It's sad how these people are ganging up on her. And the birthing expert is not an expert all. Uninformed people always bring up all those scary "complications," like having the cord wrapped around the baby's neck, as if it's a problem only a doctor can fix. Things happen, but a woman & partner can be totally prepared to deal with anything as long as they aren't freaked out and take action. A baby can also go about 10 min without breathing if still attached to the placenta.
It makes me sad that so many women have had horrible hospital experiences. I had 2 great hospital experiences but I think the hospital I went to was more of a homey feel and really made me feel at ease. I am glad my first was born in the hospital because she did almost die but the quick thinking nurses saved her. Kudos to those who do it at home. These people just attacked these ladies. Yikes. U have the right to birth the way you choose.
You won't know when your giving birth lol! When a woman feels the pain of contractions trying to push her baby through the birth canal into this world. When she feels a head bearing down & making it's way out, when she feels a burning sensation of having to push a babies head out, because the contractions are telling her body to do so. She had no idea shes giving birth, only someone trained in childbirth, but who's own body is not in childbirth with her baby knows her body & knows her baby!
@mylovesofmylife They were talking about fetal distress when the midwife said that one sentence. It's true, if the baby is not coping well or the heart rate is plummeting, YOU won't know that when you're in the process giving birth at home with no monitors or trained medical professionals.
What about babies that die through the very common practice of Hospital births, & there births were handled with what medical professionals & people define as expertise medical intervention & training to help prevent infanst & mothers from dying. These infants die or mothers & infants both die even though expertise medical intervention & expertise training was there to prevent those deaths of infants & mothers in childbirth. Hospital & Birth Centre Births more common then Home Birth & Free Birth
Of course no pregnancy and labor is the same for each woman, An educated choice for a High risk pregnancy, would be to have someone with expertise to attend that birth in a hospital/medical facility. A pregnancy that has progressed smoothly & naturally, with a baby who is found to be in a normal position for childbirth, a woman needs to make an educated choice on how she feels her body & baby can handle childbirth with a plan in place to prevent complications & a plan to handle an emergency.
A woman, can know her body, know when her baby turns through flipping & the baby's head is head down in her pelvis. Since only she can feel the babies head in her pelvis in preparation for labor.. She knows the contractions only she feels, that others not giving birth to her baby, can't feel. She knows her body is telling her to push a head out. Healthy Term Babies in a natural birthing postion that is not dangerous) get ready for labor after developing survival reflexs in the womb.
If I did not have my prenatal care booklet in my glove box, I would have had to give birth to my 3rd child rapidly at 7 pounds 13 oz & 52cm in the car. Er staff asked me if I knew I was in labor. I told them this is my 3rd rapid labor in progress, since I had 2 babies radpidly before, the 1st born rapidly & sick due to intervention in the ER. But only going back to collect my prenatal booklet while I was in rapid labor was I allowed into labor and delivery! My waters had started to leak at home.
IF a home birthing midwife throught labor would not continue succesfully for a lady, she could always call an ambulance before labor progressed to a dangerous point.
I had the heart monitor strapped on my belly with my 1st, she was not in distress, but her birth process became unatural with OB's peforming AROM/ARM during the end of the labor, she had developed TTN shortly after birth, which the NNU wrongly diagnosed her with suspected sepsis before changing the diagnosis to TTN after she was discharged. 2nd and 3rd even more rapid but NVD's all born healthy, 2nd had the cord wrapped around his neck twice, he came out healthy, with dad able to cut the cord.
Amazing! The amount of rubbish that is spouted about childbirth and everyone thinks they are right. We are all individuals and should all be allowed our own opinions.
I am all for natural birth and labour! having a homebirth with a midwife present, even if you want her to be in a different room,only to be called upon if absolutely necessary sounds like a better idea to me!
birthing alone may work for some people but there will be others who will live to regret their decision! play with fire and you will get your fingers burnt
Birth is natural, it is a shame that Fern and Phillip are so for the medical model, and Clare Byam Cook is never a good 'expert' to have on as she is always so negative.
