NFitalianGuy I know I am tired of the crap put up about her!When she was a baby her Mother would slap her face and say now go and sing! Judy was very sick as a child and had problems with her ears and hay fever when they went to Hollywood she suffered a lot.Judy turned out to be the GREATEST LIVE PERFORMER EVER! So screw all the other crap.Rest in Peace Judy Garland gone too soon... Barb
Not a single difference between every other prescription taking individual and Judy regarding her dependency. The difference was her spied upon life, lies in papers worldwide, and mil;lions of people knowing all of this and eating it up. Inappropriate dispensation by Celebrity Doctors like the ones today.. Prey upon those hyper emotional, overweight, insomniac patients with money and or fame. These Men overcharged and saw 50 60 patients daily. 155 bucks for 100 Seconal and 75 Dexedrine.
the thing is judy supported her entire family since she entered show business.. and this is how they thanked her. she had a BIG HEART and a giving spirit. a fragile being who had an operatic voice.. each song she did was a masterpiece .. no one compares with her. she didn't need 20 people on stage with her.. she just needed herself and her INCREDIBLE VOICE!
HEY,"HEY "HIRCHIK",my aunt and uncle,grandparents in the 60's SMOKED,AND USED THOSE BENZADRINE INHALERS,OOOH,I DID ACID,POT,BOOZE,AND WHEN I WAS A NERVOUS KID"(NOW THEY CALL IT ADH,OR SOME SHIT,THEY WANTED ME ON RITALIN,AT 5,i am free,and no problemo,except for 'rude,armchair psychologists",WHO SEEM TO KNOW THE INNER THOUGHTS,AND MINDS OF SUCH GREAT ARTISTS AS MONROE,AND GARLAND,tell me your secret,JUST KIDDING
Oh please none of you know what she was or what her life was like.The oe thing that stands true is famous or not she was an addict and as much as she can say all the things done to her she had no problems with letting her own children suffer .
She was an addict. It made her undependable. She was in pain. She was hysterically funny. She was used. She was beaten (including by Sid Luft) She has the most beautiful voice of anyone in the history of the world and no one was able to help her. They didn't have laws to protect child stars in those days. They didn't have a Betty Ford Center in those days. Mickey Rooney survived. She didn't. May she rest in peace with love and respect somewhere over the rainbow.
@etrax2000 hi--actually Judy had an excellent relationship with J. Edgar Hoover--and would call him if she needed guidance----it has been written that he would taker her calls when she called. (he was after all a closeted gay man).
@davedave9103 Hoover may have ben the "name on the door" but there were plenty of extremest in Washington who deplored countless survelances on show business people,including dirty tricks and wire taping, photo espionage, tax shenanigans and many others. hoover couldn't control the agency in the sixties as well as he may have in the 40's and fifties.
@etrax2000 You're bringing her politics into this? How insane. She was a fragile and used spirit who gave but never received! I wouldn't care if she was a communist!
It makes me ill to think Judy died destitute she should have been RICH. It makes me sick that these no talent folks like Angelina and Brad pitt and other no talents make tens of millions of dollars. So sad how she was treated.
Yes but she was abused then most they promised a year off and 3 months later she was back working.After no one would go near her or help her or feed her except friend that REALLY cared.That meant more pills an they gave them to her as many as she wanted not prescribe like a doctor should.Those doctor should be held accounted for her fall from grace.They are the ones who killed Judy Garland
She did not being called Baby.That was her nick name from her mother who she was scared of deeply.The tragedy of Judy Garland was the men and press and the pressure she was put under by these people.David Vince Mark one other guy had a chance to help her none of you did.SHAME ON THEM!!!! Still Loving you Barb....
Damn, Let Judy talk! Freddie was coaching her answers to what he wanted to hear. It's sounded like an atty "leading the witness" Judy's mindset is like most Geminis. Sometimes As We talk, our train of thought does drifts off on a different path but we get back to the subject @ hand. There is a method to our madness & No, we aren't crazy; Geminis DON'T have split personalities. We can be stubborn but we can be very sensitive. Which is why we can also turn from an introvert to extravert @ times.
I love the picture at 2:30 with Norman maine waing to get help because he was drowning while Vicki Lester was on the sand taking in the sunshine .. Ths is a great audio. Freddie wanted to marry Judy and on a date with him when Sid luft came up to freddie shortly after Judy wanted Sid. I dont know why Lorna placed Kay Thompson as her dinner companion that night in NYC. Freddie really wanted to marry Judy. Freddie and Sid both loved gambling at the track.
