I don't know if he'ld want to do this, or run for Congress, whatever, but the idea came to mind.
David ( warIsACrime . org ) has been doing very good work for plenty of years and he clearly doesn't forget the wars while the economic crisis is going on in the USA; not letting either critical issue "disappear from his screen".
I feel confident that he'ld make an excellent candidate for the presidency and Congress.
I believe that under the Supremacy Clause, Congress does not have the power to abdicate its power to make war through federal law or treaty, because doing so contradicts the Powers of Congress laid out in A1S8.
However putting these contradictions into law and treaties muddies the rule of law and invites abuse.
@KhmerD0g Nuclear weapons have done and excellent job holding politicians hostage. Old farts can no longer send young men to fight and die for them against a nuclear armed opponent, because they would be among the first to snuff it.
The problem with nuclear weapons is the disgusting culture of secrecy and concentration of power in the executive branch they have created.
The next war is the final war! The whole middle east will be in flames! And the escalation from it is WWIII. 100 nukes are enough to bring the last winter - the nuclear icy night over the surface of earth - for 3 years. Maybe some lurchs in deep caves will survive. Thanks, great leaders to the funeral!
@zauzari Nope, nonsense based on extrapolation from Hiroshima.
Lots of "small" fires don't loft soot high enough. 6 million barrels of oil per day up in smoke from kuwait oil wells in the first gulf war; no soot above 6 km.
Modern cities don't burn well. Hiroshima hadn't seen rain for 27 days, was made of wood and paper, had open coal fires(which was the cause of most fires, NOT the thermal flash). Nagasaki, which was almost as bad, did not have a firestorm.
World's most wanted Criminal bastards, 1) Benjamin Netannyaahu. Israel 2) Barrack Obama, USA 3) Nicholas Sarkozy, France 4) tony blair and david camaron UK 5) George W. Bush 6) Dick cheney USA 7) Donald rumsfeld USA 8) colin powell USA 9) Condoleezza Rice 10)bill clinton & Hillary clinton
@unreal672003 Well, if I go down the list of US presidents who deserve to be frog-marched in front of the Hague, tried and hanged I get as far back as Carter before it even causes a moments pause; and I just don't know that much about carter
war exists because we are all bunched into groups and we are set to fight against each other because or race, religion, nationality, sex, and all of these things that make us different. some where there are puppet masters looking down on all the weak minded citizens of the world laughing at how easily they can produce friction between groups of people.
A law is absolutely pointless unless there is someone to enforce that law. Who's going to bring G.W. Bush to court? The UN? The U.S. Congress? These people are bought and paid for by the warmongers.
War is illegal ... so anyone that WARs will have WAR declared on. :) All WARs are where stupid uneducated poor fools & tools murder, R killed & suffer for Elite Benefit.
"War can not be avoided until the physical cause for its recurrence is removed and this, in the last analysis, is the vast extent of the planet on which we live. Only though annihilation of distance in every respect, as the conveyance of intelligence, transport of passengers and supplies and transmission of energy will conditions be brought about some day, insuring permanency of friendly relations." - Nikola Tesla
"What we now want most is closer contact and better understanding between individuals and communities all over the earth and the elimination of that fanatic devotion to exalted ideals of national egoism and pride, which is always prone to plunge the world into primeval barbarism and strife. No league or parliamentary act of any kind will ever prevent such a calamity. These are only new devices for putting the weak at the mercy of the strong." - Nikola Tesla
We should implement it by steps, like first making a crime to launch the so called "Preemptive Wars" (Bush & Israel TM) and making it a crime against humanity to manufacture and/or possess nuclear weapons. Then we should banish all biological & chemical weapons, cluster bombs, landmines, aerial bombings, etc, etc...
If we don't start acting towards banishing war, Homo sapiens will eventually join the club of more than 99% other species which lived in this planet and that are now all extinct.
A fat lot of good this Kellogg-Briand Pact has done. Some of the world's most horrific conflicts have taken place in the wake of this measure's signing. It's completely unenforceable and therefore useless.
it cannot be enforced because, among other reasons, the USA doesnt recognize international law, and more importantly doesnt respect any international court. China behaves similarly.
A gun with a twisted barrel is a symbol against war? It should be a rifle instead since that's what soldiers are issued. A gun used gives an anti-gun message. Better to have a sword turned into a plow.