I had both of my children at home with midwives, no painkillers, no episiotomy, no fighting with hospital staff over rooming in, bottle feeding, CIRCUMCISION (insanity), IVs, etc.
For those of you who think this is reckless behavior, do some research! I did and that is why I chose homebirth.
I also believe in attachment parenting, the family bed & child-led weaning. And the results of these practices can be seen in my beautiful, healthy and smart children, now ages 21 and 15!
a homebirth with a midwife present, and also a second midwife (in most cases) is not the same as a freebirth! I am a huge advocate for natural labour and childbirth but freebirthing, in my opinion is reckless behaviour! very dangerous! labours which are progressing normally can go horribly wrong in a matter of seconds...with qualified midwives present mum and baby have a good fighting chance...on your own? not a gd idea!
Hello, cord around the neck is a very usual, and not dangerous event (30% of all birth) and it solves smoothly without interference (but maybe not, of the woman has to lay flat on her back and everybody around turns crazy). This is called the Somersault-maneuver. But these experts have obviously never heard of that. As I hear them talk I know once more why I do not want these fearful people at my births.
These trained people are so full of fear. They fear birth and that's why they want it controlled. If you tell them you don't need their controll they start panicking. At the same time they firmly believe birth does not work without them and all who still survive a freebirth are lucky fools.
Well, I am *sure* that there is an emergency plan in place in case of complications. You may not be aware that the majority of complications are caused by medical interference in a natural process.
to be honest l feel sorry for the baby coz if their is trouble the only experts have a one hour resus training......call the midwife for the baby and if u in trouble look after yourself but dont put babies at risk very daft idea
How many women and babies die in the hosptial? I will be having my first baby as a home water birth w/ a certified midwife and i couldnt be any happier. I couldnt imagine being in a hospital aka sick house, i am not sick i am pregnant by the way, and having every dick and harry snif up my crotch. I want to be able to move and birth the way i want to not lying on my back trying to push out a 7 + baby. HOW CRAZY!!
well im verry happy that i gave birth in the hospital, i had a wonderful experience overall. i had very minor complications in the beginning that got worked out quickly because i had access to the medical care needed :) in fact when i have another baby i want to go back to the same hospital
I hate the way free birthers diss anyone who doesn't agree with them. You are entitled to your opinion as much as the next person, so let people who think it's risky and dangerous say so with out being so damn rude.
When the first entirely preventable death occurs to a baby or a mother (and it will occur) then perhaps free birthers will think again. The medical profession aren't out to get everyone.
None of the arguments I have seen above are rude at all, they are very well articulated. If you have such an issue with unassisted childbirth by all means let the doctors take care of it for you. No point in arguing with anyone it doesn't do you any good, just gets you heated up over nothing. I don't even know why you are watching this video if you don't agree with it. I wouldn't watch something I didn't like. But maybe that's just me :)
I had an unassisted homebirth with my twins. Breech to boot! Everything was fine and the only reason why I had a hoospital birth with my youngest is because my husband felt better about it. I am pregnant again and my husband will be deployed in Iraq and I plan to have another unassisted birth.
They have two people attacking her one on each side. The cord wrapped around the neck is very common and yes the birthing women herself can feel and unwind it.
What exactly do you think the native american or any other ancient people did? Sure they had midwives but their midwives didn't do or have the state regulations that ours do. People had babies in many ways without any medical help and they were private and intimate with the fathers just like the making of the baby. Doctors or midwives don't stand and monitor when you are having sex and making the baby so why should they be there when you are giving birth. It was her right to control her bir.
The information the mid-wife gave about fetal distress is absolutely false! That's the same type of fear mongering that is used in hospitals to justify unnecessary c-sections. Like Claire states, if there is a serious problem in the majority of cases labor does not progress very well and then you know it's time to go to the hospital. This "four minute" time window is only a precautionary window and in the majority of cases when an infant is born with a nuchal cord, it recovers just fine.
