@lifeform106 Yeah, but their Alamosaurus model in Last Day of the Dinosaurs is the same model as the Sauroposeidon from Clash of the Dinosaurs, and their Quetzalcoatlus still lacks pycnofibres....... Still it's a good watch
@Ironhide661 well it is the same Quetzalcoatlus model as in clash of the dinosaurs so they can't fix that and did you enjoy how the extinction was! I mean how great the CGI was in the extinction and they made you feel so bad for the dinosaurs
@lifeform106 I don't mind the skin texture on the males... I mind the fact that they lacked feathers :P Last Day of the Dinosaurs was better than Clash of the Dinosaurs, but it's still ridden with some errors....;)
@Ironhide661 have you notice they did not make chronosaurus use sound for a defense like in clash of the dinosaurs, they did not make the raptors use there claws for slashing, and t-rex was not a slow lumbering animal life in clash of the dinosaurs, and more! I really enjoyed last day of the dinosaurs cause the way the extinction was is awesome and it maybe the best dinosaur extinction documentary ever!
@Ironhide661 hey do you think the skin texture on the male t-rexs in DR is bad? Cause they have white heads! Do you think that is stupid cause how are they going to sneak up on prey!
@lifeform106 I disagree. In many modern species of bird the males sacrifice camouflage with their environment for sexual display. Think of peafowl, pheasants, ducks, turkeys, chickens and geese as examples. All exhibit dramatic sexual dimorphism. Dimorphism in these animals (in which the males are more visually striking) are necessary for both attracting mates and distracting predators from the mates and nests which they must protect. ;)
@Ironhide661 well my friends hate the skin texture on the males like crazy! And have you notice that last day of the dinosaurs fixed many of the errors they made in clash of the dinosaur ;)
@lifeform106 Feathers would have been just as useful for keeping a large animal such as Tyrannosaurus cool in the direct heat of the sun as for helping it retain warmth in the cold. ;)
@lifeform106 The closest living relative of mosasaurs, varanid lizards, do not practice parental care, not to mention like mosasaurs, anacondas give borth to live young, yet anacondas do not practice parental care at all
@lifeform106 I honestly don't find that the dinosaurs act in DR stupid, most other shows depict them to behave like monsters. Now that is what I call stupid behavior.;)
@lifeform106 It depends.;) Usually I'm OK with those because IMO it's either funny (like the 2 stupid Guanlongs and the relationship between the Ornitholestes and the Rhamphorynchus) or fits with the story (like the "truce" between the Allosaurus and the Dinheirosaurus). However, the mosasaur parental care in Episode 1 is unacceptable IMO :P
Anyone know what happened to this series, seems like discovery got rid of it somehow. I do remember seeing the one episode with the broken jawed allosaurus(may or may not have been the dinosaur) and ever since I've been trying to find Dinosaur revolution stuff and cant find a single thing.
@lifeform106 I'm 17, and there are quite several things that weren't discussed in paleo-documentaries, including the fact that the colors of Anchiornis and Sinosauropteryx were now known, the recent giant Alamosaurus remains were found, and so many more. Both Prehostoric Park and Jurassic Park got the orbital horns of the T. rex wrong, they got pronated hands, and lacked feathers in BOTH the juveniles and the adults.
@Ironhide661 does this soud like a good episode list?
Episode 1: rise of the jurassic! Where they talk about how dinosaurs became bigger and became larger into titans in the late jurassic.
Episode 2: Killer theropods. Where they talk about new badder theropods, with more weapons like tyrannotian, new raptors(how raptors look in life with feathers and how they really hunt), talk about feathered tyrannosaurs locked in a combact with horn dinosaurs from the start and so much more.
@Ironhide661 Episode 2: New reigns. Where we talk about new places where dinosaurs were never thought to live or never new they did. Like North Africa, South America, the north and south pole, and Europe. And show the strangest dinosaur living there too.
Episode 4: Clash of the titans! Where they talk about dinosaur battles. And how they went in real life and showed new battles never showed before. And explain how many battles we new thought happen are wrong over the years
@lifeform106 Depends on what you want. ;) Just keep in mind that if you're making a story about the Hell Creek fauna (with T. rex, Triceratops etc.), I suggest you not to end the story with the mass extinction (though you could make a brief mention about it), as it's already overdone (the Hell Creek stories of WWD, When Dinos Roamed America, Prehistoric Park and Dinosaur Revolution ALL ended with that boring old extinction :P)
@Ironhide661 well what new stuff is there out there on dinosaurs no documentary has talk about yet? And i really want to know what s wrong with the prehisotoric park t-rex and jurassic fight club t-rex? Like on the model not what it is compared too. and also how old are you?
@lifeform106 Truth About Killer Dinos is around at No.2 ;) Not sure about Gojirasaurus, I'm not too good about Triassic dinos, so maybe the Gojirasaurus pic in Wikipedia is probably the best one. BTW if you're gonna make a Hell Creek story, I would recommend you to have the story NOT ending with the K-T extinction, as that is wayyy overdone.;)
@lifeform106 The Sinraptor in Dinosaur Revolution is most likely Sinraptor hepingensis instead of Sinraptor dongi.;) About the differences Saurophaganax and Allosaurus amplexus: I honestly dont know, as their remains are uncommon
@lifeform106 Sinraptor dongi did coexist with Guanlong and Yinlong. Can't find any of the info about the stegosaurs that coexist with them, but here are the sauropods that did coexist with them: the gigantic mamenchisaur Mamenchisaurus sinocanadorum, Bellusaurus (which is only known from juvenile remains), Klamelisaurus and Tienshanosaurus
@Ironhide661 wait but in dinosaur revolution they showed singraptor live with shunosaurus?And Saurophaganax what proof is there that make giant allosaurus and Saurophaganax seperate?
@lifeform106 Saurophaganax and Allosaurus amplexus are probably the same size. As both animals are known from poor remains, I honestly cant tell you the differences about the 2 animals, though Saurophaganax could be the same animals as the giant Allosaurus. (the most recent research suggest that they are seperate though)
@lifeform106 Not bad Saurophaganax which lived a bit later than the normal Allosaurus, unless you meant the giant Allosaurus.;) Guanlong and Yinlong lived a bit later than Shunosaurus and Huayangosaurus if I remember correctly, though I must admit that my knoweledge about Chinese dinosaurs isn't as good as the North American ones.;) Keep up the good work!
@Ironhide661 yes i did met giant allosaurus and was Saurophaganax and giant allosaurus the same size? And what are the differences between the two? And what sauropod and stegosaur live with gaulong and yinlong? And did sinraptor live with gaulong and yinlong?
@Ironhide661 hey these are all the animals in the first episode but did they live at the same time? Late trassic Placries Postosuchus Celophis gojirasaurus Mid jurassic primitve orithropods yinlong Gaulong sinraptor huaguhsaurus(a stegosaur) shunosaurus Late jurassic diplodocus saurathaganhx allosaurus camrasaurus stegosaurus alpatosaurus Those are all the animals in episode 1 Are they in the right time zone?
@lifeform106 I know is not my business, but it sound like your talk about a documentary, I dont know? I only want hear about the documentary, and so I jump out again ;)
@DinosaurApe ok what i mean by a documentary is that i am making a claymation documentary i making! It is the biggest hit that will air on my channel. I am working on the clay models for the show they i would film it and edit it in summer vacation. But there would be no trailer to be uploaded cause it is a series and i can't film all the episodes
@lifeform106 About your claymation dino doc: Sounds like a good idea.:) Thing is, there will be bound to have incorrect facts in any dino doc since newer discoveries have a tendency to overturn previously established facts.;)
@Ironhide661 no i am getting my info from real places for facts and there are going to be 8 episodes and the show is going to be called "The New World of Dinosaurs". The first episode that i am working on is called "rise of the jurassic" and would show how dinosaurs became titans. Like it would first show the late trassic in Mexico then go to the mid jurassic in china and then go to the late jurassic in Oklahoma
@lifeform106 Tyrannosaurids could have used feathers for display. Feathers would have been just as useful for keeping a large animal cool in the direct heat of the sun as for helping it retain warmth in the cold. Recent studies indicating that tyrannosaurs were endothermic heterotherms would have made this strategy even more advantageous.
@lifeform106 Large tyrannosaurids not only had a lower metabolism but also a much greater surface area and air sacs, unlike big mammals like elephants and rhinos that are terrible at losing heat because they are built like big solid blocks. (Also, elephants had semi-aquatic ancestors, and large semi-aquatic mammals tend to reduce their hair either way)
@Ironhide661 so how does that explains how? But why would they need it! And you inspired me to make my claymation dinosaur documentary with no incorrect facts. What do you think of the idea?