When you comission an artwork like that, chances are you dont know what exactly you are getting beforehand.
its an iconic sculpture, well-placed, by now i think hundreds of millions of people around the world have seen it. How would you design a sculpture that has swords turning into plows that people immediately understand when seeing it? The gun with the knot is understood immediately. A rifle with a knot of about the same size would be less recognizable from a distance.
oh thanks, i like it. But if you dont know the background and what it means, its not so easy to see what the guy is hammering there, also it looks quite soviet-style.
A plowshare is the part of the plow that actually digs into the ground, cuts it, and turns it over. The rest of a plow can be wood or something else, but the plowshares need to be strong metal, like swords.
Maybe the knotted gun is not the perfect cover image for the book, but i just LOVE the artwork itself.
Very interesting, but how would this law be enforced in practical terms to actually stop war without getting a lot of people killed? How would China or any other country put a stop to US wars except by getting other countries to wage war back at the US? Perhaps it can be done by diplomatic means (although that doesn't seem to be getting done) but in the meantime the US is murdering people which defeats the purpose of the law.
Would that include economic and cyber attacks. Both of which the U.S., China, And even large multinational corporations are guilty of. Can this law be enforced be enforced without making it look like a new world order? If not it will never be discussed let alone enforced.
@rolloph72 I don't get this NWO mania people have. Simple fact is that if we don't get rid of war, war will get rid of us when you have Nuclear Weapons and other WMD's. That being said a treaty is just a piece of paper that people, Leaders, Military, countries, Corporations will ignore when it suits them. Man has not evolved past our violent nature, and this violent nature will soon destroy the world. So much for your NWO worries.
@ReX342 Of course it can. It works in all countries who, ironically, don't have the death penalty. So your logic is flawed and you are factually wrong.
@kroovyandcal Bullshit. Mutual Agreement, boycotting, political pressure, economic pressure. They don't use guns and have worked throughout history, moreso than war. So don't talk about what you don't know.
@MinimoviesInc The economic "pressure" bit is potent. In making the poor of a country poorer. Then we can motivate their starving asses to overthrow a regime. We can send in jackals for that. But when all is said and done, any document means nothing without the possibility of force to back it up. Oh yeah. That's phase 3.
@kroovyandcal That won't work and never has. It's counterproductive. Poor people will not revolt and if they do, they will do so violently, thus eliminating the whole idea of the treaty in the first place.
Unless there is a global anarchist revolution, which removes oppressive hierarchy, the source of most wars, altogether. But that takes time. It should eventually happen, given social development and sociological predictions.
@kroovyandcal No, there is no final step to governance. Government will always exist. Government is simple a word for the method which a society uses to make decisions on a political level. Whether thats done by a king or by the people is a different matter. The final step might be anarchism, which is where STATISM would be abolished. That is, there are no more hierarchies in society. Anarchy certainly is possible, especially on small scales. Again, I'd advise you to read up on the ideology.cntd
@kroovyandcal cntd. Anarchist societies have existed and do exist. They have their problems, as have all societies, and anarchism is by no means perfect. The decision making process can be slow, but it is the fairest and least corruptible political system. That being said from an objective viewpoint.
Complete anarchism won't happen for a while, but I personally find it worth a try, and I practice it every day, really.
New World Order puppet Barry Soetoro. He lies about everything. He didn't do anything that he promised while he was campaigning. He said he would get rid of NAFTA(didn't), bring the troops home(increased number of troops), abolish the patriot act(extended it),born in America(wasn't), killed bin laden(dead for 8 yrs), the list goes on and on. Attended the Bilderberg conference w/ Hilary Clinton. He's a fraud, a liar and a crook. WAKE UP PPL Obama personally needs to be prosecuted.
That is very important. Today's wars are illegal
kundastany 1 month ago
Obama can be charged right now for murder of US citizens, but nobody cares.
MillionthUsername 2 months ago
When does Paul Jay even get time to read all these articles and books lol
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David Swanson for US President? Why not?
I don't know if he'ld want to do this, or run for Congress, whatever, but the idea came to mind.
David ( warIsACrime . org ) has been doing very good work for plenty of years and he clearly doesn't forget the wars while the economic crisis is going on in the USA; not letting either critical issue "disappear from his screen".