Well if you want to take that risk with your children then you go right ahead. I'll put my faith in a four minute time window. Lets wrap curtain cords around your neck and pull it progressively tighter. Lets see how you are after 5 minutes+ shall we, if you're still breathing. ;-)
cesearean sections for fetal distress in hospitals are only carried out if there is a fetal bradycardia with no recovery or if blood samples from the baby's head have an acidic pH....i would love to know where you get your information from? please also post the reference for the research on your fetal distress hypothesis as i would like to read it
Whe I was in labour a midwife said to me " you're labour is not progressing as fast as WE would like you to, so we're giving you Oxytocin" her exact words. From the moment my drip was put it, labour was unbearable! I felt that because I wasn't going by the book, intervention was enivitable. I hated every moment in hospital, and vowed never to have another baby there!
Get away with it? I love it when they say things like that. They make you want to feel lucky that you survived labour, making labour seem like a life threatening illness! I'm all for freebirth, just a mother and her child... just how it's supposed to be!
i feel that they attacked Clair because they have this vision in their head that birth is a medical procedure it's not I'm a very private person and when i gave birth to my first child i was so embarrassed and afraid of what everyone in the room would think, that i didn't even get comfortable i had only met my birthing doctor once before and i was completely terrified
Thumbs up for the woman who take control of their bodies and their labors and and extra thumbs up for the women who support them and the men and fathers who assist and catch their babies. No better way to welcome your baby into the world. Stay strong and determined and informed.
Thanks for your comments and good luck with baby number 7. However, it's not just the men and fathers who catch their babies... look up Outlaw Births to watch Clair's birth, and you'll see me (her girlfriend!) catching our son.
Giving birth at home alone is not illegal but other people, fathers or not, cannot intentionally take part in a "freebirth" without a qualified practitioner present! that is illegal! so i would be very careful about encouraging people to 'assist'.......it could land u in a prison cell.
@maria1986reynolds Giving birth at home is NOT ILLEGAL! If you choose to birth your baby at home how is that a crime? Who are you committing a crime against? Where do you get your information? You do not know the facts dear. A woman can give birth at home. Her husband or whatever person of her choice can assist in the delivery. It happens and there is nothing anyone can do about it. It is a womans body, baby and choice. I'm still wondering when it becomes a illegal as you mentioned???
I'm pregnant with baby number 7 and very experienced with knowing when I'm dilating because I feel it. Especially at 7-10 cm. Also once I start throwing up which I've done in all my labors, the baby comes out within 5 minutes.
If something goes wrong? Things go wrong in a hospital setting all the time. An informed mother should at least have the husband or another woman to dial 911 just in case. I free birthed my last child, and had a midwife but she left me at 5cm because she thought I was not in real labor. Well I gave birth 3hr after she abandoned me on my bathroom floor.
I did not intend to free birth but I did and my baby was fine thank God. I am pregnant again and plan to free birth.
i think its stupid to not have anyone there, having a midwife present but explaining you dont want any monitoring etc or any assistance unless absolutely vital is a more sensible option.
you dont always know when something is wrong with your baby, i've know it happen to people where the cord is round the neck tightly and you cant tell.
im all for home births and doing it as nature intended but i think with a totally free birth theres too much risk involved.
Yes, it's really great to not be subjected to the controlling attitude and actions of the nurses and docs. Some 'routine procedures' carried out to pass the time and make the woman dependant and compliant are very invasive and can really bring a woman down if she feels like her body is being treated as an object and not kindly either. Birthing unhindered can only be a positive thing for women.
yeah, "YOU WON'T KNOW" about the baby being in distress cos it's got the cord wrapped around it's neck.
I am sure that any woman who decides to go ahead with a Freebirth will have done her research and will be so finely tuned with her baby that she WILL KNOW if the baby is in distress.
