Hello. I have some Krav Maga videos and Systema breathing technique videos... Is it possible to learn some moves by watching it (about 10 hours long watching), and else - is it a good idea to try to train it with a partner who knows just ju jitsu ? ?( i did kendo and box a bit)
if im not gonna be that good - is it better to use common box if im attacked or try this ?
Its pratical,but as always,a good grappler can always in over a Good striker. Not to be a Buzz Kill,but dont think Krav Maga is all its hyped up to be,its a Marketing myth about the isrealic army using it,and the whole taking on 10 guys with guns and Knifes things,is not practical,But the whole standup sparring is great,I dont see how you can train in eye gouges and groind shots,it looks like muay thai but with those things.
When you respect all arts and train in as many as you can, you will have a more clear understanding. The BJJ system that is taught at our location is under 7 time World BJJ champion and 7 time Brazilian Champion Robson Moura. We know about Grappling/BJJ! If you are concerned about winning a fair fight, then grappling may work. I witnessed a horrible act as two small thugs attacked a big strong guy who tried to grapple. A life was lost! He needed to use self defense, yet, he chose to fight!
There is no factual stats of fights going to the ground however I think it is a fair bet that most if not all all fights start on their feet. Making a comment about grappling vs striking is naive. The myth is that the Gracies were street fighters.... they were not ! every fight they had was to advertise their art under a set of rules that favor grappling against fighters with limited knowledge of submissions. Krav and arts like it emphasize no rules.
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES Thanx, it kills me when you here the statistics of fights going to the ground etc...as far as I know there is no national database or statician maintaining those stats. There is no Government agency keeping these statistics. And rules what the only rules are there are none only goals and in the streets the goals can be money, drugs gang initiation or your life and the more ruthless a young aspiring gang banger is the better for his rep.
@Richdanahuff I am with you 100 %. It is certainly vital to have ground fighting skills, but you use your legs to escape so standing up is a requirement in self defense period.
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES Agreed brother, I am a Army guy and the thought of being on the ground in combat or in a street fight (been in both) makes the hair on my neck stand up. Been there and done it arm bars from the mount work in the octagon and yes they work on the street but not fighting multiple attackers. I was a wrestler and a boxer and later got into submission wrestling (Catch). Real life experience taught me to never be disillusioned about common sense reality based fighting.
@Richdanahuff agreed. As a Krav Maga practitioner and instructor (ex army), we do a lot of ground training. Very good ground work is available due to the pioneering aspects of BJJ,sambo,pankration and the lot. Good skills to have to GET BACK UP. BUT common sense says STAY ON YOUR FEET.
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES I would agree with that having trained in different systems and being a current H2H Instructor in the Army. The ground fighting I teach is the current army stuff with caveats to emphasis on getting off of the ground. or controlling from the top. BJJ is great for getting off your back if needed. Too many train the guard as if it is a dominate position. The guard is the answer too not being ABLE to get off the ground but not a desired place to be.
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES I consider myself a competent ground guy as a wrestler, with training in Catch(prefered)and BJJ and the latest is MACP. I prefer what Krav emphasizes, the plan is simple and that is a trained response to a bad situation. Any plan is better than no plan. If people are trained as you know they will execute what they know and the stress Krav and HAGANA put people under is the key to survival the paralyzing fear people experience will cause freeze unless they have auto response.
@Richdanahuff once again WELL SAID. I really would like to train in MAC. I spent 10 years in Army, but was out before Larson implemented the MAC. I have heard that it is "spreading" into civilian sectors offering civilian instructorship. I would love to have it at my school. I teach Frontline Krav Maga under Rick Seid. He is a direct student of the late Eli Avikzar (that is our lineage). I have a friend and a student of mine in Army who is "student" of MAC.
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES Yes there are civilian guys who have certified up to the level 4. Larson is a civilian now and has certified Greg Thompson in NC, John Ranken in TN, and And Dave Durrel ?? in KS. If guys are credible I trhink he still does it. Units contract civilian M.A.C instructors quite a bit specifically SOF units. If you go to the Army Combatives website there is an e-mail link to Matt Larson he is supportive of spreading MAC to the civilian sector.
