@Kazumaster Well it's fact that he used some characters and stories from Kalevala as a base for some characters in Middle-earth. Like the character of Túrin Turambar is based on the Kalevala character Kullervo.
Kalevala 43° Runo Iski lieto Lemminkäinen, sekä iski jotta lausui: «Maahan miehet, maahan miekat, maahan untelot urohot, sa'at miehet siiven alta, kymmenet kynän nenästä!» Vaka vanha Väinämöinen, tietäjä iän-ikuinen, arvasi ajan olevan, tunsi hetken tulleheksi. Jo veti melan merestä, tammen lastun lainehesta; sillä kalhaisi kavetta, iski kynsiä kokolta: muut kynnet meni muruiksi, jäi yksi sakarisormi.
I don't have much knowledge of the Kalevala or Finnish mythology, but is this part of the Kalevala the part where Vainamoinen has helped steal back the Sampo and Louhi tries to get it back by fighting them at sea? Forgive me if I'm wrong lol
I have to move to Finland. Now. Nah, I will just finish my studies here in Hungary but afterwards... Beware, Finland!
I have to ask something: What do you Finnish people think about those immigrants who respect your culture, language, history, and learn finnish as hard as they can?
@jaksi7c8 We have no problem with such immigrants at all. Good European peoples like Hungarians should have no trouble here at all. Finns are a bit less talkative than most other Europeans, but I think it´s a typical trait to Nordic peoples.
@jaksi7c8 torhjelm is right, everyone that respects the culture is very welcome to Finland. At least most of the finns think so, I think. I suggest you move somewhere norther than Helsinki, thou.. :D
@Valkoinenkoira Thanks a lot for your (and for everybody else's) reply! These answers mean a lot for me. Why do you think I should move somewhere norther? Once I have been to Turku, and it was so great, the nature, the people, the whole city... But I'm sure almost all of the cities in Finland are the same.
better without, but ofc immigrants like that are better than the robbing and raping somali bastards that pretty much hate/disrespect the whole country and its people, those we hate, learning finnish for hungarians shouldnt be that bad since the languages are kind of related to each others, you will be just fine here.
Long as you have aim to your life and you walk towards it, you respect the law and have common sense, you do have some idea of good manners and if not, you try to learn some, it is all the same what you think of us or our culture.
We work hard, we are honest ( it is almost currency in here ) and we let people live their life as they see best.
If you can do that, we are happy to have you and will support you in hard times too without a problem.
That was the most amazing and painfully beautiful melody. I can't believe how utterly complex and wondrous that sounds. Thank you so much for sharing; it's wonderful and deeply inspiring. I'm taking a new look at the Kalevala, that's for certain.
@Philosopheful Because Kullervonen would sound odd in finnish. I'm finnish, but I don't know the exact rule why there can't be nen in the end. It just sound odd.
If you would like to put nen in the end, you would have to add i too... so Kullervo's name would be Kullervoinen.
@Philosopheful Answer: For me it seems like Lemminkäinen and Väinämöinen are surnames (for example Lemminkäinen's first name is Ahti) and in finnish many surnames end with 'nen' as two most popular finnish surnames 'Virtanen' and 'Korhonen'. Kullervo has only first name which is Kullervo.
Väinämöinen doesn't need to kick Jesus's ass. He is the old one, greater than any silly godson, he was before the world was made, so he doesn't need to wait for any jesus to kick ass. Ukko didn't create the world, the world was created from an egg. Where's an egg you ask? Everywhere. The egg is here with us, all the time.
@kozmon0t There is no violence in Kalevala, that makes it unique when compared to any other epic native tale. So there would be no ass kicking if Jesus showed up, Väinämöinen would rather sing him into a swamp.
No violence in Kalevala? The wars between the families of Untamo and Kalervo?The battle of Sampo? Have you also forgotten the duel between Lemminkäinen and the Chieftain of Pohjola? Lemmy decapitates him and sticks the severed head on a pike.
