Turbo blown failure Detroit Diesel Series 60 12.7 MCI BUS 102EL3

[walkermowers1]

he crashed into the wall

[StingrayInYourBath]

Did the engine run away?

[MovieInventor]

why is the engine doing this?

[freightlinerization]

To FFisDEAD...just had a 2010 cummins ISB runaway, backwards on me...if you have enough oil in the intake...it will keep going, amd going,and going

[QiZzio]

wtf happened on the end?

[bikr1975]

wow, that sucks, what a way to ruin your bus tour huh? too bad there isnt a switch to fix this problem in case of an event like this. a switch that would put the engine in a mode so its burning a leaner fuel mixture = less smoke :(

[flamingaxe791]

When my evo 3 16g blee the ammount of smoke was unreal

[FFisDEAD]

Not possible for anything with EDC to run backwards. 

[01fastrace]

You can see a stream of oil on the road.

[01fastrace]

The driver of the bus did the right thing by getting all of his passengers off the bus. Safety is always first. Hind sight is always 20/20. The driver did the right thing. If my kids were on that bus I would of wanted them off as well.

[TheHanswurst95]

Ah, you drive Mercedes!

[laikros]

If you say the turbo gone dead so what you see is burning oil in the mufler ,leaking though the turbo.

[jonny2k100]

@davepaula123. Sometimes you can't shut the engine down, we had a Mercedes van, yes I know very different to a Detroit Diesel but please bear with me. Anyway the turbo blew on our van and we pulled over and even when turning the key to to turn off the engine it wouldn't shut down, it was feeding on the oil, So we had to put it into top gear and stall it. After the smoke cleared oil was dripping out of the exhaust. Maybe the driver couldn't turn off the engine because it was feeding on the oil?

[joby613]

it breaks my heart, seeing an engine in need of help.

[epicutubemembername]

1:15 Roadrunner ?

[healedmichael]

if his turbo blown up he should've shut it down not keep the motor running

[codedily]

Did the car the hit the card rail

[MclarenGTU]

6v-72 Detroit blown turbo

[JOJOBANANAZ1]

UNBURNT DIESEL is WHITE SMOKE, and it's coming out exhaust so engine is NOT RUNNING BACKWARDS. if too much fuel was being injected it would give BLACK SMOKE and engine would SCREAM. - this engine has had a loss of compression in several cylinders but NOT PISTON/BORE DAMAGE as oil burns BLUE. most likely HEAD GASKET FAILURE from coming up a hill or similar.

[monikhushalpuri]

DON`T TELL AL GORE! :D

[SupahEXPE00]

If I was the driver I'd Rev the engine and still go forward

[Vendetto1988]

@SupahEXPE00 Me too ( LMAO ) hahahahaha

[NOLIMIT69NOLIMIT2000]

Motor switched direction from stupidity on the drivers part. Enough said.

[optionen100]

1:34

FAIL XD

[Runkleforskin]

you are a faggot ... haha HONK HONK git outta my way!! I gotta get home and douche my asshole for my boyfriend or he will be pissed!! and then piss in my ass!! YOU HOMO

[CivSi02]

Hmmm...ok as a motorcoach operator myself, I have just a few things.  Studpuppy, you're absolutely right. And secondly, whoever said that Detroits have common turbo failure issues is wrong. Detroit doesn't make those turbos. Theyre either made by Garrett or Holset. Holset on the newer ones, correct me if I'm wrong. Anyone who wants to talk shit behind a computer screen obviously doesn't have the fortitude to run with the big dogs. So those of you who want to say we're wrong, probably shou

[4106032]

Your ALL BLOWING SMOKE! A 60 Series Detroit is a 4 Stroke NOT a 2 Stroke....4 Stroke Can Not run backwards...Some Turbos are cooled with Engine Coolant...When the Turbo Blew up, it Might of Damaged the Turbo's Housing causing the Coolant to get into the Intake....Yes, a Diesel can run on it's own oil if it is leaking into the Intake from the Damaged Turbo!

[ANTIFASHISTA1]

what happend at the end?

[hammerogod]

@ANTIFASHISTA1

..."what happend at the end?"...

Rick and Ilsa part after a brief rememberance of their time in Paris.

Rick compels Ilsa to leave with her husband.

Inspector Renault holds a gun on Major Strasser to prevent him from stopping Ilsa.

Elsa joins her husband, Victor Laszlo, on the plane.

The plane flys off.

Major Strasser is shot by Rick to prevent him from having the plane shot down.

Rick and Inspector Renault walk away and join the French Resistance.

