Certain characters don't transition flawlessly from airborne to standing state. Take, well, Emperor. Golbez on the other hand never has an airborne->standing lag.
Sure, maybe it's character dependent. Don't be so dense as to pass it off completely. Then again, why am I arguing on an old video =]
Is it just me or does Dark Cannon seem to have been nerfed severely in Duodecim? I have to follow up with that new HP move for Dark Cecil which is super fast and ultra close range on most of the characters instead of using the usual Soul Eater.
@CamperCarl00 So far i've played the ol Dark Cannon + Soul Eater still works but feel free to use his new dark bringer if you're fine without luminous wave.
@StyryderX I'm just saying, if the video is any proof that there's a hole in Dark Cannon now where people can escape before you hit them with a Soul Eater. Dark Bringer is much faster, so you can still combo into that though.
There is another infinite for Cecil similar to this one, but works on ALL characters NPC or player. Dark cannon->Valiant blow (one hit)->Backwards Dodge cancel->Dark cannon->Repeat infinitely. ;D
lol, Cecil is easily defeated by any counter attack character... such as sephiroth, who has only to do his Charge through with retro damage Bravery attack to get out of this and knock Cecil down in the process
Ok. This "infinate" combo you are doing isnt for all charactors just as you said. Ive tryed it on Gabranth, Shann, Seph, and Squall. Gabranth in Non-Ex got out of it right after the first cast. Shann the same being her size and Squall just pummeled the hell out of me and as did Seph.
I think they nerfed this in the NA version, I see enemies get out of it all the time lol. Sephiroth's Sudden cruelty with Dodge Cancels still works though, as long as you've got the victim against a wall. still looking for others that work in the NA release.
well, he is right, there is a very slight standing period where a normal person could spam the x button as fast as possible and eventually get out if they don't die first
I have an infinite combo, but it only seems to work on chaos since he doesn't dodge so often and is VUUREH big.
It's Gabranth's dual rend ability. Just smack him into the wall, back dash in the air (but not to the side or it might hit him out of range) and repeat...reapeatedly... xD
that combo is what got me through inward chaos and I still love it
This is Cecils infinite and it works wonders like this vs Emperor, other fighters though who can dodge after the first hit, I found a way around that. When you do the Dark Cannon animation you move about 1-2 pixels towards your opponent, and then fire it off again. If your opening cannon hits the opponent no matter where they are you can do it infinitley against people like Cloud and Zidane. Don't believe me view my video "Don't Dark Orb me Bro!"
I knew Cecil was annoyin opponent but didn't know he had this kind of bad ass bravery-leech attack that can be continued as long as you want... Well nothing is unfair against cpu ;)
Emperor sucks against most air fighters and Garland, but playing against others like Squall, Tidus, Cloud, etc. He can be tricky and shut down your offense fast.
Beat Fang is a brave attack, and if I were to go in-depth, which I won't, it's easy to get one off of a gimmick, Against someone smart enough to run, they are also smart enough to block.
Any other comments (after mine) not pertaining to the video will be deleted. Settle it elsewhere.
@vtxaishi cloud is Very easy cause his attacks are very predictable,
1 tip. Never fight cloud in the air, its easy but more harder then on the ground,
before you have to fight some hard character in inward chaos, Learn their attacks, Dont care about the points you get. learn em all and its alot easier, and use onion knight. its fast and darned strong
we obviously don't get along very well, we seriously need to play each other to settle this, and I would like for us to stop this argument now and keep our own ways of playing and opinions to ourselves, we're annoying other people with this pointless verbal assault on each other, who we will prolly never meet in our lifetime
You might be right We don't get along and there's no reason to argue any longer since we probably can't prove anything by doing it. Even though we can't play each other I should know I would have hard time playing you. There's many people to play at school so I'll just learn experience playing them. This would be the end of our chat. Bye.
those who think emperor is the weakest character really needs to understand that emperor is not your brave-break-then-bash character
he is played with a specific strategy of putting your opponent on constant guard by throwing flares then using specific brave attacks to make the flares hit
if you think emperor's the weakest, you are sadly mistaken and you obviously never gave him a chance, his thunder crest, flare, and starfall combo is really annoying to fight against
You cant block and stagger him since he have no melee attacks but his HP attack is useless against most character than can reverse it back to him and make it chase him instead. It would be impossible to win against an experience player. Me and my friend always Link in RL and we would never use "Useless characters" like the emperor. I've played both the US and JAP version and beat the game in both so I'm sayng this out of inexperience. Try to use the emperor against people in RL .