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES The training timeline goes like this for instructors level 1 is 1 week(40hrs) level 2 is 2 weeks(80Hrs) 3 is 4 wks(160 hrs) and 4 is 4 wks (160 hrs) I am a 4 and can certify up tp level 2 instructors. As an instructor as long as you teach the core system you can train additional stuff. You will end up getting Krav students out of that. Any former Marine, SEAL or Army SF guy who has been to Israel and trained Krav.
Of course you cannot train groin shots and eye gouges on a unprotected partner. You can train yourself for a trained response in real life and fighting dirty is a state of mind. You have to train to think like a ruthless no rules type of guy. Put a MMA guy in the street where there are no rules and ask him to summon a street instinct when he always trains for fights with rules couyld spell disaster. There is no doubt MMA guys have the skills to hurt but they are the best within MMA rule sets.
A trained athlete trains to be instinctive under the rules they train around. A street situation has no rules involved no such thing as cheaters or wussies who won't fight without backup. The MMA guy is a conventional infantry he is extremely dangerous if you fight under his rules and face him. The streets are full of guerilla fighters they are unconventional soldiers since they have no rules or real commanders they decide the fights rules which usually are whatever works at the time.
@Richdanahuff Yeah I agree. I meen what i said was 5-6 months ago,Ive learned a little since than. Anyways I live in Florida,which isnt the worst of places,but all these fights that break out at partys I go to,or just some fight around my street,they just throw crazy haymakers,or maybe try to slam. Im not training to fight super man,I just do what they teach me,Im not thinking 24/7 about self defence,Life has other priorities.
@yeee941 Yesh I understand sometimes it takes having your eyes opened by experiences or events. I suppose a person who lives in a world where criminals and thugs are everywhere would always be prepared. Life does have other priorities for certain sometimes its survival or peace of mind in a bad place that allows for you to live unimpeded.
@yeee941 you're grappler / striker comment is meant for competition. We go to the ground the game changer is me biting off your ear or digging my thumb in scraping your retina. Or worse yet deploying a knife while you go for the armbar. You are half right about Israel's modern army. Krav Maga is still taught to special forces, commandos & anti-terror units. Regular army not so much. Krav Maga does incorporate elements of Muay Thai and western Boxing. Weapon defenses second to none. go to part 2
@Yeee941 Part 2 Groundfight has been enhanced with modified BJJ for street application. Our self defense tactics are pretty unique as well while all is based on simplicity and natural instincts instead of complex technique. training methods are also unique by training in the dark,outside, in vehicles, etc. under as real conditions & attacks as possible. proper gear allows for realism. If your opinion is based on KMAA assoc. I understand. Outside of los angeles it is watered down & limited.
The sound effect from his mouth is part of Krav Maga, although he uses it more like a boxer, which he obviously trained. In KM, a single breath should extend throughout a strike combination.
I think you should try them both and get a good feel for the instructor and students in the class. (If they offer a free lesson!) I have experience in Krav Maga and a few other systems of self defense and find useful things in each.
We study small circle Jui Jitsu, BJJ, Boxing, Karate and TDK, Krav Maga & Commando Krav Maga at our training center. Other styles always manage to blend into our Krav Maga training. We respect and try to understand all martial arts and systems of self defense.
From my perspective : Silat is a martial art, Krav is a combat technique with no rule (some are kept only for training purposes). Both are efficient, and both have their advantages and inconvenient. Silat will strive for the perfection in the movement (although efficiency is a requirement) whereas Krav Maga will strive for efficiency first (simplicity, rapidity...)
AIKIDO FTW REROLL FROM THIS SPORT AND COME TO AIKIDO MASTERS TO MAKE YOU REAL MACHINE IN SELF DEFENCE. You can simply defend yourself versus 5-8 person attack if you have black belt+ defend from knife and gun treaths.
Yes Krav maga is a wonderful system and there are many others. I like this clip because it appears that the individuals are working on their own personal development. A style, system or technique is as only good as the person doing it. Keep up the good work.
