. For sanity's sake study geological science carefully and compare with what this chappie says. he just challanges and dismisses science. he has no explanation for things. just nay nay all science. And I am not some junior school dropout. all his arguments lead back to god. After that there is no need for thinking, study or research.
azzy314159 9 months ago
@azzy314159 Might want to learn to spell "logic" before claiming to know what it is or who has it. Just saying.
lieutenantnobody 8 months ago
@lieutenantnobody It is not fair to pick on a typo. I am not an under educated ignoramus. And I am not insinuating that you are. But please for the sake of honesty where is his reasoning. I am ready to listen to any body but can not afford to hear out this sort of drivel. After listening to him for a few minutes I feel no further need to subject myself to this. Giving one's ear to "some one who sees things differently" does not require that I listen to every cookie who comes along.
azzy314159 8 months ago
@azzy314159 Relax, mate, I'm just pulling your leg.
lieutenantnobody 8 months ago
@lieutenantnobody Haha. You got me all worked up. I was all but foaming at the mouth. :-)
azzy314159 8 months ago
@azzy314159 Lol! Well, I can't blame you. This is a touchy subject. I find that in the end it's better to just not waste your time on those who don't want to see or apply facts decently (or even understand the other side's argument, for that matter). Ignorance is bliss; intentional ignorance is not.
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azzy314159 8 months ago
@lieutenantnobody @lieutenantnobody I agree with you. We are at peace.
Let us listen to what the other comentators have to say.
We have here MrJurekGG nayanmalig 8523wsxc SuperAthiest1
They seem to be pretty much unanimous.
azzy314159 8 months ago
All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.
Thomas Paine
nigelsenchez 1 year ago
2.15 "that's the basis for the entire evolutionary theory". Sorry chum but no it's not. The fossil record is one strand in a massive tapestry of evidence.
gextvedde 1 year ago
This guy is a fucktard
azzy314159 1 year ago
@azzy314159 As are most Creationists. Ignorant, scientifically illiterate minions.
jknengr796 1 year ago
Australia proves your big flood did not happen.
xcommunicate 1 year ago
6:30 he is using a comparison of something acting within an atmosphere, and something acting in the vacuum of space. The fact that he simplifies incorrectly for these people does not insult them? It in powers them in disillusion.
xcommunicate 1 year ago
Millions of problems - we can't explain so God must have done it.
T0X0PHILUS 1 year ago
Clearly this guy is not familiar with gravity. Someone should knock him down a peg or two and reacquaint him with it.
syros69er 1 year ago
@syros69er When you make statements like these you need to be specific about what he said and what you are saying to refute him otherwise it's just arguing in a vacuum.
MrEvenkeel1 9 months ago
to the part about not understanding why particles combine together in space, i thought that was settled when newton discovered gravity?
Mathbones 1 year ago
They'll make all the universities lecturers out of job, if every the American believe in creationist, the whole evolutionist education system will be demolish, I'm looking forward for that day.
kkongsf 1 year ago
@kkongsf i applaud you for your demonstration of religious idiocy, can i suggest an English lesson kkongsf
cjhmmp 1 year ago
@kkongsf
Is not that what the Talibans have done in Afghanistan? They did remove the science education and replaced it with Creationism. So if you look forward to that......
daarco2 1 year ago
I can't believe that he actually stated that all of the adults in that room know about the Jurassic period because of the movie Jurassic Park. If that were true, then it would perfectly explain the number of creationists still in existence.
xlanciferionx 1 year ago
@xlanciferionx He is talking about what is familiar. Then he explains the science using scientific data from highly credentialed scientists then points out the weaknesses using illustrations anyone educated in science or not can understand. Sounds reasonable. Get away from emotionalism and deal with your constant character bashing. Discuss the presentation not the people!
MrEvenkeel1 9 months ago
@MrEvenkeel1
"Sounds reasonable"
Sure, using a familiar reference, illustrations, and evidence is reasonable. When he chooses to use the truth, let me know.
"Discuss the presentation"
I did just that. If you'd like, I can tackle more of his "points." Where would you like me to start?
xlanciferionx 9 months ago
Hahaha! hahahaha!! Man, that's some funny material! Oh, wait.... he's being serious?!