[ANTIFASHISTA1]

@hammerogod yeah for shure

[MrAlton30]

at the end i almost thought u hit the wall

[starr101010]

what causes engines to run away

[hammerogod]

@starr101010

Bitterness and Heartache

[muderxtreme09]

was that the one that stopped up traffic in the hrbt awhile back? i got stuck in the tunnel behind it

[SilentServiceCode]

your horn sucks and you should never honk it again

[Iam18yearsolddddd]

wtf? did you hit the guardrail?

[DELROYJOHNSON73B]

What's going down there?

[viperz888]

fake

[studpuppy69]

@winston393 Are you retarded? You weren't there. He didn't brake torque it, he didn't start the engine and why would he brake torque it? Why would it be sucking in anti-freeze and where would it be sucking in anti-freeze from? Read the description and stop with your retarded scenarios of what you think happened when you weren't there, it tells you exactly what happened in the description! Explain your position and answer my questions.

[winston393]

@studpuppy69 LOL I was just talking out my ass just trying to get someone fired up. After reading some of the comments I just thought I would add to the dumbassness lol.

[shucklers123]

@winston393 You are completely retarded...The smoke color has nothing to do with it the TURBO has blown...Has nothing to do with antifreeze. So the driver really quick rewired the starter to turn the eng backwards Really?

[B16BBOB]

@winston393 like the guy says its a blown turbo u can see motor is running fine just extremely rich due to the fact that the engine is still adding the extra fuel needed for boost.

[winston393]

@B16BBOB NO SHIT I WAS TALKING OUT MY ASS

[deztructo123]

@winston393 your a complete retard who has no idea what your talking about

[winston393]

@deztructo123  Thank you

[jonny2k100]

I've seen a hell of a lot more smoke from a van with a blown turbo. The turbo has obviously failed but I don't think it has blown.

[alexander1485]

why didn't they just turn it off?

[XTheDarkRonX]

@alexander1485

Its a Diesel xD !

[SyncMaster190T]

@alexander1485 does not work anymore. the oil keeps the engine running

[torukmakto4]

Looks to have flamed a turbo seal and/or bearing (likely bearing, or maybe even broken shaft, since a boom was heard). The smoke is from oil entering the exhaust side and burning. If it was leaking to the compressor (intake) side and being ingested by the engine it might have run away. Seen quite a few modern truck engines lose turbos on the road with predictable results.

[jrkepler]

Well its not like the old days if a turbo blows on most modern engines they become so oxygen starved that they can't run away they just sputter helplessly and die. A turbo letting go is a somewhat common failure. Would be a nightmare to fix on a bus. As for it running backward I can't see how, not on a series 60. There were some old marine diesel engines that could run backwards, but they were designed to.

[pnut2147]

It's not true that only 2 stroke engine's will run backward's. I had a 3406bmodel cat engine that would also do that if you went to bogg her down and she got to the point that she would be ready to stall out and run backward's.

[studpuppy69]

@pnut2147 I agree, I'm sure its possible the 3406B is mechanical, correct? No doubt, a 2 stroke isn't the only engine that can run backwards. How ever, the Series 60 in this bus did not run away. Is it even possible for an electronic engine to run backwards, since the ECU controls fuel? I posted a video response, you can see it by scrolling or looking in my channel. The point was, present facts and attempt to be civilized in doing so. I ask questions and welcome dissent and facts/opinions.

[alexoprel]

@studpuppy69 yes it is possible making a diesel engine run backwards :) it was a Kia dohc td and the cam pulleys were 180 degrees off as it made the intake the exhaust, (lol) and the exhaust was turned into the intake. so yes its possible, only the turbo and airfilter dont like it too much lol xD greetz

[cobra96svt570]

@studpuppy69 I agree, If its a 60 series, and has a ECU, I highly doubt it could run backwards. The old 2-stroke detroits can run backwards. I was only 7 years old when i drove my first 6-71 in a 72' WHITE constructor tandem flatbed, two quad boxes. I was driving it around my dads lumber yard, and I slammed the airbrakes on w/out pushin in the clutch, it bucked to a stop and started blowin smoke out the Intake, and you could hear the stack sucking air.My dad yells JUMP! ITS GONNA BLOW! (kidding)

[Tr2u1ck]

@studpuppy69 the 3406A and 3406B are mechanical

[B16BBOB]

@pnut2147 from my experiance if u run a four stroke engine backwards you can severly hurt the engines timing

[sassj1990]