I feel confident that he'ld make an excellent candidate for the presidency and Congress.
mikecorbeil 3 months ago
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mikecorbeil 3 months ago
I believe that under the Supremacy Clause, Congress does not have the power to abdicate its power to make war through federal law or treaty, because doing so contradicts the Powers of Congress laid out in A1S8.
However putting these contradictions into law and treaties muddies the rule of law and invites abuse.
myeyesarebored 3 months ago
the only way to outlaw war is not have the politicians in charge of ordering other people into war
KhmerD0g 3 months ago
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@KhmerD0g Nuclear weapons have done and excellent job holding politicians hostage. Old farts can no longer send young men to fight and die for them against a nuclear armed opponent, because they would be among the first to snuff it.
The problem with nuclear weapons is the disgusting culture of secrecy and concentration of power in the executive branch they have created.
soylentgreenb 2 months ago
@soylentgreenb
U are right. M.A.D worked. It was proven in Cold War. It has proven today too. America wouldn't attack North Korea.
KhmerD0g 2 months ago
lol americans dont give a fuk.. as long as they get their ipods etc..
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DedmanUmotionS 3 months ago
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SurferRosa79 3 months ago
What's the penalty for breaking this law? You get declared war on.
samuelmichaud 3 months ago
@samuelmichaud nope, you could get prosecuted as a criminal for breaking the law.
SurferRosa79 3 months ago
@SurferRosa79 and then?
samuelmichaud 3 months ago
@samuelmichaud inane lol
SurferRosa79 2 months ago
@SurferRosa79 sure
samuelmichaud 2 months ago
nice news thank you
JEMCO2008 3 months ago
The next war is the final war! The whole middle east will be in flames! And the escalation from it is WWIII. 100 nukes are enough to bring the last winter - the nuclear icy night over the surface of earth - for 3 years. Maybe some lurchs in deep caves will survive. Thanks, great leaders to the funeral!
zauzari 3 months ago
@zauzari Nope, nonsense based on extrapolation from Hiroshima.
Lots of "small" fires don't loft soot high enough. 6 million barrels of oil per day up in smoke from kuwait oil wells in the first gulf war; no soot above 6 km.
Modern cities don't burn well. Hiroshima hadn't seen rain for 27 days, was made of wood and paper, had open coal fires(which was the cause of most fires, NOT the thermal flash). Nagasaki, which was almost as bad, did not have a firestorm.
soylentgreenb 2 months ago
unreal672003 3 months ago 8
@unreal672003 Well, if I go down the list of US presidents who deserve to be frog-marched in front of the Hague, tried and hanged I get as far back as Carter before it even causes a moments pause; and I just don't know that much about carter
soylentgreenb 2 months ago
""by a vote of 85 to 1"" Oh it must have sucked being that guy.
gulbirk 3 months ago
war-crimes only exist for those who lost.
LMGunslinger 3 months ago
JAIL THE WARMONGERS!
JAIL THE WAR MONGERS!
JAIL THEM NOW!
worldpeace2u 3 months ago
stop wars now!
wars are crimes against humanity!
george bush and tony blair have been written in the international book for criminal crimes against humanity...what a thing to be remembered...
worldpeace2u 3 months ago 5
One thing is to declare yourself against war, and another is to not defend yourself when someone is killing you.
Everyone has a right to defend themselves duuh.
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worldismorphing 3 months ago
war exists because we are all bunched into groups and we are set to fight against each other because or race, religion, nationality, sex, and all of these things that make us different. some where there are puppet masters looking down on all the weak minded citizens of the world laughing at how easily they can produce friction between groups of people.
gordogreen 3 months ago
pipe dreams
LYinKansas 3 months ago
A law is absolutely pointless unless there is someone to enforce that law. Who's going to bring G.W. Bush to court? The UN? The U.S. Congress? These people are bought and paid for by the warmongers.