Squall, I have to say is the best melee character in the US version. If you can control omni-dash perfectly it's really easy to hit your oponent since it requires extreme reflexes to guard his Beat fang ability. Plus his Heel Crush is Auto Guard break which leads you to use beat fang with critical. His EX mode Allows 2x combo every hit which can break someone with 9999 brave in 3-4 Beat Fang. Squall is godly But I would never try to use the emperor with expert players.
No. Even if his brave is maxed, you still need to land an HP attack. Not godly.
Dodge heel crush and HP attacks, don't do anything stupid to get hit. No one is stupid enough to block a easily telegraphed Heel Crush anyways unless you pressure your opponent, which with Squall is a one time gimmick.
3-4 beat fangs in EX mode? Guess you haven't played ad-hoc much. Be lucky if you get one w/o EX accessories
I'd readily use Emperor if my opponent plays a character like Tidus or Cloud then Squall.
Emperor is the bane of most melee fighters, like jecht, garland, WoL,etc. unless they spam HP attacks to deflect flares, but by then, you'll prolly have starfall charged up, and I play on RL too FYI
Usually if you're smart enough you would run when squall is in Ex mode But if you can control omni-dash really good its possible to connect 3-4 beat fang. But if they don't run from you and fights head on then that's where Heel Drop comes in Since it can guard break and lead you into a free beat fang. use rough divide when you can 1 Hit KO and if they dodge too early then it's game. Many people use their reflexes to dodge early when they see a move coming but rough divide have a starting delay.
people aren't dumb enough to run into three of your beat fangs while your in EX mode when you're playing 6999 rules, for anyone who doesn't know its no accessories and no equips, and you prolly never played a good gabranth or garland either, both are awesome melee fighters. One of garland's attack can get past guard and chain into a combo that can break at the beginning, plus his ex mode is prolly even better than squall's. Gabranth is just stupidly fast and ridiculous range in Ex mode
I use gabranth when I play my friend but they all say He's way over power and spamming Ex mode is just cheat. So I stopped using him since I would abuse his Ex charge ability and cause complaints. Most characters depend on their speed and garland is a rather slow character even with speed boost ++. he's just another easy target to kill. No matter how good you are it would be frustrating to fight Zidane or any other fast characters that can easily dodge and start their instance combo.
and there you have it. Gabranth rivals squall as a melee char. and besides, garland being slow doesn't matter, his attack gets through guard, and as you prolly know, most people guard on reflex when they see the opponent coming at them, I would really love to play you some time
vaya gran estupides,,,,esto no es ningun combo y mucho menos infinito,,,no digas mamas,,,,,pobre pendejo....si asi juegas online eres un pobre diablo te aria pedasos en un segundo
Looks simple enough, which makes me think it can`t be infinite. What I like to do after that darkness attack is using Cecil`s physical attack combo, the only character that could dodge this attack was COD (of course this isn`t infinite, just a made up combo).
It's character specific, Emperor has a small lag upon hitting the ground, allowing another Dark Cannon to be combo'd.
Dark Cannon's main purpose is act as a mid-ranged attack to bring the opponent to Cecil for another close-range attack, using Soul Eater or the Dark Knight's ground brave both work. Plus the Dark Knight's ground braves do exceptional damage.
I wouldn't call it a combo, but more of a lock. Honestly, I would find that pretty easy to dodge/block, but I would say that's a pretty good n00bkiller. GJ!
YOU pick Emperor and YOU test it out with a CPU Cecil doing Dark Cannon to YOU. After the hit Emperor CANNOT move as soon as he touches the floor, with the Dark Cannon's speed shown in the video, Emperor is screwed.
