@TheaDragonSpirit hehe :) well it just seems like it goes that way, cute guys that keep themselves healthy (outside of bodybuilding that is)... I'm glad he has a gf and I hope they get married. I am ;D
...Therefore vegans and vegetarians actually have higher levels of B12 in their bodies than people who eat a meat-based diet. Vegetarians who have heard that they don't get enough protein in their diets and know this myth is untrue can rest assured that vitamin B12 deficiency is a myth as well. Instead, vegans need to concentrate on eating plenty of healthy low fat raw foods. The truth is people don't have to eat meat or other animal products to survive and thrive.
Myth that vegans face is that it is impossible to get the essential B12 vitamin, which is in fact not found in any type of food, plant or animal based. B12 is actually a microbe produced by microorganisms found in the digestive track of a person. Once it is produced it is absorbed into the blood stream via the digestive track walls. If the walls are covered with residue from high levels of protein however, this process cannot be complete...
if you detoxify and rebuild the tissue your body will produce vit b12 on it's own if you stay on a low fat raw vegan diet (info source from long time raw foodies and Dr Robert Morse). There are a lot of ways to make a raw food "junk" food too, especially if you use lot of nuts and dried fruits in your diet. Vit D3? yes, absolutely, if you don't get enough sun, you will need vit D3.
you are recommending to buy the largest and most structurally complicated vitamin ...even though the only way it can be produced industrially is through bacterial fermentation-synthesis
whatsup with that
we can get the bacteria naturally if we grow our own food (or get a freind to grow for us) ...then harvest it ourselves without washing it with municiple water (rain is most efficent) ...plants 'n' shrooms grow in a symbiotic relationship with bacteria
@ZennLa13 B12 is a ridiculous assertion that you must eat meat or else...The reason we don't get it from our natural diet is because of over cleanliness of washing etc, but if you have this problem you could just supplement it. You don't have to eat meat to get B12, and the only reason meat has any at all is because Herbivores that get it from eating grass etc that have the bacterias. And there are many downfalls to eating meat, uric acid, high cholesterol, and other diseases to name a few...
I like this video much. This is very informational, and a keeper. I do not know about the other video's, I will have to check them out. Thank you for this video!
About 40% of people are B12 deficient and less than 5% of people are vegetarians. The problem is, as you age you loose your ability to absorb B12 from food. This is called atrophic gastritis which means the stomach secretes less hydrochloric acid, pepsin and intrinsic factor that are needed to absorb B12. This is very common in older people. All people should take B12 regardless of whether you are a vegan or meat eater. It really is a silly debate when people say vegans are B12 deficient.
@Liton777 depends where they grow ...in the wild most likely yes ...mushrooms are the fruit of the fungi ...fungi grows in a symbiotic relationship with bacteria naturally
This video was usles! It did not tell me anything usfull, most people know this already, What I whant to know is difrent ways to get b12 without eating pills.
Kevin, I just picked up a "B-6 / Folic acid / B-12" under the tong supplement from Trader Joe's. It contains homocysteine. Will this be useful to take? If not, I've got my receipt. Thanks so much!!!
Spirulina has a lot of B12 and bee pollen has B12 in high amounts.also some vegetables and grains and other plant food has complex with vitamin B, which means traces of B12 will be there still.there is no needs to eat meat to get B12 thanks God.
@redmoon787 All analogues that must be converted to be used as true b12, the conversion rate is next to nothing. Just eat eggs, they are loaded with true B12, problem solved.
My step dad was feeling tired & he has always been a super big time meat eater. He started taking b complex & feels a ton better....also the doctor's told my step dad to eat no meat! Meat bad.... : )
The only reason why vegans and vegetarians are sometimes deficient in B12 is that almost all our soil is fu**ed up meaning we hardly have any good soil with good microorganisms left. Plus we're to hygienic about things which give us less B12 on our food. Gorillas for example eat the own poop sometime to get B12, though they do it out of instinct it's not something we would want to do ;-)
I believe b12 is produced by bacteria in the intestines. I am not sure. Also, that it is recycled by the liver. It is possible b12 deficiency reflects gut flora imbalances. More research is needed. Anyone have insight on this.
I watched this video thinking I was going to disagree with what Kevin Gianni had to say, but i was wrong!!! It seems like a very honest answer on the subject. I'm glad he brought up the MMA levels and B12 issue because not a lot of people know about it.
To answer your question (a few years late lol).... I did like this episode!
Kevin, a bit late here but thank you for putting this information up. I have been studing nutrition as of late and I came across B-12 and it's relation to raw-food. I was trying to figure out the solution and I found your vid.. Again, thank you.
Primates, for example, are the closest relatives to humans. Apparently they're vegans, or herbivores. Where the hell do they get B12 from? Maybe Vitamin B12 is not a vitamin.
B12 is actually derived from bacteria that is found in meat and animal products. after all bacteria love the rotting flesh of animals! Although B12 is hypothisised to occur in Tempe and Natto(japenese fermented soybeans), they are shown not to b a significant source.
Well, I was just watching a video from Catch a Healthy Habit where some dude was saying his friends who grow their own food, been raw vegan for over 20 years showed up as B12 deficient in a lab test, BUT...no symptoms! This idea of B12 deficiency is looking more and more like a lie widely believed to be truth, and it was probably started by the meat industry! Isn't Tim Van Orden rawvegan, no supplements, kicks ass and takes names in mountain running? I don't think he takes ANY supplements!
Hi Kevin :) I think that chlorella is better than spirulina but I thought that only synthetic supplements we're not bioavailable to the body and if the supplement came from a whole natural food source it is more absorbable (bioavailable)?
"For vegans and raw foodies we have to take a supplement."
Well its been over a month now as a raw vegan and I have never taken any B12 supplement in my life. I think the claim we need to take supplements is a farce. Oh but then someone claiming to be whatever vegan will say some crap suggesting the long term effects won't be noticeable immediately. Well whatever the case we'll see about that.
The guy in the video I think is a con man doing the same crap the others do.
Many people do eat raw eggs, and some of the people who post here claim to eat raw meat as well.