Devilock79 3 months ago
war only exists because jews exist
TheArabSultan 3 months ago
@TheArabSultan You bigot. I hate saying this insult but you are a anti-semnite. I am someone that hates zionism.
captcrais101 3 months ago
@TheArabSultan fuck off
fallenempireoverdrve 3 months ago
@TheArabSultan besides war is not even a human creation, plenty of animals have organized war.
fallenempireoverdrve 3 months ago
@TheArabSultan Judaism is only a religion that your religion is derived from, assuming your Muslim.
fallenempireoverdrve 3 months ago
Republicans hate this pact
MAZDAKPRODUCTION 3 months ago
MUCH Thnx...KNOWLEDGE "gives" P.O.W.E.R. ...(Mtl.)
mirush65 3 months ago
War is illegal ... so anyone that WARs will have WAR declared on. :) All WARs are where stupid uneducated poor fools & tools murder, R killed & suffer for Elite Benefit.
mba2ceo 3 months ago
"War can not be avoided until the physical cause for its recurrence is removed and this, in the last analysis, is the vast extent of the planet on which we live. Only though annihilation of distance in every respect, as the conveyance of intelligence, transport of passengers and supplies and transmission of energy will conditions be brought about some day, insuring permanency of friendly relations." - Nikola Tesla
depro9 3 months ago
"What we now want most is closer contact and better understanding between individuals and communities all over the earth and the elimination of that fanatic devotion to exalted ideals of national egoism and pride, which is always prone to plunge the world into primeval barbarism and strife. No league or parliamentary act of any kind will ever prevent such a calamity. These are only new devices for putting the weak at the mercy of the strong." - Nikola Tesla
depro9 3 months ago 2
We should implement it by steps, like first making a crime to launch the so called "Preemptive Wars" (Bush & Israel TM) and making it a crime against humanity to manufacture and/or possess nuclear weapons. Then we should banish all biological & chemical weapons, cluster bombs, landmines, aerial bombings, etc, etc...
If we don't start acting towards banishing war, Homo sapiens will eventually join the club of more than 99% other species which lived in this planet and that are now all extinct.
237Michael 3 months ago
We need to outlaw "Kinetic actions" while we are at it.
BlindMaphisto 3 months ago 2
They outlawed war in the context invasion to acquire land and the treaty itself had a thousand and one loopholes to still wage war.
"Oh, i believe you pose a threat to me and my allies so i can lawfully attack you"
"You attacked me therefore i can attack you to defend myself"
etcetcetc Only a real hippie would take that pact seriously
selfsenter 3 months ago
A fat lot of good this Kellogg-Briand Pact has done. Some of the world's most horrific conflicts have taken place in the wake of this measure's signing. It's completely unenforceable and therefore useless.
cehussey 3 months ago
@cehussey
it prevented some wars. Preventing some wars is better than preventing none.
I think preventing just one war from happening is a major heroic act, preventing several is just awesome.
kurtilein3 3 months ago
The majority of people are sick and tired of these PNAC-illegal wars! Can't someone do something???? Is this law real or not? Can it be enforced?
1Rennae2 3 months ago
@1Rennae2
it cannot be enforced because, among other reasons, the USA doesnt recognize international law, and more importantly doesnt respect any international court. China behaves similarly.
kurtilein3 3 months ago
A gun with a twisted barrel is a symbol against war? It should be a rifle instead since that's what soldiers are issued. A gun used gives an anti-gun message. Better to have a sword turned into a plow.
VexZeed 3 months ago
@VexZeed Guns are used to kill people, that's all that matters, no matter who uses the gun.
MinimoviesInc 3 months ago
@VexZeed
When you comission an artwork like that, chances are you dont know what exactly you are getting beforehand.
its an iconic sculpture, well-placed, by now i think hundreds of millions of people around the world have seen it. How would you design a sculpture that has swords turning into plows that people immediately understand when seeing it? The gun with the knot is understood immediately. A rifle with a knot of about the same size would be less recognizable from a distance.
kurtilein3 3 months ago
@kurtilein3 Here is a sculpture of a man beating a sword into a plowshare. I don't know what a plowshare is but I think it's a type of plow.
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VexZeed 3 months ago
@VexZeed is he plowing for the guy that has the gun? lol
CORNandCATTLE 3 months ago
@VexZeed
oh thanks, i like it. But if you dont know the background and what it means, its not so easy to see what the guy is hammering there, also it looks quite soviet-style.
A plowshare is the part of the plow that actually digs into the ground, cuts it, and turns it over. The rest of a plow can be wood or something else, but the plowshares need to be strong metal, like swords.
Maybe the knotted gun is not the perfect cover image for the book, but i just LOVE the artwork itself.
kurtilein3 3 months ago
Very interesting, but how would this law be enforced in practical terms to actually stop war without getting a lot of people killed? How would China or any other country put a stop to US wars except by getting other countries to wage war back at the US? Perhaps it can be done by diplomatic means (although that doesn't seem to be getting done) but in the meantime the US is murdering people which defeats the purpose of the law.