If you try it once you'll see what I'm saying rather then say CPU THIS and CPU THAT. The fact is that even human Emperors cannot move enough to dodge the Dark Cannon combos.
Read the description, the test I told you to do (If you even tried it...) shows Emperor cannot move OR Dodge after the split-second landing. Therefore he can easily be chained over and over. After you do it, even once, it shows you how it is possible.
did he say HADOKEN at 0:57 ?
alexander6104 4 days ago
Certain characters don't transition flawlessly from airborne to standing state. Take, well, Emperor. Golbez on the other hand never has an airborne->standing lag.
Sure, maybe it's character dependent. Don't be so dense as to pass it off completely. Then again, why am I arguing on an old video =]
vtxaishi 5 days ago
0:57 Cecil: Hallo!!
NaughtyFreakyFred 3 weeks ago
Sounds like cecils saying "Out goes the poon!"
crayonkiler 4 months ago
so just spam dark wave ok!
shuzuma299 4 months ago
WTF Bleach
A: Cero
B: Hado
Windman1995 4 months ago
Is it just me or does Dark Cannon seem to have been nerfed severely in Duodecim? I have to follow up with that new HP move for Dark Cecil which is super fast and ultra close range on most of the characters instead of using the usual Soul Eater.
CamperCarl00 5 months ago
@CamperCarl00 So far i've played the ol Dark Cannon + Soul Eater still works but feel free to use his new dark bringer if you're fine without luminous wave.
StyryderX 2 weeks ago
@StyryderX I'm just saying, if the video is any proof that there's a hole in Dark Cannon now where people can escape before you hit them with a Soul Eater. Dark Bringer is much faster, so you can still combo into that though.
CamperCarl00 2 weeks ago
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"Only real men use the same move over and over" - Squall Leonheart.
DzoGavert 6 months ago
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DzoGavert 6 months ago
that was COOL
Jecht245 9 months ago
There is another infinite for Cecil similar to this one, but works on ALL characters NPC or player. Dark cannon->Valiant blow (one hit)->Backwards Dodge cancel->Dark cannon->Repeat infinitely. ;D
Shadestars 11 months ago
"I'll quit the pulling" (and he doesn't)
doombybbr 11 months ago
this is called supreme spam
Varron13456 11 months ago
but is very easy evasion this combo
GravityPowerful 1 year ago
I heard "I speak the truth!"
LikeAaaRockstar 1 year ago
did i heared Hadoken at 0:57?
Saforoth99880 1 year ago
lol, Cecil is easily defeated by any counter attack character... such as sephiroth, who has only to do his Charge through with retro damage Bravery attack to get out of this and knock Cecil down in the process
yamibalus 1 year ago
cecil is easily defeated by Squall
baagon888 1 year ago
come on play in blackjack instead of doin VERY EASY battles
Brightsideindustries 1 year ago
i lost 1 minute of my life watching this xd
silux76 1 year ago
GAY SPAMMER!!!
marisakirisame913369 1 year ago
@marisakirisame913369 Stupid Kid....
GameReloaded 1 year ago
heh i actuallt knew about this before i watched the vid :)
i used vs sephiroth on cecils story mode -.-
sephy basterd was storng for me
drkcrstl 1 year ago
Ok. This "infinate" combo you are doing isnt for all charactors just as you said. Ive tryed it on Gabranth, Shann, Seph, and Squall. Gabranth in Non-Ex got out of it right after the first cast. Shann the same being her size and Squall just pummeled the hell out of me and as did Seph.
blocksmag 1 year ago
jw do any of you know what theme this is? It's just at the tip of my tongue and I just forget...T.T please HELP!!!
macbooknoob 1 year ago
@macbooknoob I'm almost positive it's from Final Fantasy 2. I'm also pretty sure it plays when you talk to the queen of Altair.