KamasutraButterfly 1 year ago
did... he just.. say since he can't push astmopheric air in a bike pump into a star that therefore disproves the big bang ?
derickhaywood 1 year ago
You forgot to credit Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon for your music.
That aside, the presenter is very good at what he does. The best way to tell a lie is to bring in half truths. I'm sure he believes what he is saying, because he doesn't understand science. He didn't read the article on the decline of the Big Bang in full, but if it was from a scientific journal, then I'm sure it was pointing out that as science is gathering more knowledge, they are adjusting accordingly.
veggiescrub 1 year ago
this video proves nothing.. carbon dating isnt accurate. why are alligators still alligators? world wide flood? the bible has been more accurate then any sciences to how the world today and thousand of years ago.
TheMustangfan101 1 year ago
@TheMustangfan101 I'm missing your point. He doesn't believe in evolution, he's a creationist. He believes there was a world wide flood, and that Noah gathered 2 animals of every type from the 7 continents and kept them together on a little boat and then returned them to their native climates to carry on with their lives. Yeah, that's accurate, just like the rest of that silly bible thing.
veggiescrub 1 year ago
"Science says that there was no world-wide flood, only possible local floods. Then why did an Ark need to built?"
LOL, does this guy really think this is a valid argument? What a f-ing idiot.
opacapaca 1 year ago
@opacapaca If there was no flood then there was no ark either :-) (And there was no flood ;-) )
phpeni 1 year ago
@opacapaca Well duh, it's rather obvious isn't it. After all there are snakes. Why in the hell would evolution create a legless animal? Duh, god did it as punishment. The only punishment evolution can dish out is extinction. Clearly snakes aren't extinct. Clearly a creature couldn't have evolved with such a disadvantage. Clearly there was a flood, and the snakes would have drowned if it weren't for Noah. Jees some people are so thick. Do I need to explain it any clearer? ;-}
veggiescrub 1 year ago
OH MY GAD, the global flood did not happen, yust like noone ever build an ark and playced all the gad dam animals on it, you brainDead fuck.......Did the kengerus swin over to australia???? Yuse your gad dam brain O.O
Aikwood666 1 year ago
@Aikwood666 Noah returned all the animals to their rightful habitats after the flood. It is spelled out clearly in the lost books of the bible. Jees, some people just don't want to do the research.
veggiescrub 1 year ago
@veggiescrub Of corse he did =) Of corse he did. Then they all lived happely ever after ^.^ And the rainBowe is profe of that :D wiiiiiiiiii
Aikwood666 1 year ago
Holy fuck !!!
This guy is an idiot !!!
The people in there..Sitting there and listen to this bunch on moronic mambo-jumbo.
What is it? Did they buy tickets to listen to this deluded idiot? Was it free? Was it founded by some loco religious organization?
Who the fuck is paying for existence, for living of these imbeciles, like the one on the stage?
Doctor? Is he a doctor of science? Who issued his doctorate? Who gave him a title?
Oh, fuck... No wonder civilization is so slowly progressing.
MrJurekGG 1 year ago 11
@MrJurekGG The scary thing is, that even though this "idiot," doesn't have enough curiosity to study the science he pretends to know, he makes himself sound credible. And while he's talking to all those precooked zombies they think what he saying is not just plausible, but proof that science is a mess and can't be trusted. He lacks curiosity, but he has a smooth delivery, and mixes in a few facts with all the lies. Scary that someone with intelligence won't take the time to learn.
veggiescrub 1 year ago
@veggiescrub
Every time I see people like him, I've got that growling lump in my throat.
Who are these morons? Where did they come from ? Did someone stopped them from reading the science books? He is a puppet, a religious mannequin who assumes that his brain posses the analyzing capabilities. Does he wants to impress even more scientific' dumb imbeciles, than himself?
Moreover, there is a long list of these batshit fucktards.
God (if you are there?) - help this planet!
