Doxi99 I will admit when im wrong im not a man to hide and booster when I am wrong your argument is better,, no we didn’t touch England and yes I consider we winning that war. I will admit you are right the Vietnamese did meet there goal and they did defeat us...If more people like you argued with Intelligence this would be a great world..
Europeans didn't win against the Mongols, they were only lucky that the Great Khan at that time died whereas Japan was only lucky because of a storm. In short, Europe would have been destroyed because knights are worthless and useless against Mongols if the Khan didn't die and given that the concept of Samurai is the same as the European knights, Japan would likely be decimated had the storm didn't appear.
Nope, forested areas would make cavalry worthless. Europeans did win battles keeping the mongs at a stalemate. the mongs even left behind forces and they still couldn't take on europe. Japan proved its worth when they wouldn't even allow the mongs so much as a hold on the shores after their first encounter. The samurai held their own. lol
For some reason, the way NopeJPeg mention Japan is like what typical weaboos would without looking at facts: Japan only managed to survive because of a natural event called "typhoon" and that the Mongols are not good as a naval force. Have they got at least an efficient navy, parts of Japan would likely fall even if they (Japanese) erects coastline fortresses.
And also it has already been proven that the medieval tactics Europeans employ (chivalry and knightly warfare) failed miserably.
You're talking about Eastern Europeans and not the heavier forested areas of northern Europe nor the more moist climate of Western Europe (when compared the dry steppes). "Have they got an efficient navy" LULZ So the argument goes that "they got inferior numbers compared to their opponents and still won" but you'd think that an army of "demi-gods" with a substandard navy couldn't accomplish taking over a small island? LMAO So much for demi-god status. The Japs withstood against them..
and won typhoon or not. The fact that they didn't allow the mongs a proper foothold on the beach means they were excellent at repelling the barbarians. Like a game of soccer: you don't allow the opposing team to even get near the goal rerouting them everytime. That's the mark of a good force. Samurai >> mongs.
BTW, not a weeaboo but I'm sure your a mongtard. lol pwned
@NopeJPeg not a Mongtard here but without the Mongols, I doubt that the Europeans would find alternative ways to get to Asia.
You talk like as if you want to demonize the Mongols. Sure the Mongols cannot take Western Europe, but the West Europeans will be stuck on their lands because any attempts to fight the Mongols beyond their territory will be devastating to the Europeans unless they drop their chivalry-based tactics.
Yea viet nam beat us the usa My home land didnt get touch ..you guys lost over 2 million women men and children...we just stop fighting not that you could beat us we just stoped...Not one hair in are homeland was touched so How could you say you can beat us...Get real
If by winning war means you have to defeat and conquer a country then american never won the independent war against the British because England was also untouched by the americans.
@ngen1 People always forget that the Mongols had TWO attempted invasions of Japan, 1274 and 1281. The first invasion was a victory for Japan and forced the Mongols to retreat to the ships. The Japanese then built a wall around their shores. The Mongol ships returned then got stuck in the bay until a storm destroyed most of them.
No, Vietnam war was a limited war. It had to be so because the last invasion of a communist country in Asia led to a Chinese counter invasion. So Vietnam could never evolve into that. In order to avoid direct conflict with China, ground battles were strictly fought in South Vietnam.
During the vietnam war america did have enough nuclear weapons to flatten that country. they were geared up to take russia on with a full nuclear exchange. If america was bent on full-scale release then vietnam would've been a wasteland in a day. America would've looked really bad if they nuked a whole country, especially from the fallout in adjacent countries. Currently america has 1950 active warheads, 8500 total and thats after scaling it down. And no, im not american or european.
It's true that Japanese didn't defeat 40,000 Kori-Mongol allied forces. Both Korean and Mongolian commanders led the allied forces, they landed on Japanese islands such as Iki, Tsushima, and Kyushu and swept there. But there was the conflict of opinion between the generals from two countries and what was worse a typhoon struck at the battlefield. Finally, the generals decided to withdraw their forces. Japanese was just lucky.
@ngen1 Well aren't we rash and headstrong. You seem to lack the common sense of rationalizing between cultural perceptions of Americans and the truth that people in the United States of America do not all share the same narrow view point about history. P.S. You also seem to lack Kublai Khan's sense of diplomacy and you lose ten points. , good day :)
Look at how the douchebags come out of the woodwork to argue about how great their stupid nation is. All civilizations and nations are going to turn into dust anyway, and all of your stupid pride in your country, for whose accomplishments you're taking undeserved credit, is just wasted energy. It's kind of sad.
fucking viet didint defeat shit man they are skinny and small little weak bastards they didint even defeat usa.usa just give them mercy they didint wanted to kill the vietnamese woman and little poor kids
@ngen1 yes I agree and also vietnams and there land was lot diffrent thing for Mongols so it was very difficult.... Nature bamboos and stuf was not for people on horses...