@juispurg Really? Have you read what happens to Väinämöinen in the ending. Jesus attacks him with accusation and Väinämöinen disappears in shame.
Obviously the Jesus Christ character in Kalevala is made up as is most of the poems. Just like the Bible, it is just a collection of even older stories mixed up in a believeable manner... for the contemporary people.
In a wider spectrum there aren't any gods worth to believe in. I like the psychedelia in the poems of Kalevala.
Jos olen oikein ymmärtänyt, Henry Longfellow teki saman ärsyttävän tempun The Song of Hiawatha:n lopussa. Ja tuskinpa pelkästään Kalevalasta saatujen vaikutteiden vuoksi, vaikka sen saksankieliseen käännökseen hänen intiaanieepoksensa runomitta ja tarinan jotkut yksityiskohdat perustuvatkin.
@HermanniSan Nykyajan suurin synti on se, etteivät ihmiset usko. Mihinkään. Maailma on kauniimpi paikka, kun siellä elää vielä maahisia, peikkoja ja haltijoita. Ukon, Tapion, Ahdin ja Pekon nimeen, Väinämöisen henki elää vielä tässä routaisessa maassa ja sen asukeissa!
@vinterfroest En ole täysin samaa mieltä kauneudesta...
Mutta minua taas ihmetyttävät ihmiset, jotka väittävät uskovansa, vaikka selvästi ovat vain teeskentelijöitä (ja näitä suurin osa on). On aivan eri asia sanoa olevansa nuoren Maan kreationisti, kuin teeskentelevästi "no se perinteinen luterilainen". Jälkimmäinen tuskin tietää mistä puhuu.
Usko on aitoja ajatuksia ja käyttäytymistä. Se käskee repimään tapin irti keskellä jokea. Noh okei, myönnetään... se olisi aika kaunista. :)
@Mars7fin Olen ehdottomasti samaa mieltä kanssasi. Toisaalta, totta kai saa ääneen kertoa uskomuksistaan, hyvän maun rajoissa kuitenkin, kunhan ei yritä "käännyttää" muita siihen eikös? :)
Thanks for the video, I was really looking for this stuff (and it makes me adore Enka for their work even more) And great thanks for the Finnish and English texts! Kiitos paljon!
I myself read Kalevala in German, so it sounds wonderful to hear it in the original language.
1) Iski lieto Lemminkäinen, sekä iski jotta lausui: "Maahan miehet, maahan miekat, maahan untelot urohot, sa'at miehet siiven alta, kymmenet kynän nenästä!" Vaka vanha Väinämöinen, tietäjä iän-ikuinen, arvasi ajan olevan, tunsi hetken tulleheksi.
2) Jo veti melan merestä, tammen lastun lainehesta: sillä kalhaisi kavetta, iski kynsiä kokolta: muut kynnet meni muruiksi, jäi yksi sakarisormi. Pojat siiviltä putosi, melskahti merehen miehet, sata miestä siiven alta, tuhat purstolta urosta.
how beautiful it was :)
cristania 2 weeks ago
What a beautiful song! Thanks for sharing.
AgartaliVaiz 1 month ago
Väinämöinen might have been the inspiration for Gandalf. I mean, Tolkien talked about Kalevala being an influence for his work.
Kazumaster 1 month ago 2
@Kazumaster Well it's fact that he used some characters and stories from Kalevala as a base for some characters in Middle-earth. Like the character of Túrin Turambar is based on the Kalevala character Kullervo.
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ensiferum1992 1 month ago
Pojat siiviltä putosi,
melskahti merehen miehet,
sata miestä siiven alta,
tuhat purstolta urosta.
ensiferum1992 1 month ago
@torhjelm A Minnesota Finn joke that expands on what you said;
A Finnish extrovert is someone who looks at your shoes instead of his own when he talks to you.