MrJurekGG 11 months ago
@MrJurekGG deal with the truth...truth is hard to take in hence the lump...then u react with a tirade-reason? innability to handle defeat.
gkims2007 7 months ago
@veggiescrub u r really rattled, and thats not how a 'super human' like you handles opposing views..or is it a luck of 'evolutionary' progression?mmm..may be!
gkims2007 7 months ago
@gkims2007 Though you are from the United Kingdom based on your page, it doesn't appear that English is your first language. Do you actually have something to add to the discussion, or should I just mark you as SPAM?
veggiescrub 7 months ago
@MrJurekGG Another academically dishonest Creationist speaker and his traveling road show shoveling intelligent sounding b.s. to the scientifically ignorant lemmings. Please contribute $20 to his new Lexus.
jknengr796 1 year ago
@jknengr796
You've got that right, pal.
MrJurekGG 11 months ago
@MrJurekGG You are a freaken morron if you believe you and your momma came from an animal hahahahah that guy made perfect sence with all the evidence, people like you wanna continue to be blinded by all theese lies they feed you.. your an ignorant fuck.
HUSTLE562 11 months ago
@MrJurekGG Nothing but personal attacks and no attacks on the evidence. Good One.
smoothpeople33 11 months ago
@smoothpeople33
He's a brainless, moronic, full of shit, dishonest, deluded, religious, batshit cretard, who should to be arrested on the spot, for abusing the school children, if only by talking to them, with the crap of his.
Evidence? What evidence? For what?
MrJurekGG 11 months ago
@MrJurekGG What a clear and concise scientific argumentation you've got there. How does one refute that?
mrdokma 9 months ago
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@mrdokma
" clear and concise scientific argumentation "
Scientific argumentation? For what?
We talking in here about the a brainless, moronic, full of shit, dishonest, deluded, religious, batshit cretard, who should to be arrested on the spot, for abusing the school children, if only by talking to them, with this crap of his.
MrJurekGG 9 months ago
@MrJurekGG instead of cursing and hurling abuses, just comment which points in the video were not scientific, explain why it was so IN ERROR!! I'm interested in listening to what facts refute what he said.
11thhourministry 6 months ago 4
@11thhourministry
This dishonest, brainless idiot is entirely an error!
Debunking his idiocies it's like taking part in his world of dumbness. It's like showing him a respect for his opinion about the science and about world that surrounds us.
It's like equalizing with him on the same level. It's like giving him a credit which he absolutely don't deserve.
Enough is fucking enough. These people should be neutralized by a common sense and a healthy dose of reason.
MrJurekGG 6 months ago
@11thhourministry ''If I have an explosion in a vacuum...'' The BIg Bang was not an exposion into a vacuum, it was an expansion of Space-time. And Gravity makes things in space come together.
He starts with the Geologic Colunm but then goes off subject to the Beginning of the universe ?!?
Darwin wrote, 'Origin of Species'' not the origin of the universe.
gregrutz 6 months ago
@gregrutz Question: No one was there? (right) so how do you KNOW FOR A FACT (evidence based) that any explosion happend? You quote Dr Veith, but he is only trying to refute a theory that is taught, so its NOT HIM WHO SAID or INVENTED THE PREMISE "''If I have an explosion in a vacuum...'' this is what is said and taught. Not sure if you know he used to teach evolution as a professor of a University for many many years ( i believe for more than 20 years) please listen to his testimony, feeback pls
11thhourministry 6 months ago
@11thhourministry An explosion didn't happen. It was an expansion of space-time. The universe is expanding, it must have been smaller in the past. The whole theory is about combining the 4 forces of nature. Again, it is not taught as an exploding something into the vacuum of space. There is nothing outside the universe, the universe itself expanded as space grew.
gregrutz 6 months ago
@11thhourministry He taught zoology for a term at the Universty of the West Cape, before requesting to transfer to another department. For my understanding, he taught at professor level for 3 years
TheGamanic 6 months ago
@11thhourministry They only allow 500 characters in these comments, so to point it out is nearly impossible. The short answer is that it's nearly all hogwash, and the person thst does not recognize this in the first minute does not have the base knowledge to have a discussion about biology. Unfortunately many users on youtube ask their fellow youtubers to give them years of science education in these 500 character comments. Ther is no shortcut.
trueleroix 3 weeks ago
Not only does all the evidence support science, but even after 1000s of years still the creationists haven't come up with any evidence to support their idea. If they had, you can bet they'd have presented something by now.