DrStrangelove666 3 months ago
@DrStrangelove666 I'm always amazed when people look to China and Russia to stop Imperialist war, as they it's somehow had principles.
DerBlitzStag 3 months ago
We have ignored all the good work of our forefathers.
mycompasstv 3 months ago 31
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DedmanUmotionS 3 months ago
Mussolini sighed this without reading it!
DerBlitzStag 3 months ago
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DerBlitzStag 3 months ago
This is the hard first steps to world peace
h0tie 3 months ago
Great news story keep up.
Nieves57 3 months ago 22
wishfull thinking ...
sanmig68 3 months ago
This is a very interesting piece of history.
Thank you for sharing it..
Choblik 3 months ago 4
Would that include economic and cyber attacks. Both of which the U.S., China, And even large multinational corporations are guilty of. Can this law be enforced be enforced without making it look like a new world order? If not it will never be discussed let alone enforced.
rolloph72 3 months ago
@rolloph72 I don't get this NWO mania people have. Simple fact is that if we don't get rid of war, war will get rid of us when you have Nuclear Weapons and other WMD's. That being said a treaty is just a piece of paper that people, Leaders, Military, countries, Corporations will ignore when it suits them. Man has not evolved past our violent nature, and this violent nature will soon destroy the world. So much for your NWO worries.
valhala56 3 months ago
@rolloph72
Great point!
Alberto2382 3 months ago
yep!
CescoPisicoli 3 months ago
The Kellogg Briand pact cannot be upheld without guns to enforce it
kroovyandcal 3 months ago
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ReX342 3 months ago
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As if the banning of murder cannot be upheld without the death penalty.
ReX342 3 months ago
@ReX342 Of course it can. It works in all countries who, ironically, don't have the death penalty. So your logic is flawed and you are factually wrong.
MinimoviesInc 3 months ago
@kroovyandcal Bullshit. Mutual Agreement, boycotting, political pressure, economic pressure. They don't use guns and have worked throughout history, moreso than war. So don't talk about what you don't know.
MinimoviesInc 3 months ago
@MinimoviesInc The economic "pressure" bit is potent. In making the poor of a country poorer. Then we can motivate their starving asses to overthrow a regime. We can send in jackals for that. But when all is said and done, any document means nothing without the possibility of force to back it up. Oh yeah. That's phase 3.
kroovyandcal 3 months ago
@kroovyandcal That won't work and never has. It's counterproductive. Poor people will not revolt and if they do, they will do so violently, thus eliminating the whole idea of the treaty in the first place.
Unless there is a global anarchist revolution, which removes oppressive hierarchy, the source of most wars, altogether. But that takes time. It should eventually happen, given social development and sociological predictions.
MinimoviesInc 3 months ago
@MinimoviesInc I wish that anarchy was possible. The final step to governance is no governance. I do not believe we are there
kroovyandcal 3 months ago
@kroovyandcal No, there is no final step to governance. Government will always exist. Government is simple a word for the method which a society uses to make decisions on a political level. Whether thats done by a king or by the people is a different matter. The final step might be anarchism, which is where STATISM would be abolished. That is, there are no more hierarchies in society. Anarchy certainly is possible, especially on small scales. Again, I'd advise you to read up on the ideology.cntd
MinimoviesInc 3 months ago 2
@kroovyandcal cntd. Anarchist societies have existed and do exist. They have their problems, as have all societies, and anarchism is by no means perfect. The decision making process can be slow, but it is the fairest and least corruptible political system. That being said from an objective viewpoint.
Complete anarchism won't happen for a while, but I personally find it worth a try, and I practice it every day, really.
MinimoviesInc 3 months ago
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goldman sachs rules the world
hcwcars1 3 months ago
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New World Order puppet Barry Soetoro. He lies about everything. He didn't do anything that he promised while he was campaigning. He said he would get rid of NAFTA(didn't), bring the troops home(increased number of troops), abolish the patriot act(extended it),born in America(wasn't), killed bin laden(dead for 8 yrs), the list goes on and on. Attended the Bilderberg conference w/ Hilary Clinton. He's a fraud, a liar and a crook. WAKE UP PPL Obama personally needs to be prosecuted.
buff24seven 3 months ago