As to cooking a grain, in what way does that make it not "whole". "Whole" means that no part is missing. All of the studies have shown that brief cooking doesn't take anything away from vegetable foods. Even long-term boiling, doesn't take away any nutrients, as they are easily found in the water (in other words, if you make a soup, all of the phytonutrients (etc) are preserved in the brother).
A whole food to me means the food has not been tampered with in any way.
Cooking does affect grains, for example how they would taste cooked compared to raw. Water or the moisture in grains can be lost, the "components" of the chosen grains are altered when cooking them.
As a result it is not an original grain it was when it was growing in the wild or wherever it was.
If it was it would still be difficult to eat, more harsh.
"A food that has not been tampered with in any way"... Which of the following do you consider "tampering": Plucking a fruit from a tree, and peeling off its protective outer layer. Blending or mashing fresh vegetables with a machine (perhaps to make a salsa), rather than just mashing them with your teeth (much the same effect, btw). Letting legumes soak in water so that they soften.
Fruits taste different with peels, veggies taste difference unmixed, and legumes taste WAY different unsoaked...
... The point is that, while it may have some moral/spiritual/ethichal/or other such cultural meaning to you for a plant to be as close to its natural state as possible, that doesn't have anything to do with what is right NUTRITIONALLY.
For example, herbivores eat leaves. They can't digest the cellulose themselves, but have bacteria in their gut to ALTER the nature of the plant, so that it is digestible to them.
First of all I use no blender. Second if I could I'd let the fruit I eat ripen way before it gets picked meaning I let them drop first. And I always eat the skins of the fruit I eat, there is no waste.
Third, why one must compare humans to other animals to support their claims is a sign of weakness.
The human I do not believe is a herbivore and I have not eaten vegetables for around a month now.
You use hot water because the grain isn't natural. But the animal can do this on their own.
The insides of the animals have a system designed for the task, one can only try to simulate that. But humans get the side effects of bloating from their way of cooking it instead.
I don't base my "beliefs" on morals, ethics or "spiritual". I base it on natural law.
Not allowed to cite the references, but it actually happens to be true that the long-term effects take a while to notice. Pernicious anemia is one of these effects. Certain neurological disorders are also possible.
The truth is that there is no animal or plant that produces B12. It is ONLY produced by bacteria. If you are eating plants that you yourself grow, and are not overly cleaning these, you may be getting enough B12 anyway.
I bet many who claimed to eat raw dairy and meat aren't what they seem.
The truth is claimed by many to be whatever they say it is. It turns out many are just going off what site(s) tell them. Even Poseidon500 is doing that from the sound of his voice (on another video) though its mainly his denials.
As for the references, you too are going off what they tell you. But if you really wanted to show those claims why not try sending them via YouTube message?
Regarding your question of the day.... I prefer the videos that provide the most practical infomation. I love your Q & As. Thanks for the great shows.
eating live food filled with sun energy gives us amazing energy, whereas cooked food enervates us. think of falling asleep after a meal, or getting sleepy in the middle of the day. the opposite occurs with a live food lifestyle.
Not every sea buckthorn bush, therefore, is a supplier of vitamin B12! Very recent analyses of the freshly harvested raw material have again confirmed the high content of up to 60 µg vitamin B12 per 100 g sample.
Seabuckthorn contains plenty B12 in the skin. Nature has ALL the answers! Dr. Pandalis Research was the first to discover that sea buckthorn skins of certain biotopes contain a lot of vitamin B12: and, by means of the symbiosis of sea buckthorn with special bacteria, a vitamin B12 concentration occurs in the seed skin of sea buckthorn, which was previously only known in liver.
I have been a 100% raw food vegan for ten days now, and I feel heaps better than I was 2 weeks ago. My blood pressure has gone down too, it was 140/94 , it is now 138/80. My doctor was pleasantly surprised. I am giving it a 100 day trial, to test if I can do this fully. It takes planning and more organization, but I am feeling alot better.
Meat doesn't automatically mean you'll have enough b12. I used to eat lots of meat & dairy, and still had b12defiency, and so did my twinsister. I was put on b12pills, and sister got shots. Neither of us noticed a difference when our b12levels went up.
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Oysters are a good source for Vitamin B12, also meat, fish, poultry, shellfish, milk, cheese, & eggs. You don't need to eat very much of those to get a sufficient amount of Vitamin B12. The adult RDA is .002 mg, two-millionths of a gram.
I don't think there is any evidence, so I don't believe the claims. It's really as simple as that.
But I can tell you that the "vitamin B12" supplements commonly pushed on vegetarians contain cyanide. I make it a habit not to believe cyanide is good for me, just as I do not believe mercury improves children's intelligence despite media reports.
There's vast amounts of evidence that B12 deficiency causes problems. If there is cyanide in them then it will be a negligible amount. I think you lack an understanding of basic science.
I think you lack an understanding is basic logic, but since you purport to be educated on the subject, I would gladly hear your evidence, and also a technical explanation of how "B12 deficiency" is tested for.
@budgallant i've been feeding my son a vegan diet thinking spirulina was good enough for b12.... well he has aenemia now. so you really think b12 is a toxin??
I have a feelin', 200 years ago their bodies were full of nutrient and absorbing what it needed. None of this toxic overload and folks suffering from malnutrition. We're really in a sad state today, aren't we.
raw diet and raw eggs? i have nt heard anyone bring this up....the raw food diet doesnt have to be an extension of the vegan diet...if eggs provide more nutrients, vital vitamins and better fats when eaten raw, whats the problem? i add 2 to smoothies everyday no B12 worries for me.
I suppose it depends on where you get your eggs. If they come from a typical factory farm, they could be infected with salmonella. If you can buy local, organic eggs from a farmer you know, then go for it.
i can't imagine who would take risks with this critical nutrient regardless of their ideology when, for about $10/month you can be assured you're not endangering your neurological health. with all the superfoods and other stuff people spend good money on, it boggles my mind that we even debate this one. this is the only supplement i'll never give up.
everyone needs b12 supplements, meat eaters especially. if you think you're not deficient based on basic bloodwork you're mistaken, they only show the presence of b12 markers, which remain in antibiotic-ridden farmed, frozen cooked meat. b12 is a probiotic and won't survive intact in the modern food chain, and if the marker is present the body won't even attempt to culture is (assuming it still can). do urine mma or white blood cell test and find a bacterial form of b12 regardless of your diet.