@lifeform106 I liked the When Dinos Roamed America Rex model, though the animation sucked...:P Truth About Killer Dinos Rex is OK, and Jurassic Fight Club Rex looks more like Jurassic Park Rex than the actual animal.:P
@lifeform106 Not sure whether I can list the top 5 faves and worst ones, but my fav T. rex models are from Dinosaur Revolution since they are based on the actual skeletons (the adults still need feathers though....:P). Prehistoric Park comes in 2nd fave. Worst Rex models are from WWD, Jurassic Fight Club (just a JP Rex rip-off), Valley of the T. rex and Clash of the Dinosaurs
@Ironhide661 i still don't know why you think t-rex needs feathers? Cause t-rex ancestries did but they were very small and need warm. Can you explain why they need feathers on there back and tail?
@Ironhide661 And what about When Dinosaurs Roamed America t-rex or the truth about killer dinosaurs t-rex? When Dinosaurs Roamed America t-rex look like it was based off the skeleton cause they one time did a x-rey of the t-rex model and then showed a actual t-rex skeleton that match the model perfectly. And what is wrong with jurassic fight club t-rex?
@lifeform106 5) Prehistoric Park 4) March of the Dinosaurs 3) When Dinos Roamed America and Dinosaur Planet 2) Planet Dinosaur and Paleo-World 1) Dinosaur Revolution (minus the mosasaur segment, which was bad and unessacary)
@lifeform106 Oh yeah I almost forgot about that LOL.:) Well, Prehistoric Park forgot to put feathers on the troodonts and Ornithomimus, their T. rex looks too much like Albertosaurus, and had many errors, but I suppose the awesome music made up for it. :D
@Ironhide661 well the t-rex model in prehistoric park was way better then the t-rex model in wwd. so know that you saw when dinosaur roamed America, march of the dinosaurs and we put DR In the list. What is your top 5 best dinosaur documentaries?
@lifeform106 Good point. Besides I also disagree putting quills on ceratopsians. BTW remember that WWD reconstructed Diplodocus with long spines at the back (which also can be seen onDino Rev's Dinheirosaurus and Shunosaurus with them and When Dinos Roamed America's Apatosaurus)? Turns out they might just be large scales with a central peak, which probably did not exceed a couple of inches in height, may not have been midline structures and may not have been visible from a distance.
@Ironhide661 the diplodocus was incorrect in wwd right? And why is prehistoric park not in your list for best dinosaur documentaries cause prehistoric park was so much better then wwd and the dinosaur models were a lot better!
@lifeform106 Probably used for display, if they had those quills at all. Quills are found on Psittacosaurus, but it's a far more primitive animal and not the direct ancestor of ceratopsians.
@lifeform106 If you mean why dromaeosaurs need feathers, it's for a variety of reasons: flight (for the smaller ones like Microraptor and possibly Rahonavis), display, insulation etc. ;)
@Ironhide661 no i mean the horned dinosaurs like triceratops cause i said before people on youtube said that triceratops and other horned dinosaurs had quills on there bodies is this true and why would horn dinosaurs need quills?
@goatmanguy Also, once some dinosaurs evolved feathers and lost them at some parts of the body, like modern birds (eg. Ostrich) the part of the body NEVER regrew dense scales back, leaving just naked skin. Proof of this can be found at the type specimen of Gorgosaurus, as Phil Currie had reported about naked skin being found from it.
@goatmanguy The fossil evidence disagrees with you, there are plenty of dinosaurs found with protofeathers (Tianyulong, Sinosauropteryx, Dilong paradoxus, Beipiaosaurus etc.) and actual feathers (Sinornithosaurus, Velociraptor (quill knobs of it are present), Microraptor and etc.) Crocs are LOUSY analogues for dinosaur intugement since crocs have a completely different lifestyles compared to dinosaurs.
i really dought that dinosaurs had feathers, i mean do you ever see crocodiles with feathers? besides the little bumps that they, i guess find on dino skin?, could just easily be their skin we dont know what their skin looked like
@lifeform106 Too early to say whether it had quills or not. According to some, the "quills knobs" on Triceratops could be just large scales, though it's very hard to say at the moment.
@lifeform106 That's a common error; allosaurids and spinosaurids actually have proportionally shorter legs than tyrannosaurids (thats why among all the giant theropods, tyrannosaurids are the best suited for running). As I said earlier, check out the picture "Biggest, Baddest REVISED" on deviantart by Kronosaurus82 for more info ;)
@lifeform106 Spinosaurus was probably 10.6 feet tall at the hips, and Giga (and possibly Carcharo too) is probably 11.5 feet tall at the hips. Spinosaurus is taller than T. rex only because of it's sail, without the sail Spino is shorter. This is because spinosaurids had proportionally shorter legs.;)
@Ironhide661 are you sure cause i seen some people make spinosaurus stand 14 feet high and it's sail made it 20 feet tall! And most shows like planet dinosaur made carcodontosaurus stand the same height as t-rex
@lifeform106 Giganotosaurus is probably 3.5 meters tall at the hips. Not sure about Carcharodontosaurus, but I guess it was roughly around that height, and Spinosaurus was probably 3.25 meters tall at the hips (minus the sail). Check out the drawing "Biggest, Baddest REVISED" by Kronosaurus82 at deviantart (though Carcharo is absent from the scale). The funny thing is while Giga, Carcharo and Spino were LONGER and HEAVIER then T. rex, they were SHORTER than T. rex in height! o.O
@lifeform106 Sue the T. rex was 14 feet (4 meters) tall at the hips, at head height it was taller.;) The largest T. rex was 17 feet (5.2 meters) tall at head height (check out the drawing "The Brachiosaur Parade" by Paleo-King on deviantart).
@lifeform106 Thanks!:) But I'll be honest- I got much of the info about Ceratosaurus and Morrison climate from Greg Paul's Princeton Field Guide to Dinosaurs. It's informative, though it underestimates the weight of the largest sauropods and has convulted taxonomy (eg lumping Guanlong into Monolophosaurus) :P
@Ironhide661 ok then hey what about t-rex cause in clash of the dinosaurs and many other dinosaur shows say t-rex can grow 18 feet high when the largest skeleton was 14 feet tall? Do you think t-rex grew 18 feet high? And how tall and long were giganotosaurus, carcodontosaurus, and spinosaurus?
@ Thanks!:) But I'll be honest- I got much of the info about Ceratosaurus and Morrison climate from Greg Paul's Princeton Field Guide to Dinosaurs. It's informative, though it underestimates the weight of the largest sauropods and has convulted taxonomy (eg lumping Guanlong into Monolophosaurus) :P
Thanks!:) But I'll be honest- I got much of the info from Greg Paul's Princeton Field Guide to Dinosaurs. It's informative, though it underestimates the weight of the largest sauropods and has convulted taxonomy (eg lumping Guanlong into Monolophosaurus) :P
@lifeform106 The 7 meter long, 700 kg C. dentisulcatus is bigger than the 6 meter long, 600 kg C. nasicornis. Not sure what made Allosaurus grew larger, but during the Upper Morrison, the climate became wetter, prey such as Camarasaurus and Apatosaurus became larger (with C. lentus being replaced by C. supremus and A. excelsus and A. louisae replaced by A. ajax), so that may have caused Allosaurus to become bigger.
@Ironhide661 wow!!!!! Dude you are the bomb of info on dinosaurs. You know what sense you are really cool and i have got more info from you more then any of my friends you are now in my list on my channel for the most awesome youtubers:)
@lifeform106 Ceratosaurus nasicornis coexisted with normal Allosaurus while C. dentisulcatus coexisted with giant Allosaurus. Well, while Torvosaurus is stronger than normal Allosaurus, in Morrison biostratigraphy, torvosaurs took the top predator niche in the lower and middle part of the formation before being replaced by giant Allosaurs in the upper part of the formation. This indicates to me that Allosaurus managed to grow larger and gradually dethroned the torvosaurs.
@Ironhide661 is there any different between Ceratosaurus nasicornis and C. dentisulcatus like size or how they look? And what made allosaurus grow bigger when torvasaurs own him a lot
@lifeform106 Walking with Dinosaurs made tons of errors. Not as bad as that abomination called Clash of the Dinosaurs though. Planet Dinosaur made the error by putting the Saurophaganax alongside the normal Allosaurus when thhe normal Allosaurs lived earlier than Sauro. ;) Ceratosaurus was present at the Upper Morrison, but they were C. dentisulcatus, not C. nasicornis.