Very nice. You guys got me looking at Krav Maga. Funny it was my kung fu teacher who recommend it to me, since I am moving out of town. He is, now Iam very impressed with it
Be selective of the Krav Maga school you attend. Krav Maga schools are NOT all created equal. Unfortunately Krav has been diminished and watered down here in the states. If the place you visit is doing sit ups and push ups al class long. Find somewhere else to go. These guys appear to have a nice grip on Krav Maga. Good work here guys and lady. Contact me if you visit Florida.
For the front rolls, why didn't they roll forward then turned back into fighting stance?
xjay2kayx 7 months ago
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Fragadast 9 months ago
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Iriss038 1 year ago
Hello. I have some Krav Maga videos and Systema breathing technique videos... Is it possible to learn some moves by watching it (about 10 hours long watching), and else - is it a good idea to try to train it with a partner who knows just ju jitsu ? ?( i did kendo and box a bit)
if im not gonna be that good - is it better to use common box if im attacked or try this ?
mortarman288 1 year ago
I think more people should train and let these attackers have IT! Just tired of seeing the random acts of violence on the news!!!
tkddevon 2 years ago
check out shukido on you tube. easy to learn and practical
bendixen12 2 years ago
Great. Right to the point.
defendself 2 years ago
Just Do It! Good job!
KravMagaNJ 2 years ago
I see Krav Maga has many techniques from other systems. That's good! (Jeet Kune Do)
tkddevon 2 years ago
this is my dads fighting style... damn i wish i learned this over thai kickboxing
Jamerica9 2 years ago
i think the kicks are from muay thai so you are part way there already.
nyclear 2 years ago
that was fuckin nuts!!! u guys are crazy
heineken44i 2 years ago
:20 bitch slap!
xD
tkmsk8kid 2 years ago
lol the TRUE bitch slap that is!
theflea39 2 years ago
this is why i choose KM.
Marty32 2 years ago
WOW!!!! That was pure, 100% Krav Maga!! Great stufff guys!!
kasem1065 2 years ago
have you guys actually used this in real life situation?
SLITTHROAT13 2 years ago
Yes.
jsumm54421 2 years ago 3
lol, if you dont think krav maga is practical ur crazy.
24miggy24 2 years ago
Its pratical,but as always,a good grappler can always in over a Good striker. Not to be a Buzz Kill,but dont think Krav Maga is all its hyped up to be,its a Marketing myth about the isrealic army using it,and the whole taking on 10 guys with guns and Knifes things,is not practical,But the whole standup sparring is great,I dont see how you can train in eye gouges and groind shots,it looks like muay thai but with those things.
yeee941 2 years ago
When you respect all arts and train in as many as you can, you will have a more clear understanding. The BJJ system that is taught at our location is under 7 time World BJJ champion and 7 time Brazilian Champion Robson Moura. We know about Grappling/BJJ! If you are concerned about winning a fair fight, then grappling may work. I witnessed a horrible act as two small thugs attacked a big strong guy who tried to grapple. A life was lost! He needed to use self defense, yet, he chose to fight!
jsumm54421 2 years ago 5
There is no factual stats of fights going to the ground however I think it is a fair bet that most if not all all fights start on their feet. Making a comment about grappling vs striking is naive. The myth is that the Gracies were street fighters.... they were not ! every fight they had was to advertise their art under a set of rules that favor grappling against fighters with limited knowledge of submissions. Krav and arts like it emphasize no rules.
Richdanahuff 2 years ago 10
@Richdanahuff well said my friend.... WELL SAID.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 year ago
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES Thanx, it kills me when you here the statistics of fights going to the ground etc...as far as I know there is no national database or statician maintaining those stats. There is no Government agency keeping these statistics. And rules what the only rules are there are none only goals and in the streets the goals can be money, drugs gang initiation or your life and the more ruthless a young aspiring gang banger is the better for his rep.
Richdanahuff 1 year ago
@Richdanahuff I am with you 100 %. It is certainly vital to have ground fighting skills, but you use your legs to escape so standing up is a requirement in self defense period.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 year ago
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES Agreed brother, I am a Army guy and the thought of being on the ground in combat or in a street fight (been in both) makes the hair on my neck stand up. Been there and done it arm bars from the mount work in the octagon and yes they work on the street but not fighting multiple attackers. I was a wrestler and a boxer and later got into submission wrestling (Catch). Real life experience taught me to never be disillusioned about common sense reality based fighting.
