too true brother, too true. I said once the same "these are the real dark ages" and almost got killed (which, believe me, would have been a relief). People really gave up thinking.
Few people understand, at least out of United States, that probably you are saving the civilized world from islam. If you didnt have gone to Irak, you would have Irak at your home. My admiration to your work.
Thx, but not even some people in the USA understand that. And the muslims are already here, as well as in Europe and in most other continents. They play stealth jihad; jihad by numbers (demographics); by infiltration; etc. These are the real dark ages. I'm afraid we've already entered a thousand years of darkness. Watch the vid called "Muslim Demographics" "What Islam Is Not" & "FITNA"
Stupidity and the garbage of diversity and multiculturalism are suicidal. There is culture and no culture
I would just correct you and say "from RADICAL Islam", not "from Islam". There are many people (including in Iraq) who are Islamic faith and are not against civilization. I think this distinction should be made. I do agree with the rest of your post. I am against any dictatorship and extremism.
I know it's hard for people to grasp this concept but Islam in itself is extremely violent & all you have to do to realize this is to open the koran, as well as looking at the life of Muhammad. So it is oxymoron to say that muslims are not radical. If they are muslim then they are violent extremists otherwise they wouldn't be that devout to their so-called faith that claims to be a religion but it is anything but that
There is also the silence from the so-called nice muslims that is deafening. Where are they when we see daily their acts of terror and mass killings practically in every continent except for South America, excluding Central America.
There are 44 hardcore conflicts right now and guess who is on the other side of each and one of them? Muslims.
What religion assures a place in heaven for rapists/mass murderers/pedophile? Islam (look especially in Surah 2, 8, 9, 40 and so on)
What religion permits people to lie and deceive? Islam (koran and Hadith)
What religion has a doctrine of abrogation? Islam (Koran 2:2 something)
I could go on all day. Please don't be fooled. A lot of so-called "good" muslims are not good because they are not confronting their own people who do this and a lot of them practice taqqiya (their doctrine of deceit.
Sorry for the long comment. I only want people to understand something. This is war and the sooner people realize this the better
Just a moment: US forces are in Iraq, and the Iraqi government agree to their presence. Kurdish people also agree to the US presence. Do you want to say that they are only pretending and in fact also pose threat to the Western civilization? I have nothing against the US presence in Iraq or Afghanistan (in the latter case it is the presence of other forces as well, including my country), but I do not agree that all the Muslims are evil.
The kurds were burnt alive more than 10 times by Saddam, what do you expect? I'm sorry I'm not seeing the logic with your response. No pun intended. I want to understand though so if you want you can elaborate that I'll try to see if I understand what you mean
Again, don't misunderstand what I said. I said ISLAM is evil. I don't think evil itself is as evil as ISLAM & I have served and lived more than a decade in the middle-east, etc. Believe me it is not something you want to ever have to see
I don't want to undermine your experience. I believe you came across very bad things. But Islam is not just Middle East. I don't know, but I think quite a large proportion of people in the world would be Islamic faith. Are all these people evil?
You said you do not understand my point. What exactly don't you understand? As far as I understand you say that Islam is evil and there are no moderate Muslims. Those who look moderate either pretend or desperately need help (like Kurds). I just have a question: what are your practical conclusions? Would you make Islamic faith illegal in your country?
Olenka, I dont want discus this matter, I will just say that since EmbassyRome has been studying this subject for a very long time and also been in the front to confirm his conclusions, I would listen to him carefully, because to me what he says has also the confirmation of history.
I just don't like generalizations. If someone claims that something is evil without any exceptions, I start being suspicious. I think talking that Islam is evil can finally make moderate Muslims radical. They would simply have no other choice but fight people who want to eradicate their religion.
Islam is violent IN ITSELF Olenka, this is what you dont see, so if there is a "moderate muslim" then either he is being a bad muslim or he can abandon that religion in case he doesnt want to be violent.
So what do you propose? Both of you. I mean in a practical aspect. Islam is one of the greatest religions in terms of the number of believers. We have to find the way of coexistence. In the past it was possible in many places. Why shouldn't it be possible now?
