I like the idea of a maglev train between Los Angeles and Las Vegas, but I support private industry more than anything. I am ready for the groundbreaking of DesertXpress next month.
Maglev are very expensive project so its cheaper to build a desert xpress from vegas to victorvill and extend the tracks from victorvill to Palmdale and connect with the california high speed rail which goes from L.A. to San Fransisco so If you want to go to anaheim from vegas, you take the Desert Xpress to palmdale and connect with the California HSR and take it to Anaheim.
Yeah, people can talk all day about this, but in the end, all you have to ask is:
WHY build a 30-story creaky stairwell in a 50-story building when you can have a slick, fast elevator that goes all the way to the penthouse?
More than 9 out of 10 people in our community prefer Maglev over the Deserted Xpress (81% vs 8%). In fact more people would rather have NO project at all than a steel wheel train to Victorville. (according to LVSun poll)
@ShiekoBento yes the truth is nobody cares about victorville we want this maglev because we want to go to the main cities lika los angeles and san fransisco.
Forecasts show that Maglev will attract 4 times more travelers than DesertXpress. This is because of its connections and, compared to steel wheel trains, Maglev is more than twice as fast, uses 30% less energy at same speeds, has significantly less operation and maintenance costs, has 99.9% on-time reliability, uses almost half the amount of right-of-way and is much safer as it is impossible to derail.
Thanks ShiekoBento, we see you have done your homework. The cost of this Maglev project will be $45 million/mile (within the same range as DX), an estimate approved by the Federal Railroad Administration and published by the Government Accountability Office. And this will be funded through a similar financial strategy as the CA High Speed Rail, using both private and public money and would actually be profitable because of the attraction, destinations and ridership of the project.
Once DesertXpress planners realized that no one was buying into their project, they suddenly announced this idea that they could extend the project into Palmdale. However, after doing some research, I discovered that this extension is NOT included anywhere within their EIS or plans, it is not even on the 'Route' page of their own website. So the $9 billion price tag is just to drop passengers off about 80 to 90 miles away from most travelers' final destination.
@ShiekoBento It's on there now. It would not surprise me that, after DesertXpress is completed, Amtrak or Metrolink will provide rail connections to Los Angeles; or perhaps a bus service.
According to the experts in the Federal Railroad Administration, DesertXpress has substantially underestimated their costs and state that this type project could cost up to $9 billion. And they've now shifted on their statement that they will use only private funding and are now seeking government money. Not to mention that the DesertXpress is being led by the same people who got rich planning the monorail, which has gone belly-up and the financial burdern will now fall into our lap!
@ShiekoBento Just to clarify, DesertXpress is seeking a Federal Loan. There's a difference between a loan and a federal grant. Obviously, the loan is to be paid back. DesertXpress is currently working with undisclosed business partners to start construction by the end of September.
The DesertXpress is 3-4 times cheaper than this project and will have the capability to go directly into Downtown Los Angeles by connecting to the future California High-Speed Rail system in Palmdale. All in all, this is a waste of money when you can build an already proven technology that's completely privately funded. Those who say the DesertXpress only ends in Victorville don't know that it's the temporary terminus until the line can be extended to Palmdale, using CHSR tracks into LAUPT.
I like the idea of a maglev train between Los Angeles and Las Vegas, but I support private industry more than anything. I am ready for the groundbreaking of DesertXpress next month.
gibb1991 1 year ago
Maglev are very expensive project so its cheaper to build a desert xpress from vegas to victorvill and extend the tracks from victorvill to Palmdale and connect with the california high speed rail which goes from L.A. to San Fransisco so If you want to go to anaheim from vegas, you take the Desert Xpress to palmdale and connect with the California HSR and take it to Anaheim.
sideslide23 2 years ago
Yeah, people can talk all day about this, but in the end, all you have to ask is:
WHY build a 30-story creaky stairwell in a 50-story building when you can have a slick, fast elevator that goes all the way to the penthouse?
More than 9 out of 10 people in our community prefer Maglev over the Deserted Xpress (81% vs 8%). In fact more people would rather have NO project at all than a steel wheel train to Victorville. (according to LVSun poll)
ShiekoBento 2 years ago 2
@ShiekoBento yes the truth is nobody cares about victorville we want this maglev because we want to go to the main cities lika los angeles and san fransisco.
Musika113 1 year ago
Forecasts show that Maglev will attract 4 times more travelers than DesertXpress. This is because of its connections and, compared to steel wheel trains, Maglev is more than twice as fast, uses 30% less energy at same speeds, has significantly less operation and maintenance costs, has 99.9% on-time reliability, uses almost half the amount of right-of-way and is much safer as it is impossible to derail.
canvmaglev 2 years ago
Thanks ShiekoBento, we see you have done your homework. The cost of this Maglev project will be $45 million/mile (within the same range as DX), an estimate approved by the Federal Railroad Administration and published by the Government Accountability Office. And this will be funded through a similar financial strategy as the CA High Speed Rail, using both private and public money and would actually be profitable because of the attraction, destinations and ridership of the project.
canvmaglev 2 years ago
The Maglev alignment makes about 500% more sense than the DesertedXpress because it:
Will take me all the way into Los Angeles metro area in less time than DX can get to Victorville.
Will actually connect two of the largest tourist destinations in the world, not to mention 3 airports.
Will address the most congested and miserable portion of I-15 that DX completely misses, from LA to Victorville.
Will have 6 stations - boosting the economies of several cities, unlike DX.
ShiekoBento 2 years ago 2
Once DesertXpress planners realized that no one was buying into their project, they suddenly announced this idea that they could extend the project into Palmdale. However, after doing some research, I discovered that this extension is NOT included anywhere within their EIS or plans, it is not even on the 'Route' page of their own website. So the $9 billion price tag is just to drop passengers off about 80 to 90 miles away from most travelers' final destination.
ShiekoBento 2 years ago 2
@ShiekoBento It's on there now. It would not surprise me that, after DesertXpress is completed, Amtrak or Metrolink will provide rail connections to Los Angeles; or perhaps a bus service.
gibb1991 1 year ago
According to the experts in the Federal Railroad Administration, DesertXpress has substantially underestimated their costs and state that this type project could cost up to $9 billion. And they've now shifted on their statement that they will use only private funding and are now seeking government money. Not to mention that the DesertXpress is being led by the same people who got rich planning the monorail, which has gone belly-up and the financial burdern will now fall into our lap!
ShiekoBento 2 years ago
@ShiekoBento Just to clarify, DesertXpress is seeking a Federal Loan. There's a difference between a loan and a federal grant. Obviously, the loan is to be paid back. DesertXpress is currently working with undisclosed business partners to start construction by the end of September.
gibb1991 1 year ago
The DesertXpress is 3-4 times cheaper than this project and will have the capability to go directly into Downtown Los Angeles by connecting to the future California High-Speed Rail system in Palmdale. All in all, this is a waste of money when you can build an already proven technology that's completely privately funded. Those who say the DesertXpress only ends in Victorville don't know that it's the temporary terminus until the line can be extended to Palmdale, using CHSR tracks into LAUPT.
poseidoncambria 2 years ago
true beside the Desert xpress should start sometime by the last week of this month.
sideslide23 2 years ago