Isn't it ironic that even today Judy is the subject of abusive comments. In my opinion, no one has the right to criticize those who have passed on. Even more so when events are associated to her, as well as things she allegedly did. Judy, I believe, represents an 'aunt sally' whom people can throw their own junk at, without facing their own inner demons. The bottom line is that she was a decent human being with admirable qualities; she didn't murder anyone; so let her alone.
She's obviously medicated and/or a bit stoned. Victim, victim, victim. I adore her genius. But she was, frankly, a liar.
This story is totally false. Minnelli was in the house with her, called "Carlton" hysterically after Judy scratched her neck (that's all it amounted to) and screamed, "they''ve finally killed my beautiful wife!" Carlton came over, slapped some sense in Minnelli and called a doctor.
Better to watch her matchless artistry than listen to her "poor me" tales.
@waif55 You are totally wrong about Judy being a "victim", nor was she a martyr. The things that happened to Judy during her professional life (which is almost her whole lifetime) was pandemic in show business, and there we casualties of the system. However, Judy's innate sensitivity played her a duff card, so that she indeed suffered for her art. Add to this her generosity of spirit (she gave much too much) and you have a lethal cocktail. However "false", this is HER story and in HER own words.
@hirchik Marilyn Monore, who had a similar personality to Judy, said once, "I don't lie. I might exaggerate or leave something out, but I don't lie...it all comes from truth." That's a fine point, but I suppose Miss G. would understand. Judy told stories slanted to provide the maximum sympathy. She never, ever took responsibility for any of her issues. In her case, when you have that much talent, the casualty is an ability to take responsibility. She was badly used, but...who wasn't?
@waif55 I don't agree that Judy ever played the sympathy card and my God she had every right to. Judy was philosophical as well as emotionally intelligent, which got her through psychologically, but physically she just plain wore out. Did she take enough responsibility? She was a woman at a certain juncture in time, when women were quite often exploited by powerful and, sometimes, sadistic men. We, in 2010, are in a quite different world, thank goodness.
@hirchik I think (i certainly don't KNOW) that Judy neeed to be seen as fragile, used, victimized. It satisfied a need. And she was all those things, time to time. But as to the "victim card" you might get an argument from Liza. One of few times she ever came close to being critical she related a story about how they argued, "You're always looking for sympathy!" Liza said. Judy replied, "Sympathy is my business." And it was--in her art and often in her life. It is her art than endures.
@waif55 WHATEVER,"ANOTHER ARMCHAIR FREUD",WHO WAS A COKE INJECTING ADDICT,WHO SMOKED 20 CIGARS A DAY TILL HIS JAW FELL OFF(YES,YOU CALIFORNIA DOPES,CIGAR'S ARE LIT,AND INHALED,JUST NOT LIKE A CIG,GET IT,WHY NOT JUST NOT LIGHT IT,GET IT,WHY DOES IT HAVE A HOLE,GET IT,HERE,IF YOU WERE ON SPEED,EVERY DAY,SINCE,WHEN,12,AND DOPE TO MAKE U SLEEP,AND THEN LATER DRANK,TO ESCAPE,I REEEAAALY THINK YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO GET MESSED UP WITH FANTASY,"PHOTOPLAY PEOPLE FROM HELL"
This woman lived the life of dozens of people whichmade her look years older than she actually was. She worked and worked and the saying "Words hit harder than a fist" really applies here. The mental & emotional abuse from her mother & the studio telling her she was ugly. a hunchback etc. then being around the most glamourous movie stars constantly seeing their beauty and then her inner demons telling her she was ugly compounded the problem daily. Judy who had the most talent suffered greatly.
Judy was very smart and sounds very good here. I wish they had pursued her autobiography imagine how wonderful it would have been to have heard it all in her words. Lorna's book and movie had many inconsistancies to it. Lorna once had a Q & A session at the 1997 Judy festival in GR,MN and Sid actually told her thatshe was factually wrong on certain statements.. She didnt know what to say.. Sid was very sincere at the festival and my chat with him was amazing..
even gene kelly couldn't take berkely's direction and helped force him to quit during take me out to the ballgame although he got screen credit. berkley was a recovering acoholic and freed was sympathetic but then esther williams also complained so berkley never did another musical.
It's heartbreaking that the press and so many of the people around her badgered and hounded this brilliant woman into such a state. It certainly emphasizes how truly sensitive she was .. and how heartless and idiotic they were.