@USAFIGHTER1 I hope you understand that you are representing America with your user name, and using fowl language and also saying that we could nuke the whole world is a misrepresentation of our general feelings towards the world that we live in. I am simply saying that I do not agree with you and you need to calm down.
@ngen1 I agree with your view of the Americans and how stupid we all are. I get that. 100% on board here. But really, that's why we are watching this educational video, am I right?
Song Dynasty was the richest dynasty in Asia at 13th century, after the Mongol invasion, China became poor. Before the Mongol invasion, Chinese Song Dynasy was very wealthy.
Whos the coward? American troops shit their pants if they do not have tanks and airplanes covering for them, search here in youtube for video of american soldiers crying when facing real man to man combat.
American people are stupid, their politicians are playing them like sheeps. They act though in ther armour and torture people who are in jail, but when one of them dies in a war whole country crys wtf, this is was and people die, but americans are pussys.
@kefkahkefkah i NEVER fought with armor or air support. whatever you are watching on youtube you misunderstand. our enemies rarely ever actually face us head on, even when there is no air or armor. every firefight i've been in our enemies were too scared to even ambush us within range of their own rifles. they know America is the BEST!!! we are Gods of War!
@MegaWhiteSHIT funny how this faggot bad mouths america, but is living in this great country mooching off all us white trash..fucking Hypocrite go hang yourself lol
@USAFIGHTER1 ALL WHITE TRASH ARE RACIST... THEY ARE FUCKING ANIMALS... BUNCH OF RACIST ANIMALS! THEY LIKE NOTHING BUT VIOLENCE THOSE FUCKING BITCH.. GARBAGE RACE!!!!
@USAFIGHTER1 ALL WHITE TRASH ARE RACIST... THEY ARE FUCKING ANIMALS... BUNCH OF RACIST ANIMALS! THEY LIKE NOTHING BUT VIOLENCE THOSE FUCKING BITCH.. GARBAGE RACE!!!!
@97Wc its always a phyrric victory....they won because they hid in the jungles...however statistics show that the viets lose more men than their enemy always
their babies were born on horseback. amazing how little 4 foot 2 chinks ruled the world back then. with no suppy lines, they marched west and killed everyone in sight and had the worlds largest protection racket better than any mafia. called extortion. lol
onething was astonishing about the Kublai Khan & other Warlords of Mongol,that they were the Man of their Word.once they said something,they stood by it & that what Matters.
@ngen1 vietnam was a tributary state of the yuan dynasty -.- and the first invasion was more of a victory than a loss plus it was a small force. and the other 2 times the viet had to retreat from their cities and burn their own towns lol to say vietnam defeated mongol is to say they defeated the usa >_>
@hanwenzero I see you are speaking out of your ignorance and jealousy. The Vietnamese many times not defeated the Hans and the many of the Chinese dynasties, but also defeated Mogols army. The Vietnamese were inventive and smart in their strategies. The Viets are brilliant war strategists. One of the most famous battles, the Vietnamese used the sea tidal to help them. In others, they used the forest and mountains. They retreated when they were weaker. Ignorant Chinese fools.
@vincefun102 you did not counter any of my points and attacked me as a person so you are the one that is jealous. you say that vietnam have defeated many chinese dynasty but you provided no proof. tell me how does a small vietnam defeat a nation as large as china, even when china is in it's weakest stage vietnam can not defeat china. remember winning one battle is not winning a war. and vietnam is a tributary state of the yuan dynasty and thats all i have to say lol.
@hanwenzero I guess you don't read much history. Read this history of the Trung Queens of Vietnam defeated the Hans Dynasty. Just google "Trung Sisters". Yes, you better believe it. Vietnamese women defeated the Hans. The other example is King Quang Trung defeated the Manchu Dynasty. Just google "King Quang Trung".
Anh over 1000 years of evidence of defeating the different Chinese Dynasty. Learn your history so you don't make the same mistake again.
