@carven2004eca why do people always have to be so negative towards nice people, dunham seems like a nice guy, he doesnt deserve haters. and ya i saw when he got knocked out, but i still think he belongs in the ufc because he finishes guys all the time. more-so then the average fighter.
evan dunham's not so amazing or nothing.ppl try to make it seem like he's a jon jones or something but cleary he's not.just look how guillard destroyed him.sherk was slamming him all over the place and even busted him open with GnP.the 2nd and 3rd definitely cud have gone to evan though.
I think a case can be made for either guy in that fight. At first i thought it was all Dunham hands down, but rewatching it i can definitely see where the judges and many other people saw that Sherk won. It was even closer than I remembered. A highly competitive bout between two guys who offered and offense form every area. Dunham threatened Sherk with chokes and Sherk held his own on the feet. Damn good fight between two good competitors.
Sherk did nothing to win round 2..first 3 minutes of that round fighters spent in the clintch where Dunham landed way more than Sherk and had 3 submission attempts and last 2 minutes was a kick boxing match which Dunham obivously won - the statistic of the fight clearly showes who was a winner of that fight
29-28 for Dunham - I have absolutely no idea how this can be argued
@kareem87said5 just comes down to how people score fights. Some people weight in on takedowns + guard passing, some people weight more on the guy putting pressure on the other. That's the problem with todays scoring criteria, leaves too many open holes. Honestly, I thought that second round was a toss up, not necessarily for pushing Dunham up against the cage though. I had to give him points on quikcly passing Dunham's guard after every takedown. On the flip side, Dunham banged him up good.
So according to that logic, passing guard should be more important than effective striking and submission attempts, please watch the fight one more time without being biased and you wont find any reason for giving 2nd round to Sherk...This is sad that for most of people, including many judges, exist a rule - just score a takedown and its enough to win a round - even though you take a beatdown before and after that, people needs to understand this is mma-not a grappling match
@kareem87said5 I never said passing guard > effective striking. But the fact that he scored the takedown, passed guard, all while was getting the better of the early exchanges COULD win him the round depending on who's scoring. Please, read through what I have to say thoroughly. Never did i state that Sherk won the fight, just saying that an argument could be made. I never said that passing guard or scoring a takedown is worth more than effective striking either.
We all agree Sherk won 1st round - although I still dont know how he avoided that choke..Im sure every other son of a bitch not named Sean Sherk would have tapped in that position and Dunham dominated 3rd round - it was damn close to score 10-8 for him - the real question is 2nd round ant its all that matters
Again, I still dont see the argument for giving 2nd round to Sherk..they spent first 3 minutes of 2nd round clinch where Dunham landed waaaay more..
..Sherk did score a takedown but did NOTHING after that-didnt even land anything while Dunham had 3 submission attempts and got back to his feet very fast and landed bunch of punches in clinch while Sherk landed just several solid shoots-Sherk obivously got frustrated cause he failed to do something and after 3 minutes he gave up clinch and tried to exchange with Dunham..we all know who was better in that excange in last 2 minutes of 2nd round and that wasnt even a question
@kareem87said5 I dunno about a 10-8 for the 3rd, I think that may be pushing it. But there was no way Sherk was ever in the fight in the 3rd. I think it really just comes down to how you score it. I can see why some people think Sherk could have won the 2nd, but when Dunham started to turn it up he really was catching Sherk clean. Guess they'll just have to have another fight down to road to answer all questions.
I respect your opinion,I love your account on youtube..but what bothers me the most about this fight is post-fight interview with Sean Sherk in which he stated "I won 1st round pretty decisively, 2nd round was close, 3rd round was close.."he didnt even want to give 3rd round to Sherk lol-when he said 2nd and 3rd ones were close that means he KNEW he lost both of them, I watched this fight on live streaming and only fight in ufc that was so rigged was Hamill vs Bisping
@kareem87said5 Well i remember a few interviews he did say he lost the 3rd, but that is pretty ridiculous if he said that the third was close. I can see him making an argument for the 2nd, but to even say that he was in the fight in the 3rd is wack. I love Sherk, he's one of my all time favorites, but that's just BS. hahaha ah well, least he wasn't like Bisping where it was a clear cut 30-27 and still said, "yeah!! We all know who the real TUF 3 winner is now!!!" WTF?? hahahhaa
I like this guy. Humble and works hard, and he's a really skilled fighter who just muscles through every bad situation. Probably my favorite lightweight.