@grai from wikipedia: "Benzedrine is the trade name of the racemic mixture of amphetamine (dl-amphetamine)... marketed under this brandname in the USA by Smith, Kline & French in the form of inhalers, starting in 1928. Benzedrine was used to enlarge nasal and bronchial passages and it is closely related to other stimulants produced later, such as dextroamphetamine (d-amphetamine) and methamphetamine." whoa indeed!
I agree FLBoy46...I think that unfortunately certain things didn't work in her favor and she did not have the kind of people around her who could/would help her go in the right direction...Thanks for posting BuzzStephens1, would love to hear any other bit of this recording you may have...
Not many of us can imagine a life of total celebrity, with every bit of our lives "front and center," much less discussing something so personal as a suicide attempt.
Say what you will, but this lady was a class act with a strong constitution.
I was really please with the quality of this recording. I didn't quite catch the bit at 49 seconds though- what did Judy's mother used to phone her & say?
Thanks very much for sharing! I love to hear her talk in such a candid way :)
NFitalianGuy I know I am tired of the crap put up about her!When she was a baby her Mother would slap her face and say now go and sing! Judy was very sick as a child and had problems with her ears and hay fever when they went to Hollywood she suffered a lot.Judy turned out to be the GREATEST LIVE PERFORMER EVER! So screw all the other crap.Rest in Peace Judy Garland gone too soon... Barb
pusspleaser134 1 month ago
Not a single difference between every other prescription taking individual and Judy regarding her dependency. The difference was her spied upon life, lies in papers worldwide, and mil;lions of people knowing all of this and eating it up. Inappropriate dispensation by Celebrity Doctors like the ones today.. Prey upon those hyper emotional, overweight, insomniac patients with money and or fame. These Men overcharged and saw 50 60 patients daily. 155 bucks for 100 Seconal and 75 Dexedrine.
IToldHimNotToDoIt 1 month ago
the thing is judy supported her entire family since she entered show business.. and this is how they thanked her. she had a BIG HEART and a giving spirit. a fragile being who had an operatic voice.. each song she did was a masterpiece .. no one compares with her. she didn't need 20 people on stage with her.. she just needed herself and her INCREDIBLE VOICE!
blueskygal9 4 months ago
While others may write long, meaningful pieces on Judy....I find it only appropriate to say this:
Judy, You are loved, You are Great, And you are very much alive and well in the hearts of so many.
katomie 4 months ago 2
HEY,"HEY "HIRCHIK",my aunt and uncle,grandparents in the 60's SMOKED,AND USED THOSE BENZADRINE INHALERS,OOOH,I DID ACID,POT,BOOZE,AND WHEN I WAS A NERVOUS KID"(NOW THEY CALL IT ADH,OR SOME SHIT,THEY WANTED ME ON RITALIN,AT 5,i am free,and no problemo,except for 'rude,armchair psychologists",WHO SEEM TO KNOW THE INNER THOUGHTS,AND MINDS OF SUCH GREAT ARTISTS AS MONROE,AND GARLAND,tell me your secret,JUST KIDDING
alezander666 5 months ago
Oh please none of you know what she was or what her life was like.The oe thing that stands true is famous or not she was an addict and as much as she can say all the things done to her she had no problems with letting her own children suffer .
3909clancy 5 months ago
@3909clancy You're pretty clueless aren't you.
mrfester42 2 months ago
@3909clancy Her children didn't suffer...
thewzrdofoz 1 month ago
She was an addict. It made her undependable. She was in pain. She was hysterically funny. She was used. She was beaten (including by Sid Luft) She has the most beautiful voice of anyone in the history of the world and no one was able to help her. They didn't have laws to protect child stars in those days. They didn't have a Betty Ford Center in those days. Mickey Rooney survived. She didn't. May she rest in peace with love and respect somewhere over the rainbow.
Vagabond7J 5 months ago
Judy was a democrat, a liberal,,, in show business,, a known drug user and I am sure the FBI has miles of audio tape and spy documents on her.
etrax2000 6 months ago
@etrax2000 hi--actually Judy had an excellent relationship with J. Edgar Hoover--and would call him if she needed guidance----it has been written that he would taker her calls when she called. (he was after all a closeted gay man).
davedave9103 5 months ago
@davedave9103 Hoover may have ben the "name on the door" but there were plenty of extremest in Washington who deplored countless survelances on show business people,including dirty tricks and wire taping, photo espionage, tax shenanigans and many others. hoover couldn't control the agency in the sixties as well as he may have in the 40's and fifties.
etrax2000 5 months ago
@etrax2000 You're bringing her politics into this? How insane. She was a fragile and used spirit who gave but never received! I wouldn't care if she was a communist!
mrfester42 2 months ago
It makes me ill to think Judy died destitute she should have been RICH. It makes me sick that these no talent folks like Angelina and Brad pitt and other no talents make tens of millions of dollars. So sad how she was treated.