@vincefun102 LOL vietnam was such a small chapter in chinese history that i never knew that for 1000years that vietnam bowed their heads to the chinese. yeah and the "2 queens" killed themselves after the chinese defeated them. the 2 queens pushed out a small unit of the han dynasty and the vietnam thought they were heros LOL but that only lasted for 2 years xD then the chinese crushed them with a huge force. how come chinese dont know that? b/c a small battle like defeating vietnam=nothing
Khubilai Khan was the most progressive, modern thinking Mongol back then .
... But introducing naval warfare, ?? for a mongol army ? If you're doing good on a horse,( and they were doing superb!!) Keep them mongols on a damn horse. Worlds best, outstanding cavalry ever, ... and he wants to put them in a boat !! ??
@CATOSULLA the vietnam war was a one of the most significant wars in history many countries particpated in that war, millions of people died!, how could say it doesent count?
@senmafugu the vietnamese did NOT defeat the USA. The USA was successful in all their military campaigns. The US got tired of the war because they & the south vietnamese couldn't convince the northern population to abandon communism, which was the main purpose they were there. Historically the Vietnamese were never good at war, they were just willing to suffer WAY more casualties then their invaders.
khublai shuda focused on mongolia then all the cities in mongolia now would be like the USA(Los angeles,new york,chicgo etc) pretty soon there will be a proper heroes that will make mongolia great once more not barbaricaly but peacefully then again at the same time making mongolia better , better then china better then japan better then italy and better then england and defenitly better then poland.
yeah and he acted more like a chinese emperor than a khan, abandoning many customs and instead stuffing himself with luxurious animal organs and silk.
Doxi99 I will admit when im wrong im not a man to hide and booster when I am wrong your argument is better,, no we didn’t touch England and yes I consider we winning that war. I will admit you are right the Vietnamese did meet there goal and they did defeat us...If more people like you argued with Intelligence this would be a great world..
jhody12345 3 weeks ago
Every time that Indian guy appeared I was like NUUU boring guy
MeMagicalPie 3 weeks ago
Europeans didn't win against the Mongols, they were only lucky that the Great Khan at that time died whereas Japan was only lucky because of a storm. In short, Europe would have been destroyed because knights are worthless and useless against Mongols if the Khan didn't die and given that the concept of Samurai is the same as the European knights, Japan would likely be decimated had the storm didn't appear.
DMG125 2 months ago
@DMG125
Nope, forested areas would make cavalry worthless. Europeans did win battles keeping the mongs at a stalemate. the mongs even left behind forces and they still couldn't take on europe. Japan proved its worth when they wouldn't even allow the mongs so much as a hold on the shores after their first encounter. The samurai held their own. lol
NopeJPeg 1 day ago
For some reason, the way NopeJPeg mention Japan is like what typical weaboos would without looking at facts: Japan only managed to survive because of a natural event called "typhoon" and that the Mongols are not good as a naval force. Have they got at least an efficient navy, parts of Japan would likely fall even if they (Japanese) erects coastline fortresses.
And also it has already been proven that the medieval tactics Europeans employ (chivalry and knightly warfare) failed miserably.
DMG125 1 day ago
@DMG125
You're talking about Eastern Europeans and not the heavier forested areas of northern Europe nor the more moist climate of Western Europe (when compared the dry steppes). "Have they got an efficient navy" LULZ So the argument goes that "they got inferior numbers compared to their opponents and still won" but you'd think that an army of "demi-gods" with a substandard navy couldn't accomplish taking over a small island? LMAO So much for demi-god status. The Japs withstood against them..
NopeJPeg 22 hours ago
@DMG125
and won typhoon or not. The fact that they didn't allow the mongs a proper foothold on the beach means they were excellent at repelling the barbarians. Like a game of soccer: you don't allow the opposing team to even get near the goal rerouting them everytime. That's the mark of a good force. Samurai >> mongs.
BTW, not a weeaboo but I'm sure your a mongtard. lol pwned
NopeJPeg 22 hours ago
@NopeJPeg not a Mongtard here but without the Mongols, I doubt that the Europeans would find alternative ways to get to Asia.
You talk like as if you want to demonize the Mongols. Sure the Mongols cannot take Western Europe, but the West Europeans will be stuck on their lands because any attempts to fight the Mongols beyond their territory will be devastating to the Europeans unless they drop their chivalry-based tactics.
DMG125 7 hours ago
I Didnt hear that Italy Holy roman Empire or france or england falling to them...Because they didnt
jhody12345 4 months ago
Yea viet nam beat us the usa My home land didnt get touch ..you guys lost over 2 million women men and children...we just stop fighting not that you could beat us we just stoped...Not one hair in are homeland was touched so How could you say you can beat us...Get real
jhody12345 4 months ago
@jhody12345
By your logic the defending force would never win a war?