We saw earlier other mothers actually checking the heart beat of the baby whilst in the birthing pool. Are we not equipped to be more in tune with our baby than anyone else? Of course we are!
Not true. There are good midwives out there who are willing to just stand guard in case anything goes wrong. And it's not that doctors are stupid or want to scare people, but I think they unintentionally do because of misinformation that's been passed down in the medical community from the days of "science knows best", and also inexperienced doctors who try to follow their medical training too closely without taking into account natural human variation.
You don't have to debate it, but don't make comments in a public forum and not expect people to comment back. Making a comment like doctors and midwives "love" to scare people, rather than something more rational like being poorly trained, inexperienced, or jaded towards their work, is an irrational statement. If your representing a side that the general population already finds a little radical, then it's best not to throw irrational on top of it.
And for the record, I've also decided that when I have kids I'd like to have a home birth (with a mid-wife present though) because it is my personal opinion that it does more harm than good when women with a low risk pregnancy are admitted to a hospital to give birth. It's not because I'm scarred of doctors. In fact, I personally know an OB-Gyn. He's a nice guy, and very smart too.
There are homebirth midwives in the UK but Clair felt comfortable giving birth on her own. Midwives are required to check dilation, monitor the baby's heartrate and perform other proceedures which many women feel are invasive and actually disrupt labor. There are time limits for the various stages of labor and if a woman takes "too long" to deliver her baby or the placenta she must be transported to the hospital. In a freebirth a woman can give birth in her own time and her own way.
I'm confused b/c all I hear about is the option of a midwife in the hospital. Are there no homebirth midwives in England? I'm very much in favor of unassisted birth, don't get me wrong. I hope to freebirth the next time after having a problem with my midwife here in the U.S.
It's sad how these people are ganging up on her. And the birthing expert is not an expert all. Uninformed people always bring up all those scary "complications," like having the cord wrapped around the baby's neck, as if it's a problem only a doctor can fix. Things happen, but a woman & partner can be totally prepared to deal with anything as long as they aren't freaked out and take action. A baby can also go about 10 min without breathing if still attached to the placenta.
cafeaukitty 1 month ago
It makes me sad that so many women have had horrible hospital experiences. I had 2 great hospital experiences but I think the hospital I went to was more of a homey feel and really made me feel at ease. I am glad my first was born in the hospital because she did almost die but the quick thinking nurses saved her. Kudos to those who do it at home. These people just attacked these ladies. Yikes. U have the right to birth the way you choose.
Kwazziegirls 2 months ago
"if-if I think I would have, done what I had to do..." sounds like she isn't prepared judging by the say she's responding George W. Bush style.
"Birth is a natural and it will go to plan" she seems to forget that women would often die in chihldbirth before the days of modern medicine. SMH
DragonFly122 4 months ago
You won't know when your giving birth lol! When a woman feels the pain of contractions trying to push her baby through the birth canal into this world. When she feels a head bearing down & making it's way out, when she feels a burning sensation of having to push a babies head out, because the contractions are telling her body to do so. She had no idea shes giving birth, only someone trained in childbirth, but who's own body is not in childbirth with her baby knows her body & knows her baby!
mylovesofmylife 8 months ago
@mylovesofmylife They were talking about fetal distress when the midwife said that one sentence. It's true, if the baby is not coping well or the heart rate is plummeting, YOU won't know that when you're in the process giving birth at home with no monitors or trained medical professionals.
glo417 4 months ago 2
What about babies that die through the very common practice of Hospital births, & there births were handled with what medical professionals & people define as expertise medical intervention & training to help prevent infanst & mothers from dying. These infants die or mothers & infants both die even though expertise medical intervention & expertise training was there to prevent those deaths of infants & mothers in childbirth. Hospital & Birth Centre Births more common then Home Birth & Free Birth
mylovesofmylife 8 months ago
Of course no pregnancy and labor is the same for each woman, An educated choice for a High risk pregnancy, would be to have someone with expertise to attend that birth in a hospital/medical facility. A pregnancy that has progressed smoothly & naturally, with a baby who is found to be in a normal position for childbirth, a woman needs to make an educated choice on how she feels her body & baby can handle childbirth with a plan in place to prevent complications & a plan to handle an emergency.
