NC3D Transportation Demo Reel 2008 (updated!)

[Xtilete77]

1:46

Portuguese inveted that... and we use it since 1991...

[zedcell]

high speed trains are the future many europeans travel by train rather than air on some routes.

[johnairlines8]

Yay! Wind Turbines

[TransitNCTD]

When you talk about high speed rail it makes you want to think, will you use it? For most Californians it would be hard to part with their car, plus trains dont stop everywhere, BUT think about it, their are a lot of obese people in California, maybe walking a block or 2 isnt so bad. Besides gas prices are skyrocketing, and airports certainly dont help. The rail was our old mode of transportation, now lets bring it back, the rail should be affective, dump the pump, and planes, think rail 4 once

[johnairlines8]

@TransitNCTD Your right, our stupid Governor John Kasich declined something Obama says he was going to do. Put in high speed rail in Ohio, but NO he likes semi's that pollute our air and carry LESS cargo than trains, bring the trains back and we will be happy, every day, there are more accidents with Semi-trucks than trains. The trucks hog up roads, they come over on top of people, they flip others off, they go slow, they pollute, they hate trains, they think they are king of the road.

[TransitNCTD]

@johnairlines8 you are truly correct, why did people just froget about trains like its the past. its a major mistake, because one day cars and trucks wont be there, when the gas is gone, then what? Electricity prolly, but b4 they put the new electric stations in then you are gonna walk. Cars are by doubt the most costly thing to deal with.

[sideslide23]

in 30 years from now it will be $300 billion if California waits till 2041 to build

[mquiroz90]

@sideslide23 doubt that

[Romerjon17]

THIS IS JUST LIKE SIMCITY 4 BUT 3D!

I WISH THIS IS A FOR A PC GAME :)

[Scottit]

That's Douche' LaBag

More pork that few will use & takes much more resources to build than claimed will save.

At $50 million/mile +, it is ridiculous.

How many need to travel between major cities?

One still needs transport to station & around the destination city.

Hello?! Wake up.

Mobocracy in support does not mean it's good.

Looks real cool, better than your plaything tinker toys.

[Jploc3000]

@Scottit It isn't "pork". It is an innovative and useful way of getting around the state! Highway building is already costing $8-40 million per lane mile to build. Millions of people travel between CA cities every year just like other cities around the world! Also, yes, people will still need to get to their stations, but more stations = less distance needed to travel to get to an airport = less traffic! ALSO, less distance promotes the building of more public transit!

[Jploc3000]

For example, if I lived 5 miles away from LA Union Station, but 21 miles from LAX, I would not be using 16 miles of freeway, and since I feel 5 miles is close enough to use public transit, I will use it. Demand for more public transit near CaHSR stations will be generated and eventually met. CaHSR provides a safe, quiet, cheaper, and alternative transportation. At airports surrounded by water and buildings (LAX, SFO, SAN), they will need to shift short-haul-fliers onto something else like CaHSR.

[simmytu]

Nice video NC3D!

[arthurlebon]

USA makes demo reels; China builds high speed trains and track.

[arthurlebon]

USA makes "Demo Reels;" China build high speed train infrastructure.

[almodovare1]

In France, we have the best HSR system in the world with the fastest train in the world and A. Schwartzenegger came to France many times to be inspired and implement a similar system in California.

[Jalen650]

Is this a game! please be!!!

[studiotimer]

Wow! What an incredible video. Kudos to the company that produced it.

[Maxmouse922]

Pretty neat - hope it becomes real. Can't help but think its a modern intro to transport tycoon :P

[jeffsandychelsea]

It's a 503 #?? Portland Oregon??! Woah. o_o

[cyborgsnowyowl]

Look up:Blue America PAC

[enzhus]

High speed reail is a dream for California, a fantastic California Dream that will never be fulfilled.

Continue dreaming, people!!!

