Computer and Information Systems Manager Job Description

[eangeles92]

@MrJarrell93 What major did you choose?

[HurdleBoyIsh]

Can you make good money in this field? I am about to be a 2nd semester freshman soon and I was thinking about switching into Computer and Information Technology with a focus on CIS.  I know managers make a lot of money but what if you're not a manager? Are you stuck making 35,000 a year? or can you make 80+ regardless?

[andresrojas22]

man this job suckks, i cant believe im studying this career, i dont wanna waste my life explaining stupid dumb ass whores secretaries how to use the keyboard

[CHICKAjo]

@andresrojas22 id do that for 200,000 dollars a year!

[brianzos]

@andresrojas22

Lol dude, thats help desk support. You gotta get into the programming/network side if you want some money. Plus those secretaries are hot xD

[TheGamerzDomain]

my cousin started out with a job for a drug company as an IT and his beginning salary was 35,000 a year right out of college. But in one year they doubled his salary to 70,000 and it is now 5 years later he is making 157,000 a year and has currently been home doing nothing for 2 and half weeks now because they don't need him at this moment but is still getting paid. I'm pretty sure i can say that he has the luckiest job in the world...

[HurdleBoyIsh]

@TheGamerzDomain where does he work?

[elr456]

Does a job in this field require a lot of math?

[genieva3]

I'm currently in school for CIS and have to decide on a concentration soon. Any ideas?

Web design sounds like fun, but I like all aspects of computers and really can't decide.

[HomieFilms]

@genieva3

go for game design homie!

[rdxxxx]

And with any job, you have to know people and have connections. If you're going to send a resume online along with thousands of other people , then its a much more difficult process.

[rdxxxx]

The problem with networking imo is that you have to go through certifications. For job requirements, ALONG with a bachelors degree, companies look for certs like CCNA, MCSE etc. Finding a job in network administration isn't that hard. I got some interviews out of college from small businesses for NA, but they just didn't pay that much. Plus I didn't feel like studying for a cert every 3years or so which some require. CAREFULLY research the certification and its worth before you invest time in it

[rdxxxx]

My STARTING salaryis 46,000. Granted, this is with less than 1 year of experience. If you are computer science, I think you start at 50,000. Computer engineers/other engineer 55,000 - 60,000 depending on the company. So its not a bad starting salary. In 5 years when I finish my masters, I am expecting to make 90,000k per year.

There are TWO routes you can goto in IS. Either programming or networking and from there you can work your way to being a manager. Msg me if u have any questions.

[WhatTheTech]

@rdxxxx I hear its hard to break into networking, is that true?

[hairlesheep]

@rdxxxx

what do you think is better. Computer Hardware engineering or computer systems analyst? I am more into the main hands on with a computer and I really dont mind the salary although a little bit ^.^

[rdxxxx]

@hairlesheep

Computer Engineering is more difficult and a niche field in my opinion. Systems management is managing IT hardware/software where as CE is designing/programming hardware/chips. It all depends on what you wanna do man. I'm a data management analyst . Its not the most perfect job, but on the bright side, I get to work with a bunch of cute nurses :>

[hairlesheep]

@rdxxxx

:D thanx

[rdxxxx]

@steven4570

My first IT job was a web administrator at my school. I then quickly did freelancing for about 3 months, didn't like it. With the recession, I was actually out of work for like 2 months. Then I got two job offers, one for system administration/programming. The other in data management which is what I chose because it paid better. (26$/hr to 18 lolz). I don't think help-desk will really get you anywhere. Networking pays well, so does database admin, and software development.

[MrJarrell93]

@rdxxxx currently an undecided sophomore in the business college at my university. i have no idea how to program computers and the only prior experience to any language was my high school q basic class. computers have always interested me though and i think could be good at it. should i just say fuck it and go into marketing or an operations management type thing or am i going to be starting from the ground up with this major?

[gcsupernova]

is a bacehlors degree in computing and information systems any good?

[candido11471]

i'm about to finish an associastes degree. so How much would I get paid?

[TheOoglypoogly]

@candido11471 very little with only an associates degree.

[thompsoncorey]

@candido11471 yeah around 54,000 a year but go for your bachelors degree instead making around 75,000 a year.

[toughbutfair32]

IDK this seems like a bum deal, while professionals in other fields become more knowledgeable with experience, this seems like a field where lots of experience would work against you, as you would be most experienced in obsolete technologies.