@Ironhide661 so ceratosaurus lived with the giant allosaurus? and how did torvasaurs become extinct cause in dinosaur revolution torvasaurus owned allosaurus like crazy! And how would torvasaurus become extinct when there is nothing to make it become extinct
@lifeform106 No, they are a different species, that's all. ;) The normal Allosaurus were the ancestors to the giant Allosaurus that appeared a bit later.;)
@lifeform106 Can't put the URL, YouTube is retarded enough to block it (so far, YouTube is the LEAST user-friendly website when it comes to comments >.<). Try Google "Paleo-King deviantart". Giant Allosaurus (12 meter long ones) includes Allosaurus amplexus (and maybe Saurophaganax), and are limited to the Upper Morrison. Normal Allosaurus (9 meter long ones), which are A. atrox and A. fragilis, lived before those giant forms and lived in the Lower to Middle Morrison.
@Ironhide661 wait i am still confused! In planet dinosaur they showed a normal size allosaurus living with Saurophaganax. and jurassic fight club and when dinosaurs raomed america they showed a giant allosaurus with ceratosaurus and fight ceratosaurus a lot. And walking with dinosaurs said every allosaurus grew lengths of 40 feet long
@lifeform106 Paleo-King has a website in deviantart.;). Allosaurus coexisted alongside Ceratosaurus and Torvosaurus in the Lower to Mid Morrison. Saurophaganax and the giant Allosaurus amplexus lived in the Upper Morrison. At the same time, Torvosaurus seems to have vanished. IMO this means that giant allosaurs wiped out torvosaurs.;)
@Ironhide661well where can i contact him or see a site he has?And i have a question did ceratosaurus, allosaurus, torvasaurus, saurathux live together? Cause on dinosaur revolution they showed torvasaurus and allosaurus live together, and on planet dinosaur they showed allosaurus and saurathx live together, and on jurassic fight club and when dinosaurs roamed america showed allosaurus living with ceratosaurus! So which ones live with allosaurus or do all of them live with allosaurus
@lifeform106 No, the body design of Sauroposeidon (or most other brachiosaurs) are designed to allow the animal for maximum reach on the treetops. The design of the neck, not the body design, is what allowed it to have a vertical neck.;)
@lifeform106 No, but most do have a vertical neck. Shorter-necked sauropods such as Saltasaurus probably had a more horizontal neck, but still their necks aren't stiff-as-a-rail as how Kent Stevens and Roger Seymour argue (Darren Naish and Matt Wedel already confirmed that sauropod neck CAN be held vertically). ;)
@lifeform106 Planet Dinosaur made the necks of Paralititan and Argentinosaurus too horizontal for most of the time, in actual life the necks should be vertical most of the time. (at least the necks werent depicted stiff-as-rail as depicted in WWD) Dinosaur Revolution avoided this error, but IIRC, the Lusotitans in DR appear to have a deep nuchal muscle on the back of their necks, which I disagree (IMO an S-curve neck makes more sense)
@lifeform106 You're right about the fact that most TV shows screwed up the theropod arm posture. March of the Dinosaurs and Dinosaur Revolution managed to 100% avoid this error. Planet Dinosaur avoided this error most of the time, though in some shots the Spinosaurus and the Epidendrix did the errornous "bunny arms" posture (to be fair it could be just an animation problem)
@Ironhide661 well great! And you said earlier that planet dinosaur got the neck wrong on the sauropods? What did you mean by that and if so what show did get the necks of sauropods right
@lifeform106 Based on phylogeny, I would say that T. rex may have been feathered, though IMO it would be limited to certain body parts (eg. the animal's back and/or arms). Mummified hadrosaurs had been found (including Edmontosaurus) and none of them had preserved feathers. (for now at least) ;). The winters were probebly as cold as depicted as in March of the Dinos, and edmontosaurs could have migrated, but probably only a few hundred miles since most dinosaur genera are pretty localized. ;)
@Ironhide661 actually if you listen to march of the dinosaurs the edmontosaurus do have a way to migrate very far! They follow the sun to reach the area they want to go to:) And also i heard latly that the hands on the theropods in most shows are incorrect cause they make the hands facing forward when in real life the hands faced each other! Many shows made the error and is there a show that got the hands right on the theropods
@lifeform106 You may be right about the Edmontosaurus. While there are no feathers found on later tyrannosaurs, Dilong had been preserved with protofeathers. And whales and seals are lousy analogues for tyrannosaurs, in fact even whales and seals had hair! ;) (just google it and you'll understand)
@Ironhide661 so were t-rex feathered? and what parts had feathers? Or did just early tyrannosaurs had feathers? And i know how seals and whales have hair but not a coat to keep them warm and many animals use there blubber for keeping warm so maybe edmontosaurus could too for keeping warm? And also was it really that cold in winter in the article like in march of the dinosaurs like did it really snow like that and did edmontosaurus migrate like in march of the dinosaurs
@lifeform106 Most Troodons hunted small prey, but the Alaskan Troodons could hunt larger prey such as juvenile edmontosaurs (but NOT the adults ;) ). The plumage of the Gorgo in Maech of the Dinos may be correct, but needs more color pattern. Not sure how Edmontosaurus travelled in blizzards, but there are sauropods in Early Cretaceous China (during that time, China had harsh winters) ;)
@Ironhide661 ok but when you said display feathers on tyrannosaurs? Where are the display feathers? And this may sound pretty stupid theory but you know how animals like whales and seals have no feathers or hair to keep them warm in the cold when there on the cold beach and they use blubber. Do you think edmontosaurus and the plant eaters fat up in the summer and fall to get fat to protect them self from the cold? It may sound stupid but do think that could be the answer
@lifeform106 The Alaskan Troodon teeth indicates that they are more carnivorous than their southern counterparts and that they are twice the size. Tyrannosaurs probably had feathers for display. As for the edmontosaurs... You got me there :P
@Ironhide661 so march of the dinosaurs had the feathers on gorgosaurus incorrect? And if they are wrong then is there a link to a correct pic of a feathered tyrannosaur? So you don't know how edmontosaurus traveled in blizzards? And you still did not ansewer the other question did troodon hunt baby edmontosaurus like in planet dinosaur or did they hunt small mammals like in march of the dinosaurs or did they do both?
@lifeform106 March of the Dinos is good, but the dinos were too dull in color and lacked color patterns. :P Plus, tyrannosaurids were absent from Alaska at the time. Thats why the troodons over there grew twice the size as their southern counterparts (as Planet Dino rightly pointed out).
@Ironhide661 i confused really cause you said small raptors like dromaosaurus and troodon hunted small prey but in planet dinosaur they hunted baby edmontosaurus and in march of the dinosaurs they said troodon only hunted small mammals? So i am really confused! And i am wondering but how did edmontosaurus keep warm in blizzards! They showed that in march of the dinosaurs and i did not get it. And i still don't know why tyrannosaurs needed feathers
5) March of the Dinos 4) WWD 3) Planet Dinosaur 5) The Truth About Killer Dinos and 1) PaleoWorld before they replaced Ben Gazzara as narrator (as I said once, my fav paleo-program is Dino Rev, but I left it out in my list since it wasnt supposed to be a documentary)
@lifeform106 March of the Dinos is now my no. 5 fav docu. ;) And I watched When Dinos Roamed America. Great show, but the graphics weren't great though. :P
@lifeform106 ok i'm in this converse so mine are planet dinosaur, dino revoloution, walking with all three all these because they are the most informative and iusually get all my info from books and stuff and those doc. actully had me lern somthing eccept dino revoloution i already knew all the stuff in there.....
@Ironhide661 alright i see that but have you seen when dinosaurs roamed america? And since i showed you march of the dinosaurs what are your top 5 best dinosaurs documentaries now?
@lifeform106 Not sure about ornithomimusaurs andctyrannosaurs but they could have them for either insulation and/or display. Raptors, troodonts and oviraptorids had them for insulation, display and for some of the smaller raptors, flight. ;)
@Ironhide661 hey i wondering but the dinnosaurs you said earlier feathers like tyrannosaurus, ovaraptors, raptors, and orthimusus? Can you tell me why each dinosaur needs feathers?
@lifeform106 Did you mean Gojirasaurus? ;) I dunno the answer to be honest, maybe Gojirasaurus would win, but Postosuchus has powerful jaws and armor.....
@lifeform106 IIRC, Ornithosuchus is from the Carnian epoch while Lilliensternus and Plateosaurus are from the Norian epoch, so I'm leaning towards no.;) Though to be frank, I'm not to great when it comes to Triassic critters.;)
@lifeform106 BTW I forgot to mention another error in Clash of the Dinos- They claim that Sauroposeidon had stomach acid strong enough to dissolve iron. Total AND unnecessary bullshit: Acid doesnt even digest the food! It weakens the chemical structure of the plants and provides an environment where digestive juices digest the plants, and its bacteria in the cecae of the intestines that digest the cellulose into manageable compounds.
