The Narcissistic Pastor 4

[areyoublinddenver]

Been thru this twice.

[DelusionDispeller]

mrselfrog, I don't know you either, so if you are so strong on your points, why not tell her your real name? One of the other signs of abusers is that they like to hide behind fake names and labels if it means they can avoid confrontation. Drop the secrecy and let this person know who you are, even if you do so privately.

[mrselfrog]

My name is Robin. Everyone I "talk" to online knows that much. You can email me if you like. I'll post my email address in the description.

[cwkc0401]

have you noticed that a narcissist have similar traits as the devil?

1) appears as the angel of light (charming)

2) lies/manipulate others to keep his/her narcissistic supply

3) self-exalting instead of God-exalting

4) deceive the very elected (in the context of Christiandom)

5) idolizing himself/herself and very skilled at convincing others to do the same

6) gets really angry when exposed of their true nature

7) inconsistent

8) empty to the core but has an appearance of grandiosity

etc.

[mrselfrog]

@cwkc0401 How Very observant! You sound like a person with some real experience.

[koolerkid430]

I too have experienced this kind of abuse and a narcissistic leader. This is an issue that should be addressed and more often.

And in response to HiZ Elect- a person who is truly His elect would not attack anyone or advise any medication other than the Word of God.

Mrselfrog may God bless the all the works of your hands and the suffering that you are doing for the sake of Christ Jesus-those who suffer with Him will regin with Him. The truth will set us free!!! Be encouraged in Christ Jesus

[Craigdna]

Good insight in relating narcissism to cult leaders. In the outdated Merck Manual, it relates how a paranoid personality disorder can induct another to possess their disorder. I think that narcissistics can do this as well.  Overall, I think that narcissistics are very dangerous people, especially, if they have a lot of mney. That doesn't set me to well with Hollywood. LOL You have a great, personality, honest, sincere, not strange in anyway, and I enjoyed your disertation. Thanks

[lucybean975]

Yep. Lots of authority, no accountability: mix some power and control issues in there, and it's a big mess. Seen it too, but not in a church--more an "alternative spirituality" type of scene.

[mrselfrog]

It is difficult to try to get together with others on spiritual things. Some one always has control issues, no-one wants to call them on it, and folks are full of superstitious hang ups they try to hang you on. They want you to use their lingo, do things their way, and if they have any pull what so ever, they ostracize you for being an independent thinker, knowing anything for your self, or just not wanting to be bossed around. Wish it wasn't like that.

[stoptripn]

I totally know what you have been through because I've been there myself with a big shot CEO wanna-be "pastor" who didn't pastor at all and had no accountability.

i would like to hear more.

[HizElect]

You don't know me... but from you name mrselfrog and your profile picture should make everyone realize that you are a joke and definately not christ like in any way and that everything on here is messed up. You need medication. Take some time and find something better to do with you time than bash a Pastor. If you don't go there anymore then GET A LIFE and LEAVE THEM ALONE!!!!!!

[mrselfrog]

OK... I may not know you, but I know who sent you. IF you don't know me, you don't know whether or not I am a liar, a Christian, or my psychiatric state. These videos are old, they remain on my channel because I stand by what I said,I have a right to say it and a Biblical duty to do a lot more than this. BTW where is your scripture for slandering me,calling me names and making assumptions on arbitrary things?

An elf is related to my name doesn't reflect a spiritual state, it is a picture.

[mrselfrog]

Even if my handle was satanlivesinmyheart_666, and I was an ordained wiccan minister who taught my children to commune with cat spirits, it doesn't mean I'm not telling the truth about what I saw and what happened. I learned a long time ago that I was poor liar, and a good persuader, so long as I have the truth, and I do. Like Jesse Ventura says,"You don't need a good memory when you tell the truth."

[TheWordCenter]

Dear "hiz..." I am speaking to the author of this video. Have a nice day.

[TheWordCenter]

Sorry you've been hurt. Hope you've healed by now (June 2008). Sounds like you were in the wrong church for you and yours. Self-centered persons are all over the world, and some are in the Church. Personality problems can become sin, if un-checked. Move on - and ask the Lord to guide you "in the paths of righteousness, for His names sake". I pray you wont be stuck in bitterness. Be positive and share the love and light of the Lord as it comes. In the name of Jesus Christ, Be healed!

[HizElect]

i dont know who you are but you are not talking to a christian.....thry are liars

[mrselfrog]

On that note, NYTN has a new series and you should check it out, cause ya'll would fit in great w/ that crowd. One more "Being a Christian is Obeying the Leader" group that you can network with.

(WordCenter.. check out their favorites, you'll see the cult I've been referring to. Might be enlightening for you...and thanx)

[mrselfrog]

This comment was left by a member (or "leader") of the cult I left. See, eight months of later they are still being controlling and stalker creepy. Notice the comments left on my other videos. THIS is why you need to look for these traits and leave gracefully.

[HizElect]

liarer

[mrselfrog]

What? Is that supposed to be a word?

Check under that favorite of yours, it says "I was in that service." I KNOW they go there because they said so.

[saaved03]

Lady why can't u wake up and see how decieved u are! If u (were) a christian or let me say a WOMAN OF GOD you wouldn't be promoting division in the church!! People can follow the spirit of God on their own...What makes you think you have enough God in you to discern anything...As far as I can tell by listening to U and your rambling u may need to seek forgiveness..Do u know how to do that? If u offend the HOLY GHOST it IS UNFORGIVEABLE!!! I pray that u find it within your spirit to WAKE UP!

[Miketheprofessor]

@saaved03 - Hey saaved, your response makes me strongly question whether you're saved. Division is not, by itself, a bad thing. Division from evil is good, the Bible implores us to expose evil in the church, just as Paul called out super apostles. We're supposed to divide from the evil, expose it as this woman is doing, and tell other members of the church to it. If we don't, we're in opposition to the Word of God. But I doubt you really care about the Word of God, Saaved.

[kambc]

Wow! I can't believe how well you described my old pastor. Hope you keep doing these videos.

[joeXcel]

I am of Paul. I am of Cephas, I am of Apollos, is what tons of believers are swayed into. We need the Holy Spirit's power to help us to strive to enter in through that straight gate and narrow path. Lord help us all.

Great videos. I can relate.

God bless...

[NotYourTypicalNegro]

You said "most of these big named pastors". Well, don't be fooled! It's the regular "no named" pastor as well.

[mrselfrog]

oh yes, Like I said I came from a group that was just a store front pastor who wanted to BE a big name... while criticizing all the big names saying they like a small crowd, then bashing the people for not getting the attendance up, etc. W/ Bynum/ Weeks in the news, Copelands, Osteen, all of it, I hope folks will see they are being made the sheeple of a cult, following 1 or 2 charismatic leaders.