My comment "Lisitsa is great" wasn't but a short reaction on NachoVPMusic's comment "Check out Valentina Lisitsa's interpretation" and has NOTHING do to with Vladimir Horowitz.
"On an immensely higher plane, a surreal artist and musician": well, that's your opinion.
My comment "Lisitsa is great" wasn't but a short reaction on NachoVPMusic's comment "Check out Valentina Lisitsa's interpretation" and has NOTHING do to with Vladimir Horowitz.
"On an immensely higher plane, a surreal artist and musician": well, that's your opinion.
My comment "Lisitsa is great" wasn't but a short reaction on NachoVPMusic's comment "Check out Valentina Lisitsa's interpretation" and has NOTHING do to with Vladimir Horowitz.
"On an immensely higher plane, a surreal artist and musician": well, that's your opinion.
i find it interesting this etude is sort of about the ocean storm (i kno etude means practice) valentine interprets as fast moving nd high flying waves while as horowitz is mor about the weight of the waves and the crashing of the waves and weight means mor punch
If that's a true statement about that 1926 recording, then it's a fabulous recording first, second the piece has been played in one time and recorded the way Horowitz has been playing it. Already from the mid 60's the recording could have been corrected exactly in those places the pianist (or other performer) wasn't satisfied about his performance. After that completion the final recording had been used for the LP.
No one seems to have pointed out that this is not a recording of Horowitz, but a recording of the piano-roll he made in 1926 or so...even so there is something about it as an interpretation which sounds more musical than so many piano roll recordings - quite exciting really, but I doubt it's that much like his actual playing of that era
What makes this interpretation so great is that in the C-major section, starting at like measure 15 or so, he accents the top of the arpeggios rather than pounding on the bass like everybody else. It's insightful touches like these which make Horowitz shine so much brighter as a musician when compared to other performers.
Are you serious? Many pianists play behind tempo? Wow, my hands can move as fast as Horowitz is playing it, and like Valentina Lisitsa, but I don't know if I can play faster. :S
Out of all of the op 10 no 25 etude videos on youtube theres something really special about this one. Usually someone accents the thumbs on the arpeggios to much or let the base really drone on in the backround, this on the other hand shows so much technical prowess / control on the arpeggios there just so smooth and flowing its actually unbelievable - its almost as if it is played by an automaton
The name "Ocean Etude" fits this piece so well. This piece is the embodiment, the EPITOME of the ocean. At times so wistful, at times so forceful. I can't even put this feeling into words.
How did Chopin manage to do that? Capture the essence of the ocean into music?
Horowitz exceeds again. Amid all the rapid scales, you can still easily distinguish the powerful chords that make up the overall melody of the piece. It is a shame he was before my time, because I would have loved to meet him. =/
@BreakneckWalrus He didn't. Not intentionally anyway. The nickname "Oean" etude actually didn't come from Chopin. Same with "Winter Wind", "Tristesse", "Aeolian Harp" etc. Chopin merely designated his etudes by number and wasn't trying convey any images from them. In his mind, they were just technical studies for his students. The descriptive monikers for each were added later by publishers. But I don't disagree that "Ocean" is a perfect illustrator for the mood of this piece.
Very magical performance. For me, this is why Horowitz was one of the best. He could capture his audience in a matter of seconds when he began playing even the easiest pieces for him.
I never did, and never will understand his Liszt Interpretations, most particularly his Hungarian Rhapsody 2, but his Chopin is the music that pulls me into listening how he plays.
He was a magnificent pianist along side of my most favorite, Cziffra!
@rapanalyst Its probably because Chopin actually wrote these etudes as technical exercises for his students. Each one presents a different challenge that way. But they're also beautiful pieces of music as well. These two elements are what make them so unique & tough to learn. I'm just getting close to finishing up this piece. As Chopin etudes go its one of the "easier" ones but for me its been a killer !
I am with you on that. I actually find this Étude one of the more easier ones, I am almost done working on this piece. I find Op. 10 No. 5 (Black Keys) easy also, I just have to get some parts up to tempo.
@luizfabrizio22 Horowitz considered playing without wrong notes BORING and ACADEMIC. When you play like Horowitz you can do what you want..............
The fact that he was a great pianist is already showed by the fact that he here plays this étude "without moving his hands!!"
For the naïve people, I was just joking up there :)
I agree with many people saying that this interpretation is one of the best. Despite of so many notes and pedal, he still gets the harmony and melody perfectly on the foreground. wonderful!!
i like more richter and cortot versions , kissin is same like horowitz,after cziffra, lugansky , arau and the rest of the russian pianists. what maestro i forgot ?