There are many steps that need to be taken IMMEDIATELY:
Completely halt Muslim immigration into Europe & the rest of the west NOW
No sharia ANYWHERE & much less in the west. They are playing the al-hijra tactic to immigrate and take over as they are doing now by immigrating (remember muslims can marry up to 4 wives. I mean the most admired muslim is Bin Laden and he is one of 54 children)
Stop the building of mosques & madrassas that breed jihadi killers especially in the west
Communism might have been defeated, but not eliminated. There are countries like North Korea, Cuba, Vietnam that are communist. The most populated country in the world - China is also communist. Belarus, Venezuela, Nicaragua, Bolivia have many communist features. And also Russia brings back many communist traditions. And communism has still many followers in the West - look at some YT channels. I think the danger is not over yet.
Great. I don't think I could have added more. Kill the so-called religion and go on the offensive.
Convert them or kill them.
I would turn the entire middle east into a parking lot and only then start to go on the offensive. I'm even harsher than Ann Coulter. To think that we could use some bombers.
I would do the same excluding our Holy Land, of course.
You are right we could win this thing in no time and we wouldn't need to use WMDs either. Just a few bombers with real projectiles and not the drones we are dropping in Pakistan right now. That would deter them. That is the only thing that deters them. We would also cut the supply (financial, ideologically, etc) for those moslems who are in Europe and the US. We just have no leaders that's the problem.
It would be also a very dangerous precendence to ban a religion which has a long tradition, because the next step might be banning Christianity and the Bible (especially the Old Testament if understood literally can sometimes be very controversial).
Some of your measures are not realistic (and you probably know about that). Some are feasible, but go against human rights and the rules of democratic society. You cannot send people back to their countries if there is a reasonable fear that they will be mistreated back at home.
He wouldn't be able to abandon the religion. The punishment for leaving islam or apostasy is death. Why do you think there are over 1.3 billion muzzies other than the fact that they are allowed to marry up to 4 wives? Because they can't leave it.
You're not understanding. Islam is not a religion. It is a killing oriented ideology that seeks domination at any cost.
I say that islam itself is evil and the more devout to islam muslims are the more dangerous they become. They are ordered to kill us. It's not just one aya here or there but in almost every surah of the koran. So they would be good muslims if they follow islam right? And Islam, as part of its doctrine, seeks to kill us. So we rely on them being bad muslims in order to survive
OK, so the Muslims I know are probably "bad" Muslims. They would probably feel insulted, but never mind ;) I think we agree to disagree. Sorry, I have to go to sleep (time difference). Don't take me wrong. I fully respect what you are doing.
No problem. I always like a debate and nothing is ever taken personally. All I would tell you is that I know you have good intentions, but sometimes a group of people by not doing anything & letting the evil flourish makes them accomplices even if they didn't want to or didn't realize it. I'm talking about some Muslims
What do you think the kids are doing in the video posted as a response to this 1? That's very common these days & those eggs will hatch soon and you don't think we have a threat?
As far as 44 hardocore conflicts are concerned, in some conflicts the cause is more ethnic than religious. In some of the conflicts Muslims represent the oppressive government and non-Muslims are fighting for their rights, however in other cases (Russia, China) it is the other way round. Non-Muslims make an oppressive government and Muslims are fighting for their rights (sometimes using violent methods, nevertheless they do not fight against Western civilization).
I must correct you about Russia. As I was in Dagestan & Chechen are among the most violent.
Also I said ISLAM is violent and suggested you look up some of the root causes, which lay in its "dogma" and how islam itself started and with who. Or what do you think they teach at mosques? Wahhavism, a violent uprising and now the mainstream islam is the most violent of all. You will not find a single muslim opposing wahhavism.
Which ethnic conflict are you talking about? Sudan? Somalia? Ethiopia?
The Muslims I know ARE mostly Chechens. They are fighting for the independence of their country and sometimes their methods are violent, but the cause is right. There are many factions among Chechens. Some are connected with Wahhabism and some are not. I have known some Chechen families for several years and no one can convince me that they are violent. Are these "most violent" people the ones you met personally?