[sideslide23]

the Space Shuttle project in 1980s was the most expensive project in the U.S. it cost $170 Billions for the space shuttle mission and the five space shuttle, discovery, Atlanta, Challenger, Columbia and Endever. so it was a reality I'm shure HSR will be a reality.

[MrEiriku]

@enzhus douchebag

[williamfsark]

thank u so so so much 4 making that video, it helped me get a b+!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[nickster415]

man i dont like this if trains go fast then days will go by fast and besides i like the old buildings it brings back memories

[willyboi708]

This was way cool!! If only we could get our rail infastructure back, and then put the TGV to work crossing the country, the airlines would have no choice but to change their tune and offer better rates and service, not to mentionthe fact, that in France, it is faster to take the train in many cases than a plane. Train leaves downtown, arrives downtown, No hour commute to and from airport. If only....sigh

[h0troddude]

If only.

[Sealy1986]

I hope sim city 5 looks this good of graphics but this is just a animation.

[sideslide23]

@Sealy1986 when will they do Sim City 5000?

[iaintgonletup]

Californians must be higher than satellites if they think they're gonna be able to implement all the transportation changes I've seen in this video.

[jacksurfliner]

At 2:00 The Metrolinks look like the buck-toothed freaks at school

[tamiasthechipmunk]

Awesome reel..

[Nullport]

I wanna ride California Shinkansen.

[gofindjeff]

Never mind now. It's not going to happen since California is on the very edge of Bankruptcy. Because CA's congress didn't pass a proper budget, the states credit rating will be lowered to Junk-Bond status...i.e. NO way of ever funding this project! The 'good' news is they'll STILL find a way to pay for welfare, section8 housing, food stamps, child care, college aid, pre-K to 12 schooling, breakfast-lunch programs, prison housing, etc. etc. etc. for the 16+ MILLION ILLEGAL aliens in our state.

[Jploc3000]

Maybe we should be talking about the California High Speed Rail on the Youtube video page of it(10 min) (also brought to you by NC3D). There, 400,000 people have already watched it. More people can read what we say over there.

[gofindjeff]

Never mind now. It's not going to happen since Californias on the very edge of Bankruptcy. Since state congress didn't pass a proper budget, the states credit rating will be lowered to "Junk-bond" status...i.e. NO way of ever funding this project! The good news is they'll STILL find a way to pay for welfare, section 8 housing, food stamps, child care, college aid, pre-K to 12 schooling, breakfast-lunch programs, prison housing, etc. etc.etc. for the 16+ MILLION illegal aliens in our state.

[5057357]

The only reason Californias are on the edge bankruptcy because the Democrats and Republican keep yelling at each other and not working on a real biparstian solution.

[Scottit]

Only reason?

Ds & Rs disagreeing does not spend $billions of taxpayer money.

The programs & unions & high salaries do.

By the way, since 2000, if spending only increased as much as population & inflation did, there would be a surplus.

[Jploc3000]

CA politicians do not know what they need to cut. We are almost or are at our basics. Should we cut afterschool funding that keeps kids off the streets? Should we cut funding for senior care? No, we should not, but we have to. If we do not save money now, where will we be? CHSR is a long term saver. It can provide a lot of people jobs. If emplyers r allowed to make trade agreements, dont emplyees get to form a trade union? Yes. CA has cut salaries, and pushed furlows down workers throats.

[Scottit]

Cut many things.

However that is not the topic of this thread.

BTW, trade is far different than unions. You trying to make a comparison shows your ignorance. Please read more before making judgments & even voting.

CAHSR is way too costly & has little benefit.

The econ advantages are bogus.

Jobs? Raise taxes to pay people to do anything. Does that make sense?

[Jploc3000]

OFF TOPIC: Im just saying. Andrew Carnegie, the richest man in his time (298B in 2007 dollars), supported trade/work/labor unions. They go by many names. Carnegie was the one who felt that if employers could make trade agreements (ex. Nissan using Toyota hybrid tech) then employees could make those unions. Those unions stand up for their rights, for better conditions. One crumb (worker) has little chance against a cupcake (employer), but a whole group crumbs is a different story.

