@TheDiddlysquat You are absolutely right. But nowadays we still have the same behaviour towards poorer people. Prostitutes in the third world or even in poorer countries of Europe or even drug addicts who of course caused this one way street themselves by their drug conduct (not in the first place but as a consequence of a bad or even sexually abused childhood) but still end up very often having no other choice. I condemn men equally who take advantage of their "situation".
@TheDiddlysquat Sadly this is how human society works. You must take into account that many gay people can rely on Oscar Wilde as an idol or a role model. Or someone to be proud of. I don't think that's a bad thing. It only shows that no matter what sexual orientation one has, everone has his/her darker side, no matter in which way it expresses itself.
@TheDiddlysquat I have just thought of something else: I think that lots of men, whether celebrities or not, frequented prostitutes. I think that's always been quite a common thing, back then and nowadays- and who tells us, that the female prostitutes weren't /aren't also too young, maybe offered by their older brother or even father? Especially if the girls/rentboys came from the lower classes or poor population.
@TheDiddlysquat I wouldn't consider myself as "an obsessed fan". I only think his stories/faire tales are quite good stuff. To be honest I didn't think that much about this "part of his life". If they were that young it sure would be a very bad thing and very awful. But after all- who can tell for sure- I mean, none of us can travel back in a time machine?
Oscar Wilde comes across to me as a shallow,immature,hedonistic ass. Abandoning his wife and children and finding young men for sex. i dont get why people like him so much.
@chuckstar666 if that would be a reason to not like, or even hate someone...then you must hate half of people of the world...i dont get why people just love to look and mock about something that they declare pure unlikeness...if you dont like how it looks, then DONT LOOK AT...if you dont like how it sounds, then DONT LISTEN AT...you comes across to me as a ignorant, brain disabled, dumb ass. Abandoning the art and the respect and finding ways to criticize what he thinks is just "not correct".
It might be the orchestra part of "A Child's Introduction to the Orchestra" by Alec Wilder. I'm pretty certain it has nothing to do with Dave Brubeck (kleidi10 is a liar).
Even the magnificently brilliant Oscar Wilde was not immune from hubris turning into one's own downfall--he could have been heterosexual but would have suffered as disastrous a defeat in the hands of another brilliant mind of which potency he had underestimated.
wow, at minute 2:43 there is this lovely dance music from pride and prejudice...
deliriousweare 8 months ago
@TheDiddlysquat You are absolutely right. But nowadays we still have the same behaviour towards poorer people. Prostitutes in the third world or even in poorer countries of Europe or even drug addicts who of course caused this one way street themselves by their drug conduct (not in the first place but as a consequence of a bad or even sexually abused childhood) but still end up very often having no other choice. I condemn men equally who take advantage of their "situation".
009firefox 9 months ago
@TheDiddlysquat P.S.: Though for me there is no excuse for someone abusing young people/Children.
009firefox 9 months ago
@TheDiddlysquat Sadly this is how human society works. You must take into account that many gay people can rely on Oscar Wilde as an idol or a role model. Or someone to be proud of. I don't think that's a bad thing. It only shows that no matter what sexual orientation one has, everone has his/her darker side, no matter in which way it expresses itself.
009firefox 9 months ago
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009firefox 9 months ago
@TheDiddlysquat I have just thought of something else: I think that lots of men, whether celebrities or not, frequented prostitutes. I think that's always been quite a common thing, back then and nowadays- and who tells us, that the female prostitutes weren't /aren't also too young, maybe offered by their older brother or even father? Especially if the girls/rentboys came from the lower classes or poor population.
009firefox 9 months ago
@TheDiddlysquat I wouldn't consider myself as "an obsessed fan". I only think his stories/faire tales are quite good stuff. To be honest I didn't think that much about this "part of his life". If they were that young it sure would be a very bad thing and very awful. But after all- who can tell for sure- I mean, none of us can travel back in a time machine?
009firefox 9 months ago
@TheDiddlysquat Where did you get that from? I mean about the age of the rent boys (13).
009firefox 9 months ago
Oscar Wilde comes across to me as a shallow,immature,hedonistic ass. Abandoning his wife and children and finding young men for sex. i dont get why people like him so much.
chuckstar666 1 year ago
@chuckstar666 Because he was a gay genius.
gabsylv 1 year ago
@chuckstar666 because he was a "pop" star, for his art, his life style and by the way she looked
moraldecay1 1 year ago
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@chuckstar666 because he was a "pop" star, for his art, his life style and by the way he looked
moraldecay1 1 year ago
@chuckstar666 did you read his books?!
deliriousweare 1 year ago
@chuckstar666 if that would be a reason to not like, or even hate someone...then you must hate half of people of the world...i dont get why people just love to look and mock about something that they declare pure unlikeness...if you dont like how it looks, then DONT LOOK AT...if you dont like how it sounds, then DONT LISTEN AT...you comes across to me as a ignorant, brain disabled, dumb ass. Abandoning the art and the respect and finding ways to criticize what he thinks is just "not correct".
pandemilo 1 year ago
@chuckstar666 ...and people like him so much because he was severely not like you
pandemilo 1 year ago
There are too many gaps between parts of this bio!
funkyladybean 1 year ago
what tune is playing at 2:44????
demona1987 2 years ago
dave brubeck
kleidi10 2 years ago
It might be the orchestra part of "A Child's Introduction to the Orchestra" by Alec Wilder. I'm pretty certain it has nothing to do with Dave Brubeck (kleidi10 is a liar).
mmedefarge 1 year ago
Even the magnificently brilliant Oscar Wilde was not immune from hubris turning into one's own downfall--he could have been heterosexual but would have suffered as disastrous a defeat in the hands of another brilliant mind of which potency he had underestimated.
gagothesith 2 years ago 7
this is just brillant, thanks for posting.
raven782666 3 years ago 22