I'm sure you have answered this Q many times, but i can't be bothered searching comments and i exceeded my net limit and i'm slowed for browsing more of your vids. So where's the best place to buy silver bull in OZ ? Also at what price will refining sterling silver come into play ? Surely once silver hit's a certain high it will be worth refining sterling, that will add a shit load of silver to the market resulting in a fall in price's ?
*In an Australian voice* So, would it be fair to say, that you're a fair weather friend to silver? Or, more precisely, you mislead your viewers into purchasing silver, then when the selling opportunity presents itself, you sell and lament your audience for holding too long?
the deflationary camp seem to have the upper hand at the moment and the PM's are taking a hammering. I can't help thinking that this could turn around at any moment as it was only a few weeks ago there was no clear champion in the debate.
3 months from now we could be having a completely different discussion. Roll on 2012...
That was pretty good. I see Ag in the dumps most of the year with a couple of spikes to around $40 then a lift-off after the US elections to around $50 then something happening that will take everyone's mind off the $ silver price for awhile.
@onceANexile or the side effect of going after another one. It's still kind of murky in my mind. I think after the elections we'll see a big shift in everyone's priorities.
@acuriousbeast - i think thye 're setting the price so they, and thier friends, can buy it lower and ride on our backs, for as lond as they can, then set the price to thier likeing, thinking they can then get ours for nothing...
@onceANexile That's definitely part of it however there are other factors. A lot of silver 'gurus' fail to factor in things outside of manipulation issues. The solar panel industry is in a slump is one factor, slowing economic growth in China will put a damper on consumer electronics demand over there, one thing some are counting on to shore up price is another, mine production has increased also (probably a short term phenomenon). A shakeout is going to take place with the faint of heart.
Stella is the only one left in silver community, who uses logic and understands games being played behind. Even "conservative" David Morgan overusing wishful thinking. All other experts completely clueless on subtle things, despite countless hours of silver study. There will be enormous selling pressure at $50 dollar mark, because many silver bulls would want to get even from 2011 May crash. It could take 1-2 years to overcome that mark, as Stella correctly points out.
Don't forget. 2012 is the end of the world year. Very easy for a panic to set in. Collapsing currencies are in the public mindset becuase of Euro "crisis". 2012 is when it will all take place. Prepare to be shocked.
Interesting fact. When you say the hunt brothers, are you taking into account inflation? With the 'official' inflation calculator in hand. For silver to have the same 'high' in terms of value with inflation compared to the hunts bros in 1979 the real number is above 150$.
Yes Max Keiser is strangely silent about the crash JP Morgan campaign. I also expect some of these permabulls to be equally silent when their $8000 gold and $400 silver never materialize before 2015. I would like to be wrong but...
I don't see 2011's action having divided the Silver community really. My own perspective is that some people are more focused on the short-term or medium-term profits to be had in Silver, while others are convinced of it's long-term potential. When you factor in the spectrum of risk taking vs. risk aversion of all the variou individuals, what we really experienced was the difference between short & medium term thinking vs. long-term thinking. It wasn't silver that divided, but it was our views.
Wikipeida on Napier: "The topography puts Napier in danger from a tsunami, as the centre of the commercial city is near sea level – should the sea ever crest Marine Parade the sea would run through to Ahuriri."
Always eyes on the big picture gentlemen. If you are looking at a multi decade chart, we are creating the handle of a supermassive cupe and handle. As it stands right now, I am looking to buy anywhere in the mid 20s if it gets that low, and I pray that it does. At some point a few years down the line, we will break the ever so significant $50 level (in REAL terms, not just nominal value) and we will never look back (in terms of the current monetary structure). After that is no man's land....
I think 2012 is going to be much worse for the financials than most expect. The financial armageddon will occur next year becuase all it will take is for the markets to hickup and people will be screaming HERE WE GO from the rooftops. Surely capital will flow from the Euro, China will continue to consume physical silver at an increasing rate (year of the tiger) and the US will continue is stagnant/recession movement. Baby boomers leaving workforce as well. 2012 year of NWO. Don't forget it.
@MrCripster76 sorry yeah that's what I meant. This will definately increase demand. People continuously leave out the 2012 factor. This is the END OF THE WORLD. Panic will sweep the world as soon as someone farts. Silver will skyrocket in 2012.
@SilverLadyBug999 I showed a magazine on my channel with it on the front cover and how it was going to pop...I uploaded a news story from ABC.... And COUNTLESS internet articles... and thats just what I saw.
Hey John, I remember you saying something about the FreeMan movement & was wondering if you know or a familiar with a guy from Melbourne called Santos Bonacci?
Thanks fella. I've come to respect your opinion. David Morgan says at least $60 silver by year end after passing through a price deflation hole in the first quarter. WHatever - 2014 or so seems to be when things come apart, so we just keep accumulating.
I will mail you a Kiwi phrase book so you can make yourself understood when you get here :) Be prepared - it just may be possible that one or two people may mention the Tasmanian cricket test...
Here's the main thing contributing to the current silver price. Money that is being printed is being diverted to failing governments and banks. Its really that simple. When those entities fail, the money will slosh from failing governments and banks into tangible assets.
The time to be a buyer is now. Not when everyone is diving over one another with ridiculous high bids.