Backhaus : a hero of Horowitz .Well for music .He was the first to record all of them eve before Cortot so he knew he could do these things better than most perhaps.I like wht Horowitz does top register. ARGERICH DID THIS LIVE AND IT TOPS ALL OF THEM .Silly to compare I imagine Richter.
Sorry, but Richter, Cortot and Backhaus rule in this piece; Horowitz is one of my favorite pianists, but not here. I am not prone to hero worshipping, which turns off discriminating listening.
I agree. To my opinion Backhaus recorded the best version. But I must say that I would have liked to hear a recording of Horowitz, playing this etude in the 20's/30's. These old recordings may not be hifi, but still you hear everything! Amazing! But a blessing, in the case of recordings like Backhaus'. Note that Horowitz said about a performance of Backhaus, playing Chopin's etude no.1 op.10, : "You could hear every single note!". Even he had his hero's...
@PointAndPurpose I read his biography. For a brief period he tried teaching and actually struggled with it. This was partly because he had such an unorthodox technique (flat fingers). When others inquired about it, he would advise against trying it because he said it was just too difficult for most people. He also wasn't the best communicator which is crucial for a teacher.
@davecotuit There was also Gary Graffman. But you're right, VH wasn't pleasant as a teacher. Janis was already emotionally fragile & had serious confidence problems after working with Horowitz. It took him a while to overcome those before stepping out in public. Graffman was older and had a bit more established with his own identity when starting with VH so he was less intimidated. I know there were others who worked with him but not on a long-term basis.
be fair - no one has ever played this work like Horowitz - this is outstanding.
untoa 3 weeks ago 4
Ottimo
Giov274 3 weeks ago
Piano roll. : )
kasyapa 1 month ago
The way he projects/sings the melody is amazing!
CooCurrent 1 month ago 4
this proves horowitz's skill, as he played it without even moving his hands. ^_^
fatcat22able 1 month ago 2
@fatcat22able
Hehehe, That was a great one.
ExequielB711 2 weeks ago
No one can hold a candle to Horowitz. He is one of the greatest pianists in the 20th century.
7521jacqueline 1 month ago in playlist Piano -- Chopin
horowitz is just brilliant!
ajayajath 1 month ago
This is Murray Perahías recording.
cardanaxel1 1 month ago
@cardanaxel1 No it's not. If you listen to the C-Major and A-flat Major parts, Murray Perahia voices them very differently.
egitnyc 1 month ago
WOAH!
robbyfrags 1 month ago
Check out Valentina Lisitsa's interpretation.
NachoVPMusic 2 months ago
@NachoVPMusic
Lisitsa is great.
geertdehoux 2 months ago
@geertdehoux Horowitz is on an immensely higher plane, he is a surreal artist and musician - Lisitsa is not.
Bret6464 1 month ago
@Bret6464
My comment "Lisitsa is great" wasn't but a short reaction on NachoVPMusic's comment "Check out Valentina Lisitsa's interpretation" and has NOTHING do to with Vladimir Horowitz.
"On an immensely higher plane, a surreal artist and musician": well, that's your opinion.
Regards,
G. Dehoux.
geertdehoux 1 month ago
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@Bret6464
My comment "Lisitsa is great" wasn't but a short reaction on NachoVPMusic's comment "Check out Valentina Lisitsa's interpretation" and has NOTHING do to with Vladimir Horowitz.
"On an immensely higher plane, a surreal artist and musician": well, that's your opinion.
Regards,
G. Dehoux.
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@Bret6464
My comment "Lisitsa is great" wasn't but a short reaction on NachoVPMusic's comment "Check out Valentina Lisitsa's interpretation" and has NOTHING do to with Vladimir Horowitz.
"On an immensely higher plane, a surreal artist and musician": well, that's your opinion.
Regards,
G. Dehoux.
geertdehoux 1 month ago
How you had changed in your mind,you have to keep yourself.
Grand Grand deep or ligher higher or brave etc. orchestra like elegant .
Now I aske to you, why have you accepted fashizm damag planners powers?
You stop to play left hand area in cirtaln ,you stop to add your emotions on left hand area in grand brave with your passion.
It is big problems that Your changing style have efected other yongers as same style.
Many audiences hope to dynamic as not loose sound,maybe. Try?
HighROCOCOlings 3 months ago
rather easy pice tho, for beeing chopin
ImMusicallyYours 4 months ago
@ImMusicallyYours yeah... its no biggy
1812over2 4 months ago
It took me 2 months to learn it. And 20 years to feel it.