Richdanahuff 1 year ago
@Richdanahuff agreed. As a Krav Maga practitioner and instructor (ex army), we do a lot of ground training. Very good ground work is available due to the pioneering aspects of BJJ,sambo,pankration and the lot. Good skills to have to GET BACK UP. BUT common sense says STAY ON YOUR FEET.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 year ago
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES I would agree with that having trained in different systems and being a current H2H Instructor in the Army. The ground fighting I teach is the current army stuff with caveats to emphasis on getting off of the ground. or controlling from the top. BJJ is great for getting off your back if needed. Too many train the guard as if it is a dominate position. The guard is the answer too not being ABLE to get off the ground but not a desired place to be.
Richdanahuff 1 year ago
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES I consider myself a competent ground guy as a wrestler, with training in Catch(prefered)and BJJ and the latest is MACP. I prefer what Krav emphasizes, the plan is simple and that is a trained response to a bad situation. Any plan is better than no plan. If people are trained as you know they will execute what they know and the stress Krav and HAGANA put people under is the key to survival the paralyzing fear people experience will cause freeze unless they have auto response.
Richdanahuff 1 year ago
@Richdanahuff once again WELL SAID. I really would like to train in MAC. I spent 10 years in Army, but was out before Larson implemented the MAC. I have heard that it is "spreading" into civilian sectors offering civilian instructorship. I would love to have it at my school. I teach Frontline Krav Maga under Rick Seid. He is a direct student of the late Eli Avikzar (that is our lineage). I have a friend and a student of mine in Army who is "student" of MAC.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 year ago
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES Yes there are civilian guys who have certified up to the level 4. Larson is a civilian now and has certified Greg Thompson in NC, John Ranken in TN, and And Dave Durrel ?? in KS. If guys are credible I trhink he still does it. Units contract civilian M.A.C instructors quite a bit specifically SOF units. If you go to the Army Combatives website there is an e-mail link to Matt Larson he is supportive of spreading MAC to the civilian sector.
Richdanahuff 1 year ago
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES The training timeline goes like this for instructors level 1 is 1 week(40hrs) level 2 is 2 weeks(80Hrs) 3 is 4 wks(160 hrs) and 4 is 4 wks (160 hrs) I am a 4 and can certify up tp level 2 instructors. As an instructor as long as you teach the core system you can train additional stuff. You will end up getting Krav students out of that. Any former Marine, SEAL or Army SF guy who has been to Israel and trained Krav.
Richdanahuff 1 year ago
Of course you cannot train groin shots and eye gouges on a unprotected partner. You can train yourself for a trained response in real life and fighting dirty is a state of mind. You have to train to think like a ruthless no rules type of guy. Put a MMA guy in the street where there are no rules and ask him to summon a street instinct when he always trains for fights with rules couyld spell disaster. There is no doubt MMA guys have the skills to hurt but they are the best within MMA rule sets.
Richdanahuff 1 year ago
A trained athlete trains to be instinctive under the rules they train around. A street situation has no rules involved no such thing as cheaters or wussies who won't fight without backup. The MMA guy is a conventional infantry he is extremely dangerous if you fight under his rules and face him. The streets are full of guerilla fighters they are unconventional soldiers since they have no rules or real commanders they decide the fights rules which usually are whatever works at the time.
Richdanahuff 1 year ago
@Richdanahuff Yeah I agree. I meen what i said was 5-6 months ago,Ive learned a little since than. Anyways I live in Florida,which isnt the worst of places,but all these fights that break out at partys I go to,or just some fight around my street,they just throw crazy haymakers,or maybe try to slam. Im not training to fight super man,I just do what they teach me,Im not thinking 24/7 about self defence,Life has other priorities.
yeee941 1 year ago
@yeee941 Yesh I understand sometimes it takes having your eyes opened by experiences or events. I suppose a person who lives in a world where criminals and thugs are everywhere would always be prepared. Life does have other priorities for certain sometimes its survival or peace of mind in a bad place that allows for you to live unimpeded.