70sRob 8 months ago
Yes but she was abused then most they promised a year off and 3 months later she was back working.After no one would go near her or help her or feed her except friend that REALLY cared.That meant more pills an they gave them to her as many as she wanted not prescribe like a doctor should.Those doctor should be held accounted for her fall from grace.They are the ones who killed Judy Garland
pusspleaser134 11 months ago
She did not being called Baby.That was her nick name from her mother who she was scared of deeply.The tragedy of Judy Garland was the men and press and the pressure she was put under by these people.David Vince Mark one other guy had a chance to help her none of you did.SHAME ON THEM!!!! Still Loving you Barb....
pusspleaser134 11 months ago
Damn, Let Judy talk! Freddie was coaching her answers to what he wanted to hear. It's sounded like an atty "leading the witness" Judy's mindset is like most Geminis. Sometimes As We talk, our train of thought does drifts off on a different path but we get back to the subject @ hand. There is a method to our madness & No, we aren't crazy; Geminis DON'T have split personalities. We can be stubborn but we can be very sensitive. Which is why we can also turn from an introvert to extravert @ times.
NFitalianGuy 1 year ago
I love the picture at 2:30 with Norman maine waing to get help because he was drowning while Vicki Lester was on the sand taking in the sunshine .. Ths is a great audio. Freddie wanted to marry Judy and on a date with him when Sid luft came up to freddie shortly after Judy wanted Sid. I dont know why Lorna placed Kay Thompson as her dinner companion that night in NYC. Freddie really wanted to marry Judy. Freddie and Sid both loved gambling at the track.
NFitalianGuy 1 year ago
She nicked her neck a little with a small piece of a broken perfume bottle. They put a bandage on it and it was fine.
xander7ful 1 year ago
Isn't it ironic that even today Judy is the subject of abusive comments. In my opinion, no one has the right to criticize those who have passed on. Even more so when events are associated to her, as well as things she allegedly did. Judy, I believe, represents an 'aunt sally' whom people can throw their own junk at, without facing their own inner demons. The bottom line is that she was a decent human being with admirable qualities; she didn't murder anyone; so let her alone.
hirchik 1 year ago 2
She's obviously medicated and/or a bit stoned. Victim, victim, victim. I adore her genius. But she was, frankly, a liar.
This story is totally false. Minnelli was in the house with her, called "Carlton" hysterically after Judy scratched her neck (that's all it amounted to) and screamed, "they''ve finally killed my beautiful wife!" Carlton came over, slapped some sense in Minnelli and called a doctor.
Better to watch her matchless artistry than listen to her "poor me" tales.
waif55 1 year ago
@waif55 You are totally wrong about Judy being a "victim", nor was she a martyr. The things that happened to Judy during her professional life (which is almost her whole lifetime) was pandemic in show business, and there we casualties of the system. However, Judy's innate sensitivity played her a duff card, so that she indeed suffered for her art. Add to this her generosity of spirit (she gave much too much) and you have a lethal cocktail. However "false", this is HER story and in HER own words.
hirchik 1 year ago 2
@hirchik Marilyn Monore, who had a similar personality to Judy, said once, "I don't lie. I might exaggerate or leave something out, but I don't lie...it all comes from truth." That's a fine point, but I suppose Miss G. would understand. Judy told stories slanted to provide the maximum sympathy. She never, ever took responsibility for any of her issues. In her case, when you have that much talent, the casualty is an ability to take responsibility. She was badly used, but...who wasn't?
waif55 1 year ago
@waif55 I don't agree that Judy ever played the sympathy card and my God she had every right to. Judy was philosophical as well as emotionally intelligent, which got her through psychologically, but physically she just plain wore out. Did she take enough responsibility? She was a woman at a certain juncture in time, when women were quite often exploited by powerful and, sometimes, sadistic men. We, in 2010, are in a quite different world, thank goodness.
hirchik 1 year ago
@hirchik I think (i certainly don't KNOW) that Judy neeed to be seen as fragile, used, victimized. It satisfied a need. And she was all those things, time to time. But as to the "victim card" you might get an argument from Liza. One of few times she ever came close to being critical she related a story about how they argued, "You're always looking for sympathy!" Liza said. Judy replied, "Sympathy is my business." And it was--in her art and often in her life. It is her art than endures.