What did you fuckin crash at the end!!??? hahahaha jk man

[Arnochuatsneguer]

hahaha ja passei por isso um dia de manha quando estava indo p/ a escola estourou a turbina de um Mercedes-Benz OF-1418 deu um estouro bem forte e ja fumaciou tudo.. haha foi bem louco.. hehe =) abraço povo

[justanamelol6969]

i am not arguing but a engine can start backwards it only can happen too 2 strokes tho my dirt bike and sled have done it and old 2 stroke detroit diesel can do it but correct me if i am wrong but they do not make 2 stroke diesel's any more and yes the smoke will come out of the exhaust lol i found that funny when i read that lol 

[studpuppy69]

@justanamelol6969 You are correct, they do not make 2 strokes any more and most were mechanical engines. The engine in the bus is a 4 stroke Series 60. How will smoke come out of the exhaust? If the engine is running backwards? I think only the two stroke Detroits, they only have exhaust valves. The air comes in from the liners, when the piston goes all the way down the holes are exposed and let air in. I'm not sure. I've never seen an engine run backwards, so honestly I really don't know.

[studpuppy69]

@justanamelol6969 *continued* If an engine runs the right way, smoke comes from exhaust, Start it backward, the exhaust sucks in fresh air and the exhaust goes out the intake. That's my theory, I could be wrong. I can assure you, the bus did not run away or start backward. The engine was running when the turbo blew, the driver stopped, after he got the passengers off he shut the bus off and a tow truck picked it up and the turbo was repaired. They never tried to restart it, there was no need.

[justanamelol6969]

@studpuppy69 the engine runs completly fine backward if u want to see a 2 stroke engine run backwards find a new 2 stroke sled with reverse, my ski doo is a 05 800 and the reverse starts the engine backwards. You are righ this engine has not started in reverse it is the turbo i was just informing you that a engine can start in reverse it usually is a problem with the starter, but as i stated before it can only happen too 2 strokes!

[studpuppy69]

@justanamelol6969 Two stroke gas and two stroke diesels are entirely different they may respond much differently depending on who made the engine.

[btownmxer]

@justanamelol6969 Yes a two stroke detroit can run backwards. Only a two stroke.

[jeepscometrue]

where was this filmed in mobile alabama

oh never mind wrong place



[jeepscometrue]

where was this filmed in mobile alabama



[TRuEGaMingPS3]

@COSANOSTRA2OO8 the engine started in reverse dumbass he does shut it off but its sucking oil into the turbo charger

[studpuppy69]

@TRuEGaMingPS3 You stupid cunt the engine does not start in reverse! Read the fucking description!

[TRuEGaMingPS3]

@studpuppy69 YOUR FUCKING DUMB THE GUY WHO POSTED THIS DOESINT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED YOU MISS INFORMED JACKASS THE ENGINE STARTED IN REVERSE ITS SUCKING OIL AND THERES NO WAY TO SHUT IT OFF YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT ENGINES

[studpuppy69]

@TRuEGaMingPS3 You're are the stupidest cunt to troll so far. How did the engine start backward? Did the starter spin backward? You weren't there, you don't know. If there is no way to shut if off, why did the driver shut the engine off? You weren't there, you are clueless. I want you to explain step by step what happened, enlighten me oh wise one. You such a cunt, you realize if the engine was running backwards smoke would not be coming out of the exhaust?

[TRuEGaMingPS3]

@studpuppy69 kid stop crying you know nothing about engines obviously so im not bothering to explain comlicated things to a dumb little kid who isint gona understand what im saying anyway it would be like trying to teach my dog how to speak english go do some research dumbass

[TRuEGaMingPS3]

@studpuppy69 Detroit diesels are know for this problem because Detroits suck ass

[studpuppy69]

@TRuEGaMingPS3 See my video response.

[Donner313]

Bist du da am ende nochmal gegen die Wand gefahren? xDD

[Chuckjagermeister]

Thankfully it wasn't a bus filled with "special" ppl.

[nhtm155]

@massivebig1 you can here the engine shutting down as he passes it in the car, then a guy appears to exit the bus, so....

[snapdragon69]

@COSANOSTRA2OO8 God you're thick as pudding!

[yukSchmuck]

Woah, man! not sure what I'd do in this sitch. What's the text book answer?

[JtsGreene]

@massivebig1 That's what you call a diesel engine running with a blown turbo, not running on oil....... The oil is being burnt in the turbo and not dragged into the engine, which is what will happen 99 times out of 100 when a turbo blows.

[studpuppy69]

@massivebig1 Either you mis-understood or your mentally defective. The engine did NOT run away. I've updated everything because people just don't seem to get it. With comments, annotations and description how can you not understand the concept of "Did Not Run Away?" Your comment is partially right. Yes oil can feed the engine and NO this engine was not running on oil!

