you're over excited, people subconciously dont listen to over excited people, you must be calm and professional if anyone will listen, the more we all freak out about this the more nothing will ever get done. I give up.
Praise God! Thanks you all for your prayers to halt this toxic, lethal, unholy aerial spraying of humans as if they were insects...We the People=1, Kawamurasakison=0....hahahaha!
Keep praying:It's WORKING! Great news: human spraying halted in Santa Cruz by a judge this week. We need to keep praying until no more threat of human spraying in the Bay Area or anywhere else in this country....
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
It doesn't matter if it's safe or not.I have lung damage and asthma,hadn't had an attack for three+ years.I became very ill after the spraying, suffering repeated asthma attacks along with flu like symptoms.I left for two months,two weeks at a time,but always becoming ill again upon returning.I had no asthma problems while I was away,even the two weeks I spent in FRESNO with my sister.After two months my symptoms were better but not completely gone.I'm 3rd generation CAian,why is this OK?
Spraying the scent of a female moth at a few grams per acre is nothing compared to the tons of real pesticides they will spray the orchards and the nurseries with when this moth becomes established. If this moth is so unimportant then why is Mexico so afraid of the moth that they banned all strawberries coming from Central California?
I say spray the perfume now and keep the poison out of our food and off of our farmworkers!
The spray cocktail is far from just "the scent of a female moth". It is brand new biochemical concoction that is mostly untested due to the false "emergency" status. When it was sprayed in November, 2007 in Santa Cruz, they experienced the worst red tide in Santa Cruz history, at least 650 dead birds with absolutely no signs of disease, and over 600 human health complaints... all within hours and days of the spray. Say what you want about the humans, but the ocean and dead birds don't lie.
True that it's not tested... but it is in extremely small amounts compared to the known poisons your neighbors are spraying, dripping, and exhausting out of their cars every day. Furthermore, Elkhorn Slough, where the dead birds were found, is simply one of the most pesticide and fertilizer saturated locations in Central California... to say nothing of the power plant pollution there at Moss Landing. Red tide? I say welcome to global warming. The tide covered a far greater area than the spray.
You're aware it's untested and you're still OK with it being blanketed on children, the elderly and immune deficient? Sorry, but that says a lot about your logic, or lack thereof. Repetitious applications of any substance will have a negative accumulative effect. If Elkhorn Slough is such a poison pit, why don't we see dead birds all the time? Why just the day after the spraying? And no, the tide was fairly relative to the sprayed areas. Global warming? Why don't we see red tide more often then?
I'd also like to address the exposure amount that your repeat. The CDFA itself isn't even sure how high the exposure level is. So how can you be? They are spraying microcapsules that time-release the pesticide into the air continuously for 30-90 days. Jim Warren from USDA stated last October that there will only be around 33 microcapsules per sq. foot. Then CDFA's primary biologist stated in January that testing after the spray showed 809 microcapsules per sq. foot in some places!! Got children?
Mexico and Canada aren't "afraid" of the moth. They're just using our own classifications and trade restrictions against us. The LBA moth was wrongly classified as a "Class A" pest years ago to give ourselves a trade advantage. So Mexico and Canada use our own classification of the pest and have indicated that if we were to re-classify the pest, they will as well. It's a matter of our own strong-handed and misguided trade policies coming back to bite ourselves in the ass. Now it's all theatre.
Also, this moth is far from being the dangerous moth that we're told it is. Known and respected UC scientists that aren't being paid by the CDFA estimate that the moth has been here for 30-50 years. The moth's already well established and yet there's been NO DAMAGE at all!! Also, it is a "leaf-roller". Have you ever seen rollable "leaves" in a redwood tree, Monterey Pine, or other pines we're told that are targeted by this moth? No. It's fabrications by the CDFA designed to spread fear. Wake up!
"Leaf-roller" means the larva gathers leaves around itself for protection and glues them with silk. I'm not an expert on insects, but I have certainly seen pine needles and redwood leaves stuck together with silk by some insect. Are you sure you haven't?