As for the Sherk fight... I felt like round 2 and 3 went to Dunham. They gave rnd 2 to Sherk based on "control" when it was really Dunham who dictated the fight. Sherk held on to his hips for most of the round only because Evan wasn't going to be taken down, and he ate 50 elbows in the process. He offered no real offense after the first round.
@kareem87said5 Whatever you think than. I'm long past the point of arguing about it. Evan won the 3rd but, by the time he did, Sherk had rounds 1 and 2 secure in his pocket. That's all I'm saying.
Man, Sherk vs. Dunham was bullshit. Sherk only got a couple good punches on his face which caused cuts. Dunham got up quickly whenever Sherk got him down, and he kept throwing Sherk to the fence, and he dominated him brutally in the stand up, and he had Sherk in multiple tight Guillotines. And they give the decision to Sherk? Man these judges suck. JUDGES!!!! QUIT ROBBING GOOD FIGHTERS!!! YOU ARE ABOUT TO RUIN SOMEONE'S CAREER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@PankrationWarrior I know you're trying to sound intelligent because you are most likely mentally retarded with an IQ of about 48 so don't try to say that I'm not intelligent
because I said some bad words. Either way Dunham knows that he got robbed so did everyone in the crowd that night same think happened with Brillz and Nogueira if you haven't seen it look it up. Judges tend to favor the more popular fighter in close fights not who actually won.
@PankrationWarrior there's a great reason everyone booed sean sherk when they announced the decision. evan whooped this guys ass i mean sean didn't do shit standing up. he just got a couple good shots when on top of him. evan fucked his shit up so you can go suck off a donkey
the referring is crooked as we all know. these fucking state athletic commissions (especially NV,CA TX) are controlled by the mob who own the bigger gambling houses.
cecil peoples is a moronic shill and I would love to know more about Keith Kizers personal and professional associations.
Just beccause you beat a wrestler (Shamar Bailey) doesn't mean shit...........YOU SUCK!!!!!!!!
TheKj1434 5 months ago
Your bitch ass doesn't belong in the UFC. Not after that BEAT down you took against Guillard.
carven2004eca 5 months ago
@carven2004eca FUCK you PUNK BITCHH>
DrDeeAye 5 months ago
@DrDeeAye lmao
carven2004eca 5 months ago
@carven2004eca why do people always have to be so negative towards nice people, dunham seems like a nice guy, he doesnt deserve haters. and ya i saw when he got knocked out, but i still think he belongs in the ufc because he finishes guys all the time. more-so then the average fighter.
krnk4life 4 months ago
@krnk4life your right. I take it back and I appologize
carven2004eca 4 months ago
evan dunham's not so amazing or nothing.ppl try to make it seem like he's a jon jones or something but cleary he's not.just look how guillard destroyed him.sherk was slamming him all over the place and even busted him open with GnP.the 2nd and 3rd definitely cud have gone to evan though.
jas108 1 year ago
I think a case can be made for either guy in that fight. At first i thought it was all Dunham hands down, but rewatching it i can definitely see where the judges and many other people saw that Sherk won. It was even closer than I remembered. A highly competitive bout between two guys who offered and offense form every area. Dunham threatened Sherk with chokes and Sherk held his own on the feet. Damn good fight between two good competitors.
JustinThoj 1 year ago
@JustinThoj
Sherk did nothing to win round 2..first 3 minutes of that round fighters spent in the clintch where Dunham landed way more than Sherk and had 3 submission attempts and last 2 minutes was a kick boxing match which Dunham obivously won - the statistic of the fight clearly showes who was a winner of that fight
29-28 for Dunham - I have absolutely no idea how this can be argued
kareem87said5 1 year ago
@kareem87said5 just comes down to how people score fights. Some people weight in on takedowns + guard passing, some people weight more on the guy putting pressure on the other. That's the problem with todays scoring criteria, leaves too many open holes. Honestly, I thought that second round was a toss up, not necessarily for pushing Dunham up against the cage though. I had to give him points on quikcly passing Dunham's guard after every takedown. On the flip side, Dunham banged him up good.