[Jploc3000]

One more thing. OFF TOPIC: A trade/labor union is an organization of workers who have banded together to achieve common goals in key areas and working conditions. Yes, they are expensive, but in my opinion, they are worth it. More spending follows higher salaries. Govt revenue comes from more spending. Thats another way unions are good. This is my opinion, and my view of work unions. I think that although expensive, its purpose it plays is worth the cost.

[Scottit]

Monopolies are against the law for business, but they are allowed for workers.

Do you buy US made cars & other products?

The less expensive stuff is made in other countries w/out unions.

[Jploc3000]

I never meant a monopoly. Im aware that they are illegal. Workers can choose what they want, and they do when they choose a company that is unionized or is not. Monopolies execute their competitors. Unions fight for their rights. Unions allow for workers to band up if something bad happens like a 25% cut in wages and no more dental plans. As I said before, one crumb can not beat a cookie. But a whole bunch of crumbs, thats a different story.

[Jploc3000]

And yes, I buy American cars, and they are on par in price. Also, foreign brands build a lot of cars sold in American in America(not an error). With a lot of other items being made in other countries, look at what they have to go through. For two dollars an hour in China, their conditions are sadly squalid. Look at the government that won't do anything about it. Look at the lack of freedom they have. Yes, American company gave them a slightly better life with jobs, but its not good enough.

[Scottit]

Unions have been demanding too much. They are breaking CA's budget.

The UAW killed 2 of the Big Three automakers.

Hello! We're not talking about squalid labor conditions & low wages. Things have improved & advanced much since the Steel King.

[Jploc3000]

Yes we have advanced very far from low wages and squalid labor conditions, but the UAW did not kill Chrysler and GM. Thats what Corporate thinks, but what really did bankrupt them was lessening quality and the assumption that fossil fuels will be infinite. Gas became expensive, and Chrysler & GM's large investments in SUVs failed. Ford remains UAW and theyre still around because of increasing quality. CHSR will be electric powered and in the foreseeable future, we can create a green energy grid.

[yangj08]

why not?Some people probably thought the same thing back when the first Shinkansen started running in Japan- the service was already covered by aircraft, how would rail make a profit off that? It did, and still does even now. Los Angeles and San Diego airports are getting too crowded- high-speed rail would remove the need for non-stop air links between the two and would also make surrounding airports viable targets for shifting out domestic/trans-border (as opposed to intercontinental) service.

[Scottit]

Japan has many differences: cities closer, much higher density, higher populations, less income, straight route rail already existed, far fewer mountains by route. You are mistaken on the profit. Do more research, especially on the capital costs; in other words bonds need to be paid off.

Is there a reason for an airplane to stop between LA & San Diego? Those flights are very small % of all traffic.

What does the HSR have to do with smaller airports? You say shifting targets. ???

[yangj08]

1. Sounds like Cali to me.

2. Yes, there are LA-SD flights. They last 45 minutes. These are flights that could be removed with HSR.

3. I laid it all out clearly enough- if you look at the proposed route map the proposed HSR system will stop at a few regional airports along the way. Linking LA or San Diego to these smaller airports opens the door for them to handle the long-distance traffic they couldn't handle without the passengers to support it and relieves the need to build LAX or SAN out.

[Scottit]

I didn't ask if there are LA-SD flights. I asked where would those flights stop between, because you said something about non-stop.

Why would HSR stop at an airport? People rarely take both train & plane. People don't live near an airport or visit near an airport.

No connection to more air traffic at small airports or why that is wanted. Most airports' traffic is for well over 500 miles away. HSR has nothing to do w/those trips.

Ignore the construction cost at $3,000/CA worker.

Worth it?

[Scottit]

Your "1." point: What sounds like Cali? Japan? You are mistaken again.