What exactly do they mean by "constantly learning?" As in, you're spending money/effort in attaining new certification every year/couple of years?

[503shocky503]

this is my major yeahhhhh. but how much money do they make?

[Soundtrack1000]

can learn

[raredunks]

why is this tittle Information System when they talk about Information Technology???

[arcanecraft]

im in finance and information systems. Best of both worlds.

[conman2317]

I'm an information systems student at the hospital, I 'm doing this for my co-op work term, and its amazing, definitely a good job. I wouldn't make a career out of it as it does not have specialized training, its all over the place, from programming to troubleshooting, to hardware. Be prepared to be learning new things 24/7 and also be prepared for frustration and stress. I'd recommend this career for those challenge seekers, but not for those who want specified higher knowledge.

[mik3ayala18]

im starting school for a CIS Bachelors this July. wish me luck =D

[ShowNoMercy7]

hey me too!! lol where are you learning it at?

[mik3ayala18]

DeVry University at New York

[ShowNoMercy7]

lol nice brah, im going DeVry University in Orlando, Florida

[mik3ayala18]

sweet. good luck =D

[ShowNoMercy7]

yeah you too brah xD

[Jinxxed0]

@mik3ayala18 how did it turn out for you? im starting on the 22nd. im thinking it will get me ready for programming classes, cause i haven't programmed at all really and starting from zero. i've gone into soe code to change things here and there, but its just trial and error and i never really knew what i was doing lol

[paco4killa]

I'm majoring in computer information systems. Is this a type of job I would be getting into, because i've heard CIS major has lots of choices in careers.

[b0ondockz]

Why is there such a large amount of people that knock it when its always considered a top career by so many occupational sites that research the statistics about these jobs?

[toughbutfair32]

@b0ondockz Yeah you pose an excellent question, which I wonder myself. I'm not in the industry, but one reason could be the disconnect between media with no first hand experience in the matter and IT veterans who actually have first hand knowledge. Your other posts are spot on too, the forums on Dice are absolutely depressing to read when it comes to IT.

If you have found any sort of enlightenment in regards to this within the last year, feel free to share.

[b0ondockz]

Are the people that knock it just disgruntled help desk employees with no

college degree while the happy people are the ones with a college education holding the high tech positions making

lots of money or is this just a real crappy industry to work in that only appeals to a select few of people? Id love to hear from real professionals. Is this an exciting area? Is it really boring? Continued->

[b0ondockz]

When I look for jobs online there seem to be alot, with good pay. When I research the best jobs, the highest paying, the most in demand, IT is always on top. Many people say that IT is boring, that it is a waste of time to study, and that it is a dead end. It seems to me that MOST people who claim to be in the field totally knock it while a small amount actually consider it a great career. Continued->

[b0ondockz]

Maybe somebody can help me. Ive been considering a career in IT but I am reading alot of mixed opinions about the

field. Some people say that the industry is dying in the US and that everything is being outsourced while others say that there are plenty of opportunities in the field. Some say that everything can be outsourced and others say that there are certain "hands on" type of jobs that could never be outsourced which makes sense to me. Continued->

[jaymoragne]

please! they don't do crap but sit in cubicles all day and get fat pay checks!

[hellowselena]

Really? Thats what I want to do!

[Maverickjz97]

girl in purple ;)

[PhreshRedd]

HELL NO!!

[FatalDeity]

hahaaahaha why  you say Hell no

[xwishmasterx]

Specializing in security brings more money i believe..

[atdtheo12516]

Easier to play off peoples fears then greed

[rsuesakul]

interesting. randy suesakul

[bollagi]

What a horrible comparison. Industrial Engineering requires a higher quality of credentials than an information systems administrator would have.

[D3mi4n]

If Industrial Engineering is an engineering dicipline, I don't see why Information Systems can't also an engineering dicipline.

[aminex]

my dream job right there

[KingPain14]

girl at :32 was hot

[atdtheo12516]

Agree, I would cum on her face and tell her it is required to access her computer.

[evhwolfie]

Its all part of the reboot process ;)

[xwishmasterx]

computer girl, yea they are hot and smart!

[Thunderstormz247]

Outstanding video. Thanks for the info, it's very helpful.

[RogerPDWang777]

I am using this in my lecture this week on IS Fundamentals... thanks for sharing