mylovesofmylife 8 months ago
A woman, can know her body, know when her baby turns through flipping & the baby's head is head down in her pelvis. Since only she can feel the babies head in her pelvis in preparation for labor.. She knows the contractions only she feels, that others not giving birth to her baby, can't feel. She knows her body is telling her to push a head out. Healthy Term Babies in a natural birthing postion that is not dangerous) get ready for labor after developing survival reflexs in the womb.
mylovesofmylife 8 months ago
If I did not have my prenatal care booklet in my glove box, I would have had to give birth to my 3rd child rapidly at 7 pounds 13 oz & 52cm in the car. Er staff asked me if I knew I was in labor. I told them this is my 3rd rapid labor in progress, since I had 2 babies radpidly before, the 1st born rapidly & sick due to intervention in the ER. But only going back to collect my prenatal booklet while I was in rapid labor was I allowed into labor and delivery! My waters had started to leak at home.
mylovesofmylife 8 months ago
IF a home birthing midwife throught labor would not continue succesfully for a lady, she could always call an ambulance before labor progressed to a dangerous point.
mylovesofmylife 8 months ago
Im pregnant with my 4th baby due November 6th 2011
mylovesofmylife 8 months ago
I had the heart monitor strapped on my belly with my 1st, she was not in distress, but her birth process became unatural with OB's peforming AROM/ARM during the end of the labor, she had developed TTN shortly after birth, which the NNU wrongly diagnosed her with suspected sepsis before changing the diagnosis to TTN after she was discharged. 2nd and 3rd even more rapid but NVD's all born healthy, 2nd had the cord wrapped around his neck twice, he came out healthy, with dad able to cut the cord.
mylovesofmylife 8 months ago
Amazing! The amount of rubbish that is spouted about childbirth and everyone thinks they are right. We are all individuals and should all be allowed our own opinions.
missfifibelle 11 months ago
I am all for natural birth and labour! having a homebirth with a midwife present, even if you want her to be in a different room,only to be called upon if absolutely necessary sounds like a better idea to me!
birthing alone may work for some people but there will be others who will live to regret their decision! play with fire and you will get your fingers burnt
any1 considereda fetal bradycardia? cord prolapse? shoulder dystocia? post partum haemorrhage? undiagnosed breech?
maria1986reynolds 1 year ago
Birth is natural, it is a shame that Fern and Phillip are so for the medical model, and Clare Byam Cook is never a good 'expert' to have on as she is always so negative.
owenbray 1 year ago
I had both of my children at home with midwives, no painkillers, no episiotomy, no fighting with hospital staff over rooming in, bottle feeding, CIRCUMCISION (insanity), IVs, etc.
For those of you who think this is reckless behavior, do some research! I did and that is why I chose homebirth.
I also believe in attachment parenting, the family bed & child-led weaning. And the results of these practices can be seen in my beautiful, healthy and smart children, now ages 21 and 15!
carriellbee 2 years ago 2
@carriellbee YAY!!! What a good mum you are :)))))
JayJayHale 1 year ago
@carriellbee
a homebirth with a midwife present, and also a second midwife (in most cases) is not the same as a freebirth! I am a huge advocate for natural labour and childbirth but freebirthing, in my opinion is reckless behaviour! very dangerous! labours which are progressing normally can go horribly wrong in a matter of seconds...with qualified midwives present mum and baby have a good fighting chance...on your own? not a gd idea!