DaemonLegacy 1 year ago
the reason your hitting th emperor is cuz hes a big fatty that you can hit more. you couldnt do that on Shantotto lol
ZodiarkSavior 1 year ago
pretty nice i wanna fight if you like to pm me your player card and ill give you mine if not then just ignore this XD
taggerung15 1 year ago
I think they nerfed this in the NA version, I see enemies get out of it all the time lol. Sephiroth's Sudden cruelty with Dodge Cancels still works though, as long as you've got the victim against a wall. still looking for others that work in the NA release.
Nejizero666 1 year ago
one way to counter, lol if ur the guy getting owned, just equip the acessories that allow u to gain ex while getting attacked, loool
HollowBankai04 2 years ago
lmfao, i just discovered this myself today
FalzarGregar 2 years ago
dude i swear that was hecka cheap
JDMHunter 2 years ago
well, he is right, there is a very slight standing period where a normal person could spam the x button as fast as possible and eventually get out if they don't die first
zulu012 2 years ago
I have an infinite combo, but it only seems to work on chaos since he doesn't dodge so often and is VUUREH big.
It's Gabranth's dual rend ability. Just smack him into the wall, back dash in the air (but not to the side or it might hit him out of range) and repeat...reapeatedly... xD
that combo is what got me through inward chaos and I still love it
zulu012 2 years ago
try that 3 lance combo on chaos^^
always hit him on the wall^^
it works, but not so well^^
i pulled out this combo on golbez, so it works^^
SkarmoryHunter 2 years ago
I tried to pull this combo on golbez in the inward choas campaign... man he just dodges it...
lSeKToRl 2 years ago
now this is gay.
xKenWatch 2 years ago
One thing's for sure though, it works wonders on Chaos!
Lunatic89097 2 years ago
It is a truly beautiful thing.
XZero264 2 years ago
This is Cecils infinite and it works wonders like this vs Emperor, other fighters though who can dodge after the first hit, I found a way around that. When you do the Dark Cannon animation you move about 1-2 pixels towards your opponent, and then fire it off again. If your opening cannon hits the opponent no matter where they are you can do it infinitley against people like Cloud and Zidane. Don't believe me view my video "Don't Dark Orb me Bro!"
Magioftheunseen 2 years ago
NICE.
altdkwhat2say 2 years ago
I pissed off one of my friends doing that. Priceless.
xD
Brucer420 2 years ago
It's only Dogeable because there is a standing frame that is very possible get out of. Cecil isn't Zidane
CrimsonHMD 2 years ago 5
DODGEABLE
CrimsonHMD 2 years ago 4
I knew Cecil was annoyin opponent but didn't know he had this kind of bad ass bravery-leech attack that can be continued as long as you want... Well nothing is unfair against cpu ;)
Pohvi 2 years ago
is possible evade this..... .- - '' i did
adoroomundo 2 years ago
Having fun?
Emperor sucks against most air fighters and Garland, but playing against others like Squall, Tidus, Cloud, etc. He can be tricky and shut down your offense fast.
Beat Fang is a brave attack, and if I were to go in-depth, which I won't, it's easy to get one off of a gimmick, Against someone smart enough to run, they are also smart enough to block.
Any other comments (after mine) not pertaining to the video will be deleted. Settle it elsewhere.
vtxaishi 2 years ago
@vtxaishi i love facing the emperor with tidus its so much fun.
kitsunade 1 year ago
@vtxaishi cloud is Very easy cause his attacks are very predictable,
1 tip. Never fight cloud in the air, its easy but more harder then on the ground,
before you have to fight some hard character in inward chaos, Learn their attacks, Dont care about the points you get. learn em all and its alot easier, and use onion knight. its fast and darned strong
mar990 1 year ago
we obviously don't get along very well, we seriously need to play each other to settle this, and I would like for us to stop this argument now and keep our own ways of playing and opinions to ourselves, we're annoying other people with this pointless verbal assault on each other, who we will prolly never meet in our lifetime
diu7ni13579 2 years ago
You might be right We don't get along and there's no reason to argue any longer since we probably can't prove anything by doing it. Even though we can't play each other I should know I would have hard time playing you. There's many people to play at school so I'll just learn experience playing them. This would be the end of our chat. Bye.
oreoman29 2 years ago
Infinite combos are only infinite on low difficulty matches.
this doesnt work on everyone, but then this combo obviously works well enough, but it is broken.