Charts are useless in a market as manipulated as silver. The banksters could probably set the paper price at 1 cent tomorrow if they wanted and that would be great because then we would get true price discovery on physical.
Hi John, I appreciate your opinions, thanks for your honest appraisal.
Yes, the technical short term silver price may fall for a time but several respectable metals analysts (like Dave Morgan) say that could change rather quickly. With each new low, Ch-india is buying metals hand over fist, the central banks are buying gold, the Euro may die, BoA may be the next big domino in bank failures, and the biggest boogie man in the closet seems to be derivatives.... we'll see.
It's interesting how JP Morgan said a while back that Gold would reach $2500 by Spring time 2012, only to see it fall approx. $200 from $1750 2 months after that statement from JP. I can never trust what the Banks say...buggers.
Thanks for you vids stella, I've learned a lot as I first got into silver this March. I don't see silver staying below $100 in a year's time but you've been very right before, let's see what happens. Happy Holidays from Mayan country, Guatemala!
Nice one Johnny! It certainly looks the way you paint it right now. Bearish for the next few months. But looking at the wider picture, how does Benny just sit on his hands with the dollar getting stronger and stronger? What will this mean? Bad for exports, and debtors,obviously; but the consequences could be bigger than I can imagine. I certainly don't see dollar euro parity like some ppl are calling...therefore I think theres a certain floor under the metals.Also an overtQE3and all bets are off
Silver just broke that channel that it has been in for OVER 3 or 4 years. That is a very big deal. The trade now is to be short silver until the chart says otherwise. My prediction is that in 2012 we will see silver trade down to $15 (us). And that is where I will look to get long. Everything in between is just noise.
@AnarchoCapitalistTV greek soverign debt for example - money is pumped in by EU member states into a hole that does little to nothing for the economy... its not inflationary until it hits the economy - which might be a year or so away.
I agree with you to a point. I think the second half of 2012 is where we will see silver make new highs. I think you have it spot on with the deflationary pressures etc but eventually the ponzi scheme with the us dollar is going to come to an end and and the focus is going to come back on the US and it's problems. What do you think?
Btw it's really impressively spot on your calls have been in the past. Keep it up!
Anyway good hearing from you and have a happy new year!
@stellaconcepts 10 days... Your an animal mate :) But being of Greek ethnic background I feel your pain! lol Have a great Christmas and Happy New Year!
@buttonmonkey01 SLA Member hey? I guess you're averaging down the purchases at $50? Speaking of which - Hasn't Max Keiser gone quiet of late re crash JP morgan??? Amazing backtrack that!
@stellaconcepts .. I started at $14. This is the first buy I have done in over a year and a half and my most expensive to date.
But in Celente and Chapman are correct your $45/oz might be on target and could be on the low side. But you know as well as I do the markets are heavy manipulated. After all just look at MF Global. They F'd everyone!
@buttonmonkey01 IF folks like Chapman were correct, silver would be $100 now wouldnt it. I am not saying listen to me - but what I am saying is stop listening to people who have been wrong time and time again.... its the definition of insanity.
The chart has been purposefully beaten up, flogged, and executed. I've seen this technique employed many times in other markets by big money. It is well practiced in those circles. I am no young genius, it is by years and years of brutal experience that makes recognizing the patterns possible. No need for me to see level 3 if it were available. I might say that this time, they could have failed, yet they never do.
When geniuses disagree, you know we're in for a surprise. Your humble approach is a big strength. The best Guess might be to split the difference and say silver holds between 25-30 until a major currency crisis, be it either the Euro or the Dollar. This way we would be closer to the reality whether the actual price goes up or goes down. We are entering a new political paradigm that is beyond my imagination absorb and project markets, especially politically motivated and manipulated.
Yes mate, your on the money , or currency should I say. :)
Election year in US next year.. so they will keep everything "happy Days " .
Crop Cirlces and Solar storms.. Hopi Indians calling formations "warning signs".. beware 1859 Carrington Event !!.. The wisdom Keepers returning " ET " and the Christians thinking it means JESUS !! put your seat belts on, the next couple of years is going to be a fucking ride !!!
Your views are pretty much in line with Jim Rogers'. Marc Faber has also talked about an "extended" pullback in metals which I take as a year or longer. Hopefully, it will be just like '73 '74 to get all the suckers out. A nice long period of accumulation for the serious stackers like us :).
Longer term weekly chart looks sprightly. I reckon we're close - about 8 months of downtrend in the GFC, about 8 months downtrend so far in 2011. A massive ABC correction maybe that will give way to a BIG uptrend. Just my guess, and I have been buying silver all the way down. Of course a silver bull looks at the chart differently.
I put up a story on this on THE NEWS UNIT. Looks like BrotherJohnF is telling us silver is going to ZERO now but the price will go up to INFINITY. I don't understand. Well if you want to buy a roll of my silver I'll sell it to you for less than INFINITY. How about $3 MILLION US?
@stellaconcepts I don't know really but there are all kinds on YOU TUBE. Only a few are real. Can you do a report on the Perth Mint? How far are you from there? They do have some nice coins that come out of there. G-day mate! :-) enjoy NZ and eat some Kiwi.
No, he is saying the paper market is going to zero, and because the dollar will also go to zero, actual silver will go to infinity relative to dollars.