maria1986reynolds 1 year ago
Hello, cord around the neck is a very usual, and not dangerous event (30% of all birth) and it solves smoothly without interference (but maybe not, of the woman has to lay flat on her back and everybody around turns crazy). This is called the Somersault-maneuver. But these experts have obviously never heard of that. As I hear them talk I know once more why I do not want these fearful people at my births.
owakihi 2 years ago
These trained people are so full of fear. They fear birth and that's why they want it controlled. If you tell them you don't need their controll they start panicking. At the same time they firmly believe birth does not work without them and all who still survive a freebirth are lucky fools.
owakihi 2 years ago
This is really sad; where I come from (NZ) we are encouraged to give birth at home...
TheXxyy 2 years ago
@TheXxyy Yeah NZ is awesome...I wish Australia had the same principals as NZ
JayJayHale 1 year ago
@TheXxyy
giving birth at home with a qualified practitioner present is not the same as a freebirth!
maria1986reynolds 1 year ago
If I had "freebirthed" at home both my baby and I would be dead.
elliottrachel 2 years ago
@elliottrachel
Well, I am *sure* that there is an emergency plan in place in case of complications. You may not be aware that the majority of complications are caused by medical interference in a natural process.
carriellbee 2 years ago
I want to ask what training the mum needs to be able to take the cord from the babies neck....?
Why is it mm always think they know more about pregnancy, dilating and pushing a baby out ..! Makes me laugh!
Well done to the lady, need more people like her and me to see that Pregnancy and birth is NOT and should NOT be a medical
Procedure !!!!!!
sonia205 2 years ago 2
to be honest l feel sorry for the baby coz if their is trouble the only experts have a one hour resus training......call the midwife for the baby and if u in trouble look after yourself but dont put babies at risk very daft idea
andysemakula 2 years ago
How many women and babies die in the hosptial? I will be having my first baby as a home water birth w/ a certified midwife and i couldnt be any happier. I couldnt imagine being in a hospital aka sick house, i am not sick i am pregnant by the way, and having every dick and harry snif up my crotch. I want to be able to move and birth the way i want to not lying on my back trying to push out a 7 + baby. HOW CRAZY!!
AnniaMarie 2 years ago 7
well im verry happy that i gave birth in the hospital, i had a wonderful experience overall. i had very minor complications in the beginning that got worked out quickly because i had access to the medical care needed :) in fact when i have another baby i want to go back to the same hospital
iluvamedic 2 years ago 2
utter stupidity...im all for natural births but with a 4 minute window it certainly isnt worth the risk.
BooAimee92 2 years ago
@BooAimee92 This is very rare..this woman was wrong...7minute window.
JayJayHale 1 year ago
I hate the way free birthers diss anyone who doesn't agree with them. You are entitled to your opinion as much as the next person, so let people who think it's risky and dangerous say so with out being so damn rude.
When the first entirely preventable death occurs to a baby or a mother (and it will occur) then perhaps free birthers will think again. The medical profession aren't out to get everyone.
AmelieYvette 2 years ago
None of the arguments I have seen above are rude at all, they are very well articulated. If you have such an issue with unassisted childbirth by all means let the doctors take care of it for you. No point in arguing with anyone it doesn't do you any good, just gets you heated up over nothing. I don't even know why you are watching this video if you don't agree with it. I wouldn't watch something I didn't like. But maybe that's just me :)
Xinoutorah 2 years ago
if a baby dies thats not so bad , they can make another
orangestoneface 2 years ago
I had an unassisted homebirth with my twins. Breech to boot! Everything was fine and the only reason why I had a hoospital birth with my youngest is because my husband felt better about it. I am pregnant again and my husband will be deployed in Iraq and I plan to have another unassisted birth.
loganmyangel 2 years ago 6
They have two people attacking her one on each side. The cord wrapped around the neck is very common and yes the birthing women herself can feel and unwind it.
eatonweeks 2 years ago 4
What exactly do you think the native american or any other ancient people did? Sure they had midwives but their midwives didn't do or have the state regulations that ours do. People had babies in many ways without any medical help and they were private and intimate with the fathers just like the making of the baby. Doctors or midwives don't stand and monitor when you are having sex and making the baby so why should they be there when you are giving birth. It was her right to control her bir.