1onefinn 2 months ago
I don't have much knowledge of the Kalevala or Finnish mythology, but is this part of the Kalevala the part where Vainamoinen has helped steal back the Sampo and Louhi tries to get it back by fighting them at sea? Forgive me if I'm wrong lol
Skypad00 2 months ago
@Skypad00 Yep, that´s the part (where Louhi transforms into a big ass mechanical eagle, lol)
torhjelm 2 months ago
Estupenda, agradable voz masculina ... me hace acordar a la voz de Jorge Ots y Tapio Rautavaara. Bravoo... Gracias por compartir el video.
condorcito99 4 months ago
Which song of the Kalevala is this? Can't speak finnish.
IpoodtheWonderfulWiz 4 months ago
SO beautiful! I wish there was more...
Ljomi 4 months ago
I have to move to Finland. Now. Nah, I will just finish my studies here in Hungary but afterwards... Beware, Finland!
I have to ask something: What do you Finnish people think about those immigrants who respect your culture, language, history, and learn finnish as hard as they can?
jaksi7c8 5 months ago 2
@jaksi7c8 We have no problem with such immigrants at all. Good European peoples like Hungarians should have no trouble here at all. Finns are a bit less talkative than most other Europeans, but I think it´s a typical trait to Nordic peoples.
torhjelm 5 months ago
@torhjelm would you magnificent people have a problem with the Irish moving to your shores
butterslacks109 3 months ago
@torhjelm awesome, same plan as jaksi's!
TheByegoonaar 2 months ago
@torhjelm what about belgians? just wondering
yourheadfelloff 1 month ago
@yourheadfelloff
Belgians are cool people. Hop on the plane and come over any time. :)
In fact, Belgians might be our distant ancestors, because
we have excavated lots of Merovingian age Frankish
swords and artifacts from burial sites in Western Finland.
According to some theories, Kalevala poetry might be a reflection of those
stormy days of the Migration Period, much like Nibelungenlied and Poetic Edda.
torhjelm 1 month ago 3
@torhjelm thanks a lot man that's good to know! u made my day :)
yourheadfelloff 1 month ago
@jaksi7c8
I've heard that Finns and Hungarians are like cousins. So that means that you are welcome =D
PatriaFinlandia 3 months ago
@jaksi7c8 The best way to become a friend with a Finn is to praise Finland, Finns and Finnish.
ZuuPuuH 3 months ago
@jaksi7c8 torhjelm is right, everyone that respects the culture is very welcome to Finland. At least most of the finns think so, I think. I suggest you move somewhere norther than Helsinki, thou.. :D
Valkoinenkoira 3 months ago
@Valkoinenkoira Thanks a lot for your (and for everybody else's) reply! These answers mean a lot for me. Why do you think I should move somewhere norther? Once I have been to Turku, and it was so great, the nature, the people, the whole city... But I'm sure almost all of the cities in Finland are the same.
jaksi7c8 3 months ago
@jaksi7c8
better without, but ofc immigrants like that are better than the robbing and raping somali bastards that pretty much hate/disrespect the whole country and its people, those we hate, learning finnish for hungarians shouldnt be that bad since the languages are kind of related to each others, you will be just fine here.
ristuksenvittu 1 week ago
@jaksi7c8
dont worry. finns loves european, american and asian people. you are welcome!
Hyyra 5 days ago
Long as you have aim to your life and you walk towards it, you respect the law and have common sense, you do have some idea of good manners and if not, you try to learn some, it is all the same what you think of us or our culture.
We work hard, we are honest ( it is almost currency in here ) and we let people live their life as they see best.
If you can do that, we are happy to have you and will support you in hard times too without a problem.
Oh, the language, no need to rush =)
@jaksi7c8
puistis 4 days ago
Aivan mahtava! Pitääkin aloittaa Kalevalan lukeminen uudestaan.