Yes, extremely violent. Among the most violent I have seen and I have seen and experienced almost everything regarding this war. In fact it is because of what I have seen Chechen do that made me this determined.
Let me ask you something, if you see a woman being rape across the street, does it make you peaceful to just stand there? Because that's what the majority of Muslims do. They just stand there. Those are the so-called moderate muslims.
I understand that your example with a woman is a figurative one. You mean that moderate Muslims do not condemn the actions of radical Muslims. This is only partially true. No one of my Muslim friends tried to to justify 9/11. It is true that they do not like talking about radical Islam, but in the situation when Islam has been constantly criticized they might have something we call "besieged fortress syndrom".
Islam is not constantly criticized. Because of cartoons they set things on fire and kill people. Do you have any idea how many times Christianity is spit on? So it's a really lame claim.
Well done in Fallujah
milakafir 2 years ago
Thanks. Nice name "kafir". We are all "dirty kuffar" to them. I'm one and proud of it.
EmbassyRome 2 years ago
too true brother, too true. I said once the same "these are the real dark ages" and almost got killed (which, believe me, would have been a relief). People really gave up thinking.
Arminevh 2 years ago
Few people understand, at least out of United States, that probably you are saving the civilized world from islam. If you didnt have gone to Irak, you would have Irak at your home. My admiration to your work.
Arminevh 2 years ago
Thx, but not even some people in the USA understand that. And the muslims are already here, as well as in Europe and in most other continents. They play stealth jihad; jihad by numbers (demographics); by infiltration; etc. These are the real dark ages. I'm afraid we've already entered a thousand years of darkness. Watch the vid called "Muslim Demographics" "What Islam Is Not" & "FITNA"
Stupidity and the garbage of diversity and multiculturalism are suicidal. There is culture and no culture
EmbassyRome 2 years ago
I would just correct you and say "from RADICAL Islam", not "from Islam". There are many people (including in Iraq) who are Islamic faith and are not against civilization. I think this distinction should be made. I do agree with the rest of your post. I am against any dictatorship and extremism.
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
Olenka,
I know it's hard for people to grasp this concept but Islam in itself is extremely violent & all you have to do to realize this is to open the koran, as well as looking at the life of Muhammad. So it is oxymoron to say that muslims are not radical. If they are muslim then they are violent extremists otherwise they wouldn't be that devout to their so-called faith that claims to be a religion but it is anything but that
EmbassyRome 2 years ago
There is also the silence from the so-called nice muslims that is deafening. Where are they when we see daily their acts of terror and mass killings practically in every continent except for South America, excluding Central America.
There are 44 hardcore conflicts right now and guess who is on the other side of each and one of them? Muslims.
What religion assures a place in heaven for rapists/mass murderers/pedophile? Islam (look especially in Surah 2, 8, 9, 40 and so on)
EmbassyRome 2 years ago
What religion permits people to lie and deceive? Islam (koran and Hadith)
What religion has a doctrine of abrogation? Islam (Koran 2:2 something)
I could go on all day. Please don't be fooled. A lot of so-called "good" muslims are not good because they are not confronting their own people who do this and a lot of them practice taqqiya (their doctrine of deceit.
Sorry for the long comment. I only want people to understand something. This is war and the sooner people realize this the better
EmbassyRome 2 years ago
Just a moment: US forces are in Iraq, and the Iraqi government agree to their presence. Kurdish people also agree to the US presence. Do you want to say that they are only pretending and in fact also pose threat to the Western civilization? I have nothing against the US presence in Iraq or Afghanistan (in the latter case it is the presence of other forces as well, including my country), but I do not agree that all the Muslims are evil.
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
The kurds were burnt alive more than 10 times by Saddam, what do you expect? I'm sorry I'm not seeing the logic with your response. No pun intended. I want to understand though so if you want you can elaborate that I'll try to see if I understand what you mean
Again, don't misunderstand what I said. I said ISLAM is evil. I don't think evil itself is as evil as ISLAM & I have served and lived more than a decade in the middle-east, etc. Believe me it is not something you want to ever have to see
EmbassyRome 2 years ago
I don't want to undermine your experience. I believe you came across very bad things. But Islam is not just Middle East. I don't know, but I think quite a large proportion of people in the world would be Islamic faith. Are all these people evil?