[acer53152]

jechali toyotą avensis :D

[auaiao9]

I would've gotten out of it too.

[rkj4107]

Nice! A runaway engine!

[studpuppy69]

@rkj4107 Surely you must be retarded.

[donnactrc]

I have a Caterpillar 3406B mechanically injected engine in my truck and it has run backwards a couple of times-not long since you just turn it off and restart. It happens if you have a heavy load and pop the clutch and release it just right the engine will rock backwards and continue to run. Not good. This is just a blown turbo in this video

[studpuppy69]

@donnactrc You did say yours was mechanically controlled. Not sure, but I do not believe an electronic engine can run backward. The 3406B is a 4 stroke engine, correct?

[superbeeblaze]

LOL for a second i though you hit the gaurdrail at the end HAHAH

[studpuppy69]

@superbeeblaze It's an optical illusion. But yes it does. :) And no I didn't. My camera fell over.

[kx85kid12]

@studpuppy69 you definitely did hit that guardrail lol

[gm16v149]

That happened to me when the intake side of the turbo shattered on my CAT 3408. Heaps of white smoke from overfuelling (air/fuel ratio kaput). Complete loss of power. Loud bang like a blown tyre. Aluminium all thru the aftercooler. Could stop the engine OK though. Just cleaned the valley and aftercooler, new turbo, away we went.

One reason a turbo can go is if there is an air leak on the cold side, causes the turbo to over-rev. Maybe that's what happened in the vid.

[Lacanzonedelpadre]

why the driver doesn't shut down the engine?

[shinobistyle86]

@Lacanzonedelpadre if the turbo is blown the engine can run on its own oil until oil runs out or engine blows

if the bus was munual the driver could put her in top gear and stall it

[studpuppy69]

@shinobistyle86 The engine did not run away, he did not shut the engine off when he stopped because he thought the bus was on fire. Even though I made an annotation and have responded to comments, people still ask. This video is not titled "RUN AWAY DIESEL."

[Lacanzonedelpadre]

@shinobistyle86 What you say is meaningless

[vinnie01]

isnt that engine running away??

[studpuppy69]

@stingraystud I fail to see any humor in your comment.

[GTASAmovies1]

No one thought about turning the engine off?

[atomicfire001]

@GTASAmovies1 often due to a turbo failure you can't shut off the engine. Diesel engines don't have a spark plug or a throttle plate. In this case, the engine was probably running off of the leaking oil from the blown turbo. The only way to shut it off is to wait until all the oil is burned off.

[frannafour]

used 2 work at detroit seen heaps of turbos blown its no big deal just shut the thing off asap and start replacing shit

[bobcats330]

i've seen a semi that blew its turbo,i knew what it was, the front right corner of the trailer was completely covered in black oil running down the side and front. i thought it was kinda cool to see that but felt bad for the guy.

[sideslide23]

thats why it is so important to perform a pre trip inspection, not only to make shure your bus is safe to drive but you check form bomb that terroist might have plant onboard, I believe this was the turbo fire which resulted this. otherwise it could be short circuit, parking Brake drag and other stuff, and remember, If you can't do it safely, Don't do it.

[studpuppy69]

@sideslide23 Where did you come up with this stuff? If you read the TITLE, even progressed further to the description its a TURBO failure. There was no fire. How could a pretrip prevent a turbo failure? Terrorists don't put bombs on charter buses. Don't you see all the gray smoke emitting from the exhaust? Do you see flames? Black smoke?

[sideslide23]

@studpuppy69 Greyhound Study Guild on the course Evacuation and Fire Extinguishers, and it even shows the word P.A.S.S. for fire Extingwuisher it means Pull, Aim, Spray, and Sweep. this course will focus on bus fire prevention and evacuation if necessary.

[frannafour]

@sideslide23 smoke comin from the exhaust its a turbo

[hybrid25us]

I was just a service tech back then, but when you see a 30+yr veteran run away from a truck you run with him. lol

[studpuppy69]

@hybrid25us Slow it down with the jake lmao! I've seen a bus and driven a truck with a S60 and Marine ECM, holy shiz I think its 2,350 or 2,400 governed RPM and that took off like a rocket, no turbo delay at all!

[scott93257]

@hybrid25us

yeah no doubt...At that high of an RPM for an engine not designed to get above 2400 or so, yeah, stuff starts flying off.... I've heard of of flywheels coming off and going through solid concrete walls.....