@Ironhide661 wow that is one bad error! Oh i have a question did ornithosuchus hunt plateosaurus and if it did would ornithosuchus fight with the dinosaur lilliensternus over carcasses
@lifeform106 Planet Dinosaur, for all it's faults, did a good job when it comes to presenting the facts. Not as good as PaleoWorld did, but still satisfying (if you don't count that Sinornithosaurus venom hypothesis! Though the book version did point out it's flaws :D) However, (unsurprisingly) the book version explained the fact even more in detail than the series did.;)
@lifeform106 No to both. Horner already confessed that T. rex is a pradator in a recent paper, and Triceratops definitely used their horns for defense (their head is bowed down a bit, just check out Greg Paul's and Scott Hartman's skeletals for more info). Kosmoceratops on the other hand, had horns that are too weak for anything but display, and probably ran as soon as it smelled predators.;)
@Ironhide661 yea i agree too but back on clash of the dinosaurs what do you think is the weirdest incorrect fact they made there. Like you would never understand how they got it wrong
@Ironhide661 oh and also earlier you said all the bad stuff about planet dinosaur but it was in your top 5 list for best dinosaur documentaries? Is there anything you like about planet dinosaur that they finale showed correct?
@lifeform106 While I'm just ok with Horner, I strongly disagree with his lumping of Toro into Trike and Draco and Stygi into Pachy. Torosaurus had too many morphologies to be different from Trike (Trike has 17 frill spikes while Toro has 30+ of them, and for more info on the subject check out the When Pigs Fly Returns blog post titled "Torosaurus latus is not Triceratops sp.) And Planet Dinosaur did correctly pronounce Carcharo ;)
While I'm just ok with Horner, I strongly disagree with his lumping of Toro into Trike and Draco and Stygi into Pachy. Torosaurus had too many morphologies to be different from Trike (Trike has 17 frill spikes while Toro has 30+ of them, and for more info on the subject check out the When Pigs Fly Returns blog post titled "Torosaurus latus is not Triceratops sp.) And Planet Dinosaur did correctly pronounce Carcharo ;)
@Ironhide661 do you be believe horner's theory of t-rex being a scavenger? And do you believe his theory triceratops did not use there horns for fighting but for show? Like have you seen dinosaurs decoded about all this?
@lifeform106 Jack Horner and John Scanella considers Torosaurus to be a mature Triceratops while Horner and Mark Goodwin consider Dracorex and Stygimoloch to be juvenile Pachycephalosaurus. ;)
@Ironhide661 do you believe that theroy? do you even like jack horner? And what do you think of dinosaur Geroge? And one more did planet dinosaur say Carcharodontosaurus name right?
@lifeform106 There are still many dinosaur genera at the end of the Mesozoic, if that's what you mean.;) As well as T. rex, Triceratops, etc, you've got Puertasaurus from South America (see Paleo-King's updated reconstruction on Deviantart, Isisaurus from India and a hell lot of genera. BTW I consider Torosaurus, Stygimoloch and Dracorex valid, rather than ontogenical stages of Trike and Pachy.B)
@Ironhide661 wait what did you man by I consider Torosaurus, Stygimoloch and Dracorex valid, rather than ontogenical stages of Trike and Pachy.B) cause that made no sense
@lifeform106 I agree that Spinonosaurus might take on a Carcharodontosaurus over a carcass. However, IMO Carcharodontosaurus is more likely to win because it is much stronger (Spinosaurus hunted large fish and small crocs while Carcharo hunted sauropods!)
@Ironhide661 oh i am really confused about this but were there very few dinosaurs left at the end of age of dinosaurs or were there a lot and were dinosaurs reptiles at all?
@lifeform106 Honestly I'm not sure about that, since Gojirasaurus isn't known from good remains, and I'm not that good at Triassic dinos
Ironhide661 12 hours ago
@lifeform106 According to Wikipedia, the Jurassic Park T. Rex roar is a baby elephant mixed with a tiger and an alligator. ;)
Ironhide661 2 days ago
@Ironhide661 wow!!!! and are you sure that the best gojirasaurus pic is the one on wiki cause it looks a lot like a celophis :/
lifeform106 1 day ago
@lifeform106 Yeah, that was some of the better thing from that show.;)
Ironhide661 3 days ago
@Ironhide661 hey do you know what modern animal roar did they use for the t-rex roar in jurassic park?
lifeform106 2 days ago
@lifeform106 Yeah, but their Alamosaurus model in Last Day of the Dinosaurs is the same model as the Sauroposeidon from Clash of the Dinosaurs, and their Quetzalcoatlus still lacks pycnofibres....... Still it's a good watch
Ironhide661 4 days ago
@Ironhide661 well it is the same Quetzalcoatlus model as in clash of the dinosaurs so they can't fix that and did you enjoy how the extinction was! I mean how great the CGI was in the extinction and they made you feel so bad for the dinosaurs
lifeform106 3 days ago
@lifeform106 I don't mind the skin texture on the males... I mind the fact that they lacked feathers :P Last Day of the Dinosaurs was better than Clash of the Dinosaurs, but it's still ridden with some errors....;)
Ironhide661 4 days ago
@Ironhide661 have you notice they did not make chronosaurus use sound for a defense like in clash of the dinosaurs, they did not make the raptors use there claws for slashing, and t-rex was not a slow lumbering animal life in clash of the dinosaurs, and more! I really enjoyed last day of the dinosaurs cause the way the extinction was is awesome and it maybe the best dinosaur extinction documentary ever!
lifeform106 4 days ago
@Ironhide661 hey do you think the skin texture on the male t-rexs in DR is bad? Cause they have white heads! Do you think that is stupid cause how are they going to sneak up on prey!
lifeform106 6 days ago
@lifeform106 I disagree. In many modern species of bird the males sacrifice camouflage with their environment for sexual display. Think of peafowl, pheasants, ducks, turkeys, chickens and geese as examples. All exhibit dramatic sexual dimorphism. Dimorphism in these animals (in which the males are more visually striking) are necessary for both attracting mates and distracting predators from the mates and nests which they must protect. ;)
Ironhide661 5 days ago
@Ironhide661 well my friends hate the skin texture on the males like crazy! And have you notice that last day of the dinosaurs fixed many of the errors they made in clash of the dinosaur ;)
lifeform106 4 days ago
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lifeform106 6 days ago
@lifeform106 Feathers would have been just as useful for keeping a large animal such as Tyrannosaurus cool in the direct heat of the sun as for helping it retain warmth in the cold. ;)
Ironhide661 1 week ago
@Ironhide661 but what is so bad about not having them? That is what i am saying cause it would not be very different
lifeform106 1 week ago in playlist Dinosaur Revolution
@lifeform106 The closest living relative of mosasaurs, varanid lizards, do not practice parental care, not to mention like mosasaurs, anacondas give borth to live young, yet anacondas do not practice parental care at all
Ironhide661 1 week ago
@Ironhide661 Hey but are you sure t-rex needs feathers? Cause what is wrong with not having them?
lifeform106 1 week ago
@lifeform106 I honestly don't find that the dinosaurs act in DR stupid, most other shows depict them to behave like monsters. Now that is what I call stupid behavior.;)
Ironhide661 1 week ago
@lifeform106 It depends.;) Usually I'm OK with those because IMO it's either funny (like the 2 stupid Guanlongs and the relationship between the Ornitholestes and the Rhamphorynchus) or fits with the story (like the "truce" between the Allosaurus and the Dinheirosaurus). However, the mosasaur parental care in Episode 1 is unacceptable IMO :P
Ironhide661 1 week ago
@Ironhide661 What is wrong with the mosasaur thing in episode 1?
lifeform106 1 week ago
Anyone know what happened to this series, seems like discovery got rid of it somehow. I do remember seeing the one episode with the broken jawed allosaurus(may or may not have been the dinosaur) and ever since I've been trying to find Dinosaur revolution stuff and cant find a single thing.
902100101 1 week ago
@lifeform106 Nice episode guide! :D Brilliant idea.;)
Ironhide661 1 week ago
@Ironhide661 Hey but do you ever find the way the dinosaurs act in DR stupid? like come on is it annoying they act human like
lifeform106 1 week ago
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@lifeform106 Nice episode list!:) Very good.;)
Ironhide661 1 week ago
@lifeform106 Nice episode list!:) Very good.;)
Ironhide661 1 week ago
@lifeform106 I'm 17, and there are quite several things that weren't discussed in paleo-documentaries, including the fact that the colors of Anchiornis and Sinosauropteryx were now known, the recent giant Alamosaurus remains were found, and so many more. Both Prehostoric Park and Jurassic Park got the orbital horns of the T. rex wrong, they got pronated hands, and lacked feathers in BOTH the juveniles and the adults.