I have been vegan for over 15 years and have taken a commercial grade B12 supplement less than 10 times in all of those years...I have no deficiency of B12 and I do eat Earthrise spirulina every day. I also eat organic food, 50% raw and don't wash it. Don't worry, that causes deficiencies.
Please do not play with vitamin B12. The warning signs of vitamin B12 deficiency are not always immediate, because the damage to the nervous system caused by the deficiency are small and gradual. If you are a vegan, then please take a supplement and don't play with this.
I have never read anything scientific proof for this. Human body does create B12 but too low in the intestine so the vitamin cannot be absorbed. The only way to get B12 "naturally" is from uncooked organic vegetables that haven't been rigorously washed so the B12-bacteria from the soil still "sits" on the produce (industrial farming has done this impossible).
Like he said, you definitely should test your levels if you don't eat animal or enriched products or B12-supplements just to be sure.
@Luukuu ...this makes sense to me " The only way to get B12 "naturally" is from uncooked organic vegetables that haven't been rigorously washed so the B12-bacteria from the soil still "sits" on the produce"
my sister said the toilet thing is about gravitational pull. one side pulls one way and the people on the other side of the hemisphere pull the other.
theres mushrooms w/b12,alsonutritional yeast,if you garden your own food,grow organic,andspend time with your plants,be barefoot,use your barehands when working w/them,breathe on them,anything to give the plant information about you,put seeds in your mouth before planting,plants even respond to thought,read the secret life of plants for proof,if your a sceptic,doing these thing will tell the plant exactly what you need and make fruits,designed just for you,this will cure anything!just try it.
@uriel112358 thank-you for sharing your insight ...reading your comment resonated profoundly inside of me ...I so agree... we have everything we need in our own back yard if we just let the earth feel us the plants will come ...they may already be there ...I'm stopping commenting to reread and savour...
i love all you guys shows, you and your wife work so well together, i love how she laughs at you, she has an amazing smile. i learn alot from your shows, keep filming..:)
And besides, I never take "arguments" seriously. I just live and enjoy life, and not give a crap what any "anti-veg anti-fruitarian" says. Nor allowing any fear-mongering to pin my morale down.
So whether my "horrbible arguments" are too much, just ignore and live on if it's too much to read.
Besides, I am myself. No one is aware of who I am, and I don't need any seatbelts if I figure other means of healthy living by my senses, without buying into any fear-mongering.
I never even worry about B12 one bit. It's almost like the whole "protein" propaganda that folks try to scare us with. First the "protein" worship, now the B12 worship from "official sources," which I find a lot of crap. To those of you who go the vegan path, there's seriously nothing to worry about. Being conformed against your own will, by not going by instincts, really triggers an ailment at least for me.
Hence I don't give a crap what any source say. Been abstaining animal products no prob.
This is a horrible argument. It's really no different than saying "I don't wear my seatbelt, and I haven't died yet, so nobody should worry about wearing a seatbelt." Everyone, bury your head in the sand, woda says it's all propaganda. Or.. you could look at the research and make an informed decision.
There is no "protein myth." The need for protein is a very serious reality, and so is the need for vitamin B12. I encourage you with all sincerety to please not play with these nutrients.
You are using fear tactics here...I don't get you at all. The protein requirements were tested on rats, not humans, rats are omnivorous and need 200 times the protein compared to us. If you're concerned about protein eat raw food. The enzymes are protein. Every living thing is composed of proteins. Just eat whole food when you're hungry and you'll be fine..You don't even need beans! *Vegan for over 15 years and counting!!
1) You should subscribe to the American Journal of Clinical nutrition, where there are plenty of clinical trials with humans of various ethnicities to understand protein requirements.
2) A complete protein is a protein that contains most or all of the essential amino acids that cannot be produced by the human body. Plant proteins are not complete proteins. You will not find tryptophan, leucine, lysine, isoleucine, and other essential AA's in plant protein.
You are grossly misinformed and it's sad to see people buying into your foolishness. All of the proteins you have listed not existing in plants, do in fact exist in plants..Please GET INFORMED! And everyone else too :)
They do not exist in vegtables and they do not exist in fruit. If you do not consume meat, then you must consume beans or legumes. If your information does not come from a biology book, written by a professor that has produced peer-reviewed work, then don't tell people to get informed. YOU get informed.
Then roll up your sleeves and do the work to prove it. Conduct clinical trials and submit your work to journals. This is how you establish fact. Science is a process where truth is established by conducting experiments to achieve results that can be duplicated by someone else. The science of omnivorous human nutrition is established. If you want to disprove it, then get busy or be quiet.
Are you talking about protein? If so then why is it that current research makes the claim that mixing beans and bread creates a complete protein? I can locate this in several recent studies. What makes you think it's not true?
There is no "protein myth." The need for protein is a very serious reality, and so is the need for vitamin B12. I encourage you with all sincerety to please not play with these nutrients
no protein myth what country are you in , lies have and still are told about about protein in the uk
This a Lie There is no "protein myth." The need for protein is a very serious reality, and so is the need for vitamin B12. I encourage you with all sincerety to please not play with these nutrients
I agree with not worrying..as long as you are eating whole organic produce. I have taken the B12 supplement maybe a handful of times in the 15 years I've been vegan and I had my blood and urine tested since I recently had a baby and I checked out stellar. I also eat organic produce and rarely rinse..the bacteria is on fresh produce. If you find organic dirt, you find B12.
thank you for the info about b12. i got a blood test but still haven't been able to get a hold of my dr to get the results, and I heard Cousins saying urine tests are more accurate so I will take your advice and have one done.
I really don't know if any of the shows should go. Since you are so enthusiastic all the time any topic is more fun. Keep up the great work, thanks, Laura
Is nutritional yeast a good source of B12? I buy it in bulk and don't know if it has the methyl compound you have discussed, but it is fortified with B12.