JustSomeRandomNewb 5 months ago 15
Is this really Horowitz?
pedroborges78 5 months ago
For me this etude evokes similar feeling to the Liszt Chasses Neiges, stormy fatalism, resignation. "Go not quiet.."
pianodudeler 5 months ago
Amazing
TMiKiLLZoMbieZ 5 months ago
I am not sure how many times I have added this to my favorites at different times.
sasha42196 5 months ago
my god, is not that his hands are moving fast but its that he doesent need to move his hand or his body to play this piece.
ValdemarDragunov 5 months ago
i find it interesting this etude is sort of about the ocean storm (i kno etude means practice) valentine interprets as fast moving nd high flying waves while as horowitz is mor about the weight of the waves and the crashing of the waves and weight means mor punch
Agomongo1235 6 months ago
he is playing every piece in such a impressive way... you could mean he composed all of them by himself. The biggest giant among the pianists!!
Chopin1986 6 months ago
If that's a true statement about that 1926 recording, then it's a fabulous recording first, second the piece has been played in one time and recorded the way Horowitz has been playing it. Already from the mid 60's the recording could have been corrected exactly in those places the pianist (or other performer) wasn't satisfied about his performance. After that completion the final recording had been used for the LP.
crm4F240 6 months ago
No one seems to have pointed out that this is not a recording of Horowitz, but a recording of the piano-roll he made in 1926 or so...even so there is something about it as an interpretation which sounds more musical than so many piano roll recordings - quite exciting really, but I doubt it's that much like his actual playing of that era
piano4tay 6 months ago
sarebbe meravigliose avere un nonno come horowitz
giuseppe35789 6 months ago
In assoluto la migliore interpretazione di questo studio
Chiarina921 7 months ago
Sokolov plays this with a much broader view of the piece, throwing himself into every arpeggio. I'll take him for my money.
englishservices 7 months ago
Where is the recording taken from?
KRissRooTs 7 months ago
well, 4 people got seasick
TheSoken123 8 months ago 2
he plays it like i interpratate it :D
very good horowitz.
partykiddy3 8 months ago
more volcanic than oceanic
anonymousQ45 8 months ago
What makes this interpretation so great is that in the C-major section, starting at like measure 15 or so, he accents the top of the arpeggios rather than pounding on the bass like everybody else. It's insightful touches like these which make Horowitz shine so much brighter as a musician when compared to other performers.
ajones1113 8 months ago
Sokolov absolutely shreds this piece. I am in awe of Horowitz, but for this piece, I think none exceed Sokolov.
sfkeating 8 months ago
many pianists play at this tempo (but in tempo is 2' 05'')
bluestickman1 9 months ago
@bluestickman1
Are you serious? Many pianists play behind tempo? Wow, my hands can move as fast as Horowitz is playing it, and like Valentina Lisitsa, but I don't know if I can play faster. :S
Lawrencelovespiano 6 months ago
@Lawrencelovespiano
you don't understand.... when you play as the right tempo, it is exactly 2 min 4.5 sec
but horowitz is playing 2 min 25 sec
bluestickman1 5 months ago
@bluestickman1 But tempo and interpretation are two different things, nicht wahr?
cheries5 3 months ago
@cheries5 of course, i'm just saying that I didn't heard anyone playing in intempo
bluestickman1 3 months ago
@cheries5
A world famous pianist once said to me: "Like fingerrrring, tempo has to follooow... the musical liiiiine!"
geertdehoux 2 months ago
@bluestickman1
Then you haven't heard the great NEKEARBREV's legendary performance, yet!
geertdehoux 2 months ago
His Chopin recordings are legendary... just like he was himself
Chopin1986 9 months ago
I prefer Ciziffra but I worship Horowitz!
dancersover40 9 months ago
This is my favorite interpretation of this Etude. I really like the emotion he puts into it.
gabrielthepianist007 9 months ago
2 people saw his hands
yumichyumichyumich 9 months ago
Out of all of the op 10 no 25 etude videos on youtube theres something really special about this one. Usually someone accents the thumbs on the arpeggios to much or let the base really drone on in the backround, this on the other hand shows so much technical prowess / control on the arpeggios there just so smooth and flowing its actually unbelievable - its almost as if it is played by an automaton
VanargrandsEnd 10 months ago 2
Is it different from this recording ↓
Re: Vladimir Horowitz plays Chopin Etude op 25 Nº12
Tempo is too different to think it is same.