JustinThoj 1 year ago
@JustinThoj
So according to that logic, passing guard should be more important than effective striking and submission attempts, please watch the fight one more time without being biased and you wont find any reason for giving 2nd round to Sherk...This is sad that for most of people, including many judges, exist a rule - just score a takedown and its enough to win a round - even though you take a beatdown before and after that, people needs to understand this is mma-not a grappling match
kareem87said5 1 year ago
@kareem87said5 I never said passing guard > effective striking. But the fact that he scored the takedown, passed guard, all while was getting the better of the early exchanges COULD win him the round depending on who's scoring. Please, read through what I have to say thoroughly. Never did i state that Sherk won the fight, just saying that an argument could be made. I never said that passing guard or scoring a takedown is worth more than effective striking either.
JustinThoj 1 year ago
@JustinThoj
We all agree Sherk won 1st round - although I still dont know how he avoided that choke..Im sure every other son of a bitch not named Sean Sherk would have tapped in that position and Dunham dominated 3rd round - it was damn close to score 10-8 for him - the real question is 2nd round ant its all that matters
Again, I still dont see the argument for giving 2nd round to Sherk..they spent first 3 minutes of 2nd round clinch where Dunham landed waaaay more..
kareem87said5 1 year ago
@kareem87said5
..Sherk did score a takedown but did NOTHING after that-didnt even land anything while Dunham had 3 submission attempts and got back to his feet very fast and landed bunch of punches in clinch while Sherk landed just several solid shoots-Sherk obivously got frustrated cause he failed to do something and after 3 minutes he gave up clinch and tried to exchange with Dunham..we all know who was better in that excange in last 2 minutes of 2nd round and that wasnt even a question
kareem87said5 1 year ago
@kareem87said5 I dunno about a 10-8 for the 3rd, I think that may be pushing it. But there was no way Sherk was ever in the fight in the 3rd. I think it really just comes down to how you score it. I can see why some people think Sherk could have won the 2nd, but when Dunham started to turn it up he really was catching Sherk clean. Guess they'll just have to have another fight down to road to answer all questions.
JustinThoj 1 year ago
@JustinThoj
I respect your opinion,I love your account on youtube..but what bothers me the most about this fight is post-fight interview with Sean Sherk in which he stated "I won 1st round pretty decisively, 2nd round was close, 3rd round was close.."he didnt even want to give 3rd round to Sherk lol-when he said 2nd and 3rd ones were close that means he KNEW he lost both of them, I watched this fight on live streaming and only fight in ufc that was so rigged was Hamill vs Bisping
kareem87said5 1 year ago
@kareem87said5 Well i remember a few interviews he did say he lost the 3rd, but that is pretty ridiculous if he said that the third was close. I can see him making an argument for the 2nd, but to even say that he was in the fight in the 3rd is wack. I love Sherk, he's one of my all time favorites, but that's just BS. hahaha ah well, least he wasn't like Bisping where it was a clear cut 30-27 and still said, "yeah!! We all know who the real TUF 3 winner is now!!!" WTF?? hahahhaa
JustinThoj 1 year ago
@JustinThoj
That interview with Sean Sherk is on youtube - just put "Sean Sherk Makes the Case for Win at UFC 119"
kareem87said5 1 year ago
@kareem87said5 sounds good, I'll check it out. Thanks man.
JustinThoj 1 year ago
submit melvin
jakasama 1 year ago
sean sherk did some damage man
ChrisL1100 1 year ago
I like this guy. Humble and works hard, and he's a really skilled fighter who just muscles through every bad situation. Probably my favorite lightweight.
As for the Sherk fight... I felt like round 2 and 3 went to Dunham. They gave rnd 2 to Sherk based on "control" when it was really Dunham who dictated the fight. Sherk held on to his hips for most of the round only because Evan wasn't going to be taken down, and he ate 50 elbows in the process. He offered no real offense after the first round.