I like all of them! The variety is great. Your enthusiasm and energy make each episode fun to watch, and the info is always interesting. I like the shirt you're wearing in this one :)
i like the in the kitchen, and i like the q&a... i'd love for you to interview interesting people in the raw food or motivational areas... your the bomb kev.. keep it up
brilliant video
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@servantrose - That's so funny! Ha! No he has girlfriend. :P
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@TheaDragonSpirit hehe :) well it just seems like it goes that way, cute guys that keep themselves healthy (outside of bodybuilding that is)... I'm glad he has a gf and I hope they get married. I am ;D
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Vitamin B12 deficiency due to a vegan diet is simply a lie that finally needs to be put to rest.
monika9v 3 months ago
...Therefore vegans and vegetarians actually have higher levels of B12 in their bodies than people who eat a meat-based diet. Vegetarians who have heard that they don't get enough protein in their diets and know this myth is untrue can rest assured that vitamin B12 deficiency is a myth as well. Instead, vegans need to concentrate on eating plenty of healthy low fat raw foods. The truth is people don't have to eat meat or other animal products to survive and thrive.
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Myth that vegans face is that it is impossible to get the essential B12 vitamin, which is in fact not found in any type of food, plant or animal based. B12 is actually a microbe produced by microorganisms found in the digestive track of a person. Once it is produced it is absorbed into the blood stream via the digestive track walls. If the walls are covered with residue from high levels of protein however, this process cannot be complete...
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if you detoxify and rebuild the tissue your body will produce vit b12 on it's own if you stay on a low fat raw vegan diet (info source from long time raw foodies and Dr Robert Morse). There are a lot of ways to make a raw food "junk" food too, especially if you use lot of nuts and dried fruits in your diet. Vit D3? yes, absolutely, if you don't get enough sun, you will need vit D3.
monika9v 3 months ago
so
you are recommending to buy the largest and most structurally complicated vitamin ...even though the only way it can be produced industrially is through bacterial fermentation-synthesis
whatsup with that
we can get the bacteria naturally if we grow our own food (or get a freind to grow for us) ...then harvest it ourselves without washing it with municiple water (rain is most efficent) ...plants 'n' shrooms grow in a symbiotic relationship with bacteria
naturally
for free
just a thought
gaiagale 5 months ago
Isnt it true that a lot of people who eat animal products still have low B12?
ZennLa13 7 months ago
@ZennLa13 B12 is a ridiculous assertion that you must eat meat or else...The reason we don't get it from our natural diet is because of over cleanliness of washing etc, but if you have this problem you could just supplement it. You don't have to eat meat to get B12, and the only reason meat has any at all is because Herbivores that get it from eating grass etc that have the bacterias. And there are many downfalls to eating meat, uric acid, high cholesterol, and other diseases to name a few...
royalblowno 6 months ago
I like this video much. This is very informational, and a keeper. I do not know about the other video's, I will have to check them out. Thank you for this video!
alimayrose 7 months ago
I think all your shows are good!
ishellreal 8 months ago
I don't believe that in order for humans to get an essential vitamin they must eat flesh or a man made pill.
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About 40% of people are B12 deficient and less than 5% of people are vegetarians. The problem is, as you age you loose your ability to absorb B12 from food. This is called atrophic gastritis which means the stomach secretes less hydrochloric acid, pepsin and intrinsic factor that are needed to absorb B12. This is very common in older people. All people should take B12 regardless of whether you are a vegan or meat eater. It really is a silly debate when people say vegans are B12 deficient.
SpaceWalkTraveller 8 months ago
"that was a mouthful" that's what she said.
XxgamerdavexX 8 months ago
still the same thoughts on types of b12 ?
thanks
VonLeachim 8 months ago
do you have an idea about where does the vitamine they put in soya drink or yougurt come from? Is that B12 usable for us?
animalfreedomnow 9 months ago
what exactly does your shirt say and where did u get it? :)
aRawLifestyle 9 months ago
portabello mushrooms have b12 dont they?
Liton777 10 months ago
@Liton777 depends where they grow ...in the wild most likely yes ...mushrooms are the fruit of the fungi ...fungi grows in a symbiotic relationship with bacteria naturally
gaiagale 5 months ago
yay hes a scientist
arnoldnavarro21 10 months ago
this guy just told me hydroxocobalamin was the best. he was kinda old and i think he was a doctor...
arnoldnavarro21 10 months ago
This video was usles! It did not tell me anything usfull, most people know this already, What I whant to know is difrent ways to get b12 without eating pills.
blackmeee 1 year ago
@blackmeee She made it pretty clear how she's getting b12 without 'eating pills'.
brianv00 11 months ago
What about yeast?
pcmiler2000 1 year ago
Kevin, I just picked up a "B-6 / Folic acid / B-12" under the tong supplement from Trader Joe's. It contains homocysteine. Will this be useful to take? If not, I've got my receipt. Thanks so much!!!
guitarlovenjc 1 year ago
i want to see some healthy ways to get hammerd like organic beers or salvia quids or something
drinkmoresoda 1 year ago
Spirulina has a lot of B12 and bee pollen has B12 in high amounts.also some vegetables and grains and other plant food has complex with vitamin B, which means traces of B12 will be there still.there is no needs to eat meat to get B12 thanks God.
redmoon787 1 year ago
@redmoon787 All analogues that must be converted to be used as true b12, the conversion rate is next to nothing. Just eat eggs, they are loaded with true B12, problem solved.
tickyul 10 months ago
how much B12 do we need for Weight Loss injections
pillsburyboy1 1 year ago
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Or you all can stop being pussies and eat a goddamn burger and get B-12 the way your supposed too.
CainmosniMirrored 1 year ago
@CainmosniMirrored I have always believed that when a person has nothing substantive or intelligent to say they use profanity.
Fitchpatrick99 1 year ago
My step dad was feeling tired & he has always been a super big time meat eater. He started taking b complex & feels a ton better....also the doctor's told my step dad to eat no meat! Meat bad.... : )
IampureSol 1 year ago
What are the best vegan time release multivitamins(with Methamphetamine) iron free?
IampureSol 1 year ago
so do you have any vegan vitamins that you would recommend? what about some that are low in iron or have none...I fear overdosing on iron.