7MajinKurisu7 2 years ago
Does this work on everyone?
VMSAWRSMSZ006Z 2 years ago
i hate it when ppl say a certain character sucks,just because they dont understand that character's strategy >.>
Many peoplesay Kefka sucks too,but I pwn with him...
Assasin1025 2 years ago
those who think emperor is the weakest character really needs to understand that emperor is not your brave-break-then-bash character
he is played with a specific strategy of putting your opponent on constant guard by throwing flares then using specific brave attacks to make the flares hit
MrTubeStuck 2 years ago
lol this works if ai is not 9/9 9/9
otherwise, the ai is too stupid to dodge right
SonOfaWalnut 2 years ago
Poor Emperor being the weakest Char then getting abuse in this video. Nice BGM btw I always use that too when I play.
oreoman29 2 years ago
if you think emperor's the weakest, you are sadly mistaken and you obviously never gave him a chance, his thunder crest, flare, and starfall combo is really annoying to fight against
diu7ni13579 2 years ago
You cant block and stagger him since he have no melee attacks but his HP attack is useless against most character than can reverse it back to him and make it chase him instead. It would be impossible to win against an experience player. Me and my friend always Link in RL and we would never use "Useless characters" like the emperor. I've played both the US and JAP version and beat the game in both so I'm sayng this out of inexperience. Try to use the emperor against people in RL .
oreoman29 2 years ago
Emperor is fine. That's like saying Squall can't win against someone because they can dodge around all day.
Even better, in the Eng version he can punish with an HP in the air if not for his already brave rape-tastic counter air mine.
Bad on paper, but went put into practice, he's definitely a character who can easily tick you off, that is, if you're against the right character.
vtxaishi 2 years ago
Squall, I have to say is the best melee character in the US version. If you can control omni-dash perfectly it's really easy to hit your oponent since it requires extreme reflexes to guard his Beat fang ability. Plus his Heel Crush is Auto Guard break which leads you to use beat fang with critical. His EX mode Allows 2x combo every hit which can break someone with 9999 brave in 3-4 Beat Fang. Squall is godly But I would never try to use the emperor with expert players.
oreoman29 2 years ago
No. Even if his brave is maxed, you still need to land an HP attack. Not godly.
Dodge heel crush and HP attacks, don't do anything stupid to get hit. No one is stupid enough to block a easily telegraphed Heel Crush anyways unless you pressure your opponent, which with Squall is a one time gimmick.
3-4 beat fangs in EX mode? Guess you haven't played ad-hoc much. Be lucky if you get one w/o EX accessories
I'd readily use Emperor if my opponent plays a character like Tidus or Cloud then Squall.
vtxaishi 2 years ago
Emperor is the bane of most melee fighters, like jecht, garland, WoL,etc. unless they spam HP attacks to deflect flares, but by then, you'll prolly have starfall charged up, and I play on RL too FYI
diu7ni13579 2 years ago
Usually if you're smart enough you would run when squall is in Ex mode But if you can control omni-dash really good its possible to connect 3-4 beat fang. But if they don't run from you and fights head on then that's where Heel Drop comes in Since it can guard break and lead you into a free beat fang. use rough divide when you can 1 Hit KO and if they dodge too early then it's game. Many people use their reflexes to dodge early when they see a move coming but rough divide have a starting delay.
oreoman29 2 years ago
people aren't dumb enough to run into three of your beat fangs while your in EX mode when you're playing 6999 rules, for anyone who doesn't know its no accessories and no equips, and you prolly never played a good gabranth or garland either, both are awesome melee fighters. One of garland's attack can get past guard and chain into a combo that can break at the beginning, plus his ex mode is prolly even better than squall's. Gabranth is just stupidly fast and ridiculous range in Ex mode
diu7ni13579 2 years ago
I use gabranth when I play my friend but they all say He's way over power and spamming Ex mode is just cheat. So I stopped using him since I would abuse his Ex charge ability and cause complaints. Most characters depend on their speed and garland is a rather slow character even with speed boost ++. he's just another easy target to kill. No matter how good you are it would be frustrating to fight Zidane or any other fast characters that can easily dodge and start their instance combo.