@JP5466 He uses false names too on message boards. He even said so on one of his videos as he was calling everyone on the SLV board trolls, shills, and shysters. Just go look at THE NEWS UNIT and dig back a few pages of posts. You'll find him there. It's somewhat laughable.
@stellaconcepts While I agree with what you say for the most part I myself think the avg price of silver for 2012 will be around $40 oz I think there is a very good chance it can break the $50 highs. If Obama gets re-elected and Europe puts pressure on GER to agree to major bond buying and monetary easing we could see a HUGE Stock market Rally and an even Bigger Rally in the Metals with Gold going to $2000 oz and Silver to $50 oz just before 2013. Short Term I see $22 oz Ag and $1300 Au ;)
My prediction for 2012 is that we will see a huge decoupling of the physical price from the paper price! $100-$115 /oz for the phyz this time next year is very possible!
I like your videos man, Honest stuff and you arent some wackjob libertarian von mises type too. I would beg to differ on the similarities of the Hunt Brothers since the $50 dollar price back then would equal (with hyperinflation) about $150 in today's dollars. it was an extraordinary jump, but we have a ways to go before we hit that mark. But as usual it will be hostile volatility because the bankers own our shit. I predict as long as as the EU crap is going, they will bag silver down into 2012.
You should do some videos of the scenery out there... I'd bet those of in other countries would love to see your homeland. I know I would. Happy Holidays... Go Gold & Silver !!
@stellaconcepts You dont neet to suger coat anything mate. What we saw this year in Silver was Infact a BUBBLE. Now with that said that doesnt mean Silver is in a Secular bear Market trend, it just means that when something goes up way to fast in a short amount of time and regresses to the means it was a healthy bubble bursting. If silver had went to $80 oz without a correction I would be less bullish in the future for the metal but it did correct and Im loving it ;)
@MrPointspread "was infact a BUBBLE"...it opened on Jan 3rd 2011 around $30 and looks like it will end within the $29-$30 mark, that is not a bubble. Compare charts with the NASDAQ and housing bubbles and you'll see the silver market was/is not in a bubble. Sure it went up to $49+ and "corrected" (or was manipulated if you believe) back down to $29 but lets not call this a bubble. Silver would be worth far less than $29 if it was truly in a bubble.
Yup! The silver chart looks like absolute crap, now. What's more important, the fundamentals or the chart? I agree with you about the deflationary holes right now. Everything is sucking down and withering. So either collapse and NWO, or some kind of major patch job to punt us a few years down the road? You know, more wars, false flag events, nuclear waste spreading across the Pacific region, unprecedented Earthquake and storm activity, stuff like that.
Enjoy Napier. I grew up in Auckland and on the Gold Coast but I prefer Napier to either of those places. Thanks for all your posts this year. Great call on the $50 high for 2011. I think/hope you're wrong about about this coming year not reaching $50 but who knows for sure? Cheers
You put yourself out there John. You made some great sell offs at the $23ish and $48ish prices. Some people gave you a hard time for doubling your fiat money when you sold at the $23ish mark, which was weird. Others probably scoffed when you did the same at $48ish. Plenty of obnoxious people are obviously invested in Ag. Keep pulling the profits John and all the best for the New Year ahead.
I hope you're right John. I hope silver stays below $30 for over a year - meaning I can just stack more than I have.
I think the long term fundamentals for silver are such that it is an excellent 3-5 year investment. I wish I listened to you and took some profit at $50, but I'm not bothered that I didn't. It's all a learning experience and I think we all know the endgame for fiat currencies. Even if it doesn't get to that point, and the economy improves, I think silver has a bright future.
I appreciate you taking the time to make these Update Videos Stellaconcepts. You have a very logical view of silver. No hype and reasonable expectations. I always look forward to your updates. Can you share why you dont think silver will break 50? your reasoning behind it? or is it just more of a sense or feeling? I do know that after 2008 it took 2 years to reach the 20s again. So perhaps that is where your conclusion is coming from? Thanks again
@stellaconcepts I appreciate your reply, Since I live in the US I will share my view with you. I believe that some sort of QE3 may come sooner rather than later. We have a president that wants to win a reelection, meanwhile we have a poor economy and Poor employment numbers, its very difficult to campaign for a reelection with that kind of resume. The Fed is not going to want Ron Paul to replace him. Id expect the Fed to make 2012 Look as rosy as possible to help Obama in his campaign.
Lindsey Williams knows exactly where the price of going. He says that only by the providence of God did the elites allow him to go on Alex Jones show, and provide the telephone number to order his DVD set for the knowledge of where the price is going.
How is it possible for the price of silver to fall so low and not create a massive physical shortage? I'm confused on this point. Either there is plenty of silver available for investor and industrial demand, or there isn't. Is Eric Sprott lying to us?
@SpykerSpeed its because its not "so low" right now. I think Sprotts phys did run out of bars breifly after the pull back to $26...lets see what happens if it goes a few bucks lower than that. It might be hard to get coins, but you should still be able to buy 1000oz bars from a mine (or part of one).
you said it might hit some resistance at 50 but you expected it to go through from what i remember. the silver chart looks like shit but the gold chart looks good.
I thought Dots followed Williams's predictions, which would mean he subscribed to Williams's $2500 gold and $60 silver by November 2011, which didn't happen.