Ozzyman200 1 year ago
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Another creationist clown showing his lack of fundamental science knowledge to a group at a fundamentalist church. He sells a convincing argument to the ignorant though. Walter Veith is nothing more than a Seventh Day Adventist con man and is using his long ago earned title for profit. Anyone with a little Physics or Astronomy background can see through this total b.s. FAIL.
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jknengr796 1 year ago
science is in most people lives its called technology
HardFlip310 1 year ago
This "all-powerful" God who allegedly created the world sat on his butt and did nothing while Hitler killed 6 million Jews. Now, don't you think an all-knowing, all-powerful, all-loving God could have and would have stopped Hitler in his tracks before he even got started? I can't really make an assessment of this guy but I will say I've seen pseudo intellectuals make a mockery of objective science.
rumba215 1 year ago
@rumba215
Oh, c'mon
You know perfectly well that god punished Hitler accordingly and justly.
He didn't allow him into the kingdom of heaven after his death because, it was a suicidal death.
And, another good reasonfor punishing Hitler by god was that, Hitler allowed - among his closest companions - dr. Joseph Goebbels, to be married to a protestant, frau Maria Treppke and, that sin can't be forgiven by all loving god.
Trust me, Hitler had it coming and, he is sorry now.
There...
MrJurekGG 1 year ago
@MrJurekGG hitler got off scott free because there is no heaven or hell.
he killed 12 million people, robbing them of the only life they had.
hitler is actually prove of either no god or not a loving god since god being all powerful and all loving would not want to see 12 million of his children tortured, starved, raped, gassed, shot....
your god doesn't care so he either doesn't exist or doesn't give a crap
TheLostGuitarist 1 year ago
This guy had knowledge, but it is very basic. Of course he sounds like Einstein to religious people, but to a student of all the general sciences, this is what we have in our pub quizes...
tourettesdetectives 1 year ago
@tourettesdetectives
He has speak so that a average Joe can understand him. I'm sure if he spoke to a group of student studying topics like this and know the basics he would speak in more detail.
igornigor 1 year ago
"Does that make any sense? Not to me." Not to me either, genius. What does that say about your hypothesis?
cowlark2000 1 year ago
Whoa. Does this man not understand how gravity works?
cowlark2000 1 year ago
Are are creationists just religious fanatics that believe ancient fairy tales? Yes.
FSKLink 1 year ago
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gordonisnext 1 year ago 7
@gordonisnext ?
wiki/Cambrian
wearealltubes 1 year ago
@gordonisnext The part that jumped out at me was when he said that most mutations are bad/harmful.
Little does he know that he has over 100 neutral mutations that neither of his parents had
Thatonedude917 1 year ago
@gordonisnext aaa actually he is right. So yeah, i think you need to do your research gordon.
Sextonius 1 year ago
@Sextonius Yes, that was my bad, when I made that comment I was confusing the Cambrian explosion with the beginning of life, sorry for the mistake.
gordonisnext 1 year ago
@gordonisnext actually he fucked up earlier than that. when he said that geology was the basis for evolutionary theory was the first major fuck up i realized. also do you know if setimentology is even a real word, let alone a real field of science?
MobileThinker 1 year ago
@MobileThinker Yes, it is the study of basically all sediments, but he was probably referring to stratigraphy, and how we can tell from the arrangement of rock layers what time periods that particular rock is from. I'm afraid I didn't catch that part about geology being the basis for evolution.
gordonisnext 1 year ago
@gordonisnext okay, and thank you. i wasn't sure if it was actually real or not because one, i could not spell it correct, and it was in my browsers spell-check, and the second reason is i was sure that if it is real he was using it wrong. also, i almost missed the geology statement but my internet was being stupid, so i had to watch the video over. once again thank you.