oreoman29 2 years ago
and there you have it. Gabranth rivals squall as a melee char. and besides, garland being slow doesn't matter, his attack gets through guard, and as you prolly know, most people guard on reflex when they see the opponent coming at them, I would really love to play you some time
diu7ni13579 2 years ago
@oreoman29 Jecht is way better wtf u on
SlipKnot674 1 year ago
@oreoman29 dats ryt. squall is the best melee character.. i finished the game usin him.. i also like jecht.. so cool..
francisosorio243 1 year ago
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diu7ni13579 2 years ago
vaya gran estupides,,,,esto no es ningun combo y mucho menos infinito,,,no digas mamas,,,,,pobre pendejo....si asi juegas online eres un pobre diablo te aria pedasos en un segundo
LeRdInAr123 2 years ago
...does this work on all character?? & whats the level of CPU??
kozupiy 2 years ago
Character specific, 100 9/9 1/9
vtxaishi 2 years ago
I lol'd
haker10201 2 years ago
What is the song? It sounds so familiar
HarryTheTurtle 2 years ago
The best thing about Dissidia is UBOARH XD
andreas19691 2 years ago
Looks simple enough, which makes me think it can`t be infinite. What I like to do after that darkness attack is using Cecil`s physical attack combo, the only character that could dodge this attack was COD (of course this isn`t infinite, just a made up combo).
KujaSephy 2 years ago
It's character specific, Emperor has a small lag upon hitting the ground, allowing another Dark Cannon to be combo'd.
Dark Cannon's main purpose is act as a mid-ranged attack to bring the opponent to Cecil for another close-range attack, using Soul Eater or the Dark Knight's ground brave both work. Plus the Dark Knight's ground braves do exceptional damage.
vtxaishi 2 years ago
I tried the combo yesterday (against a CPU) and it`s very useful, you can easily break your opponent this way.
KujaSephy 2 years ago
u always have the best music
MrCommentingGuy 2 years ago
LOL....HADOKEN!
uncafuka 2 years ago 6
hahaha i can see a opening where u can dodge haha
kenjilee92 2 years ago
Then get a friend of yours to lock you so you can dodge it and post a video.
Owait, guess not.
:I
vtxaishi 2 years ago
I wouldn't call it a combo, but more of a lock. Honestly, I would find that pretty easy to dodge/block, but I would say that's a pretty good n00bkiller. GJ!
lemonsatan 3 years ago 13
If it is conditional, then it isn't a combo.
alchemistEXE 3 years ago
this infinite combo is interesting
unlike the other ones, u don't need to dodge
that's awesome
tofu951753 3 years ago
go cecil, can't wait to rape with him online
ihavgingervitis 3 years ago
I'm just trying to get a point across.
Thanks for telling me you tried to test it before I directly asked you or tried to get it out of you.
Owait.
:I
vtxaishi 3 years ago
YOU pick Emperor and YOU test it out with a CPU Cecil doing Dark Cannon to YOU. After the hit Emperor CANNOT move as soon as he touches the floor, with the Dark Cannon's speed shown in the video, Emperor is screwed.
If you try it once you'll see what I'm saying rather then say CPU THIS and CPU THAT. The fact is that even human Emperors cannot move enough to dodge the Dark Cannon combos.
Srsly, try it already.
:I
vtxaishi 3 years ago
Read the description, the test I told you to do (If you even tried it...) shows Emperor cannot move OR Dodge after the split-second landing. Therefore he can easily be chained over and over. After you do it, even once, it shows you how it is possible.
vtxaishi 3 years ago
He's showing off the infinite you damn retard. It's not meant to be a serious fight.
TimFreemanXD 3 years ago 2
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dude ur cheap as hell u damn noob fight real
ACJeChT 3 years ago