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GreenSmoothieGuru 1 year ago
damn i bought cynocobalmin
screenflicker1 1 year ago
100% raw foodist for life .
novenyc 1 year ago 5
@novenyc How do u get your b12?
5tonyvvvv 1 month ago
@novenyc I cured all my health problems with a Raw food diet! I agree!
5tonyvvvv 1 month ago
The only reason why vegans and vegetarians are sometimes deficient in B12 is that almost all our soil is fu**ed up meaning we hardly have any good soil with good microorganisms left. Plus we're to hygienic about things which give us less B12 on our food. Gorillas for example eat the own poop sometime to get B12, though they do it out of instinct it's not something we would want to do ;-)
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GreenSmoothieGuru 1 year ago
@knuddel123 Eating our own crap, would get most people sick! Not a good idea and its tastes bad! our is soil is mineral depleted soil, I agree!
5tonyvvvv 1 month ago
I believe b12 is produced by bacteria in the intestines. I am not sure. Also, that it is recycled by the liver. It is possible b12 deficiency reflects gut flora imbalances. More research is needed. Anyone have insight on this.
apocalist420 1 year ago
So what would be some b12 recommendations for little kids?
akuadolce 1 year ago
I watched this video thinking I was going to disagree with what Kevin Gianni had to say, but i was wrong!!! It seems like a very honest answer on the subject. I'm glad he brought up the MMA levels and B12 issue because not a lot of people know about it.
To answer your question (a few years late lol).... I did like this episode!
mynameismike101 1 year ago
Have you heard about b12 lollipops?
revitaPOPTV 1 year ago
Kevin, a bit late here but thank you for putting this information up. I have been studing nutrition as of late and I came across B-12 and it's relation to raw-food. I was trying to figure out the solution and I found your vid.. Again, thank you.
CptUnknown 1 year ago
Primates, for example, are the closest relatives to humans. Apparently they're vegans, or herbivores. Where the hell do they get B12 from? Maybe Vitamin B12 is not a vitamin.
DerekChaunessey 1 year ago
Most Primates are actually omnivores. In most cases they get their B-12 from bugs that will produce the bacteria in their "guts".
CptUnknown 1 year ago
b12 is only really used for DNA and cell division perhaps they do not rely on b12 for their DNA processing
okeeno27 1 year ago
If meat contains B12, where do herbivore animals like cows and many fish get their B12 from?
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B12 is actually derived from bacteria that is found in meat and animal products. after all bacteria love the rotting flesh of animals! Although B12 is hypothisised to occur in Tempe and Natto(japenese fermented soybeans), they are shown not to b a significant source.
darkchocolate100 2 years ago
It is produced by a bacteria in their "guts".
CptUnknown 1 year ago
@DerekChaunessey they have an enzyme which during digesting b12 will produce,we humans don't have that enzyme,
falagh100 1 year ago
Well, I was just watching a video from Catch a Healthy Habit where some dude was saying his friends who grow their own food, been raw vegan for over 20 years showed up as B12 deficient in a lab test, BUT...no symptoms! This idea of B12 deficiency is looking more and more like a lie widely believed to be truth, and it was probably started by the meat industry! Isn't Tim Van Orden rawvegan, no supplements, kicks ass and takes names in mountain running? I don't think he takes ANY supplements!
worryphree 2 years ago
Hi Kevin :) I think that chlorella is better than spirulina but I thought that only synthetic supplements we're not bioavailable to the body and if the supplement came from a whole natural food source it is more absorbable (bioavailable)?
Mandy86lynn 2 years ago
the best B-12 i've ever tried was nanoplex b-12 - pretty instant energy shot there
theAKtor 2 years ago
Actually a "whole food" is a food that hasn't been processed. Hence there is "whole grain wheat" and "white flour".
TsurugiOni 2 years ago
you can survive for years with very high levels of methylmalonic acid in your system.
FluffyFeralMarmot 2 years ago
"For vegans and raw foodies we have to take a supplement."
Well its been over a month now as a raw vegan and I have never taken any B12 supplement in my life. I think the claim we need to take supplements is a farce. Oh but then someone claiming to be whatever vegan will say some crap suggesting the long term effects won't be noticeable immediately. Well whatever the case we'll see about that.
The guy in the video I think is a con man doing the same crap the others do.
ShroedingerWatcher 2 years ago
Meat, dairy, eggs, are not whole foods, they are processed foods. Unless you are advocating raw meat killed and eaten straight away?
This is also the same with cooking in general, grains, legumes especially. You cook it, it aint whole, its halved or lessened.
ShroedingerWatcher 2 years ago
Many people do eat raw eggs, and some of the people who post here claim to eat raw meat as well.
As to cooking a grain, in what way does that make it not "whole". "Whole" means that no part is missing. All of the studies have shown that brief cooking doesn't take anything away from vegetable foods. Even long-term boiling, doesn't take away any nutrients, as they are easily found in the water (in other words, if you make a soup, all of the phytonutrients (etc) are preserved in the brother).
Mentat1231 2 years ago
A whole food to me means the food has not been tampered with in any way.
Cooking does affect grains, for example how they would taste cooked compared to raw. Water or the moisture in grains can be lost, the "components" of the chosen grains are altered when cooking them.
As a result it is not an original grain it was when it was growing in the wild or wherever it was.
If it was it would still be difficult to eat, more harsh.
ShroedingerWatcher 2 years ago
"A food that has not been tampered with in any way"... Which of the following do you consider "tampering": Plucking a fruit from a tree, and peeling off its protective outer layer. Blending or mashing fresh vegetables with a machine (perhaps to make a salsa), rather than just mashing them with your teeth (much the same effect, btw). Letting legumes soak in water so that they soften.
Fruits taste different with peels, veggies taste difference unmixed, and legumes taste WAY different unsoaked...
Mentat1231 2 years ago
... The point is that, while it may have some moral/spiritual/ethichal/or other such cultural meaning to you for a plant to be as close to its natural state as possible, that doesn't have anything to do with what is right NUTRITIONALLY.
For example, herbivores eat leaves. They can't digest the cellulose themselves, but have bacteria in their gut to ALTER the nature of the plant, so that it is digestible to them.
We use hot water to do something similar.