MobileThinker 1 year ago
@MobileThinker Yeah, no problem.
gordonisnext 1 year ago
@gordonisnext I would like to post a retraction of this comment, I am not going to take it down because I don't want anyone to say "Ha ha, look at the silly evolutionist, he wont even admit he made a mistake". I did however, the Cambrian started about 550 million years ago, however, I still hold that this guy is unbelievably stupid.
gordonisnext 1 year ago
@gordonisnext Why are we liking this post? 600 million years ago is a pretty good approximation on Cambrian dating. I believe 550 is closer to the actual figure, but 600 served his purposes.
LeaningTowardsPisa 10 months ago
what a moron.
and there are people listening to this idtiot?
JerezJulio 1 year ago
geological layers are named for the time period they were deposited. He is really doing a nice job
SqueakerAlpha 1 year ago
any technical problem with a science theory = lack of spirituality
error margins in radio carbon dating = lack of belief
all natural disasters = prophecies or curses.
back to the dark ages.
nayanmalig 1 year ago 3
The Geologic column is the layering of rocks.
The Cambrian Period is a TIME Period.
IS IT ROCK LAYERS OR A TIME??, he keeps changing the meaning.
600 million years is a fact, not a theory.
They he shows some jokes, WTF??
Change subject to different theory, Big Bang, which was not an explosion, it was an expansion. It is still expanding.
This guy seems confused. There was no explosion into a vacuum. Space-time expanded.
Science has proven there was no global flood, what is your point?
gregrutz 1 year ago 2
The geological column is a TIME scale
@1;00 ''dinosaurs roamed in that time period''
they he goes back to calling them rock layers.
He does not understand what he is talking about.
gregrutz 1 year ago
"Are are creationists just religious fanatics that believe ancient fairy tales?"
Oh, I know the answer to this one! YES!
TheStringtheorysucks 1 year ago
@atheistcunuk: you're saying that Dr. Veith does not have a clue and he's providing falacies? Do you know who he is? check out his education credentials. Go to Wikipedia. He USED to be an atheist professor who believes and teaches evolution, and guess what? he realized that evolution was actually NOT POSSIBLE, and that creationism is the TRUTH backed up by scientific facts. By the way, before you make other claims, please do it intellectually, meaning: do more research.
Obs3rv3r1 1 year ago
@Obs3rv3r1 Dr Beith does not have a clue, anyone who has read a geology book knows that. He calls time periods rock layers.
gregrutz 1 year ago
Wow. Are creationist, after failing in the courts with intelligent design, gonna come up with a Flood Theory?
Killjeser 1 year ago
Profressor Veith is extremely adept at his craft and i support his theory 100%. Most scientists agree that intelligence comes before life. Does matter become mind? I don’t believe so. Look at the Lampsillis Mussel for example: How could this simple looking creature develop such a mind blowing strategy for continuation of its species unless it was programmed into him at birth…hardwired into his DNA from the beginning? DNA is known as the Language of Life. I believe God created that language.
Messinastar 1 year ago
@Messinastar "Most scientists agree that intelligence comes before life."
Why lie?
sfg911 1 year ago
i am delighted to see some amazing changes, 4 years ago these rooms were filled with comments from creationists pushing their cause, obivously people have done thier homewrok and a bit of study since. all the comments just regard this mans lies as shit instead of agreeing with it. i have to say, the creationist movement did a lot to educate the modern people.
topkev 1 year ago
@topkev No, it just means Creationists don't bother to leave comments anymore. Arguing with you deluded Evos gets too boring after 4 years so we just come to watch and not argue. Which is why I'm not even gonna bother either.
BloodOfRayne 1 year ago
@BloodOfRayne out of sympathy for you, i wish i could agree, however look around you... nobody is arguing against the points my fello "evos" made, they are instead calling us ignorant. how hollow it is to attempt to ridicule modern science by declaring you will no longer argue with us. when galileo noticed the earth revolved around the sun, did he bow to the catholic church and say he was wrong? when the pharisees said jesus was a heritic, did jesus sit admit defeat? or did they persist ?
topkev 1 year ago
@topkev For me: No Catholic, no NOTHING! If that is bullshit then it's ALL bullshit! I'm not going go to any Protestant religion since I know they are just branches of the Catholic Church! Fuck all of it!! No way I'm gonna believe a bullshit religion made by that bullshit artist Ellen White! NO FUCKING WAY!!!