[yangj08]

Both places have lots of earthquakes. Both cities have large metropolitan areas separated by large swathes of countryside (what, you thought Japan was all urban?). Both places have a northern region that is sparsely inhabited (Oregon border for California, northern Hokkaido for Japan), and if you're going to mention that, Japan has illegals just like California. The big difference is that Japan has a rail network that covers practically every town.

[yangj08]

1. Escondido. Irvine. Santa Ana. But a flight that actually did all that would cost too much, not to mention they don't have airports.

2.Cheaper than a cab and easier than a car rental for newcomers- follow the signs at the airport and be downtown within the hour rather than pay through the nose for a cab or get lost in a rental car.

3. On the contrary, there's plenty of intra-state traffic that would be best moved to the rails rather than taking up airport slots.

4. Yes.

[Jploc3000]

What Yang and I are saying is that LAX and SAN are over crowded. Both want to alieviate traffic to nearby airports. LAX wants to have more int'l there and more domestic traffic at ONT and Palmdale and Longbeach. HSR can stop at airports for compatibility with their car rental facilities and link to greater connections at the airport. People in Fresno can rail to SFO and connect to Tokyo. People in Temecula can go to ONT and go to NYC.

[Jploc3000]

We all know Japan and California sound different. So dont waste time saying it is, we all know he means that the project seems similar. Japans Osaka to Tokyo HSR is more mountainous. CA will add more to existing ROWs. Japan has a high cost of living and yet they still use HSR. CA HSR will bring more people off freeways and planes and into trains to get people from SAN Diego to LAX and back faster. 514 planes travel from LAX to SAN every week. That makes it the 18th busiest air route in world.

[JimmySlade323]

maybe someone know what's is song in video?

[mate0719]

wooow... nice "plans" :-)

but... shinkansens??? wtf... looks cool in blue-yellow, but ... lol!

I didn't see a lot of 3D animation, but this is the best one what I ever seen! woow... fantastic & cool!

Does somebody know the song name? or is it a generated one? If no, then please reply!, if yes... then reply too =) lol...

gave 5 stars, favorited, this is cool...

[SkylineToTheSeaAndMe]

Blue and Gold (or yellow) are the California state colors.

[SD170147]

Wow, how did you make it?

[Sly88Frye]

cool!

[Scottit]

The CA HSR proposal is a political feel-good measure that is doomed.

Cost is underestimated.

Ridership is extremely overestimated.

Speed is overestimated.

Economic benefits are overestimated.

Private funding is overestimated.

Public funding is missing.

[Jploc3000]

The CA HSR is not doomed.

It has public support.

Other HSRs will accomplish CAHSR's goal for speed by the time of completion.

Ridership is only over estimated if you see today's population riding it, and it is only over estimated if the inter-California fliers don't use the HSR.

It connects many CA airports.

Private and Public funding is plentiful, and much more is expected to come from the Feds.

Economic benefits are not over estimated as it would make many jobs to make and operate the system.

[Scottit]

Public support (51%) is a lot different than plenty of money.

My list is true.

For ridership, look at the Acela & ridership of only a few million & about 50% more nearby population.

Do an online search for these 2 reports for facts:

High-Speed Rail TheWrong Road for America

The California High Speed Rail Proposal: A Due Diligence Report

[Jploc3000]

True, it did pass as Prop 1A narrowly, but that can not accurately measure public support. Not many Californians vote, many have a bad stereotype of trains. Acela only connects to one airport, CAHSR will connect to many reducing the need to fly within CA. Flying takes too much time boarding, but these trains wont. SFO-LAX and LAX-SanDiego are in the top 20 of the worlds busiest air routes. CAHSR will connect to SFO, SAN, and LAX (via buses and light rail) This is a cost-savy plan over alts

[Scottit]

Why does the airport connection matter? It doesn't. People don't fly, then get on a train, and people don't live at the airport.

How many people want to go from SF to LA?...In 2 hours longer than flying. Getting to the station & checking in will be no difference. Trains are even more of a target for disaster. The estimates are for each CA citizen to make a trip once per year.

This is hugely expensive. Please read more about it.