Mentat1231 2 years ago
First of all I use no blender. Second if I could I'd let the fruit I eat ripen way before it gets picked meaning I let them drop first. And I always eat the skins of the fruit I eat, there is no waste.
Third, why one must compare humans to other animals to support their claims is a sign of weakness.
The human I do not believe is a herbivore and I have not eaten vegetables for around a month now.
You use hot water because the grain isn't natural. But the animal can do this on their own.
ShroedingerWatcher 2 years ago
The insides of the animals have a system designed for the task, one can only try to simulate that. But humans get the side effects of bloating from their way of cooking it instead.
I don't base my "beliefs" on morals, ethics or "spiritual". I base it on natural law.
ShroedingerWatcher 2 years ago
ShroedingerWatcher,
Not allowed to cite the references, but it actually happens to be true that the long-term effects take a while to notice. Pernicious anemia is one of these effects. Certain neurological disorders are also possible.
The truth is that there is no animal or plant that produces B12. It is ONLY produced by bacteria. If you are eating plants that you yourself grow, and are not overly cleaning these, you may be getting enough B12 anyway.
I personally wouldn't bet on that, though.
Mentat1231 2 years ago
I bet many who claimed to eat raw dairy and meat aren't what they seem.
The truth is claimed by many to be whatever they say it is. It turns out many are just going off what site(s) tell them. Even Poseidon500 is doing that from the sound of his voice (on another video) though its mainly his denials.
ShroedingerWatcher 2 years ago
As for the references, you too are going off what they tell you. But if you really wanted to show those claims why not try sending them via YouTube message?
ShroedingerWatcher 2 years ago
pause at 4:16 lol
hopesolofan18 2 years ago
Regarding your question of the day.... I prefer the videos that provide the most practical infomation. I love your Q & As. Thanks for the great shows.
llbcox 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
this is my favorite so far, kevin, because it is so informative.
donnabronson 2 years ago
Do you have a video on the grains you cook for your calories?
mywell 2 years ago
Kevin,
My question for you and everyone is why B12 supplements?
How did man do it before we had supplements? Doe's not make Sense.
Supplements are second to nature. Nature is FIRST
loveguitars 2 years ago
eating dirt?
typeclash 2 years ago
man did get them from animal flesh, eggs and dairy.
aleterra 2 years ago
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loveguitars 2 years ago
Wheatgrass has b12
Vitamin B12 0.30 mcg
vaticanantichrist 2 years ago 2
Jarrows 1000mcg
Methyl B-12 -100 lozenges
keeps me covered as a 85% raw foodie.
I sleep amazingly, brain function and energy rapidly improves.
mchertron 2 years ago
is that guy on speed or something ?
clickswitchh 2 years ago
@clickswitchh
eating live food filled with sun energy gives us amazing energy, whereas cooked food enervates us. think of falling asleep after a meal, or getting sleepy in the middle of the day. the opposite occurs with a live food lifestyle.
poppy90290 2 years ago
Not every sea buckthorn bush, therefore, is a supplier of vitamin B12! Very recent analyses of the freshly harvested raw material have again confirmed the high content of up to 60 µg vitamin B12 per 100 g sample.
knuddel123 2 years ago 2
Seabuckthorn contains plenty B12 in the skin. Nature has ALL the answers! Dr. Pandalis Research was the first to discover that sea buckthorn skins of certain biotopes contain a lot of vitamin B12: and, by means of the symbiosis of sea buckthorn with special bacteria, a vitamin B12 concentration occurs in the seed skin of sea buckthorn, which was previously only known in liver.
knuddel123 2 years ago
You do NOT need vitamin B12 supplements! Nature provides us with vitamin B12 in natural form.
knuddel123 2 years ago 2
I like all of your videos.
I have been a 100% raw food vegan for ten days now, and I feel heaps better than I was 2 weeks ago. My blood pressure has gone down too, it was 140/94 , it is now 138/80. My doctor was pleasantly surprised. I am giving it a 100 day trial, to test if I can do this fully. It takes planning and more organization, but I am feeling alot better.
GrahamAndFriends 2 years ago 8
You should check your blood pressure in the morning and in the evening to give you a more accurate information.
Airox2009 2 years ago
@GrahamAndFriends How did that trial work out?
fxiku 9 months ago
Meat doesn't automatically mean you'll have enough b12. I used to eat lots of meat & dairy, and still had b12defiency, and so did my twinsister. I was put on b12pills, and sister got shots. Neither of us noticed a difference when our b12levels went up.
Tornerose83 2 years ago 2
FEEDBACK: I love it all! Especially the "In The Kitchen" episodes!! Thanks for doing your thing! You have helped me to transition to raw! Keep doing what you do!! ; )
coreyclaire79 2 years ago
My Dr. was in shock, commenting, my B12 "is higher than he can get people on INJECTIONS!
Truly, when you cleanse and get into your body the appropriate nutrition , it corrects and absorbs optimally.
I'm Cleaner and Stronger. This B12 thingie is pretty important!
LindasHere55 2 years ago
Oysters are a good source for Vitamin B12, also meat, fish, poultry, shellfish, milk, cheese, & eggs. You don't need to eat very much of those to get a sufficient amount of Vitamin B12. The adult RDA is .002 mg, two-millionths of a gram.
babycakes0705 2 years ago
Do you think raw foodists 200 years ago would of given themselves b12 injections?
LightTruthLove 2 years ago
my thoughts exactly.
they claim it stays in the body for 20 years. sounds like a toxin not a "vitamin" to me. I don't buy the B12 thing at all.
budgallant 2 years ago 3
How can you not buy it at all? that just seems like blind ignorance to me.
jjay75 2 years ago
burden of proof is on the claimant.
I don't think there is any evidence, so I don't believe the claims. It's really as simple as that.