BloodOfRayne 1 year ago
@BloodOfRayne You said all Protestant religions are branches of the Catholic Church? *long sigh* another un-informed and ignorant human being. If you don't want to believe then who's forcing you? And with all that cursing, i'm sure most people would rather have you isolate yourself and not be a part of society. You can even move to Mars (if it's possible) and nobody will even care, for goodness sake!
Obs3rv3r1 1 year ago
@Obs3rv3r1 Well, you're right! I am a BAD Christian Catholic who has doubts!! I admit it! You're making the claim - i think - that Protestism is not a branch of Catholicism with your long sigh. Wasn't Martin Luther originally a Catholic who basically said "hang on a minute!" but in German of course. ; ) I should isolate myself from humanity.. boy, sometimes I wish if only I could! Seems to me YOU are now being a bad Christian! Didn't Christ say: love everyone? Or isn't that a part of your creed?
BloodOfRayne 1 year ago
@Obs3rv3r1 Name one Protestant religion that was before Luther !
gregrutz 1 year ago
this guy doesn't have a clue. even I know more about biological evolution and cosmology than he does. He provides only falacy after falacy
and no one in the gathering says a thing about it. bloody sheep
atheistcunuk 1 year ago
Creationists talking about common sense and rational thinking?!
LOL!
doriamedina 1 year ago
I cant believe how dumb this guy is. Please god kill me now :)
darknlooking 1 year ago
@darknlooking How dumb is he? why don't you explain...keeping in mind Professor Veith's extensive knowledge of evolution from when he was senior lecturer on that exact subject.
bigspliffs 1 year ago
Don’t call god for help you don't believe in him. but be careful it might come true.....
TheKotek1 1 year ago
only a nation of consumerist fatass lazy ass dumbass citizens can believe in this shit
TheCrocoduck 1 year ago
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TheKotek1 1 year ago
This guy, who just said the universe expolded into a vacuum, WRONG, can debunk evolution, I don't think so.
gregrutz 1 year ago
Darwin didn't know about mutations and he figured it out.
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First the rocks, evolution says........
No, Geologists study rocks.
Show some jokes.
Talk about the Big Bang.
What about talking about evolution?????
gregrutz 1 year ago
@gregrutz
See Expert in action
Genes, Kinds, Species,Evolution Debunked(1/6)-Walter Veith
TheKotek1 1 year ago
@TheKotek1 evolution debunked? You wish!
gregrutz 1 year ago
The universe did not expode into a vacuum. Space itself expanded.
You can't dis-prove something you don't understand.
gregrutz 1 year ago
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hurriedtempo481 1 year ago
To me, the fact that scientists are becoming less convinced by the big bang theory gives me more faith in science, cus that's the point, they wont just make things fit and ignore things that wont, they look for evidence, religion sticks to one view denying all evidence that says otherwise. To me religion is the bit between being too stupid to look for answers but not intelligent enough to find the right ones.
PutMeOnYourBlackList 1 year ago
The fossils are layered like this,
In the bottom layer of rock are shell fossils,
above that is a layer with shells and fish fossils,
above that is a layer with shells, fish and amphibians fossils,
above that is a layer with shells, fish, amphibian and reptile fossils,
above that is a layer with shells, fish, amphibian, reptile fossils
and dinosaur fossils
gregrutz 1 year ago
@gregrutz good points looks like disaster place (flood)
TheKotek1 1 year ago
@TheKotek1 Floods don't sort fossils by how old they are.
Floods don't make distinct layers of different kinds of rock, which is what we find in nature. The Grand Canyon has 21 different, distinct layers. And tilted layers under that.
gregrutz 1 year ago
@gregrutz The Grand Canyon is the best example of flood, like you said 21 layers each what (million y.o) and they are perfect flat....no corrosion, winds, water or iceberg damage.....etc
TheKotek1 1 year ago
@TheKotek1 There are 5 major unconformities. Time gaps, erosion marks you call them.
gregrutz 1 year ago
@TheKotek1 Many of the layers in the Grand Canyon were laid down in a SHALLOW sea, slow growing corals, limestones, of course they are flat.