Great vid, good to see you in such high spirits!!! Also, that is great news and I hope your forecast is correct. === More time for me to invest. Cheers.
now there should be something to lead you to believe in a rally... one word: Bernank
islameriqa 1 month ago
I'm sure you have answered this Q many times, but i can't be bothered searching comments and i exceeded my net limit and i'm slowed for browsing more of your vids. So where's the best place to buy silver bull in OZ ? Also at what price will refining sterling silver come into play ? Surely once silver hit's a certain high it will be worth refining sterling, that will add a shit load of silver to the market resulting in a fall in price's ?
L0VEPEACEL0VEPEACE 1 month ago in playlist More videos from stellaconcepts
your a cool guy stella keep up the good work.
miketysonthegreat 1 month ago
Everyone else notice the recent take down in silver coincided with the holidays and the bullion dealers being closed (at least here in uk) !
ilovejimrogers 1 month ago
*In an Australian voice* So, would it be fair to say, that you're a fair weather friend to silver? Or, more precisely, you mislead your viewers into purchasing silver, then when the selling opportunity presents itself, you sell and lament your audience for holding too long?
*throws another shrimp on the barbie*
TheArrogantAgnostic 2 months ago
the deflationary camp seem to have the upper hand at the moment and the PM's are taking a hammering. I can't help thinking that this could turn around at any moment as it was only a few weeks ago there was no clear champion in the debate.
3 months from now we could be having a completely different discussion. Roll on 2012...
ilovejimrogers 2 months ago
You know Stella you are quite an analyst. You are not married blindly to your position.
nuanceqwest2 2 months ago
That was pretty good. I see Ag in the dumps most of the year with a couple of spikes to around $40 then a lift-off after the US elections to around $50 then something happening that will take everyone's mind off the $ silver price for awhile.
acuriousbeast 2 months ago 3
@acuriousbeast - isnt that the goal, maybe?...
onceANexile 2 months ago
@onceANexile or the side effect of going after another one. It's still kind of murky in my mind. I think after the elections we'll see a big shift in everyone's priorities.
acuriousbeast 2 months ago
@acuriousbeast - i think thye 're setting the price so they, and thier friends, can buy it lower and ride on our backs, for as lond as they can, then set the price to thier likeing, thinking they can then get ours for nothing...
onceANexile 2 months ago
@onceANexile That's definitely part of it however there are other factors. A lot of silver 'gurus' fail to factor in things outside of manipulation issues. The solar panel industry is in a slump is one factor, slowing economic growth in China will put a damper on consumer electronics demand over there, one thing some are counting on to shore up price is another, mine production has increased also (probably a short term phenomenon). A shakeout is going to take place with the faint of heart.
acuriousbeast 2 months ago
Stella is the only one left in silver community, who uses logic and understands games being played behind. Even "conservative" David Morgan overusing wishful thinking. All other experts completely clueless on subtle things, despite countless hours of silver study. There will be enormous selling pressure at $50 dollar mark, because many silver bulls would want to get even from 2011 May crash. It could take 1-2 years to overcome that mark, as Stella correctly points out.
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revlis999 2 months ago
That's way worse then texting and driving don't you think?
irish164321 2 months ago
You're driving on the wrong side of the car!!!!!
pupilofreality 2 months ago
Merry Christmas Stellaconcepts & All.
kookaburrakookaburra 2 months ago
Don't forget. 2012 is the end of the world year. Very easy for a panic to set in. Collapsing currencies are in the public mindset becuase of Euro "crisis". 2012 is when it will all take place. Prepare to be shocked.
EndTheResistance 2 months ago
$60 by August easily. I bet my savings on it. Literally...
LibertyDownUnder 2 months ago
Stellaman you still on the youtube?
Fullrubberman 2 months ago
Have a great Xmas, cobber... always appreciate your insights.
OzClawhammer 2 months ago
Interesting fact. When you say the hunt brothers, are you taking into account inflation? With the 'official' inflation calculator in hand. For silver to have the same 'high' in terms of value with inflation compared to the hunts bros in 1979 the real number is above 150$.
TheTrueJBV3737 2 months ago
you call silver a bubble... whaaaaaaaaat? XD
DaveC86 2 months ago 2
John!
Always enjoy your videos and insight! Thanks for educating me this past year! Merry Christmas & Happy New Year - from Canada!
hawkmoon480 2 months ago
Yes Max Keiser is strangely silent about the crash JP Morgan campaign. I also expect some of these permabulls to be equally silent when their $8000 gold and $400 silver never materialize before 2015. I would like to be wrong but...
KonaChuck22 2 months ago
I don't see 2011's action having divided the Silver community really. My own perspective is that some people are more focused on the short-term or medium-term profits to be had in Silver, while others are convinced of it's long-term potential. When you factor in the spectrum of risk taking vs. risk aversion of all the variou individuals, what we really experienced was the difference between short & medium term thinking vs. long-term thinking. It wasn't silver that divided, but it was our views.
veritasfiles 2 months ago
Wikipeida on Napier: "The topography puts Napier in danger from a tsunami, as the centre of the commercial city is near sea level – should the sea ever crest Marine Parade the sea would run through to Ahuriri."
BiggerThinking1 2 months ago
Always eyes on the big picture gentlemen. If you are looking at a multi decade chart, we are creating the handle of a supermassive cupe and handle. As it stands right now, I am looking to buy anywhere in the mid 20s if it gets that low, and I pray that it does. At some point a few years down the line, we will break the ever so significant $50 level (in REAL terms, not just nominal value) and we will never look back (in terms of the current monetary structure). After that is no man's land....