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
You said you do not understand my point. What exactly don't you understand? As far as I understand you say that Islam is evil and there are no moderate Muslims. Those who look moderate either pretend or desperately need help (like Kurds). I just have a question: what are your practical conclusions? Would you make Islamic faith illegal in your country?
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
Olenka, I dont want discus this matter, I will just say that since EmbassyRome has been studying this subject for a very long time and also been in the front to confirm his conclusions, I would listen to him carefully, because to me what he says has also the confirmation of history.
Arminevh 2 years ago
I just don't like generalizations. If someone claims that something is evil without any exceptions, I start being suspicious. I think talking that Islam is evil can finally make moderate Muslims radical. They would simply have no other choice but fight people who want to eradicate their religion.
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
Islam is violent IN ITSELF Olenka, this is what you dont see, so if there is a "moderate muslim" then either he is being a bad muslim or he can abandon that religion in case he doesnt want to be violent.
Arminevh 2 years ago
Exactly!
EmbassyRome 2 years ago
So what do you propose? Both of you. I mean in a practical aspect. Islam is one of the greatest religions in terms of the number of believers. We have to find the way of coexistence. In the past it was possible in many places. Why shouldn't it be possible now?
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
There is a very humanitarian solution, I would make them very happy by sending them to their paradise so they would enjoy their harem.
Arminevh 2 years ago
hehe that's what I'm talking about.
I say let God have mercy on them because I sure won't.
EmbassyRome 2 years ago
There are many steps that need to be taken IMMEDIATELY:
Completely halt Muslim immigration into Europe & the rest of the west NOW
No sharia ANYWHERE & much less in the west. They are playing the al-hijra tactic to immigrate and take over as they are doing now by immigrating (remember muslims can marry up to 4 wives. I mean the most admired muslim is Bin Laden and he is one of 54 children)
Stop the building of mosques & madrassas that breed jihadi killers especially in the west
EmbassyRome 2 years ago
Stop giving them rights as members of a religion but rather recognize that they are part of the Umma that seeks a caliphate
Take the religious label off of Islam & recognize it as the evil ideology it is
Ban the koran just as the Mein Kampf is
Get rid of weak leaders
Get rid of the overwhelming cowardice
Oil alternatives
No more welfare
Eliminate all 70+ terrorists organizations scattered worldwide
EmbassyRome 2 years ago
Eliminate the other pillar of Islam, Shi'a, and how they must destroy us in order for their savior to come back, i.e. the 12th Imam or the Mahdi
Eliminate all 70+ terrorists organizations scattered worldwide
And the list goes on and on, but these are just merely defensive measures
Then we need to go immediately on the offensive and start fighting them on OUR TERMS
WAR. They are in their Dar-el-harb stage and so should we
EmbassyRome 2 years ago
Eliminate Islam (the ideology) for good. Once and for all. Communism was defeated and so should Islam be
Bust most importantly convert them to the true religion
EmbassyRome 2 years ago
Amen
Arminevh 2 years ago
Communism might have been defeated, but not eliminated. There are countries like North Korea, Cuba, Vietnam that are communist. The most populated country in the world - China is also communist. Belarus, Venezuela, Nicaragua, Bolivia have many communist features. And also Russia brings back many communist traditions. And communism has still many followers in the West - look at some YT channels. I think the danger is not over yet.
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
Great. I don't think I could have added more. Kill the so-called religion and go on the offensive.
Convert them or kill them.
I would turn the entire middle east into a parking lot and only then start to go on the offensive. I'm even harsher than Ann Coulter. To think that we could use some bombers.
milakafir 2 years ago
Ann Coulter is great.
I would do the same excluding our Holy Land, of course.
You are right we could win this thing in no time and we wouldn't need to use WMDs either. Just a few bombers with real projectiles and not the drones we are dropping in Pakistan right now. That would deter them. That is the only thing that deters them. We would also cut the supply (financial, ideologically, etc) for those moslems who are in Europe and the US. We just have no leaders that's the problem.