The USA war goal: Defend south Vietnam from the communist
The North Vietnamese wargoal: Unite Vietnam and make the whole country communist.
The Communists enter Saigon in 1975 and south Vietnam is communist now.
Did I forget to mention Vietnam had 1/10 of the US population and only half of the country is fighting against the USA?
Doxi99 3 weeks ago
@jhody12345
If by winning war means you have to defeat and conquer a country then american never won the independent war against the British because England was also untouched by the americans.
Get real
Doxi99 3 weeks ago
@ngen1 People always forget that the Mongols had TWO attempted invasions of Japan, 1274 and 1281. The first invasion was a victory for Japan and forced the Mongols to retreat to the ships. The Japanese then built a wall around their shores. The Mongol ships returned then got stuck in the bay until a storm destroyed most of them.
aa3gunner 4 months ago
No, Vietnam war was a limited war. It had to be so because the last invasion of a communist country in Asia led to a Chinese counter invasion. So Vietnam could never evolve into that. In order to avoid direct conflict with China, ground battles were strictly fought in South Vietnam.
Lordofthenipplerings 7 months ago
@ngen1 the mamlukes of egypt defeated the mongols as well in 1260
glamedrehl 7 months ago
@ngen1 i agree japenis are always so proud of themselves of achieving nothing
hanprider 8 months ago
@ngen1 the majapahit empire in java also defeated the mongols
imfromtambunan 8 months ago
In the first minute of this clip, where is the music from? The channel "Al Jazeera" also uses it in their documentaries.
LeHuyAnh 8 months ago
every empire will fall and new one will rise
besidurshadow 10 months ago
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votumseparatum1 11 months ago
@ngen1 take it asshole
LuxxyLux1 1 year ago
During the vietnam war america did have enough nuclear weapons to flatten that country. they were geared up to take russia on with a full nuclear exchange. If america was bent on full-scale release then vietnam would've been a wasteland in a day. America would've looked really bad if they nuked a whole country, especially from the fallout in adjacent countries. Currently america has 1950 active warheads, 8500 total and thats after scaling it down. And no, im not american or european.
108Dax 1 year ago
It's true that Japanese didn't defeat 40,000 Kori-Mongol allied forces. Both Korean and Mongolian commanders led the allied forces, they landed on Japanese islands such as Iki, Tsushima, and Kyushu and swept there. But there was the conflict of opinion between the generals from two countries and what was worse a typhoon struck at the battlefield. Finally, the generals decided to withdraw their forces. Japanese was just lucky.
KoriSenbay 1 year ago
@ngen1 Well aren't we rash and headstrong. You seem to lack the common sense of rationalizing between cultural perceptions of Americans and the truth that people in the United States of America do not all share the same narrow view point about history. P.S. You also seem to lack Kublai Khan's sense of diplomacy and you lose ten points. , good day :)
Sibbot 1 year ago
it a bit strange that the japanese has more advance military power and could't not defeat the mongol but the viet can
VIET ROCK
luckyprince164 1 year ago
Damn it, Chabi could have given risen to the english slang word for fat, "chubby".
TempestDust 1 year ago
wow americans think they defeated the mongols, HAHA
mujahedeen1987 1 year ago
Look at how the douchebags come out of the woodwork to argue about how great their stupid nation is. All civilizations and nations are going to turn into dust anyway, and all of your stupid pride in your country, for whose accomplishments you're taking undeserved credit, is just wasted energy. It's kind of sad.
OmarAlQaseer 1 year ago 5
fucking viet didint defeat shit man they are skinny and small little weak bastards they didint even defeat usa.usa just give them mercy they didint wanted to kill the vietnamese woman and little poor kids
duugiiDG2007 1 year ago
@ngen1 yes I agree and also vietnams and there land was lot diffrent thing for Mongols so it was very difficult.... Nature bamboos and stuf was not for people on horses...
0821ori 1 year ago
@ngen1 in both cases it was mostly because the Mongols couldn't adapt their tactics to the terrain
CATOSULLA 1 year ago
@ngen1 no, the Poles defeated the Mongols too.
CATOSULLA 1 year ago
@USAFIGHTER1 I hope you understand that you are representing America with your user name, and using fowl language and also saying that we could nuke the whole world is a misrepresentation of our general feelings towards the world that we live in. I am simply saying that I do not agree with you and you need to calm down.
kps1215 1 year ago
@ngen1 I agree with your view of the Americans and how stupid we all are. I get that. 100% on board here. But really, that's why we are watching this educational video, am I right?
kps1215 1 year ago
@kps1215 yeah, quit trying to learn stuff you dumbass
CATOSULLA 1 year ago
Song Dynasty was not a weak Dynasty, the Song army resisted the Mongols for nearly half a century.