SolarAlchemy 2 months ago
I think 2012 is going to be much worse for the financials than most expect. The financial armageddon will occur next year becuase all it will take is for the markets to hickup and people will be screaming HERE WE GO from the rooftops. Surely capital will flow from the Euro, China will continue to consume physical silver at an increasing rate (year of the tiger) and the US will continue is stagnant/recession movement. Baby boomers leaving workforce as well. 2012 year of NWO. Don't forget it.
EndTheResistance 2 months ago
@EndTheResistance 2012 is year of the Dragon!!!
MrCripster76 2 months ago
@MrCripster76 sorry yeah that's what I meant. This will definately increase demand. People continuously leave out the 2012 factor. This is the END OF THE WORLD. Panic will sweep the world as soon as someone farts. Silver will skyrocket in 2012.
EndTheResistance 2 months ago
Your momma buys silver! Do they sell razors in Australia?
MrAjjordan1980 2 months ago
Could you list some of the mainstream media in Australia mentioned silver in 2011, from what I saw it barley got a mention at all ?
SilverLadyBug999 2 months ago
@SilverLadyBug999 I showed a magazine on my channel with it on the front cover and how it was going to pop...I uploaded a news story from ABC.... And COUNTLESS internet articles... and thats just what I saw.
stellaconcepts 2 months ago
@stellaconcepts Thanks :) I take a look through your videos.
SilverLadyBug999 2 months ago
@SilverLadyBug999 probably a waste of time.
SixDollarClick 2 months ago
23-25$ rebuy
RefugeeT 2 months ago
Hey John, I remember you saying something about the FreeMan movement & was wondering if you know or a familiar with a guy from Melbourne called Santos Bonacci?
TheSilverGuild 2 months ago
Im from Napier! Hope you enjoy it here.
Lukescomment 2 months ago
Thanks fella. I've come to respect your opinion. David Morgan says at least $60 silver by year end after passing through a price deflation hole in the first quarter. WHatever - 2014 or so seems to be when things come apart, so we just keep accumulating.
I will mail you a Kiwi phrase book so you can make yourself understood when you get here :) Be prepared - it just may be possible that one or two people may mention the Tasmanian cricket test...
Merry Christmas
Liam1304 2 months ago
happy xmass.watch out for earthqwakes in new zeland I hear thay are a bugga
STOPPUCKNOW 2 months ago
Here's the main thing contributing to the current silver price. Money that is being printed is being diverted to failing governments and banks. Its really that simple. When those entities fail, the money will slosh from failing governments and banks into tangible assets.
The time to be a buyer is now. Not when everyone is diving over one another with ridiculous high bids.
lilbromarky1 2 months ago
Have a great Holiday and a safe trip!
thegbpackers284 2 months ago
Charts are useless in a market as manipulated as silver. The banksters could probably set the paper price at 1 cent tomorrow if they wanted and that would be great because then we would get true price discovery on physical.
DontTread0nMe1776 2 months ago
silver eagles are still selling at a minimum of about 40 bucks on ebay. people still pay way over spot for it.
optical76 2 months ago
Charts are right in 55% of the time fundamentals are right 100% of the time on the long term.
I agree that very fast rise to 50$ done some damage we could be in the low 40thier today if 50 was tested by August at the Gold high 1923$.
Most important news are on the front of paper manipulation that is where silver price is decided.
Alexiscom1 2 months ago
Can I make my price prediction for silver in 2012?
It'll close at $16.50.
TheTiffanator1 2 months ago
you make a superb "best man"
galikazoid 2 months ago
Hi John, I appreciate your opinions, thanks for your honest appraisal.
Yes, the technical short term silver price may fall for a time but several respectable metals analysts (like Dave Morgan) say that could change rather quickly. With each new low, Ch-india is buying metals hand over fist, the central banks are buying gold, the Euro may die, BoA may be the next big domino in bank failures, and the biggest boogie man in the closet seems to be derivatives.... we'll see.
penguinistas 2 months ago
It's interesting how JP Morgan said a while back that Gold would reach $2500 by Spring time 2012, only to see it fall approx. $200 from $1750 2 months after that statement from JP. I can never trust what the Banks say...buggers.
Happy New Years John, have a good one.
Nexstar100 2 months ago
Thanks, I will celebrate a Silver price above 40 bucks on 2012!
spaghetti3331 2 months ago
Thanks for you vids stella, I've learned a lot as I first got into silver this March. I don't see silver staying below $100 in a year's time but you've been very right before, let's see what happens. Happy Holidays from Mayan country, Guatemala!
eduardoobregon 2 months ago
My favorite silver guy! No wishful thinking, No BS, just reason.
patrikkorda 2 months ago
Cheers mate Happy Crimbo. (Think I am getting a new Kettle)
GuildF40 2 months ago
More time for me to buy Silver. Yes !