But I can tell you that the "vitamin B12" supplements commonly pushed on vegetarians contain cyanide. I make it a habit not to believe cyanide is good for me, just as I do not believe mercury improves children's intelligence despite media reports.
budgallant 2 years ago 3
There's vast amounts of evidence that B12 deficiency causes problems. If there is cyanide in them then it will be a negligible amount. I think you lack an understanding of basic science.
jjay75 2 years ago
I think you lack an understanding is basic logic, but since you purport to be educated on the subject, I would gladly hear your evidence, and also a technical explanation of how "B12 deficiency" is tested for.
budgallant 2 years ago 2
@budgallant i've been feeding my son a vegan diet thinking spirulina was good enough for b12.... well he has aenemia now. so you really think b12 is a toxin??
jtreehugger 1 year ago
I have a feelin', 200 years ago their bodies were full of nutrient and absorbing what it needed. None of this toxic overload and folks suffering from malnutrition. We're really in a sad state today, aren't we.
LindasHere55 2 years ago
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kirrabeachbum 2 years ago
pork chops rule
midnighttoker7772200 2 years ago
good informative video
mywords4u 2 years ago
raw diet and raw eggs? i have nt heard anyone bring this up....the raw food diet doesnt have to be an extension of the vegan diet...if eggs provide more nutrients, vital vitamins and better fats when eaten raw, whats the problem? i add 2 to smoothies everyday no B12 worries for me.
topstot 2 years ago
I suppose it depends on where you get your eggs. If they come from a typical factory farm, they could be infected with salmonella. If you can buy local, organic eggs from a farmer you know, then go for it.
dlightseer 2 years ago
@topstot cholesterol? Read The China Study
GreenSmoothieGuru 1 year ago
One word..........MARMITE!!!
grnlfe01 3 years ago
hi is kefir a good source of vit b12,and what is derry.thanks
capreolus4 3 years ago
>is kefir a good source of vit b12
Yuck. But it probably does have b12 because it is a dairy product.
>what is derry
Probably dairy.
TheStrangeRanger 3 years ago
This guy is totally an imposter. Please ignore this fool.
bubbleandpin 3 years ago
i can't imagine who would take risks with this critical nutrient regardless of their ideology when, for about $10/month you can be assured you're not endangering your neurological health. with all the superfoods and other stuff people spend good money on, it boggles my mind that we even debate this one. this is the only supplement i'll never give up.
trecr 3 years ago
My thoughts exactly.
garybooker 3 years ago
everyone needs b12 supplements, meat eaters especially. if you think you're not deficient based on basic bloodwork you're mistaken, they only show the presence of b12 markers, which remain in antibiotic-ridden farmed, frozen cooked meat. b12 is a probiotic and won't survive intact in the modern food chain, and if the marker is present the body won't even attempt to culture is (assuming it still can). do urine mma or white blood cell test and find a bacterial form of b12 regardless of your diet.
trecr 3 years ago
I have been vegan for over 15 years and have taken a commercial grade B12 supplement less than 10 times in all of those years...I have no deficiency of B12 and I do eat Earthrise spirulina every day. I also eat organic food, 50% raw and don't wash it. Don't worry, that causes deficiencies.
bubbleandpin 3 years ago 2
Please do not play with vitamin B12. The warning signs of vitamin B12 deficiency are not always immediate, because the damage to the nervous system caused by the deficiency are small and gradual. If you are a vegan, then please take a supplement and don't play with this.
garybooker 3 years ago
this is amazing. you answered my major questions. do you know of any liposomal methylcobalamin b12 sources? sprays? Thanks!
sklikizos 3 years ago
People who eat everyday and it's not junk food, have no danger of what so ever to have deficiency on B12 vitamin.
Body creates this vitamin itself.
Meat eaters have some problems because meat disrupts this process.
bujinkanatori 3 years ago
I have never read anything scientific proof for this. Human body does create B12 but too low in the intestine so the vitamin cannot be absorbed. The only way to get B12 "naturally" is from uncooked organic vegetables that haven't been rigorously washed so the B12-bacteria from the soil still "sits" on the produce (industrial farming has done this impossible).
Like he said, you definitely should test your levels if you don't eat animal or enriched products or B12-supplements just to be sure.
Luukuu 3 years ago
@Luukuu ...this makes sense to me " The only way to get B12 "naturally" is from uncooked organic vegetables that haven't been rigorously washed so the B12-bacteria from the soil still "sits" on the produce"
thank-you for sharing this information
gaiagale 5 months ago
my sister said the toilet thing is about gravitational pull. one side pulls one way and the people on the other side of the hemisphere pull the other.
cherryberryblossom 3 years ago
theres mushrooms w/b12,alsonutritional yeast,if you garden your own food,grow organic,andspend time with your plants,be barefoot,use your barehands when working w/them,breathe on them,anything to give the plant information about you,put seeds in your mouth before planting,plants even respond to thought,read the secret life of plants for proof,if your a sceptic,doing these thing will tell the plant exactly what you need and make fruits,designed just for you,this will cure anything!just try it.
uriel112358 3 years ago
@uriel112358 thank-you for sharing your insight ...reading your comment resonated profoundly inside of me ...I so agree... we have everything we need in our own back yard if we just let the earth feel us the plants will come ...they may already be there ...I'm stopping commenting to reread and savour...
respect
gaiagale 5 months ago
can vegans get b12 from drinking their own urine? not kidding.
bbbbbbblob 3 years ago
i love all you guys shows, you and your wife work so well together, i love how she laughs at you, she has an amazing smile. i learn alot from your shows, keep filming..:)
cherryberryblossom 3 years ago
spirulina is full of b12!!!!!!!!!!!! same wild algae green!!! anyway common sense works better!!!
mokugin81 3 years ago
There are traces of measurable vitamin B12 but there are no evidence that human body cam actually ABSORB it.
Luukuu 3 years ago
And besides, I never take "arguments" seriously. I just live and enjoy life, and not give a crap what any "anti-veg anti-fruitarian" says. Nor allowing any fear-mongering to pin my morale down.
So whether my "horrbible arguments" are too much, just ignore and live on if it's too much to read.
Besides, I am myself. No one is aware of who I am, and I don't need any seatbelts if I figure other means of healthy living by my senses, without buying into any fear-mongering.
wodaospirit 3 years ago
I like all your videos. :)
c8k3 3 years ago
I never even worry about B12 one bit. It's almost like the whole "protein" propaganda that folks try to scare us with. First the "protein" worship, now the B12 worship from "official sources," which I find a lot of crap. To those of you who go the vegan path, there's seriously nothing to worry about. Being conformed against your own will, by not going by instincts, really triggers an ailment at least for me.