Leaf-rollers tend to "curl" the leaf around themselves. I'm no insect expert either. But those that are and that aren't on the CDFA payroll fully agree that this moth is not a danger to our area, is already very well established beyond any possible eradiction, and that there are plenty of natural native predators to keep the moth in check, which is why we have seen absolutely no damage from this moth in the many years it's been here. CDFA's campaign is based on fear, not on any sound science.
"Keep the poison out of our food and off of our farmworkers"? Good point. So then you should also agree to keep the poison off of everyone else as well, including our children, elderly, pets, and wildlife.
When the Secretary of Agriculture, AG Kawamura, was recently asked if farmworkers would be allowed to enter a field that was freshly sprayed with this stuff, his reluctant answer was "No".
Watch the video of it: w w w . y o u t u b e . c o m / w a t c h ? v = i V f R v h l E R J 8
Almost all of our medicines including herbal medicines are poisons. That's why we can "overdose." I have been working 30 years to reduce pesticide use in California. It is people like me got rules against farmworkers even being sprayed by water from a helicopter or a plane. There should be big difference between some small time pest control operator on a schedule and the State of California. But in many people's minds I guess there isn't.
Thanks for your work in reducing pesticides. But it therefore seems illogical and hypocritical that you would condone this aerial spray program using untested biochemicals. You say you're worried people will use stronger stuff. Have they so far in all the years the moth has been here? Have they had any problems with the moth that has needed to be addressed? Absolutely not. In your last statement, are you saying that spraying a handful of people is more dangerous than entire urban populations?
If you live in the San Francisco Bay Area watch this video. You are going to be aerial sprayed with pesticides beginning this summer (2008), every 30 days, 9 months a year, for several years. Thank you for posting this video.
you're over excited, people subconciously dont listen to over excited people, you must be calm and professional if anyone will listen, the more we all freak out about this the more nothing will ever get done. I give up.
davetoporek 3 years ago
Praise God! Thanks you all for your prayers to halt this toxic, lethal, unholy aerial spraying of humans as if they were insects...We the People=1, Kawamurasakison=0....hahahaha!
tommyboysailor333 3 years ago
Keep praying:It's WORKING! Great news: human spraying halted in Santa Cruz by a judge this week. We need to keep praying until no more threat of human spraying in the Bay Area or anywhere else in this country....
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
tommyboysailor333 3 years ago
It doesn't matter if it's safe or not.I have lung damage and asthma,hadn't had an attack for three+ years.I became very ill after the spraying, suffering repeated asthma attacks along with flu like symptoms.I left for two months,two weeks at a time,but always becoming ill again upon returning.I had no asthma problems while I was away,even the two weeks I spent in FRESNO with my sister.After two months my symptoms were better but not completely gone.I'm 3rd generation CAian,why is this OK?
katlarue 3 years ago 2
Spraying the scent of a female moth at a few grams per acre is nothing compared to the tons of real pesticides they will spray the orchards and the nurseries with when this moth becomes established. If this moth is so unimportant then why is Mexico so afraid of the moth that they banned all strawberries coming from Central California?
I say spray the perfume now and keep the poison out of our food and off of our farmworkers!
hkibak 3 years ago
The spray cocktail is far from just "the scent of a female moth". It is brand new biochemical concoction that is mostly untested due to the false "emergency" status. When it was sprayed in November, 2007 in Santa Cruz, they experienced the worst red tide in Santa Cruz history, at least 650 dead birds with absolutely no signs of disease, and over 600 human health complaints... all within hours and days of the spray. Say what you want about the humans, but the ocean and dead birds don't lie.
eyes4truth 3 years ago
True that it's not tested... but it is in extremely small amounts compared to the known poisons your neighbors are spraying, dripping, and exhausting out of their cars every day. Furthermore, Elkhorn Slough, where the dead birds were found, is simply one of the most pesticide and fertilizer saturated locations in Central California... to say nothing of the power plant pollution there at Moss Landing. Red tide? I say welcome to global warming. The tide covered a far greater area than the spray.