Gravity make things flat, mountains become flat over millions of years.
gregrutz 1 year ago
EVOLUTION = FACT
CREATIONISM = HORSE SHIT
Debate over. Let's move on to relevant discussions now please.
Palegoat 1 year ago
@Palegoat tahah ignorant
CHUNIOR05 1 year ago
Its funny how some people say "How we evolved from apelike creatures" when its pretty darn obvious we are still apelike...
ihaveseenyounaked 1 year ago
I grew up in communism, you had Darwinism at school all the time (9 years), my daughter 7yo (in Australia) already 2 years of Darwin, now we live in Chile 6mths (Darwin too) last 30 years evolution changed 1000 times? Bible was written 2000+ years ago. It is written: Creation of Earth, Human, and Animals etc. Predictions: Flood, Noahs Ark, Bible Law change, Jesus coming (how he will come and die), Kingdoms: Babylon, Persia, Greece, Romans (who will rule there? etc)
TheKotek1 1 year ago
The article doesn't say that "There is a crisis..." it says "IS there a crisis...?". I suspect quote-mining for the rest of the quotes.
Serpent0fEden 1 year ago
Evolution and the Big Bang are not compatible with the bible. If you accept them, you are not following the biblical creation story, and you are saying the bible is fallible. Veith, needs to stop saying, that is what science says,because science does not say anything, the scientist do. His beef is with mainstream science, and not science.
KevZen2000 1 year ago
Which version of Creation in the Bible do you like best?
Genesis Chapter ONE,
in which humans were created AFTER plants and animals?
Or chapter TWO, in which man was created BEFORE plants and animals?
Chapter ONE,
in which man and woman were created at the same time?
Or chapter TWO,
in which man was created before the plants
and woman was created after the animals?
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
Hitler was right about the big lie.
What everyone needs to do is ask 2 questions:
What am I doing here. Where am I going.
Nothing as complex as life could exist without those questions being answerable.
Make that your quest and you WILL come to the truth about where we came from.
mtwseneca 1 year ago
Hitler was the biggest occultist ever. He knew a bible to the core...For the rest of events just read the History books (which are changed now too) or simply Listen to Walter Veith DVDs.. There is no Big Bang or Evolution; I would call them Brainwashlution. My daughter is 8.5 yo and knows all the names of dinosaurs, all the names of Fairies reads books containing magic & spiritual context. Normal books are hard to get. All the schooling for our children has changed and History too.
TheKotek1 1 year ago
brainwashing at its finest
dib07ce 1 year ago
It's unbelievable that there is still grownups that buy into this flood crap. Come on. It's embarrassing.
Hellcat040369 1 year ago 27
@Hellcat040369 To see Flood and Noahs Ark existence (Good Creation) click here:
/watch?v=3PSZNYdfawQ&feature=channel
TheKotek1 1 year ago 2
On TV & Radio only one type of news. Medicine, food, water, air are killing us, and how can you say that Good & Devil does not exist...? What happened Last winter? (Global warming?) Yea right. When was the meeting in Copenhagen? And what they were trying to achieve there? My daughter just read my little note and told me that in Chilian school ( we live here 6 mths) she just finished the theory of Big Bang, she is in grade 3. She cant speak Spanish properly yet, but knows the atheism theory..
TheKotek1 1 year ago
@TheKotek1 watch noah's flood - debunked.
gregrutz 1 year ago
@gregrutz Go there and see for yourself , Turky is cheap place to be but very important...All of you Big Bangers shuld go there...
I went there in 2002 (God does exist- creation) so is ( Devil- Big Bang etc...)
TheKotek1 1 year ago
@TheKotek1 I have been to the bottom of the Grand Canyon. There are 21 distinct layers. 5 major unconformities [gaps]. And my favorite is the Super Group.
It is under all the level layers. It was laid down, tilted [block faulted into mountains] and worn flat, all before the other layers were put down, most in a shallow sea.
The Coconino Sandstone is the third layer from the top. It is wind blown sand from a desert, 350 feet thick.
gregrutz 1 year ago