Ohrapelto 11 months ago
That was the most amazing and painfully beautiful melody. I can't believe how utterly complex and wondrous that sounds. Thank you so much for sharing; it's wonderful and deeply inspiring. I'm taking a new look at the Kalevala, that's for certain.
Ljomi 1 year ago
Question: why do Lemminkainen and Vainamoinen's name and in "nen" among others, but Kullervo's name does not? Thanks
Philosopheful 1 year ago
@Philosopheful Because Kullervonen would sound odd in finnish. I'm finnish, but I don't know the exact rule why there can't be nen in the end. It just sound odd.
If you would like to put nen in the end, you would have to add i too... so Kullervo's name would be Kullervoinen.
Giefurmoney 1 year ago
@Philosopheful Answer: For me it seems like Lemminkäinen and Väinämöinen are surnames (for example Lemminkäinen's first name is Ahti) and in finnish many surnames end with 'nen' as two most popular finnish surnames 'Virtanen' and 'Korhonen'. Kullervo has only first name which is Kullervo.
oxuri 10 months ago
One day Vainamoinen is gonna come back and kick Jesus's ass
kozmon0t 1 year ago 72
@kozmon0t
Väinämöinen doesn't need to kick Jesus's ass. He is the old one, greater than any silly godson, he was before the world was made, so he doesn't need to wait for any jesus to kick ass. Ukko didn't create the world, the world was created from an egg. Where's an egg you ask? Everywhere. The egg is here with us, all the time.
Simpson654 11 months ago
@Simpson654 How about if Ukko kicks his ass then
kozmon0t 11 months ago
@kozmon0t I must write this comment down, for it it too awesome to allow myself to forget it.
Anonie324 10 months ago
@kozmon0t There is no violence in Kalevala, that makes it unique when compared to any other epic native tale. So there would be no ass kicking if Jesus showed up, Väinämöinen would rather sing him into a swamp.
Axedalf 5 months ago
@Axedalf
No violence in Kalevala? The wars between the families of Untamo and Kalervo?The battle of Sampo? Have you also forgotten the duel between Lemminkäinen and the Chieftain of Pohjola? Lemmy decapitates him and sticks the severed head on a pike.
torhjelm 5 months ago 4
@kozmon0t Hehe, maybe. Have you read Kalevala? Jesus borns in the end of Kalevala, when Väinämöinen sails away.
donecert 3 months ago
@donecert That was undoubtedly written by a Swedish missionary.
kozmon0t 3 months ago
@kozmon0t Indeed, Jesus or christianity doesn't belong to ancient finnish poetry :)
donecert 3 months ago
I love this comment!
Snuffkin1990 3 months ago
@kozmon0t Vainamoinen, swordsman and wizard
Jesus, turns water into wine and can walk on water
jkdsdmf 1 month ago
@jkdsdmf Jesus will be running on water, all the way back to Sweden, when Vainamoinen's done with him. Then Vaino will drink the wine he captured.
kozmon0t 1 month ago
@kozmon0t so true
jkdsdmf 1 month ago
@kozmon0t in the last poem, Väinämöinen promises to come back ones more when hes knowledge is needed again. We shall wait...
pohjoisensusi 1 week ago
@pohjoisensusi Our next president is Väinämö (Sauli Väinämö Niinistö). Perhaps an omen?
jounisuninen 1 week ago
@kozmon0t Lemminkäinen and Ilmarinen are gonna come back too :D
mateo264 1 day ago
Thanks. I just finished reading that, nice voice and music .
valhoundmom 1 year ago
Tuon viidenneksi viimeisen rivin tavutuksen pitäisi olla
"jäi yk-si sa-ka-ri-sor-mi"
eikä
"jä-i yk-si saka-ri-sor-mi"
ainakin KaRuSen Trokeemankelin mukaan.