And did he record this piece?
Unbelievable.
Please some one return my comment.
OkitaJuuzou 11 months ago
@OkitaJuuzou horowitz made a roll of this once
New4785689 11 months ago
Is it different from this recording ↓
Tempo is too different to think it is same.
And did he record this piece?
Unbelievable.
Please some one return my comment.
OkitaJuuzou 11 months ago
it is good
OkitaJuuzou 11 months ago
Two people got sea-sick.
generation1313 1 year ago 14
@generation1313 now it's 7 lol!
aawpiano2007 1 week ago
i am not familiar with this recording, when and where was it recorded? was it ever released?
utubuser10 1 year ago
SPECTACULAR!!!
rxboy 1 year ago
The name "Ocean Etude" fits this piece so well. This piece is the embodiment, the EPITOME of the ocean. At times so wistful, at times so forceful. I can't even put this feeling into words.
How did Chopin manage to do that? Capture the essence of the ocean into music?
Horowitz exceeds again. Amid all the rapid scales, you can still easily distinguish the powerful chords that make up the overall melody of the piece. It is a shame he was before my time, because I would have loved to meet him. =/
BreakneckWalrus 1 year ago
@BreakneckWalrus He didn't. Not intentionally anyway. The nickname "Oean" etude actually didn't come from Chopin. Same with "Winter Wind", "Tristesse", "Aeolian Harp" etc. Chopin merely designated his etudes by number and wasn't trying convey any images from them. In his mind, they were just technical studies for his students. The descriptive monikers for each were added later by publishers. But I don't disagree that "Ocean" is a perfect illustrator for the mood of this piece.
dmcII 11 months ago
simply perfect
kamillendame 1 year ago
I love this etude. I think it's the deepest and darkest of the set.
LordCalvinHastings 1 year ago 2
i can hear the high notes so much more clearly in this version than most others. horowitz is utterly amazing.
fledgehog 1 year ago
Very magical performance. For me, this is why Horowitz was one of the best. He could capture his audience in a matter of seconds when he began playing even the easiest pieces for him.
I never did, and never will understand his Liszt Interpretations, most particularly his Hungarian Rhapsody 2, but his Chopin is the music that pulls me into listening how he plays.
He was a magnificent pianist along side of my most favorite, Cziffra!
ClassicMusicOnly 1 year ago 2
i dunno why but part A of this piece reminds me of hanon exercises :))
rapanalyst 1 year ago
@rapanalyst Its probably because Chopin actually wrote these etudes as technical exercises for his students. Each one presents a different challenge that way. But they're also beautiful pieces of music as well. These two elements are what make them so unique & tough to learn. I'm just getting close to finishing up this piece. As Chopin etudes go its one of the "easier" ones but for me its been a killer !
dmcII 1 year ago
@dmcII good luck on that, sir/ma'am! :)
rapanalyst 1 year ago
@rapanalyst Its 'sir'....Thanks....Lol !
dmcII 1 year ago
@dmcII
I am with you on that. I actually find this Étude one of the more easier ones, I am almost done working on this piece. I find Op. 10 No. 5 (Black Keys) easy also, I just have to get some parts up to tempo.
Lawrencelovespiano 6 months ago
bach influence in the opening!
Therachh3 1 year ago
Awesome decrescendo at 1:58!!!!!
Sahanai 1 year ago
@Sahanai
He doesn't make a decrescendo there. He makes a ritard and a slight pause.
Just before the theme returns.
It's called ritard and then a tempo.
Composer often write that in their music at the return of a theme.
marcxopoco 1 year ago
Lovely. Absolutely gorgeous.
rinpoche256 1 year ago
Magnificent
jcsiegelman 1 year ago
HOROWITZ - the greatest pianist in 20th century.
But I'm surprised that he played this etude with a slower (than usual,even than mine) tempo. Very rare.
But, the sound effect is, amazing.
I can feel it.
ChiefAdministrator 1 year ago
the depth of his emotional expression exhibited in this performance is not like any other's.
yyuummiin 1 year ago
Not like Manuel Delaflor. look for him
cnslpsbly 1 year ago
@cnslpsbly
Delaflor plays ok, but i heard some mistakes in his execution...
not comparable to Horowitz
luizfabrizio22 1 year ago
@luizfabrizio22 Horowitz considered playing without wrong notes BORING and ACADEMIC. When you play like Horowitz you can do what you want..............
TJFNYC212 1 year ago
naturale play
alexlliszt 2 years ago
The fact that he was a great pianist is already showed by the fact that he here plays this étude "without moving his hands!!"