TheXanian 1 year ago
I feel sorry for the Song Dynasty.
Song Dynasty was the richest dynasty in Asia at 13th century, after the Mongol invasion, China became poor. Before the Mongol invasion, Chinese Song Dynasy was very wealthy.
TheXanian 1 year ago
@USAFIGHTER1
Whos the coward? American troops shit their pants if they do not have tanks and airplanes covering for them, search here in youtube for video of american soldiers crying when facing real man to man combat.
American people are stupid, their politicians are playing them like sheeps. They act though in ther armour and torture people who are in jail, but when one of them dies in a war whole country crys wtf, this is was and people die, but americans are pussys.
kefkahkefkah 1 year ago
@kefkahkefkah i NEVER fought with armor or air support. whatever you are watching on youtube you misunderstand. our enemies rarely ever actually face us head on, even when there is no air or armor. every firefight i've been in our enemies were too scared to even ambush us within range of their own rifles. they know America is the BEST!!! we are Gods of War!
CATOSULLA 1 year ago
america is a mixed race.so no one is superior (except me) lol.
bhaleraopramod15 1 year ago
to my american brothers: we're watching a video about a fallen empire. don't act like americans can't lose. that's pretty f'n ignorant.
to everyone else: you aren't fluent in english just because you're smart...
point being, can we just shut the fuck up and educate ourselves please?
beholdfateknocks 1 year ago 3
@USAFIGHTER1 Everybody defeated US stupid nation even Africans could defeat US bitch!
MegaWhiteSHIT 1 year ago
@MegaWhiteSHIT funny how this faggot bad mouths america, but is living in this great country mooching off all us white trash..fucking Hypocrite go hang yourself lol
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@USAFIGHTER1 ALL WHITE TRASH ARE RACIST... THEY ARE FUCKING ANIMALS... BUNCH OF RACIST ANIMALS! THEY LIKE NOTHING BUT VIOLENCE THOSE FUCKING BITCH.. GARBAGE RACE!!!!
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@USAFIGHTER1 ALL WHITE TRASH ARE RACIST... THEY ARE FUCKING ANIMALS... BUNCH OF RACIST ANIMALS! THEY LIKE NOTHING BUT VIOLENCE THOSE FUCKING BITCH.. GARBAGE RACE!!!!
MegaWhiteSHIT 1 year ago
@USAFIGHTER1
no ur not
guts777 1 year ago
Talk about Mongolians being barbarian I think Americans are more barbarians and stupid and of course uneducated.
MegaWhiteSHIT 1 year ago
NOT UNITE CHINA! IT IS CALLED EXPANSION MONGOL EMPERA!
sergeibodrov 1 year ago
@ngen1 dude not all Americans are stupid...you ignorant fuck!
krazzed101 1 year ago 2
@ngen1 HAHAHHAHAHA HAAHHA Japs
leonardnecula 1 year ago
lol no matter how small vietnam is. it always wins
97Wc 1 year ago
@97Wc its always a phyrric victory....they won because they hid in the jungles...however statistics show that the viets lose more men than their enemy always
pcbb01 1 year ago
the western always tell how great the napoleon and alexander is but thier empire not even half of the asian empire.
ajkhgfiurg 1 year ago
@ajkhgfiurg tell that to the British Empire lolz
pcbb01 1 year ago
@ngen1 the javans also defeated them
razorsharpview9090 1 year ago
@razorsharpview9090 The Egyptians also defeated the Mongols at the battle of ain jalut
pharaonicvs 1 year ago
@pharaonicvs yes dude i know it. I have read it in the wikipedia.
razorsharpview9090 1 year ago
the javans also defeated them
razorsharpview9090 1 year ago
their babies were born on horseback. amazing how little 4 foot 2 chinks ruled the world back then. with no suppy lines, they marched west and killed everyone in sight and had the worlds largest protection racket better than any mafia. called extortion. lol
Rico8458 1 year ago
onething was astonishing about the Kublai Khan & other Warlords of Mongol,that they were the Man of their Word.once they said something,they stood by it & that what Matters.