Hirvassalo 1 year ago 2
@Hirvassalo Joo, siinä pääsi vähän tahti sekoamaan.
torhjelm 1 year ago
Only a moral and physical untermensch may dislike this
suurikarhu 1 year ago
KALAVALA IS GREATEST BOOK IN WORLD!!!! makes me wana start to belive in finnish old gods ^^
juispurg 1 year ago
@juispurg Really? Have you read what happens to Väinämöinen in the ending. Jesus attacks him with accusation and Väinämöinen disappears in shame.
Obviously the Jesus Christ character in Kalevala is made up as is most of the poems. Just like the Bible, it is just a collection of even older stories mixed up in a believeable manner... for the contemporary people.
In a wider spectrum there aren't any gods worth to believe in. I like the psychedelia in the poems of Kalevala.
HermanniSan 1 year ago
@HermanniSan etkai sä ota mua totisesti oikeesti ??? O.o
juispurg 1 year ago
@HermanniSan
Jos olen oikein ymmärtänyt, Henry Longfellow teki saman ärsyttävän tempun The Song of Hiawatha:n lopussa. Ja tuskinpa pelkästään Kalevalasta saatujen vaikutteiden vuoksi, vaikka sen saksankieliseen käännökseen hänen intiaanieepoksensa runomitta ja tarinan jotkut yksityiskohdat perustuvatkin.
Hirvassalo 1 year ago
@HermanniSan Nykyajan suurin synti on se, etteivät ihmiset usko. Mihinkään. Maailma on kauniimpi paikka, kun siellä elää vielä maahisia, peikkoja ja haltijoita. Ukon, Tapion, Ahdin ja Pekon nimeen, Väinämöisen henki elää vielä tässä routaisessa maassa ja sen asukeissa!
vinterfroest 1 year ago
@vinterfroest En ole täysin samaa mieltä kauneudesta...
Mutta minua taas ihmetyttävät ihmiset, jotka väittävät uskovansa, vaikka selvästi ovat vain teeskentelijöitä (ja näitä suurin osa on). On aivan eri asia sanoa olevansa nuoren Maan kreationisti, kuin teeskentelevästi "no se perinteinen luterilainen". Jälkimmäinen tuskin tietää mistä puhuu.
Usko on aitoja ajatuksia ja käyttäytymistä. Se käskee repimään tapin irti keskellä jokea. Noh okei, myönnetään... se olisi aika kaunista. :)
HermanniSan 1 year ago
@vinterfroest Jos uskovat niin uskokoot mielessään. Maailma, jossa kukaan ei tuputa uskomuksiaan on minusta rauhallisuudessaan kauniimpi.
Mars7fin 1 year ago
@Mars7fin Olen ehdottomasti samaa mieltä kanssasi. Toisaalta, totta kai saa ääneen kertoa uskomuksistaan, hyvän maun rajoissa kuitenkin, kunhan ei yritä "käännyttää" muita siihen eikös? :)
vinterfroest 1 year ago
ihan loistava. haluan lisää..
thank you
zoolkhan 1 year ago
See laul pidavat olema 5000 .a vanune.Tervisi Eestist.
Karllikesmorrowind 1 year ago
Amazing!
Keep us updated please!
noxnocturne 1 year ago
Thanks for the video, I was really looking for this stuff (and it makes me adore Enka for their work even more) And great thanks for the Finnish and English texts! Kiitos paljon!
I myself read Kalevala in German, so it sounds wonderful to hear it in the original language.
nodeterin 2 years ago
This is amazing! I'd love to hear more.
Narqaa 2 years ago 5
Thanks for putting this up! its amazing
Dklonmy 2 years ago 17
Could someone post the Finnish text/lyrics? It would be great.
Dklonmy 2 years ago
torhjelm 2 years ago 4
torhjelm 2 years ago 3
This is cool
Dklonmy 2 years ago
Komealta kuulostaa ja hyvin sopii kuva-aineisto henkeen.
Kansanperinnenet 2 years ago