Ironhide661 1 week ago
@Ironhide661 does this soud like a good episode list?
Episode 1: rise of the jurassic! Where they talk about how dinosaurs became bigger and became larger into titans in the late jurassic.
Episode 2: Killer theropods. Where they talk about new badder theropods, with more weapons like tyrannotian, new raptors(how raptors look in life with feathers and how they really hunt), talk about feathered tyrannosaurs locked in a combact with horn dinosaurs from the start and so much more.
lifeform106 1 week ago
@Ironhide661 Episode 2: New reigns. Where we talk about new places where dinosaurs were never thought to live or never new they did. Like North Africa, South America, the north and south pole, and Europe. And show the strangest dinosaur living there too.
Episode 4: Clash of the titans! Where they talk about dinosaur battles. And how they went in real life and showed new battles never showed before. And explain how many battles we new thought happen are wrong over the years
lifeform106 1 week ago
@Ironhide661 oh by the way for new reigns i said episode 2 again lol new reigns is episode 3 by the way.
Episode 5: Fiction and Relate. Where they talk about how dinosaurs change over the years
lifeform106 1 week ago
The show looks good.But the music is bad.Thats Everything.
aikevanderklok 1 week ago
@lifeform106 Depends on what you want. ;) Just keep in mind that if you're making a story about the Hell Creek fauna (with T. rex, Triceratops etc.), I suggest you not to end the story with the mass extinction (though you could make a brief mention about it), as it's already overdone (the Hell Creek stories of WWD, When Dinos Roamed America, Prehistoric Park and Dinosaur Revolution ALL ended with that boring old extinction :P)
Ironhide661 1 week ago
@Ironhide661 well what new stuff is there out there on dinosaurs no documentary has talk about yet? And i really want to know what s wrong with the prehisotoric park t-rex and jurassic fight club t-rex? Like on the model not what it is compared too. and also how old are you?
lifeform106 1 week ago
@lifeform106 Truth About Killer Dinos is around at No.2 ;) Not sure about Gojirasaurus, I'm not too good about Triassic dinos, so maybe the Gojirasaurus pic in Wikipedia is probably the best one. BTW if you're gonna make a Hell Creek story, I would recommend you to have the story NOT ending with the K-T extinction, as that is wayyy overdone.;)
Ironhide661 1 week ago
@Ironhide661 Oh! Then what should the last episode be about?
lifeform106 1 week ago
@lifeform106 The Sinraptor in Dinosaur Revolution is most likely Sinraptor hepingensis instead of Sinraptor dongi.;) About the differences Saurophaganax and Allosaurus amplexus: I honestly dont know, as their remains are uncommon
Ironhide661 2 weeks ago
@Ironhide661 Hey and one more thing, what is the best picture of gojirasaurus? Like the most correct looking gojirasaurus model in a picture?
lifeform106 1 week ago
@Ironhide661 And also about your list of best dinosaur documentaries you also left out the truth about killer dinosaurs. What place is it in?
lifeform106 1 week ago
@lifeform106 Sinraptor dongi did coexist with Guanlong and Yinlong. Can't find any of the info about the stegosaurs that coexist with them, but here are the sauropods that did coexist with them: the gigantic mamenchisaur Mamenchisaurus sinocanadorum, Bellusaurus (which is only known from juvenile remains), Klamelisaurus and Tienshanosaurus
Ironhide661 2 weeks ago
@Ironhide661 wait but in dinosaur revolution they showed singraptor live with shunosaurus?And Saurophaganax what proof is there that make giant allosaurus and Saurophaganax seperate?
lifeform106 2 weeks ago
@lifeform106 Saurophaganax and Allosaurus amplexus are probably the same size. As both animals are known from poor remains, I honestly cant tell you the differences about the 2 animals, though Saurophaganax could be the same animals as the giant Allosaurus. (the most recent research suggest that they are seperate though)
Ironhide661 2 weeks ago
@lifeform106 Not bad Saurophaganax which lived a bit later than the normal Allosaurus, unless you meant the giant Allosaurus.;) Guanlong and Yinlong lived a bit later than Shunosaurus and Huayangosaurus if I remember correctly, though I must admit that my knoweledge about Chinese dinosaurs isn't as good as the North American ones.;) Keep up the good work!
Ironhide661 2 weeks ago
@Ironhide661 yes i did met giant allosaurus and was Saurophaganax and giant allosaurus the same size? And what are the differences between the two? And what sauropod and stegosaur live with gaulong and yinlong? And did sinraptor live with gaulong and yinlong?
lifeform106 2 weeks ago
@lifeform106 Yes, just please remind me about it when it's done. ;)
Ironhide661 2 weeks ago
lifeform106 2 weeks ago
@lifeform106 what show are you, talking about, and why do you say these dinosaurs' name?
DinosaurApe 2 weeks ago
@DinosaurApe dude why did you just jump into something else that is none of your business?
lifeform106 2 weeks ago
@lifeform106 I know is not my business, but it sound like your talk about a documentary, I dont know? I only want hear about the documentary, and so I jump out again ;)
DinosaurApe 2 weeks ago
@DinosaurApe ok what i mean by a documentary is that i am making a claymation documentary i making! It is the biggest hit that will air on my channel. I am working on the clay models for the show they i would film it and edit it in summer vacation. But there would be no trailer to be uploaded cause it is a series and i can't film all the episodes
lifeform106 2 weeks ago
@lifeform106 ok, now I leave you alone :)
DinosaurApe 2 weeks ago
@lifeform106 keep up the good work ;)
DinosaurApe 2 weeks ago
@lifeform106 Sounds cool. :) Good luck! :3
Ironhide661 2 weeks ago
@Ironhide661 would you see it when i am done?
lifeform106 2 weeks ago
@lifeform106 About your claymation dino doc: Sounds like a good idea.:) Thing is, there will be bound to have incorrect facts in any dino doc since newer discoveries have a tendency to overturn previously established facts.;)
Ironhide661 2 weeks ago
@Ironhide661 no i am getting my info from real places for facts and there are going to be 8 episodes and the show is going to be called "The New World of Dinosaurs". The first episode that i am working on is called "rise of the jurassic" and would show how dinosaurs became titans. Like it would first show the late trassic in Mexico then go to the mid jurassic in china and then go to the late jurassic in Oklahoma
lifeform106 2 weeks ago
@lifeform106 Tyrannosaurids could have used feathers for display. Feathers would have been just as useful for keeping a large animal cool in the direct heat of the sun as for helping it retain warmth in the cold. Recent studies indicating that tyrannosaurs were endothermic heterotherms would have made this strategy even more advantageous.
Ironhide661 2 weeks ago
@lifeform106 Large tyrannosaurids not only had a lower metabolism but also a much greater surface area and air sacs, unlike big mammals like elephants and rhinos that are terrible at losing heat because they are built like big solid blocks. (Also, elephants had semi-aquatic ancestors, and large semi-aquatic mammals tend to reduce their hair either way)
Ironhide661 2 weeks ago
@Ironhide661 so how does that explains how? But why would they need it! And you inspired me to make my claymation dinosaur documentary with no incorrect facts. What do you think of the idea?
lifeform106 2 weeks ago
@lifeform106 I liked the When Dinos Roamed America Rex model, though the animation sucked...:P Truth About Killer Dinos Rex is OK, and Jurassic Fight Club Rex looks more like Jurassic Park Rex than the actual animal.:P
Ironhide661 2 weeks ago
@lifeform106 Not sure whether I can list the top 5 faves and worst ones, but my fav T. rex models are from Dinosaur Revolution since they are based on the actual skeletons (the adults still need feathers though....:P). Prehistoric Park comes in 2nd fave. Worst Rex models are from WWD, Jurassic Fight Club (just a JP Rex rip-off), Valley of the T. rex and Clash of the Dinosaurs
Ironhide661 2 weeks ago
@Ironhide661 i still don't know why you think t-rex needs feathers? Cause t-rex ancestries did but they were very small and need warm. Can you explain why they need feathers on there back and tail?
lifeform106 2 weeks ago
@Ironhide661 And what about When Dinosaurs Roamed America t-rex or the truth about killer dinosaurs t-rex? When Dinosaurs Roamed America t-rex look like it was based off the skeleton cause they one time did a x-rey of the t-rex model and then showed a actual t-rex skeleton that match the model perfectly. And what is wrong with jurassic fight club t-rex?
lifeform106 2 weeks ago
@lifeform106 5) Prehistoric Park 4) March of the Dinosaurs 3) When Dinos Roamed America and Dinosaur Planet 2) Planet Dinosaur and Paleo-World 1) Dinosaur Revolution (minus the mosasaur segment, which was bad and unessacary)
Ironhide661 3 weeks ago
@Ironhide661 hey also what are your top 5 favorite t-rex models from dinosaur documentaries? And your top 5 worst?
lifeform106 2 weeks ago
@lifeform106 Oh yeah I almost forgot about that LOL.:) Well, Prehistoric Park forgot to put feathers on the troodonts and Ornithomimus, their T. rex looks too much like Albertosaurus, and had many errors, but I suppose the awesome music made up for it. :D
Ironhide661 3 weeks ago
@Ironhide661 well the t-rex model in prehistoric park was way better then the t-rex model in wwd. so know that you saw when dinosaur roamed America, march of the dinosaurs and we put DR In the list. What is your top 5 best dinosaur documentaries?
lifeform106 3 weeks ago
@lifeform106 Good point. Besides I also disagree putting quills on ceratopsians. BTW remember that WWD reconstructed Diplodocus with long spines at the back (which also can be seen onDino Rev's Dinheirosaurus and Shunosaurus with them and When Dinos Roamed America's Apatosaurus)? Turns out they might just be large scales with a central peak, which probably did not exceed a couple of inches in height, may not have been midline structures and may not have been visible from a distance.