waif55 1 year ago
@waif55 WHATEVER,"ANOTHER ARMCHAIR FREUD",WHO WAS A COKE INJECTING ADDICT,WHO SMOKED 20 CIGARS A DAY TILL HIS JAW FELL OFF(YES,YOU CALIFORNIA DOPES,CIGAR'S ARE LIT,AND INHALED,JUST NOT LIKE A CIG,GET IT,WHY NOT JUST NOT LIGHT IT,GET IT,WHY DOES IT HAVE A HOLE,GET IT,HERE,IF YOU WERE ON SPEED,EVERY DAY,SINCE,WHEN,12,AND DOPE TO MAKE U SLEEP,AND THEN LATER DRANK,TO ESCAPE,I REEEAAALY THINK YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO GET MESSED UP WITH FANTASY,"PHOTOPLAY PEOPLE FROM HELL"
alezander666 5 months ago
This woman lived the life of dozens of people whichmade her look years older than she actually was. She worked and worked and the saying "Words hit harder than a fist" really applies here. The mental & emotional abuse from her mother & the studio telling her she was ugly. a hunchback etc. then being around the most glamourous movie stars constantly seeing their beauty and then her inner demons telling her she was ugly compounded the problem daily. Judy who had the most talent suffered greatly.
NFitalianGuy 1 year ago
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Nice pic at 3:00. It's funny. :) I wish the quality was a little better. I can't make out everything she says.
vintagegurl1939 1 year ago
Nice pic at 3:00. It's funny. :) I wish the quality was a little better. I can't make out everything she says.
vintagegurl1939 1 year ago
omg that is so sad but so cool that u found this :D
judygarlandxoxo 1 year ago
She is talking about the actress Sylvia Sidney and I think Carlton Aslop..
NFitalianGuy 1 year ago
Judy was very smart and sounds very good here. I wish they had pursued her autobiography imagine how wonderful it would have been to have heard it all in her words. Lorna's book and movie had many inconsistancies to it. Lorna once had a Q & A session at the 1997 Judy festival in GR,MN and Sid actually told her thatshe was factually wrong on certain statements.. She didnt know what to say.. Sid was very sincere at the festival and my chat with him was amazing..
NFitalianGuy 1 year ago
she started to mention buz berkely at the end.
even gene kelly couldn't take berkely's direction and helped force him to quit during take me out to the ballgame although he got screen credit. berkley was a recovering acoholic and freed was sympathetic but then esther williams also complained so berkley never did another musical.
bigred997 1 year ago
It's heartbreaking that the press and so many of the people around her badgered and hounded this brilliant woman into such a state. It certainly emphasizes how truly sensitive she was .. and how heartless and idiotic they were.
FrancesLandgar 1 year ago 2
@FrancesLandgar I agree - she sounds so sane and reasonable ans self-aware and (of course - no suprise) very highly intelligent
Not at all the basket case presented by many biographies
Just a genius person exploited and exploited and exploited - who wouldnt breakdown eventually?
grai 1 year ago
"the idea of working with Busby Berkeley represented all the years of Benzedrine.." whoa
grai 1 year ago
@grai from wikipedia: "Benzedrine is the trade name of the racemic mixture of amphetamine (dl-amphetamine)... marketed under this brandname in the USA by Smith, Kline & French in the form of inhalers, starting in 1928. Benzedrine was used to enlarge nasal and bronchial passages and it is closely related to other stimulants produced later, such as dextroamphetamine (d-amphetamine) and methamphetamine." whoa indeed!
Vistamister 1 year ago
WoW This is deep.
ilovejudytoo 1 year ago
Wow! It just gets better and better - stories I knew to be false - validated - with great detail - by the star in question - thanks for sharing.
ivanjaykcmo 1 year ago
WOW!!!
dedefellini 1 year ago
I agree FLBoy46...I think that unfortunately certain things didn't work in her favor and she did not have the kind of people around her who could/would help her go in the right direction...Thanks for posting BuzzStephens1, would love to hear any other bit of this recording you may have...
bluzgal87 1 year ago
Not many of us can imagine a life of total celebrity, with every bit of our lives "front and center," much less discussing something so personal as a suicide attempt.
Say what you will, but this lady was a class act with a strong constitution.
FLBoy46 1 year ago 2
I was really please with the quality of this recording. I didn't quite catch the bit at 49 seconds though- what did Judy's mother used to phone her & say?
Thanks very much for sharing! I love to hear her talk in such a candid way :)
SOPHI3333333333333 1 year ago