Hence I don't give a crap what any source say. Been abstaining animal products no prob.
wodaospirit 3 years ago
This is a horrible argument. It's really no different than saying "I don't wear my seatbelt, and I haven't died yet, so nobody should worry about wearing a seatbelt." Everyone, bury your head in the sand, woda says it's all propaganda. Or.. you could look at the research and make an informed decision.
eniuquine 3 years ago
I already have made my informed decision. I live by instinct and go with my senses. Not STEREOTYPICAL perceptions of ANYONE else.
Sure the info and stuff is all nice, but seriously, the "info and stuff" turns into crap when people shove them in my face.
So tell me, WHAT info should I trust? I ain't going to even waste my time with such info once I already have found answers by other solitary means.
wodaospirit 3 years ago
experts lied about protein for years why wouldn't they lie about b12
VEGAN0011 3 years ago
There is no "protein myth." The need for protein is a very serious reality, and so is the need for vitamin B12. I encourage you with all sincerety to please not play with these nutrients.
garybooker 3 years ago
You are using fear tactics here...I don't get you at all. The protein requirements were tested on rats, not humans, rats are omnivorous and need 200 times the protein compared to us. If you're concerned about protein eat raw food. The enzymes are protein. Every living thing is composed of proteins. Just eat whole food when you're hungry and you'll be fine..You don't even need beans! *Vegan for over 15 years and counting!!
bubbleandpin 3 years ago 2
1) You should subscribe to the American Journal of Clinical nutrition, where there are plenty of clinical trials with humans of various ethnicities to understand protein requirements.
2) A complete protein is a protein that contains most or all of the essential amino acids that cannot be produced by the human body. Plant proteins are not complete proteins. You will not find tryptophan, leucine, lysine, isoleucine, and other essential AA's in plant protein.
garybooker 3 years ago
You are grossly misinformed and it's sad to see people buying into your foolishness. All of the proteins you have listed not existing in plants, do in fact exist in plants..Please GET INFORMED! And everyone else too :)
bubbleandpin 3 years ago 2
They do not exist in vegtables and they do not exist in fruit. If you do not consume meat, then you must consume beans or legumes. If your information does not come from a biology book, written by a professor that has produced peer-reviewed work, then don't tell people to get informed. YOU get informed.
garybooker 3 years ago
AGAIN THAT IS AN OUT OF DATE LIE
VEGAN0011 3 years ago
Then roll up your sleeves and do the work to prove it. Conduct clinical trials and submit your work to journals. This is how you establish fact. Science is a process where truth is established by conducting experiments to achieve results that can be duplicated by someone else. The science of omnivorous human nutrition is established. If you want to disprove it, then get busy or be quiet.
garybooker 3 years ago
what is this a reply to ,the comments are going in the wrong place
VEGAN0011 3 years ago
>AGAIN THAT IS AN OUT OF DATE LIE
Are you talking about protein? If so then why is it that current research makes the claim that mixing beans and bread creates a complete protein? I can locate this in several recent studies. What makes you think it's not true?
TheStrangeRanger 3 years ago
you miss read the comment
VEGAN0011 3 years ago
>you miss read the comment
OK. Sorry.
TheStrangeRanger 3 years ago
its ok ,its because the comments are been put in the wrong order
VEGAN0011 3 years ago
the comment was not to this video but to another comment ,the comments are not been posted in order, which makes it hard for some to follow
VEGAN0011 3 years ago
did you ever go to school stop telling lies
VEGAN0011 3 years ago
You will not find tryptophan, leucine, lysine, isoleucine, and other essential AA's in plant protein. THAT IS A LIE
VEGAN0011 3 years ago
@VEGAN0011 It's in spinach and probably many other greens.
GreenSmoothieGuru 1 year ago
There is no "protein myth." The need for protein is a very serious reality, and so is the need for vitamin B12. I encourage you with all sincerety to please not play with these nutrients
no protein myth what country are you in , lies have and still are told about about protein in the uk
VEGAN0011 3 years ago
This a Lie There is no "protein myth." The need for protein is a very serious reality, and so is the need for vitamin B12. I encourage you with all sincerety to please not play with these nutrients
VEGAN0011 3 years ago
I agree with not worrying..as long as you are eating whole organic produce. I have taken the B12 supplement maybe a handful of times in the 15 years I've been vegan and I had my blood and urine tested since I recently had a baby and I checked out stellar. I also eat organic produce and rarely rinse..the bacteria is on fresh produce. If you find organic dirt, you find B12.
bubbleandpin 3 years ago
I'm going to post this on a my vegan facebook group.
MrsMaggie 3 years ago
I like in the kitchen and q&a
nintrovert 3 years ago
i enjoy the kitchen segments. i'm not that into fitness friday. :]
rawkonraw 3 years ago 2
I like fitness fridays!
SuaRezzz 3 years ago
where did you say you can send your pee for testing online? i didn't see a link in your notes. thanks
thrivesurvive 3 years ago
thank you for the info about b12. i got a blood test but still haven't been able to get a hold of my dr to get the results, and I heard Cousins saying urine tests are more accurate so I will take your advice and have one done.
thrivesurvive 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
you're fucking irritating, bro.
take a chill pill.
kevlarthehorribleone 3 years ago
I take the Jarrow Formulas, "Methyl B-12" Lozenges (methylcobalamin) twice a week. Great stuff but a little
pricey though. Well worth it, though.
Soulnik 3 years ago
I really don't know if any of the shows should go. Since you are so enthusiastic all the time any topic is more fun. Keep up the great work, thanks, Laura
mehealthyme 3 years ago
Is nutritional yeast a good source of B12? I buy it in bulk and don't know if it has the methyl compound you have discussed, but it is fortified with B12.
falafelstand 3 years ago
I like all of them! The variety is great. Your enthusiasm and energy make each episode fun to watch, and the info is always interesting. I like the shirt you're wearing in this one :)
RedPaperShoes 3 years ago
i like the in the kitchen, and i like the q&a... i'd love for you to interview interesting people in the raw food or motivational areas... your the bomb kev.. keep it up
cupies 3 years ago