Ironhide661 3 weeks ago
@Ironhide661 the diplodocus was incorrect in wwd right? And why is prehistoric park not in your list for best dinosaur documentaries cause prehistoric park was so much better then wwd and the dinosaur models were a lot better!
lifeform106 3 weeks ago
@lifeform106 Probably used for display, if they had those quills at all. Quills are found on Psittacosaurus, but it's a far more primitive animal and not the direct ancestor of ceratopsians.
Ironhide661 3 weeks ago
@Ironhide661 why display? They already use there heads for display.
lifeform106 3 weeks ago
@lifeform106 If you mean why dromaeosaurs need feathers, it's for a variety of reasons: flight (for the smaller ones like Microraptor and possibly Rahonavis), display, insulation etc. ;)
Ironhide661 3 weeks ago
@Ironhide661 no i mean the horned dinosaurs like triceratops cause i said before people on youtube said that triceratops and other horned dinosaurs had quills on there bodies is this true and why would horn dinosaurs need quills?
lifeform106 3 weeks ago
@goatmanguy Also, once some dinosaurs evolved feathers and lost them at some parts of the body, like modern birds (eg. Ostrich) the part of the body NEVER regrew dense scales back, leaving just naked skin. Proof of this can be found at the type specimen of Gorgosaurus, as Phil Currie had reported about naked skin being found from it.
Ironhide661 1 month ago
@goatmanguy The fossil evidence disagrees with you, there are plenty of dinosaurs found with protofeathers (Tianyulong, Sinosauropteryx, Dilong paradoxus, Beipiaosaurus etc.) and actual feathers (Sinornithosaurus, Velociraptor (quill knobs of it are present), Microraptor and etc.) Crocs are LOUSY analogues for dinosaur intugement since crocs have a completely different lifestyles compared to dinosaurs.
Ironhide661 1 month ago
i really dought that dinosaurs had feathers, i mean do you ever see crocodiles with feathers? besides the little bumps that they, i guess find on dino skin?, could just easily be their skin we dont know what their skin looked like
goatmanguy 1 month ago
@lifeform106 Too early to say whether it had quills or not. According to some, the "quills knobs" on Triceratops could be just large scales, though it's very hard to say at the moment.
Ironhide661 1 month ago
@Ironhide661 why would they need quills?
lifeform106 3 weeks ago
@lifeform106 That's a common error; allosaurids and spinosaurids actually have proportionally shorter legs than tyrannosaurids (thats why among all the giant theropods, tyrannosaurids are the best suited for running). As I said earlier, check out the picture "Biggest, Baddest REVISED" on deviantart by Kronosaurus82 for more info ;)
Ironhide661 1 month ago
@Ironhide661 hey do you think tricertops had quills? Cause many people have been saying that lately. And could you say why it would need them
lifeform106 1 month ago
@lifeform106 Spinosaurus was probably 10.6 feet tall at the hips, and Giga (and possibly Carcharo too) is probably 11.5 feet tall at the hips. Spinosaurus is taller than T. rex only because of it's sail, without the sail Spino is shorter. This is because spinosaurids had proportionally shorter legs.;)
Ironhide661 1 month ago
@Ironhide661 are you sure cause i seen some people make spinosaurus stand 14 feet high and it's sail made it 20 feet tall! And most shows like planet dinosaur made carcodontosaurus stand the same height as t-rex
lifeform106 1 month ago
@lifeform106 Giganotosaurus is probably 3.5 meters tall at the hips. Not sure about Carcharodontosaurus, but I guess it was roughly around that height, and Spinosaurus was probably 3.25 meters tall at the hips (minus the sail). Check out the drawing "Biggest, Baddest REVISED" by Kronosaurus82 at deviantart (though Carcharo is absent from the scale). The funny thing is while Giga, Carcharo and Spino were LONGER and HEAVIER then T. rex, they were SHORTER than T. rex in height! o.O
Ironhide661 1 month ago
@Ironhide661 sorry dude can you say them in feet rather then meters lol i know meters but i don't understand the kind you are talking about
lifeform106 1 month ago
@Ironhide661 and are you sure there shorter then t-rex cause spinosaurus i seen was taller then t-rex by it's sail
lifeform106 1 month ago
@lifeform106 Sue the T. rex was 14 feet (4 meters) tall at the hips, at head height it was taller.;) The largest T. rex was 17 feet (5.2 meters) tall at head height (check out the drawing "The Brachiosaur Parade" by Paleo-King on deviantart).
Ironhide661 1 month ago
@lifeform106 Thanks!:) But I'll be honest- I got much of the info about Ceratosaurus and Morrison climate from Greg Paul's Princeton Field Guide to Dinosaurs. It's informative, though it underestimates the weight of the largest sauropods and has convulted taxonomy (eg lumping Guanlong into Monolophosaurus) :P
Ironhide661 1 month ago
@Ironhide661 ok then hey what about t-rex cause in clash of the dinosaurs and many other dinosaur shows say t-rex can grow 18 feet high when the largest skeleton was 14 feet tall? Do you think t-rex grew 18 feet high? And how tall and long were giganotosaurus, carcodontosaurus, and spinosaurus?
lifeform106 1 month ago
@ Thanks!:) But I'll be honest- I got much of the info about Ceratosaurus and Morrison climate from Greg Paul's Princeton Field Guide to Dinosaurs. It's informative, though it underestimates the weight of the largest sauropods and has convulted taxonomy (eg lumping Guanlong into Monolophosaurus) :P
Ironhide661 1 month ago
Thanks!:) But I'll be honest- I got much of the info from Greg Paul's Princeton Field Guide to Dinosaurs. It's informative, though it underestimates the weight of the largest sauropods and has convulted taxonomy (eg lumping Guanlong into Monolophosaurus) :P
Ironhide661 1 month ago
@lifeform106 The 7 meter long, 700 kg C. dentisulcatus is bigger than the 6 meter long, 600 kg C. nasicornis. Not sure what made Allosaurus grew larger, but during the Upper Morrison, the climate became wetter, prey such as Camarasaurus and Apatosaurus became larger (with C. lentus being replaced by C. supremus and A. excelsus and A. louisae replaced by A. ajax), so that may have caused Allosaurus to become bigger.
Ironhide661 1 month ago
@Ironhide661 wow!!!!! Dude you are the bomb of info on dinosaurs. You know what sense you are really cool and i have got more info from you more then any of my friends you are now in my list on my channel for the most awesome youtubers:)
lifeform106 1 month ago
@lifeform106 Ceratosaurus nasicornis coexisted with normal Allosaurus while C. dentisulcatus coexisted with giant Allosaurus. Well, while Torvosaurus is stronger than normal Allosaurus, in Morrison biostratigraphy, torvosaurs took the top predator niche in the lower and middle part of the formation before being replaced by giant Allosaurs in the upper part of the formation. This indicates to me that Allosaurus managed to grow larger and gradually dethroned the torvosaurs.
Ironhide661 1 month ago
@Ironhide661 is there any different between Ceratosaurus nasicornis and C. dentisulcatus like size or how they look? And what made allosaurus grow bigger when torvasaurs own him a lot
lifeform106 1 month ago
@lifeform106 Walking with Dinosaurs made tons of errors. Not as bad as that abomination called Clash of the Dinosaurs though. Planet Dinosaur made the error by putting the Saurophaganax alongside the normal Allosaurus when thhe normal Allosaurs lived earlier than Sauro. ;) Ceratosaurus was present at the Upper Morrison, but they were C. dentisulcatus, not C. nasicornis.