[hybrid25us]

I've personally seen a Detroit Series 60 engine run away at the shop i work at. We hooked the engine to a diagnostic machine and the engine was turning close to 4800 rpm's before the key was turned off, thing is the rpm's kept climbing after the key was turned off so no telling how many rpm's it was turning. The engine still ran but had to be rebuilt. Most awesome thing i ever heard a diesel engine do.

[studpuppy69]

@hybrid25us How did you stop the engine? What caused it to run away what were you doing/they doing at the time? Why was it in the shop? Would love to know more, thanks. PS what year was the S60 in that unit?

[hybrid25us]

@studpuppy69 I don't recall what yr the series 60 was, it was a few yrs ago. The unit was in the shop for a blown turbo. A few techs and the service manager inspected the CAC and concluded it did not need to be sent out for cleaning.

[hybrid25us]

@studpuppy69 My buddy, "unfortunately" was tasked with replacing the turbo. He told the service manager the CAC needed cleaning. Our fearless leader told him to just replace the turbo. So turbo was replaced, he backed it out o f the shop, he pressed the pedal slightly when it just took off.

[hybrid25us]

@studpuppy69 As soon as he noticed it he turned the key off and took off running. lol. Engine was turning so fast it locked up the fan hub, water pump was turning so fast it blew the radiator hose off. We are pretty sure once it used up all the oil that was in th CAC is why it turned off. Kind of funny how a turbo replacement can call for an engine rebuild huh?

[studpuppy69]

@hybrid25us lol thats funny. I've never seen it happen. Scary stuff I bet especially if it comes apart. 

[TestECull]

@hybrid25us Diesel engines will very happily run on their own lubricating oil, and a turbo failure is a great way to allow them to do so.

[PinePowerLI]

Surprised they had everyone get off the bus on that bridge. They dont allow that on the NJTP. With 9910 the driver shut the engine off and the smoke stopped. Scary if you dont know what it is. I dont blame those ppl for getting off that bus.

[studpuppy69]

@PinePowerLI He thought the bus was on fire, the passengers thought the same. The whole interior filled with smoke. I started recording about 15 seconds after it blew, I could NOT see 3 feet infront of me the smoke was so thick. Passer-byers called 911, didn't take long for the sheriff and fire trucks to roll in. Driver did a great job getting everyone off of the bus under circumstances. Loud boom and smoke. It was a very loud boom I heard from my car with windows rolled up.

[PinePowerLI]

@studpuppy69 Yeah I got ya, thats what I thought when it happened to me on 9910 too. Blown turbos are definately scary!

[studpuppy69]

@PinePowerLI Also, there is a fire hazard notice the oil dripping out, the oil can it the exhaust and start a fire.

[Da9eI]

Blown turbo\turbo seals can be quite dangerous on diesels if to much oil is beeing sucked into the engine\combustion chamber. This will fuel the engine and keep it running on high rpm, it is possible to stop if it has a clutch based (manual) gearbox. If not, it will keep running until all the motor oil has been used up, usually resulting in mechanincal failure. Ending was quite unexpected :)

[lane83180]

imagine a diesel the size of an f250 running away

[trailways7]

@Da9eI That could explain why there is so much smoke coming out of the exhaust since the bus was not moving. Based on thinking that there could be a manual transmission, this bus could be equipped with ZF Astronic 12-speed transmission.

[trailways7]

@Da9eI That could explain why there is so much smoke coming out of the exhaust since the bus was not moving. Based on thinking that there could be a manual transmission, this bus could be equipped with ZF Astronic 12-speed transmission, otherwise a Allison B500.

[studpuppy69]

@trailways7 It's an Allison.

[trailways7]

@studpuppy69 yeah if it was not a ZF then a Allison, thanks! BTW I will taking a Truck and Coach Tech. Program this Fall, just trying to familiarize myself with engine problems as these types of problems will be simulated in class.

[7477238]

@Da9eI Is that what the term "Runaway Diesel" means. I've heard about it before but never really looked into it.

[studpuppy69]

@7477238 The engine did not run away in this video. Runaway normally applies to 2 stroke engines, for example propane getting sucked into intake can cause a runaway, a supercharger sealed giving out can allow oil to get sucked in and run away, other examples the governor getting stuck(?) and exceeding safe RPM level so you can run away with diesel or oil. Don't know all the specific's hope that gives you some insight.

[ObseleteSilence]

wow this bus looked fairly new i wouldn't have expected this on these newer ones. At first i thought you were just passing to leave, but you pulled over right? it would have been cool if everything was recorded. What happened though?

[studpuppy69]

@ObseleteSilence Read description. Following behind it without warning a loud boom followed by smoke.