TheWildbill242 2 months ago
Nice one Johnny! It certainly looks the way you paint it right now. Bearish for the next few months. But looking at the wider picture, how does Benny just sit on his hands with the dollar getting stronger and stronger? What will this mean? Bad for exports, and debtors,obviously; but the consequences could be bigger than I can imagine. I certainly don't see dollar euro parity like some ppl are calling...therefore I think theres a certain floor under the metals.Also an overtQE3and all bets are off
theMAXILOPEZpsycho 2 months ago
Silver just broke that channel that it has been in for OVER 3 or 4 years. That is a very big deal. The trade now is to be short silver until the chart says otherwise. My prediction is that in 2012 we will see silver trade down to $15 (us). And that is where I will look to get long. Everything in between is just noise.
mejt223 2 months ago
I love these times!! Shake out all the scrubs..... :-)
charlesfuchs 2 months ago
so, "deflationary holes"... you mean where bailout money goes? don't know if i follow you properly there.
also, what do you make of Rick Rule?
ta.
AnarchoCapitalistTV 2 months ago
@AnarchoCapitalistTV greek soverign debt for example - money is pumped in by EU member states into a hole that does little to nothing for the economy... its not inflationary until it hits the economy - which might be a year or so away.
stellaconcepts 2 months ago 2
Hey John,
I agree with you to a point. I think the second half of 2012 is where we will see silver make new highs. I think you have it spot on with the deflationary pressures etc but eventually the ponzi scheme with the us dollar is going to come to an end and and the focus is going to come back on the US and it's problems. What do you think?
Btw it's really impressively spot on your calls have been in the past. Keep it up!
Anyway good hearing from you and have a happy new year!
-Brandon
viper500190 2 months ago
you know it might have been your video, and a few others that actually got it to $50. thats a pretty big accomplishment if its true.
wesleytarbuck 2 months ago
cheers mate. happy holidays!
senator62 2 months ago
merry xmas john are you growing an epic benanke beard
rolficus 2 months ago 4
@rolficus thats about 10 days mate... I've given up shaving unless I need too - going through too many razors :)
stellaconcepts 2 months ago
@stellaconcepts 10 days... Your an animal mate :) But being of Greek ethnic background I feel your pain! lol Have a great Christmas and Happy New Year!
TheUltraNinja 2 months ago
And happy holidays to you as well... :)
ahmedvienna 2 months ago
Thx john for the update.... I'm now contemplating whether I should buy at this dip... Or wait for a bigger dip... Hmm...
ahmedvienna 2 months ago
Hey did you know the Perth Mint has stopped producing 20oz bullion bars.
So now your bullion bars are 10oz,1kg and 100oz.
This SLA member just got 20 more rounds.
buttonmonkey01 2 months ago
@buttonmonkey01 SLA Member hey? I guess you're averaging down the purchases at $50? Speaking of which - Hasn't Max Keiser gone quiet of late re crash JP morgan??? Amazing backtrack that!
stellaconcepts 2 months ago
@stellaconcepts .. I started at $14. This is the first buy I have done in over a year and a half and my most expensive to date.
But in Celente and Chapman are correct your $45/oz might be on target and could be on the low side. But you know as well as I do the markets are heavy manipulated. After all just look at MF Global. They F'd everyone!
buttonmonkey01 2 months ago
@buttonmonkey01 IF folks like Chapman were correct, silver would be $100 now wouldnt it. I am not saying listen to me - but what I am saying is stop listening to people who have been wrong time and time again.... its the definition of insanity.
stellaconcepts 2 months ago 2
@stellaconcepts Chapman and SGT are outlandish on their best day
lilbromarky1 2 months ago
The chart has been purposefully beaten up, flogged, and executed. I've seen this technique employed many times in other markets by big money. It is well practiced in those circles. I am no young genius, it is by years and years of brutal experience that makes recognizing the patterns possible. No need for me to see level 3 if it were available. I might say that this time, they could have failed, yet they never do.
InTheSticks0001 2 months ago
When geniuses disagree, you know we're in for a surprise. Your humble approach is a big strength. The best Guess might be to split the difference and say silver holds between 25-30 until a major currency crisis, be it either the Euro or the Dollar. This way we would be closer to the reality whether the actual price goes up or goes down. We are entering a new political paradigm that is beyond my imagination absorb and project markets, especially politically motivated and manipulated.
InTheSticks0001 2 months ago
@stellaconcepts what about gold?
jazzeffc 2 months ago
Yes mate, your on the money , or currency should I say. :)
Election year in US next year.. so they will keep everything "happy Days " .
Crop Cirlces and Solar storms.. Hopi Indians calling formations "warning signs".. beware 1859 Carrington Event !!.. The wisdom Keepers returning " ET " and the Christians thinking it means JESUS !! put your seat belts on, the next couple of years is going to be a fucking ride !!!
angie7dino 2 months ago
Your views are pretty much in line with Jim Rogers'. Marc Faber has also talked about an "extended" pullback in metals which I take as a year or longer. Hopefully, it will be just like '73 '74 to get all the suckers out. A nice long period of accumulation for the serious stackers like us :).