Ironhide661 1 month ago
@Ironhide661 so ceratosaurus lived with the giant allosaurus? and how did torvasaurs become extinct cause in dinosaur revolution torvasaurus owned allosaurus like crazy! And how would torvasaurus become extinct when there is nothing to make it become extinct
lifeform106 1 month ago
@lifeform106 No, they are a different species, that's all. ;) The normal Allosaurus were the ancestors to the giant Allosaurus that appeared a bit later.;)
Ironhide661 1 month ago
MORE MORE I WANT MORE
GarretTheHedeghog 1 month ago
@lifeform106 Can't put the URL, YouTube is retarded enough to block it (so far, YouTube is the LEAST user-friendly website when it comes to comments >.<). Try Google "Paleo-King deviantart". Giant Allosaurus (12 meter long ones) includes Allosaurus amplexus (and maybe Saurophaganax), and are limited to the Upper Morrison. Normal Allosaurus (9 meter long ones), which are A. atrox and A. fragilis, lived before those giant forms and lived in the Lower to Middle Morrison.
Ironhide661 1 month ago
@Ironhide661 wait i am still confused! In planet dinosaur they showed a normal size allosaurus living with Saurophaganax. and jurassic fight club and when dinosaurs raomed america they showed a giant allosaurus with ceratosaurus and fight ceratosaurus a lot. And walking with dinosaurs said every allosaurus grew lengths of 40 feet long
lifeform106 1 month ago
@Ironhide661 and all normal allosaurus were juveniles?
lifeform106 1 month ago
@lifeform106 Paleo-King has a website in deviantart.;). Allosaurus coexisted alongside Ceratosaurus and Torvosaurus in the Lower to Mid Morrison. Saurophaganax and the giant Allosaurus amplexus lived in the Upper Morrison. At the same time, Torvosaurus seems to have vanished. IMO this means that giant allosaurs wiped out torvosaurs.;)
Ironhide661 1 month ago
@Ironhide661 what giant allosaurus or normal allosaurus? And can you tell me the URL code for the website
lifeform106 1 month ago
@lifeform106 AFAIK is an acronym of "As Far As I Know" ;)
Ironhide661 1 month ago
@Ironhide661well where can i contact him or see a site he has?And i have a question did ceratosaurus, allosaurus, torvasaurus, saurathux live together? Cause on dinosaur revolution they showed torvasaurus and allosaurus live together, and on planet dinosaur they showed allosaurus and saurathx live together, and on jurassic fight club and when dinosaurs roamed america showed allosaurus living with ceratosaurus! So which ones live with allosaurus or do all of them live with allosaurus
lifeform106 1 month ago
@lifeform106 Sadly, AFAIK, he doesn't have a Youtube account. :(
Ironhide661 1 month ago
@Ironhide661 What is AFAIK? Is it a website?
lifeform106 1 month ago
@lifeform106 Guess so, however you can just ask Paleo-King from deviantart if you want to know more, he knows a lot about sauropods. ;)
Ironhide661 1 month ago
@Ironhide661 who is he? And does he have a youtube that he replies to a lot
lifeform106 1 month ago
@Ufollowme2 Yes we have, birds are dinosaurs after all! XD
Ironhide661 1 month ago
"Dinosaurs like we've never seen them before"?? I don't think anyone has ever seen them before.
Ufollowme2 1 month ago
@lifeform106 No, the body design of Sauroposeidon (or most other brachiosaurs) are designed to allow the animal for maximum reach on the treetops. The design of the neck, not the body design, is what allowed it to have a vertical neck.;)
Ironhide661 1 month ago
@Ironhide661 are you sure cause i know titanosaurs could have that design but the brachinosaurs and dicplodocus i can't picture at all
lifeform106 1 month ago
@lifeform106 No, but most do have a vertical neck. Shorter-necked sauropods such as Saltasaurus probably had a more horizontal neck, but still their necks aren't stiff-as-a-rail as how Kent Stevens and Roger Seymour argue (Darren Naish and Matt Wedel already confirmed that sauropod neck CAN be held vertically). ;)
Ironhide661 1 month ago
@Ironhide661 wait i don't get it sauropiden body shape looks made to keep it's neck straight up like in clash of the dinosaurs
lifeform106 1 month ago
@lifeform106 Planet Dinosaur made the necks of Paralititan and Argentinosaurus too horizontal for most of the time, in actual life the necks should be vertical most of the time. (at least the necks werent depicted stiff-as-rail as depicted in WWD) Dinosaur Revolution avoided this error, but IIRC, the Lusotitans in DR appear to have a deep nuchal muscle on the back of their necks, which I disagree (IMO an S-curve neck makes more sense)
Ironhide661 1 month ago
@Ironhide661 so all sauropods had a s shape neck?
lifeform106 1 month ago
@lifeform106 You're right about the fact that most TV shows screwed up the theropod arm posture. March of the Dinosaurs and Dinosaur Revolution managed to 100% avoid this error. Planet Dinosaur avoided this error most of the time, though in some shots the Spinosaurus and the Epidendrix did the errornous "bunny arms" posture (to be fair it could be just an animation problem)
Ironhide661 1 month ago
@Ironhide661 well great! And you said earlier that planet dinosaur got the neck wrong on the sauropods? What did you mean by that and if so what show did get the necks of sauropods right
lifeform106 1 month ago
@lifeform106 Based on phylogeny, I would say that T. rex may have been feathered, though IMO it would be limited to certain body parts (eg. the animal's back and/or arms). Mummified hadrosaurs had been found (including Edmontosaurus) and none of them had preserved feathers. (for now at least) ;). The winters were probebly as cold as depicted as in March of the Dinos, and edmontosaurs could have migrated, but probably only a few hundred miles since most dinosaur genera are pretty localized. ;)
Ironhide661 1 month ago
@Ironhide661 actually if you listen to march of the dinosaurs the edmontosaurus do have a way to migrate very far! They follow the sun to reach the area they want to go to:) And also i heard latly that the hands on the theropods in most shows are incorrect cause they make the hands facing forward when in real life the hands faced each other! Many shows made the error and is there a show that got the hands right on the theropods
lifeform106 1 month ago
@lifeform106 You may be right about the Edmontosaurus. While there are no feathers found on later tyrannosaurs, Dilong had been preserved with protofeathers. And whales and seals are lousy analogues for tyrannosaurs, in fact even whales and seals had hair! ;) (just google it and you'll understand)
Ironhide661 1 month ago
@Ironhide661 so were t-rex feathered? and what parts had feathers? Or did just early tyrannosaurs had feathers? And i know how seals and whales have hair but not a coat to keep them warm and many animals use there blubber for keeping warm so maybe edmontosaurus could too for keeping warm? And also was it really that cold in winter in the article like in march of the dinosaurs like did it really snow like that and did edmontosaurus migrate like in march of the dinosaurs
lifeform106 1 month ago
@lifeform106 Most Troodons hunted small prey, but the Alaskan Troodons could hunt larger prey such as juvenile edmontosaurs (but NOT the adults ;) ). The plumage of the Gorgo in Maech of the Dinos may be correct, but needs more color pattern. Not sure how Edmontosaurus travelled in blizzards, but there are sauropods in Early Cretaceous China (during that time, China had harsh winters) ;)
Ironhide661 1 month ago
@Ironhide661 ok but when you said display feathers on tyrannosaurs? Where are the display feathers? And this may sound pretty stupid theory but you know how animals like whales and seals have no feathers or hair to keep them warm in the cold when there on the cold beach and they use blubber. Do you think edmontosaurus and the plant eaters fat up in the summer and fall to get fat to protect them self from the cold? It may sound stupid but do think that could be the answer
lifeform106 1 month ago
@lifeform106 The Alaskan Troodon teeth indicates that they are more carnivorous than their southern counterparts and that they are twice the size. Tyrannosaurs probably had feathers for display. As for the edmontosaurs... You got me there :P
Ironhide661 1 month ago
@Ironhide661 so march of the dinosaurs had the feathers on gorgosaurus incorrect? And if they are wrong then is there a link to a correct pic of a feathered tyrannosaur? So you don't know how edmontosaurus traveled in blizzards? And you still did not ansewer the other question did troodon hunt baby edmontosaurus like in planet dinosaur or did they hunt small mammals like in march of the dinosaurs or did they do both?
lifeform106 1 month ago
@lifeform106 March of the Dinos is good, but the dinos were too dull in color and lacked color patterns. :P Plus, tyrannosaurids were absent from Alaska at the time. Thats why the troodons over there grew twice the size as their southern counterparts (as Planet Dino rightly pointed out).