YaHuWaHsaves6008 3 years ago 3
The information the mid-wife gave about fetal distress is absolutely false! That's the same type of fear mongering that is used in hospitals to justify unnecessary c-sections. Like Claire states, if there is a serious problem in the majority of cases labor does not progress very well and then you know it's time to go to the hospital. This "four minute" time window is only a precautionary window and in the majority of cases when an infant is born with a nuchal cord, it recovers just fine.
KWalsh554 3 years ago 2
Well if you want to take that risk with your children then you go right ahead. I'll put my faith in a four minute time window. Lets wrap curtain cords around your neck and pull it progressively tighter. Lets see how you are after 5 minutes+ shall we, if you're still breathing. ;-)
AmelieYvette 2 years ago
Ah, this statement isn't rude at all is it? Let each to her own, will you?
Xinoutorah 2 years ago
@KWalsh554
cesearean sections for fetal distress in hospitals are only carried out if there is a fetal bradycardia with no recovery or if blood samples from the baby's head have an acidic pH....i would love to know where you get your information from? please also post the reference for the research on your fetal distress hypothesis as i would like to read it
maria1986reynolds 1 year ago
this is stupid and dangerous and those that do this are morons
BrendanIsCool 3 years ago
That midwife is an idiot
butterflie2484 3 years ago
Whe I was in labour a midwife said to me " you're labour is not progressing as fast as WE would like you to, so we're giving you Oxytocin" her exact words. From the moment my drip was put it, labour was unbearable! I felt that because I wasn't going by the book, intervention was enivitable. I hated every moment in hospital, and vowed never to have another baby there!
amyj86 3 years ago 3
Get away with it? I love it when they say things like that. They make you want to feel lucky that you survived labour, making labour seem like a life threatening illness! I'm all for freebirth, just a mother and her child... just how it's supposed to be!
amyj86 3 years ago 4
i feel that they attacked Clair because they have this vision in their head that birth is a medical procedure it's not I'm a very private person and when i gave birth to my first child i was so embarrassed and afraid of what everyone in the room would think, that i didn't even get comfortable i had only met my birthing doctor once before and i was completely terrified
hotmomajenn 3 years ago 12
it aall came down to money at the end there...
Indogo 3 years ago 2
Really? Please, do tell how you formed this opinion? (Clair was not paid for any of the press or the show).
yasbayat 3 years ago
Thumbs up for the woman who take control of their bodies and their labors and and extra thumbs up for the women who support them and the men and fathers who assist and catch their babies. No better way to welcome your baby into the world. Stay strong and determined and informed.
ttdean 3 years ago 17
Thanks for your comments and good luck with baby number 7. However, it's not just the men and fathers who catch their babies... look up Outlaw Births to watch Clair's birth, and you'll see me (her girlfriend!) catching our son.
yasbayat 3 years ago 2
@ttdean
Giving birth at home alone is not illegal but other people, fathers or not, cannot intentionally take part in a "freebirth" without a qualified practitioner present! that is illegal! so i would be very careful about encouraging people to 'assist'.......it could land u in a prison cell.
maria1986reynolds 1 year ago
@maria1986reynolds Giving birth at home is NOT ILLEGAL! If you choose to birth your baby at home how is that a crime? Who are you committing a crime against? Where do you get your information? You do not know the facts dear. A woman can give birth at home. Her husband or whatever person of her choice can assist in the delivery. It happens and there is nothing anyone can do about it. It is a womans body, baby and choice. I'm still wondering when it becomes a illegal as you mentioned???
ttdean 1 year ago
I'm pregnant with baby number 7 and very experienced with knowing when I'm dilating because I feel it. Especially at 7-10 cm. Also once I start throwing up which I've done in all my labors, the baby comes out within 5 minutes.
ttdean 3 years ago
If something goes wrong? Things go wrong in a hospital setting all the time. An informed mother should at least have the husband or another woman to dial 911 just in case. I free birthed my last child, and had a midwife but she left me at 5cm because she thought I was not in real labor. Well I gave birth 3hr after she abandoned me on my bathroom floor.