TheSchaefReport 2 months ago
Longer term weekly chart looks sprightly. I reckon we're close - about 8 months of downtrend in the GFC, about 8 months downtrend so far in 2011. A massive ABC correction maybe that will give way to a BIG uptrend. Just my guess, and I have been buying silver all the way down. Of course a silver bull looks at the chart differently.
cestoblique 2 months ago
I put up a story on this on THE NEWS UNIT. Looks like BrotherJohnF is telling us silver is going to ZERO now but the price will go up to INFINITY. I don't understand. Well if you want to buy a roll of my silver I'll sell it to you for less than INFINITY. How about $3 MILLION US?
newsunit 2 months ago
@newsunit BrotherJohnF is on medication - I am now convinced of that...
stellaconcepts 2 months ago
@stellaconcepts I don't know really but there are all kinds on YOU TUBE. Only a few are real. Can you do a report on the Perth Mint? How far are you from there? They do have some nice coins that come out of there. G-day mate! :-) enjoy NZ and eat some Kiwi.
newsunit 2 months ago
@stellaconcepts i want more lows i want to buy another 30 ounces lol
rolficus 2 months ago
@stellaconcepts Or he needs more. :-)
newsunit 2 months ago
@newsunit
No, he is saying the paper market is going to zero, and because the dollar will also go to zero, actual silver will go to infinity relative to dollars.
myusernameisluc 2 months ago
@newsunit Brother John recommends bitcoins too.... what does that tell you?
JP5466 2 months ago
@JP5466 He uses false names too on message boards. He even said so on one of his videos as he was calling everyone on the SLV board trolls, shills, and shysters. Just go look at THE NEWS UNIT and dig back a few pages of posts. You'll find him there. It's somewhat laughable.
newsunit 2 months ago
@stellaconcepts While I agree with what you say for the most part I myself think the avg price of silver for 2012 will be around $40 oz I think there is a very good chance it can break the $50 highs. If Obama gets re-elected and Europe puts pressure on GER to agree to major bond buying and monetary easing we could see a HUGE Stock market Rally and an even Bigger Rally in the Metals with Gold going to $2000 oz and Silver to $50 oz just before 2013. Short Term I see $22 oz Ag and $1300 Au ;)
MrPointspread 2 months ago
My prediction for 2012 is that we will see a huge decoupling of the physical price from the paper price! $100-$115 /oz for the phyz this time next year is very possible!
ArgentPure 2 months ago
I like your videos man, Honest stuff and you arent some wackjob libertarian von mises type too. I would beg to differ on the similarities of the Hunt Brothers since the $50 dollar price back then would equal (with hyperinflation) about $150 in today's dollars. it was an extraordinary jump, but we have a ways to go before we hit that mark. But as usual it will be hostile volatility because the bankers own our shit. I predict as long as as the EU crap is going, they will bag silver down into 2012.
bullshit3118 2 months ago
You should do some videos of the scenery out there... I'd bet those of in other countries would love to see your homeland. I know I would. Happy Holidays... Go Gold & Silver !!
SilverGoldCollection 2 months ago
@stellaconcepts You dont neet to suger coat anything mate. What we saw this year in Silver was Infact a BUBBLE. Now with that said that doesnt mean Silver is in a Secular bear Market trend, it just means that when something goes up way to fast in a short amount of time and regresses to the means it was a healthy bubble bursting. If silver had went to $80 oz without a correction I would be less bullish in the future for the metal but it did correct and Im loving it ;)
Merry Christmas John :)
MrPointspread 2 months ago
@MrPointspread "was infact a BUBBLE"...it opened on Jan 3rd 2011 around $30 and looks like it will end within the $29-$30 mark, that is not a bubble. Compare charts with the NASDAQ and housing bubbles and you'll see the silver market was/is not in a bubble. Sure it went up to $49+ and "corrected" (or was manipulated if you believe) back down to $29 but lets not call this a bubble. Silver would be worth far less than $29 if it was truly in a bubble.
troybr79 2 months ago
@troybr79 At one point in time Silver was doing over 130% YTD and now its looking to finish YTD in the red.
Call it what you want mate! Im just glad it Regressed back to the mean for good value buying :)
MrPointspread 2 months ago
Yup! The silver chart looks like absolute crap, now. What's more important, the fundamentals or the chart? I agree with you about the deflationary holes right now. Everything is sucking down and withering. So either collapse and NWO, or some kind of major patch job to punt us a few years down the road? You know, more wars, false flag events, nuclear waste spreading across the Pacific region, unprecedented Earthquake and storm activity, stuff like that.
drutter 2 months ago
Happy Festivus Everbody!
bunkermunk 2 months ago
Great hearing from you Stella. Hope all is well.
FREEsilverGiveaway 2 months ago
Enjoy Napier. I grew up in Auckland and on the Gold Coast but I prefer Napier to either of those places. Thanks for all your posts this year. Great call on the $50 high for 2011. I think/hope you're wrong about about this coming year not reaching $50 but who knows for sure? Cheers
dowhatuwill 2 months ago
By this time next year, we will all be WEALTHY !!!!!!!! (because we own PM's)
How's that for a prediction? Lol..
Merry Christmas & Happy New Year !!
lowpross11 2 months ago
in one of these your going to crash
jlg329 2 months ago
merry x-mas
lizadfuel 2 months ago
$13,000 seems like a deal for a 500 box of silver eagles instead of the current $16,000... maybe you'll be right!!!
frontier1701 2 months ago
Thanks for your input and happy holiday.
ferrari4sale 2 months ago
It was a fucking bubble.
It was also a perfect storm of social media, naive malcontents, snake oil salesmen and over leveraged trade accounts.
cosmosgato 2 months ago
The price backing up for awhile is not a bad thing as long as you're buying the stuff.
drewzillasaurusrex 2 months ago
Cheers on your thoughts John. Wish you a superb holiday and best wishes for 2012. Hope we all meeet again in 2012 and make it to 2013 unscathed:)
Hoepsakee 2 months ago
Do you think gold is a better buy for 2012?