MarkBradshawMusic 1 year ago
h was robed bid time
BoxingKid100 1 year ago
Finish Melvin
shooter246123 1 year ago
I like this dude. Stay humble and motivated and you will go far Dunham
i3bet 1 year ago
@ydsgen ur dumb. ur are so dumb. foreal.
johnnyvann 1 year ago
Sherk won the fight IMO.
therealearthmunkey 1 year ago
@therealearthmunkey
Actually, Sherk won 1 part of rd1 when he opened a cut on Dunham, rd2 and rd3 obivously goes to Dunham
kareem87said5 1 year ago
@kareem87said5 Whatever you think than. I'm long past the point of arguing about it. Evan won the 3rd but, by the time he did, Sherk had rounds 1 and 2 secure in his pocket. That's all I'm saying.
therealearthmunkey 1 year ago
@therealearthmunkey
Yeah, youre right, Sherk won rd2 by holding Dunhams hips for about 3 minutes lol
kareem87said5 1 year ago
when evan dunham builds up a resume like sherk and a young guy fights him close the guy with the resume always gets the win jus like rampage
jakekiser17 1 year ago
Man, Sherk vs. Dunham was bullshit. Sherk only got a couple good punches on his face which caused cuts. Dunham got up quickly whenever Sherk got him down, and he kept throwing Sherk to the fence, and he dominated him brutally in the stand up, and he had Sherk in multiple tight Guillotines. And they give the decision to Sherk? Man these judges suck. JUDGES!!!! QUIT ROBBING GOOD FIGHTERS!!! YOU ARE ABOUT TO RUIN SOMEONE'S CAREER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
adnanabbasi1992 1 year ago
@PankrationWarrior Lol okay
trickyrickysticky 1 year ago
@PankrationWarrior Lmfao no fucking retard not talking about nog and bader. dunham and sherk. haha
trickyrickysticky 1 year ago
@PankrationWarrior I know you're trying to sound intelligent because you are most likely mentally retarded with an IQ of about 48 so don't try to say that I'm not intelligent
because I said some bad words. Either way Dunham knows that he got robbed so did everyone in the crowd that night same think happened with Brillz and Nogueira if you haven't seen it look it up. Judges tend to favor the more popular fighter in close fights not who actually won.
trickyrickysticky 1 year ago
@PankrationWarrior i still made a good point. so suck off a donkey fucker (:
trickyrickysticky 1 year ago
@PankrationWarrior there's a great reason everyone booed sean sherk when they announced the decision. evan whooped this guys ass i mean sean didn't do shit standing up. he just got a couple good shots when on top of him. evan fucked his shit up so you can go suck off a donkey
trickyrickysticky 1 year ago
@PankrationWarrior Sherk may have won, but he didn't fucking win.
Coheednmadness 1 year ago
I don't think anyone has ever landed so many flying knees in one fight, like fucking twenty or smth.
ShockTherapist007 1 year ago
I LOVE THIS SPORT!!!! hehe guy rox
ShockTherapist007 1 year ago
You didn't lose that fight dude.
bulldogger 1 year ago
He asks what sets him apart? Mad skills son. MAD skills. Eugene Oregon is no joke
jameswestbiz1mil 1 year ago
You definetely won that fight bro!!!!
Future UFC champ!
Pharellman456 1 year ago
the referring is crooked as we all know. these fucking state athletic commissions (especially NV,CA TX) are controlled by the mob who own the bigger gambling houses.
cecil peoples is a moronic shill and I would love to know more about Keith Kizers personal and professional associations.
GREAT FIGHT DUNHAM EVERYONE KNOWS WHO WON
ParkwayDriveHorizons 1 year ago
im guessing kenny florian and evan dunham
dtanktdtank 1 year ago
his face looks like the decision made a loser
dtanktdtank 1 year ago
big fan of dunhams after watching that sherk fight
StaringAtFate 1 year ago
Dude, you won that fight, hands down !!
1fightmagnet 1 year ago