Richdanahuff 1 year ago
@yeee941 you're grappler / striker comment is meant for competition. We go to the ground the game changer is me biting off your ear or digging my thumb in scraping your retina. Or worse yet deploying a knife while you go for the armbar. You are half right about Israel's modern army. Krav Maga is still taught to special forces, commandos & anti-terror units. Regular army not so much. Krav Maga does incorporate elements of Muay Thai and western Boxing. Weapon defenses second to none. go to part 2
FrontlineKravMaga 1 year ago
@Yeee941 Part 2 Groundfight has been enhanced with modified BJJ for street application. Our self defense tactics are pretty unique as well while all is based on simplicity and natural instincts instead of complex technique. training methods are also unique by training in the dark,outside, in vehicles, etc. under as real conditions & attacks as possible. proper gear allows for realism. If your opinion is based on KMAA assoc. I understand. Outside of los angeles it is watered down & limited.
FrontlineKravMaga 1 year ago
@yeee941 Grappling and self-defense are two very separate worlds. Ground grappling is not the best thing to do on the street.
Ryokushindo 1 year ago
The sound effect from his mouth is part of Krav Maga, although he uses it more like a boxer, which he obviously trained. In KM, a single breath should extend throughout a strike combination.
mdu2112 2 years ago
Great job. I just enjoy seeing people serious about what they are training in!
defendself 2 years ago
Hmm, what would you reccommened for self defence, krav maga or silat?
stealthboy50 2 years ago
I think you should try them both and get a good feel for the instructor and students in the class. (If they offer a free lesson!) I have experience in Krav Maga and a few other systems of self defense and find useful things in each.
jsumm54421 2 years ago
what other style have u done ?
btw you guys look great =] loved the video
24miggy24 2 years ago
We study small circle Jui Jitsu, BJJ, Boxing, Karate and TDK, Krav Maga & Commando Krav Maga at our training center. Other styles always manage to blend into our Krav Maga training. We respect and try to understand all martial arts and systems of self defense.
jsumm54421 2 years ago
From my perspective : Silat is a martial art, Krav is a combat technique with no rule (some are kept only for training purposes). Both are efficient, and both have their advantages and inconvenient. Silat will strive for the perfection in the movement (although efficiency is a requirement) whereas Krav Maga will strive for efficiency first (simplicity, rapidity...)
Mngnt 2 years ago
Very true Mngnt.
kasem1065 2 years ago
krav maga
julix2008 2 years ago
AIKIDO FTW REROLL FROM THIS SPORT AND COME TO AIKIDO MASTERS TO MAKE YOU REAL MACHINE IN SELF DEFENCE. You can simply defend yourself versus 5-8 person attack if you have black belt+ defend from knife and gun treaths.
joan4o 2 years ago
wat do u think krav maga does?
bensmizz 2 years ago
the best is aikido
rotanruh 2 years ago
no, aikido is the weakest.
GreatestRockyFan 2 years ago
no, aikido is the weakest.
GreatestRockyFan 2 years ago
that guy with the bandana is a tank
PS9rugby 2 years ago
Fukking beatiful!!!
Rtv03 2 years ago
im facinated by this martial art!
luizhxcx 2 years ago
Yes Krav maga is a wonderful system and there are many others. I like this clip because it appears that the individuals are working on their own personal development. A style, system or technique is as only good as the person doing it. Keep up the good work.
defendself 2 years ago
Very nice. You guys got me looking at Krav Maga. Funny it was my kung fu teacher who recommend it to me, since I am moving out of town. He is, now Iam very impressed with it
Hanumanpaw 3 years ago
Be selective of the Krav Maga school you attend. Krav Maga schools are NOT all created equal. Unfortunately Krav has been diminished and watered down here in the states. If the place you visit is doing sit ups and push ups al class long. Find somewhere else to go. These guys appear to have a nice grip on Krav Maga. Good work here guys and lady. Contact me if you visit Florida.
FrontlineKravMaga 2 years ago
Looking good guys! Dude on the pads at the end is a monster, lightning fast hands. Nice job.
bldevor 3 years ago
Good work. Really got em looking sharp. (USSSS). Cleve
auggiemetalo 3 years ago