Itsjames1 2 months ago
You put yourself out there John. You made some great sell offs at the $23ish and $48ish prices. Some people gave you a hard time for doubling your fiat money when you sold at the $23ish mark, which was weird. Others probably scoffed when you did the same at $48ish. Plenty of obnoxious people are obviously invested in Ag. Keep pulling the profits John and all the best for the New Year ahead.
From Sydney, Australia...halfasheep :-)
halfasheep 2 months ago
what if bernanke were to announce QE3, could it break 50 then?
lujosh87 2 months ago
I hope you're right John. I hope silver stays below $30 for over a year - meaning I can just stack more than I have.
I think the long term fundamentals for silver are such that it is an excellent 3-5 year investment. I wish I listened to you and took some profit at $50, but I'm not bothered that I didn't. It's all a learning experience and I think we all know the endgame for fiat currencies. Even if it doesn't get to that point, and the economy improves, I think silver has a bright future.
MyOwnYTAccount 2 months ago
@MyOwnYTAccount
Ditto I should have enough to buy a monster box by June :D
TheAsfaloth 2 months ago
I appreciate you taking the time to make these Update Videos Stellaconcepts. You have a very logical view of silver. No hype and reasonable expectations. I always look forward to your updates. Can you share why you dont think silver will break 50? your reasoning behind it? or is it just more of a sense or feeling? I do know that after 2008 it took 2 years to reach the 20s again. So perhaps that is where your conclusion is coming from? Thanks again
JetSetBaroni 2 months ago
@JetSetBaroni I dont see the conditions eventuating in 2012 that would do it... 2013-14 will be a HUGE year for the metals in my opinion.
stellaconcepts 2 months ago
@stellaconcepts I appreciate your reply, Since I live in the US I will share my view with you. I believe that some sort of QE3 may come sooner rather than later. We have a president that wants to win a reelection, meanwhile we have a poor economy and Poor employment numbers, its very difficult to campaign for a reelection with that kind of resume. The Fed is not going to want Ron Paul to replace him. Id expect the Fed to make 2012 Look as rosy as possible to help Obama in his campaign.
JetSetBaroni 2 months ago
@stellaconcepts Could the 'Metal Bugs' Be Wrong? that was the title of your video back then very good predtion i think
gasdorf 2 months ago
Lindsey Williams knows exactly where the price of going. He says that only by the providence of God did the elites allow him to go on Alex Jones show, and provide the telephone number to order his DVD set for the knowledge of where the price is going.
GypsyHustled 2 months ago 2
@GypsyHustled
LOL
tyronebiggums3 2 months ago
@GypsyHustled You are quite correct, but I got my pencil and paper ready to write it down all the same!
gibbo675 2 months ago
Stella.... purchase a few of the 2012 -- 32 kilo australian coins -- in a couple years you will be glad ..
33commonsenseguy 2 months ago
How is it possible for the price of silver to fall so low and not create a massive physical shortage? I'm confused on this point. Either there is plenty of silver available for investor and industrial demand, or there isn't. Is Eric Sprott lying to us?
SpykerSpeed 2 months ago
@SpykerSpeed its because its not "so low" right now. I think Sprotts phys did run out of bars breifly after the pull back to $26...lets see what happens if it goes a few bucks lower than that. It might be hard to get coins, but you should still be able to buy 1000oz bars from a mine (or part of one).
theMAXILOPEZpsycho 2 months ago
you said it might hit some resistance at 50 but you expected it to go through from what i remember. the silver chart looks like shit but the gold chart looks good.
rydaug79 2 months ago
Cheers John, safe and healthy holiday to you and yours..Enjoy.
EVRYMANaKING 2 months ago
hey stella what a year this year !!
Merry Christmas and let's see what the New Year holds !
stshell 2 months ago
Enjoy the art deco in Napier. Make sure you visit Rotorua - must do and Lake Taupo.
alstar70 2 months ago
John you are wrong about your predictions... Connectingdots1 said the price wouldnt go below 30. He has been right about everything he predicted.
GypsyHustled 2 months ago
@GypsyHustled It's below 30 now!!
alstar70 2 months ago
@alstar70
Connectingdots1 is accurate with all 'his' predictions.
GypsyHustled 2 months ago
@alstar70 I think Gypsy was having a lend :)
stellaconcepts 2 months ago
@GypsyHustled It's USD$29 now, Einstein.
robertplant634 2 months ago
@GypsyHustled
I thought Dots followed Williams's predictions, which would mean he subscribed to Williams's $2500 gold and $60 silver by November 2011, which didn't happen.
TheAsfaloth 2 months ago
Great vid, good to see you in such high spirits!!! Also, that is great news and I hope your forecast is correct. === More time for me to invest. Cheers.
IndianaGeologist 2 months ago
Merry Christmas John and have a safe and enjoyable holiday season.
ChrisPCrunchy 2 months ago
I'm on the Gold Coast - not the greatest weather down here :)
froz1983 2 months ago
Thanks John
silverjunky999 2 months ago
Merry Xmas mate ,what are your views on gold for 2012 ,if you dont mind?
Regards
investornator 2 months ago