For the naïve people, I was just joking up there :)
I agree with many people saying that this interpretation is one of the best. Despite of so many notes and pedal, he still gets the harmony and melody perfectly on the foreground. wonderful!!
GintsFarodin 2 years ago 43
Fool, they're just going so fast that you can't see them move.
Nutterbutterz95 2 years ago 133
i like more richter and cortot versions , kissin is same like horowitz,after cziffra, lugansky , arau and the rest of the russian pianists. what maestro i forgot ?
MrBathelemont 8 months ago
@GintsFarodin hahaha that made me smile! thanks:-)
jsbach29501 1 year ago
AMAZING!!! Without Words
bravoMisirlou 2 years ago
Backhaus : a hero of Horowitz .Well for music .He was the first to record all of them eve before Cortot so he knew he could do these things better than most perhaps.I like wht Horowitz does top register. ARGERICH DID THIS LIVE AND IT TOPS ALL OF THEM .Silly to compare I imagine Richter.
lovesGenet 2 years ago
lovesGenet, Cziffra's version on youtube tops anyones, including argerich
Liebromeistal 2 years ago
Horowitz plays and interprets this piece amazingly.
cattleman6420012000 2 years ago 2
Horowitz played this chopin's etude with such passion,really describing the deepness of ¨the ocean¨
Sigma1694 2 years ago
Horowitz in my opinion, has the best "Ever" interpretations of the Op.25 No.12 and the Op.10 No.12.
Such a great pianist...
Deimosxsz 2 years ago
Terrific pianism! Even from this roll.
I can only start to imagine how wonderful the original must have sounded!!
himitsunosallychan 2 years ago
omg its so powerfull piece ;) i love chopin :P
karoleczek113 2 years ago
i sure love the accented notes at the top.
certainly reminds me of the ocean. seagulls.. etc..
maydengarNSBHS 2 years ago 3
Sorry, but Richter, Cortot and Backhaus rule in this piece; Horowitz is one of my favorite pianists, but not here. I am not prone to hero worshipping, which turns off discriminating listening.
billyguns2 2 years ago
I agree. To my opinion Backhaus recorded the best version. But I must say that I would have liked to hear a recording of Horowitz, playing this etude in the 20's/30's. These old recordings may not be hifi, but still you hear everything! Amazing! But a blessing, in the case of recordings like Backhaus'. Note that Horowitz said about a performance of Backhaus, playing Chopin's etude no.1 op.10, : "You could hear every single note!". Even he had his hero's...
vlotjah 2 years ago
I've had this version on my computer for ages, I always loved the deep bass in the recording, it suits the piece marvelously. Thanks for the upload.
KeithWhalen11 2 years ago
la migliore interpretazione di chopin.
266282 3 years ago 2
+1 =]
ljoekelsoey4 3 years ago
His touch is magic!
frncgrc 3 years ago
magnifico
goldberg72 3 years ago
Ur my idol, d best!, i even dreamed of u as my piano teacher.
balikawasu 3 years ago
i had the same dream once, :-O
gabsart 3 years ago
Same here! That would be a miracle. I would kill to have him as my piano teacher.
...No, seriously.
PointAndPurpose 2 years ago 5
@PointAndPurpose I read his biography. For a brief period he tried teaching and actually struggled with it. This was partly because he had such an unorthodox technique (flat fingers). When others inquired about it, he would advise against trying it because he said it was just too difficult for most people. He also wasn't the best communicator which is crucial for a teacher.
Nonetheless, his performances were genius !
dmcII 2 years ago
If he were to be your teacher, each week you'd have to present another Chopin etude to him, for the next lesson.
demosj 2 years ago
@demosj I realize that! Wouldn't it be wonderful, though? :)
PointAndPurpose 2 years ago
no so fast! he was not that easy or pleasant to work with. the only one of his "students" to go on to have a great career was byron janis.
davecotuit 2 years ago
@davecotuit There was also Gary Graffman. But you're right, VH wasn't pleasant as a teacher. Janis was already emotionally fragile & had serious confidence problems after working with Horowitz. It took him a while to overcome those before stepping out in public. Graffman was older and had a bit more established with his own identity when starting with VH so he was less intimidated. I know there were others who worked with him but not on a long-term basis.
dmcII 1 year ago
@PointAndPurpose
or to have his teacher as your teacher...or mine
luizfabrizio22 1 year ago
you are everywhere filippeo, lol. how do you find this stuff? your videos are a constant delight.
brianCIM 3 years ago