hkibak 3 years ago
You're aware it's untested and you're still OK with it being blanketed on children, the elderly and immune deficient? Sorry, but that says a lot about your logic, or lack thereof. Repetitious applications of any substance will have a negative accumulative effect. If Elkhorn Slough is such a poison pit, why don't we see dead birds all the time? Why just the day after the spraying? And no, the tide was fairly relative to the sprayed areas. Global warming? Why don't we see red tide more often then?
eyes4truth 3 years ago
I'd also like to address the exposure amount that your repeat. The CDFA itself isn't even sure how high the exposure level is. So how can you be? They are spraying microcapsules that time-release the pesticide into the air continuously for 30-90 days. Jim Warren from USDA stated last October that there will only be around 33 microcapsules per sq. foot. Then CDFA's primary biologist stated in January that testing after the spray showed 809 microcapsules per sq. foot in some places!! Got children?
eyes4truth 3 years ago
Mexico and Canada aren't "afraid" of the moth. They're just using our own classifications and trade restrictions against us. The LBA moth was wrongly classified as a "Class A" pest years ago to give ourselves a trade advantage. So Mexico and Canada use our own classification of the pest and have indicated that if we were to re-classify the pest, they will as well. It's a matter of our own strong-handed and misguided trade policies coming back to bite ourselves in the ass. Now it's all theatre.
eyes4truth 3 years ago 2
Good point. If it's true, you win on this one.
hkibak 3 years ago
Also, this moth is far from being the dangerous moth that we're told it is. Known and respected UC scientists that aren't being paid by the CDFA estimate that the moth has been here for 30-50 years. The moth's already well established and yet there's been NO DAMAGE at all!! Also, it is a "leaf-roller". Have you ever seen rollable "leaves" in a redwood tree, Monterey Pine, or other pines we're told that are targeted by this moth? No. It's fabrications by the CDFA designed to spread fear. Wake up!
eyes4truth 3 years ago
"Leaf-roller" means the larva gathers leaves around itself for protection and glues them with silk. I'm not an expert on insects, but I have certainly seen pine needles and redwood leaves stuck together with silk by some insect. Are you sure you haven't?
hkibak 3 years ago
Leaf-rollers tend to "curl" the leaf around themselves. I'm no insect expert either. But those that are and that aren't on the CDFA payroll fully agree that this moth is not a danger to our area, is already very well established beyond any possible eradiction, and that there are plenty of natural native predators to keep the moth in check, which is why we have seen absolutely no damage from this moth in the many years it's been here. CDFA's campaign is based on fear, not on any sound science.
eyes4truth 3 years ago
"Keep the poison out of our food and off of our farmworkers"? Good point. So then you should also agree to keep the poison off of everyone else as well, including our children, elderly, pets, and wildlife.
When the Secretary of Agriculture, AG Kawamura, was recently asked if farmworkers would be allowed to enter a field that was freshly sprayed with this stuff, his reluctant answer was "No".
Watch the video of it: w w w . y o u t u b e . c o m / w a t c h ? v = i V f R v h l E R J 8
eyes4truth 3 years ago
Almost all of our medicines including herbal medicines are poisons. That's why we can "overdose." I have been working 30 years to reduce pesticide use in California. It is people like me got rules against farmworkers even being sprayed by water from a helicopter or a plane. There should be big difference between some small time pest control operator on a schedule and the State of California. But in many people's minds I guess there isn't.
hkibak 3 years ago
Thanks for your work in reducing pesticides. But it therefore seems illogical and hypocritical that you would condone this aerial spray program using untested biochemicals. You say you're worried people will use stronger stuff. Have they so far in all the years the moth has been here? Have they had any problems with the moth that has needed to be addressed? Absolutely not. In your last statement, are you saying that spraying a handful of people is more dangerous than entire urban populations?
eyes4truth 3 years ago
Nice video! Thanks for doing this. Someone had to!
hotbedmedia 3 years ago
If you live in the San Francisco Bay Area watch this video. You are going to be aerial sprayed with pesticides beginning this summer (2008), every 30 days, 9 months a year, for several years. Thank you for posting this video.
bpm4327 3 years ago