I did not intend to free birth but I did and my baby was fine thank God. I am pregnant again and plan to free birth.
ttdean 3 years ago 3
i think its stupid to not have anyone there, having a midwife present but explaining you dont want any monitoring etc or any assistance unless absolutely vital is a more sensible option.
you dont always know when something is wrong with your baby, i've know it happen to people where the cord is round the neck tightly and you cant tell.
im all for home births and doing it as nature intended but i think with a totally free birth theres too much risk involved.
xgothxbarbiex 3 years ago
The thing is, if the midwife is there, they have to do checks and monitoring for the book.
LilaMae99 3 years ago 2
Yes, it's really great to not be subjected to the controlling attitude and actions of the nurses and docs. Some 'routine procedures' carried out to pass the time and make the woman dependant and compliant are very invasive and can really bring a woman down if she feels like her body is being treated as an object and not kindly either. Birthing unhindered can only be a positive thing for women.
smmeegal 3 years ago 4
yeah, "YOU WON'T KNOW" about the baby being in distress cos it's got the cord wrapped around it's neck.
I am sure that any woman who decides to go ahead with a Freebirth will have done her research and will be so finely tuned with her baby that she WILL KNOW if the baby is in distress.
We saw earlier other mothers actually checking the heart beat of the baby whilst in the birthing pool. Are we not equipped to be more in tune with our baby than anyone else? Of course we are!
tracyeldred 3 years ago 5
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KittyMeow202 3 years ago 2
That is one hell of a sweeping generalisation kitty. Where's your evidence that they "LOVE to scare women"?
ollyhargrove 3 years ago
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KittyMeow202 3 years ago
Not true. There are good midwives out there who are willing to just stand guard in case anything goes wrong. And it's not that doctors are stupid or want to scare people, but I think they unintentionally do because of misinformation that's been passed down in the medical community from the days of "science knows best", and also inexperienced doctors who try to follow their medical training too closely without taking into account natural human variation.
KWalsh554 3 years ago 2
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KittyMeow202 3 years ago
You don't have to debate it, but don't make comments in a public forum and not expect people to comment back. Making a comment like doctors and midwives "love" to scare people, rather than something more rational like being poorly trained, inexperienced, or jaded towards their work, is an irrational statement. If your representing a side that the general population already finds a little radical, then it's best not to throw irrational on top of it.
KWalsh554 3 years ago
And for the record, I've also decided that when I have kids I'd like to have a home birth (with a mid-wife present though) because it is my personal opinion that it does more harm than good when women with a low risk pregnancy are admitted to a hospital to give birth. It's not because I'm scarred of doctors. In fact, I personally know an OB-Gyn. He's a nice guy, and very smart too.
KWalsh554 3 years ago 2
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KittyMeow202 3 years ago
There are homebirth midwives in the UK but Clair felt comfortable giving birth on her own. Midwives are required to check dilation, monitor the baby's heartrate and perform other proceedures which many women feel are invasive and actually disrupt labor. There are time limits for the various stages of labor and if a woman takes "too long" to deliver her baby or the placenta she must be transported to the hospital. In a freebirth a woman can give birth in her own time and her own way.
laurashanley 3 years ago 4
I'm confused b/c all I hear about is the option of a midwife in the hospital. Are there no homebirth midwives in England? I'm very much in favor of unassisted birth, don't get me wrong. I hope to freebirth the next time after having a problem with my midwife here in the U.S.
RaeneDay 3 years ago 2