[Jploc3000]

Airports connections matter because proposed CHSR stations are near airports like SFO, SAN, and LAtrainStation which bus connected to LAX. Vegas has just been added to the CA Corridor in the US Dpt of Transportation which increases the already large chances of CA getting a large portion of Stimulus money to start building this thing. At least 1500 flights go from LAX to Vegas, SanDiego, and SanFrancisco each week. Thats 500 one way per route per week. O.O That's a lot of jet fuel...

[Jploc3000]

One more thing. CHSR will go to Palmdale and Ontario Airports. CHSR will also stop in San Jose, a city bigger than SFO. From SFO, you can take Bart to Oakland. LAX and SAN are past capacity and will need help. SANDiego actually considered a fast train to connect to other airports in SoCal to provide relief. CHSR will provide relief also along the crowded I-15 from LA to Vegas. CHSR will allow even the workaholics to be happy with those two extra hours of cellphone availability.

[DaaYay]

Prop 1a. barely passed at 51-52% because most people want HSR but think we cannot afford it. Not because they don't want it. It along with our budget problems made for bad timing.

"High-Speed Rail TheWrong Road for America"

That's just rediculous, Then it's good for every other country in the world except the U.S? Doesn't make sense.

[Scottit]

Less than 10% of countries have HSR.

Those that do are denser, especially the cities, which are closer together.

It makes sense on many points why HSR is terrible for the US. Please educate yourself.

The capital cost of building it will come out to over $3,000 a worker (in CA). That's incredibly expensive.

[Jploc3000]

Those countries that do are technologically advanced and developed. Not many countries need HSR. Japan builds their HSR and they do not have major problems. The US and California are technologically advanced and ready for new HSR that will save CA money because we dont need to use it for airports, seaports, highways. CHSR is an investment to save money over the long term. When has CA done that recently?

[5057357]

Acela runs on existing railroad shared with other trains. Even if the tracks can support such speed the FRA limit it to speeds of 150mph

[Scottit]

What's your point? You have added nothing.

That speed limit is wrong. It depends if there is grade separation.

[MrEiriku]

@Scottit douchebag

[DominatorMatrix]

So lifelike! Nice music also :)

[FullMentalPanic]

These guys sure have a way with making inspirational videos for transit projects!

[ahoog69]

This is great, and it's about time!  Be sure to look up "Vectus" to see a well-thought-out, complimentary urban transportation system that would help support high-speed rail.

[Modeltrainguy]

Excellent Video (and Music)!

Best of luck to Califonia High Speed Rail! It LOOKS like it will finally happen. Long Overdue...since 1982!

[Scottit]

@Modeltrainguy Overdue? Underdone.

What else could $50 billion+ pay for?

Enough to double freeway miles in CA, much more useful & needed, and much more traveled, including goods transport.

Where is this money coming from?

The ticket price won't even cover operating costs, which is beyond that huge capital cost.

[DaaYay]

@Scottit Captial costs NO, Operating costs Yes. I assure you, their are many examples already out their to model, no need to pull out your glass ball. At least $80 Billion are in the process of being identified for our future freeway needs. State Route 99 alone would cost $25 Billion to a badly needed expansion and upgrade to Interstate. Multiple Freeway Projects in Southern Cal. are costing $5-$6 Billion a pop, so while that sneaks out the back you complain about future econmic prosperity.

[DaaYay]

@Scottit "Where is this money coming from?"

It's coming from us, California is the wealthiest State in the Union and we are NOT broke. We just need to catch up to our spending and by that I mean cut wastefull spending by first kicking everybody out of Sacramento and putting economic savy individuals and NO Politicians. Since that will never happen we will always be in some sort of debt all the meanwhile we (California) subsidizes the entire country while we get nothing back. I'm not joking.

[tylertyler82]

High Speed Rail for California! I am so excited to be a Californian and San Franciscan in order to create a greater and more awe inspriring state.

[HaydenFSX]

nice, glad prop 1a passed