Ironhide661 1 month ago
@Ironhide661 i confused really cause you said small raptors like dromaosaurus and troodon hunted small prey but in planet dinosaur they hunted baby edmontosaurus and in march of the dinosaurs they said troodon only hunted small mammals? So i am really confused! And i am wondering but how did edmontosaurus keep warm in blizzards! They showed that in march of the dinosaurs and i did not get it. And i still don't know why tyrannosaurs needed feathers
lifeform106 1 month ago
5) March of the Dinos 4) WWD 3) Planet Dinosaur 5) The Truth About Killer Dinos and 1) PaleoWorld before they replaced Ben Gazzara as narrator (as I said once, my fav paleo-program is Dino Rev, but I left it out in my list since it wasnt supposed to be a documentary)
Ironhide661 1 month ago
@Ironhide661 why is march of the dinosaurs your 5th! Is there any incorrect facts you saw that i did not notice?
lifeform106 1 month ago
@lifeform106 March of the Dinos is now my no. 5 fav docu. ;) And I watched When Dinos Roamed America. Great show, but the graphics weren't great though. :P
Ironhide661 1 month ago
@Ironhide661 really only 5 cause they show like better info then dinosaur planet? So what are your top 5 in a list
lifeform106 1 month ago
@lifeform106 ok i'm in this converse so mine are planet dinosaur, dino revoloution, walking with all three all these because they are the most informative and iusually get all my info from books and stuff and those doc. actully had me lern somthing eccept dino revoloution i already knew all the stuff in there.....
do501 1 month ago
@lifeform106 For starters, I'm a noob when it comes to recording and uploading vids :P
Ironhide661 1 month ago
@Ironhide661 alright i see that but have you seen when dinosaurs roamed america? And since i showed you march of the dinosaurs what are your top 5 best dinosaurs documentaries now?
lifeform106 1 month ago
@lifeform106 Not sure about ornithomimusaurs andctyrannosaurs but they could have them for either insulation and/or display. Raptors, troodonts and oviraptorids had them for insulation, display and for some of the smaller raptors, flight. ;)
Ironhide661 1 month ago
@Ironhide661 hey if you know all this info why don't you upload it as a video on youtube?
lifeform106 1 month ago
@lifeform106 Im not sure whether these are mispronounciations. Maybe they are, though they could be alternative pronounciations..... ;)
Ironhide661 1 month ago
@Ironhide661 hey i wondering but the dinnosaurs you said earlier feathers like tyrannosaurus, ovaraptors, raptors, and orthimusus? Can you tell me why each dinosaur needs feathers?
lifeform106 1 month ago
@lifeform106 Sinraptor ;)
Ironhide661 1 month ago
@Ironhide661 were there a lot more? cause did they mispronounce troodon as truedon or daspletosaurus as dasplatatosaurs
lifeform106 1 month ago
@lifeform106 Gojirasaurus was estimated to be 5.5 meters long while Postosuchus was 4-5 meters long. And both coexisted with Coelophysis. ;)
Ironhide661 1 month ago
@Ironhide661 hey what dinosaur names in planet dinosaur were mispronounce?
lifeform106 1 month ago
@lifeform106 Did you mean Gojirasaurus? ;) I dunno the answer to be honest, maybe Gojirasaurus would win, but Postosuchus has powerful jaws and armor.....
Ironhide661 2 months ago
@Ironhide661 are they the same size? And did they live at the same time along with colophis(i don't know how to spell the name)
lifeform106 1 month ago
@lifeform106 IIRC, Ornithosuchus is from the Carnian epoch while Lilliensternus and Plateosaurus are from the Norian epoch, so I'm leaning towards no.;) Though to be frank, I'm not to great when it comes to Triassic critters.;)
Ironhide661 2 months ago
@Ironhide661 wait but would goriaosaurus fight postosuchus and who would win?
lifeform106 2 months ago
Lol, what the hey! XD
The dinosaur towards the left of the screen @0:02 looks like it's bearing armor! XD
Lol, *that* and holes for pupils. xD
bitchduty 2 months ago
@lifeform106 BTW I forgot to mention another error in Clash of the Dinos- They claim that Sauroposeidon had stomach acid strong enough to dissolve iron. Total AND unnecessary bullshit: Acid doesnt even digest the food! It weakens the chemical structure of the plants and provides an environment where digestive juices digest the plants, and its bacteria in the cecae of the intestines that digest the cellulose into manageable compounds.
Ironhide661 2 months ago
@Ironhide661 wow that is one bad error! Oh i have a question did ornithosuchus hunt plateosaurus and if it did would ornithosuchus fight with the dinosaur lilliensternus over carcasses
lifeform106 2 months ago
@lifeform106 Planet Dinosaur, for all it's faults, did a good job when it comes to presenting the facts. Not as good as PaleoWorld did, but still satisfying (if you don't count that Sinornithosaurus venom hypothesis! Though the book version did point out it's flaws :D) However, (unsurprisingly) the book version explained the fact even more in detail than the series did.;)
Ironhide661 2 months ago
your talkings has filled up half of the comments.....
PlasmaSwift8 2 months ago
what is the song that plays??
utkarshnigam89 2 months ago
@lifeform106 No to both. Horner already confessed that T. rex is a pradator in a recent paper, and Triceratops definitely used their horns for defense (their head is bowed down a bit, just check out Greg Paul's and Scott Hartman's skeletals for more info). Kosmoceratops on the other hand, had horns that are too weak for anything but display, and probably ran as soon as it smelled predators.;)
Ironhide661 2 months ago
@Ironhide661 yea i agree too but back on clash of the dinosaurs what do you think is the weirdest incorrect fact they made there. Like you would never understand how they got it wrong
lifeform106 2 months ago
@Ironhide661 oh and also earlier you said all the bad stuff about planet dinosaur but it was in your top 5 list for best dinosaur documentaries? Is there anything you like about planet dinosaur that they finale showed correct?
lifeform106 2 months ago
@Ironhide661 like stuff that planet dinosaur showed on dinosaurs that was not showed on any other documentaries
lifeform106 2 months ago
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@lifeform106 While I'm just ok with Horner, I strongly disagree with his lumping of Toro into Trike and Draco and Stygi into Pachy. Torosaurus had too many morphologies to be different from Trike (Trike has 17 frill spikes while Toro has 30+ of them, and for more info on the subject check out the When Pigs Fly Returns blog post titled "Torosaurus latus is not Triceratops sp.) And Planet Dinosaur did correctly pronounce Carcharo ;)
Ironhide661 2 months ago
While I'm just ok with Horner, I strongly disagree with his lumping of Toro into Trike and Draco and Stygi into Pachy. Torosaurus had too many morphologies to be different from Trike (Trike has 17 frill spikes while Toro has 30+ of them, and for more info on the subject check out the When Pigs Fly Returns blog post titled "Torosaurus latus is not Triceratops sp.) And Planet Dinosaur did correctly pronounce Carcharo ;)
Ironhide661 2 months ago
@Ironhide661 do you be believe horner's theory of t-rex being a scavenger? And do you believe his theory triceratops did not use there horns for fighting but for show? Like have you seen dinosaurs decoded about all this?
lifeform106 2 months ago
@lifeform106 Jack Horner and John Scanella considers Torosaurus to be a mature Triceratops while Horner and Mark Goodwin consider Dracorex and Stygimoloch to be juvenile Pachycephalosaurus. ;)
Ironhide661 2 months ago
@Ironhide661 do you believe that theroy? do you even like jack horner? And what do you think of dinosaur Geroge? And one more did planet dinosaur say Carcharodontosaurus name right?
lifeform106 2 months ago
@lifeform106 There are still many dinosaur genera at the end of the Mesozoic, if that's what you mean.;) As well as T. rex, Triceratops, etc, you've got Puertasaurus from South America (see Paleo-King's updated reconstruction on Deviantart, Isisaurus from India and a hell lot of genera. BTW I consider Torosaurus, Stygimoloch and Dracorex valid, rather than ontogenical stages of Trike and Pachy.B)
Ironhide661 2 months ago
@Ironhide661 wait what did you man by I consider Torosaurus, Stygimoloch and Dracorex valid, rather than ontogenical stages of Trike and Pachy.B) cause that made no sense
lifeform106 2 months ago
@lifeform106 I agree that Spinonosaurus might take on a Carcharodontosaurus over a carcass. However, IMO Carcharodontosaurus is more likely to win because it is much stronger (Spinosaurus hunted large fish and small crocs while Carcharo hunted sauropods!)
Ironhide661 2 months ago
@Ironhide661 oh i am really confused about this but were there very few dinosaurs left at the end of age of dinosaurs or were there a lot and were dinosaurs reptiles at all?
lifeform106 2 months ago