EmbassyRome 2 years ago
It would be also a very dangerous precendence to ban a religion which has a long tradition, because the next step might be banning Christianity and the Bible (especially the Old Testament if understood literally can sometimes be very controversial).
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
Some of your measures are not realistic (and you probably know about that). Some are feasible, but go against human rights and the rules of democratic society. You cannot send people back to their countries if there is a reasonable fear that they will be mistreated back at home.
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
He wouldn't be able to abandon the religion. The punishment for leaving islam or apostasy is death. Why do you think there are over 1.3 billion muzzies other than the fact that they are allowed to marry up to 4 wives? Because they can't leave it.
milakafir 2 years ago
You're not understanding. Islam is not a religion. It is a killing oriented ideology that seeks domination at any cost.
I say that islam itself is evil and the more devout to islam muslims are the more dangerous they become. They are ordered to kill us. It's not just one aya here or there but in almost every surah of the koran. So they would be good muslims if they follow islam right? And Islam, as part of its doctrine, seeks to kill us. So we rely on them being bad muslims in order to survive
EmbassyRome 2 years ago
OK, so the Muslims I know are probably "bad" Muslims. They would probably feel insulted, but never mind ;) I think we agree to disagree. Sorry, I have to go to sleep (time difference). Don't take me wrong. I fully respect what you are doing.
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
No problem. I always like a debate and nothing is ever taken personally. All I would tell you is that I know you have good intentions, but sometimes a group of people by not doing anything & letting the evil flourish makes them accomplices even if they didn't want to or didn't realize it. I'm talking about some Muslims
What do you think the kids are doing in the video posted as a response to this 1? That's very common these days & those eggs will hatch soon and you don't think we have a threat?
EmbassyRome 2 years ago
As far as 44 hardocore conflicts are concerned, in some conflicts the cause is more ethnic than religious. In some of the conflicts Muslims represent the oppressive government and non-Muslims are fighting for their rights, however in other cases (Russia, China) it is the other way round. Non-Muslims make an oppressive government and Muslims are fighting for their rights (sometimes using violent methods, nevertheless they do not fight against Western civilization).
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
I must correct you about Russia. As I was in Dagestan & Chechen are among the most violent.
Also I said ISLAM is violent and suggested you look up some of the root causes, which lay in its "dogma" and how islam itself started and with who. Or what do you think they teach at mosques? Wahhavism, a violent uprising and now the mainstream islam is the most violent of all. You will not find a single muslim opposing wahhavism.
Which ethnic conflict are you talking about? Sudan? Somalia? Ethiopia?
EmbassyRome 2 years ago
The Muslims I know ARE mostly Chechens. They are fighting for the independence of their country and sometimes their methods are violent, but the cause is right. There are many factions among Chechens. Some are connected with Wahhabism and some are not. I have known some Chechen families for several years and no one can convince me that they are violent. Are these "most violent" people the ones you met personally?
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
Yes, extremely violent. Among the most violent I have seen and I have seen and experienced almost everything regarding this war. In fact it is because of what I have seen Chechen do that made me this determined.
Let me ask you something, if you see a woman being rape across the street, does it make you peaceful to just stand there? Because that's what the majority of Muslims do. They just stand there. Those are the so-called moderate muslims.
EmbassyRome 2 years ago
I understand that your example with a woman is a figurative one. You mean that moderate Muslims do not condemn the actions of radical Muslims. This is only partially true. No one of my Muslim friends tried to to justify 9/11. It is true that they do not like talking about radical Islam, but in the situation when Islam has been constantly criticized they might have something we call "besieged fortress syndrom".
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
Islam is not constantly criticized. Because of cartoons they set things on fire and kill people. Do you have any idea how many times Christianity is spit on? So it's a really lame claim.
milakafir 2 years ago
Don't even bother stating the obvious. Some don't want to see what is in front of their eyes and will make any bogus excuse imaginable.
EmbassyRome 2 years ago
That was a good analogy. Simple yet so true. I hope you don't mind that I used it to prove the same point to someone else.
And yes Chechen are among the most virulent.
milakafir 2 years ago