sano514 1 year ago
@ngen1 vietnam was a tributary state of the yuan dynasty -.- and the first invasion was more of a victory than a loss plus it was a small force. and the other 2 times the viet had to retreat from their cities and burn their own towns lol to say vietnam defeated mongol is to say they defeated the usa >_>
hanwenzero 2 years ago
@hanwenzero I see you are speaking out of your ignorance and jealousy. The Vietnamese many times not defeated the Hans and the many of the Chinese dynasties, but also defeated Mogols army. The Vietnamese were inventive and smart in their strategies. The Viets are brilliant war strategists. One of the most famous battles, the Vietnamese used the sea tidal to help them. In others, they used the forest and mountains. They retreated when they were weaker. Ignorant Chinese fools.
vincefun102 1 year ago
@vincefun102 you did not counter any of my points and attacked me as a person so you are the one that is jealous. you say that vietnam have defeated many chinese dynasty but you provided no proof. tell me how does a small vietnam defeat a nation as large as china, even when china is in it's weakest stage vietnam can not defeat china. remember winning one battle is not winning a war. and vietnam is a tributary state of the yuan dynasty and thats all i have to say lol.
hanwenzero 1 year ago
@hanwenzero I guess you don't read much history. Read this history of the Trung Queens of Vietnam defeated the Hans Dynasty. Just google "Trung Sisters". Yes, you better believe it. Vietnamese women defeated the Hans. The other example is King Quang Trung defeated the Manchu Dynasty. Just google "King Quang Trung".
Anh over 1000 years of evidence of defeating the different Chinese Dynasty. Learn your history so you don't make the same mistake again.
vincefun102 1 year ago
@vincefun102 LOL vietnam was such a small chapter in chinese history that i never knew that for 1000years that vietnam bowed their heads to the chinese. yeah and the "2 queens" killed themselves after the chinese defeated them. the 2 queens pushed out a small unit of the han dynasty and the vietnam thought they were heros LOL but that only lasted for 2 years xD then the chinese crushed them with a huge force. how come chinese dont know that? b/c a small battle like defeating vietnam=nothing
hanwenzero 1 year ago
the mongols were very impressive o.o
the great khans not only controlled the mongol armies but also all the armies in china
fucking crazy!!!
Isreal4realz 2 years ago
Khubilai Khan was the most progressive, modern thinking Mongol back then .
... But introducing naval warfare, ?? for a mongol army ? If you're doing good on a horse,( and they were doing superb!!) Keep them mongols on a damn horse. Worlds best, outstanding cavalry ever, ... and he wants to put them in a boat !! ??
Borat911 2 years ago
viet. gals are really hot.... man.
21156590 2 years ago 2
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the Vietnamese defeated USA too.
senmafugu 2 years ago 8
@senmafugu with the help of rusia lawl
griebel11 1 year ago
@senmafugu indeed they did
FIGHTFANNERD3 1 year ago
@senmafugu the US was never fully committed to the Vietnam war...it doesn't count.
CATOSULLA 1 year ago
@CATOSULLA the vietnam war was a one of the most significant wars in history many countries particpated in that war, millions of people died!, how could say it doesent count?
senmafugu 1 year ago
@senmafugu LOL how true, pretty sad part of American military history there. Not counting the most recent wars in the middle east.
BeowulfCav 1 year ago
@senmafugu the vietnamese did NOT defeat the USA. The USA was successful in all their military campaigns. The US got tired of the war because they & the south vietnamese couldn't convince the northern population to abandon communism, which was the main purpose they were there. Historically the Vietnamese were never good at war, they were just willing to suffer WAY more casualties then their invaders.
Tranesition 8 months ago
@senmafugu
The Vietnamese didn't defeat us, they worse us out. We won nearly all of the battles we fought against them.
NewYorkFlavour 3 months ago
@NewYorkFlavour
You might won the battles but the Vietnamese won the war. Deal with it.
Doxi99 3 weeks ago
khublai shuda focused on mongolia then all the cities in mongolia now would be like the USA(Los angeles,new york,chicgo etc) pretty soon there will be a proper heroes that will make mongolia great once more not barbaricaly but peacefully then again at the same time making mongolia better , better then china better then japan better then italy and better then england and defenitly better then poland.
YoungKoolness17 2 years ago
Also look at the Manchus, they made the same mistake.
21156590 3 years ago
It's called sinification.
Graymoths 2 years ago
2.35 the mongols were right not liking Khubilai, cause look at mongolia now and look at china, he made china stronger
suedash 3 years ago
yeah and he acted more like a chinese emperor than a khan, abandoning many customs and instead stuffing himself with luxurious animal organs and silk.
LingEntityNoobi 2 years ago