you know whats really funny? is that 7 second race video that mr.brown is talking about, john steph LOSES to a mustang, which to my knowledge is an american V8!
That looks fast but then I think about John Shep's 7-8 second talon and 6 less cylinders. =)
Its a fast car but honestly who freaking cares! You sissies would argue about the color of jessica simpsons thong if you had the chance. Cars are made for different purposes, leave it at that and get along!
Hell yes! I agree! Man a 12 second car is fast. Many people haven't been above 100mph. Let me see take a normal driver and put them in a 10 second car. It would not be pretty.
last i checked hes touching sixes. i lost respect for shep when he dumed the mitsubishi rearend for a new one. 8s in a talon with stock rearend and glass and carpet and an ohio liscesne plate is more respectable than 6-7 in a full race trim
Who cares about fuel mileage when you want to go fast? a 9 mpg 10 sec car is way cooler than a 20 mpg 13 sec car. There are some fast imports out there. The American V8 designed 40 years ago still seems to be the king though. I can't believe someone mentioned an Si as a fast import. Weak.
lol you're an idiot. Yeah, and a charger can run 9s if it's got a hemi and a blower. An Si needs a lot more than a 'head' to run 9s. Maybe in the 1/8, but a regular civic si can barely pull 10s in the 1/8. Ask me how I know, I dare ya.
People today are idiots IMO. A 2002 Pontiac Trans-am WS6 with a manual tranny get's upwards of 28mpg as reported by the EPA and the average driver. A the new challenger with the 5.7L v6 is rated at 25mpg on the EPA website but most say 23mpg. Then people see the mustang and assume that all cars push 300hp with only 22mpg. While Japan has been working with 4 and 6 cylinders making MPG, America has been doing the same with v8 engines.
It mostly depends on driving style of course, but I've heard some crazy high mpg ratings out of some reasonably quick cars. A friend of mine has an '07 vette that he drove up from california getting high 20s the whole way. That is good for a car that'll run high 12s off the showroom floor. I doubt that this viper gets anything about 10 though...But WHO CARES when you can run low 10s?
Well as an old boss of mine said, if you can afford to make the payments on the car and the insurance. Paying for the gas to drive that car isn't a problem.
And thats not naming top end imports. In case you didnt realize, Lambo, Ferrari, BMW, Pugani, Bugatti, its all Imports. I love american muscle, I own a 88 cutlass supreme myself, but to each their own. There are plenty of fast stop imports out there. Your just blinded because you hate ricers. Stop and think about it sometime. You'll realize how dumb that comment was.
You're right. Japan was kinda late getting into the high performance market. There were fast imports in japan before there were fast imports in america. And yes the civic si is a bit over-rated, but its the same motor in the rsx type s (which is 200hp) and thats a lot for a car that wieghs half of a chevelle.
actually to correct my previous post ... its the k20 that comes in the NON type S. Still a great economy car, fused with a bit of sportiness. I do agree they are over rated though.
92-95 civic hatchbacks (which everyone and their grandmother drives) are great building blocks though. Incredibly light. 150whp in one of those is equivalent to almost 225whp in most coupes produced today.
Just in case any Supra lovers forgot, the car with the fastest max mph is the Hennessey Viper Venom 1000(that you can buy from a company). More hp and and higher top speed than a Veyron. And it does it with 6 less cylinders.
suck my balls nightrunner supras beat americas top cars all day, and they are suppose to be competing with camaros, mustangs, and firebirds. like bart simpson says eat my shorts.
supras decent but there ain't no replacement for displacement oh by the way you gotta hog the fuck out of a supra to even get close to a stock vipers performance
yeah but im sure that car is running on pump gas and you could drive it everyday. Supras are heavy and do not make as much power as everyone thinks it requires alot of science meth injection and turbo work. Supras are not very reliable
did you just say the SRT10? sorry cheif thats a car with weighing in just over 5100 lbs empty and a quarter mile time of about 13 seconds.... yea it has a viper engine but that truck was dodge's dumbest production truck every not to mention 9 mpg 12 highway EPA rating
sometimes they put water down in the back for burnouts(at some tracks) i think what your talking about is where it launches from. its not black from tarmac, thats rubber. lotsa burnouts, and when they prep the track they drag old tires over it. the stuff they spray down is vht
Faster? 10s on an 800hp sounds about right. Jerry Kennedy's Heffner 2002 GTS packs 1700hp, yes this is not a misprint, 1700 real horses, and the fastest run I have seen from that car is 8.75 @163mph. So yeah it takes 1700hp to peg an 8 and I agree with the Mustang comment, Im sure you could jam in about the same HP as this Hennessey and get in the 7's, like you said.
A: It doesn't take 1,700hp to peg an 8. Pac RX3 pushing the eights, untubbed with the original leaf springs, do some googling and you'll find it.
B: If you're smart about it, fast imports are cheap -- however, you run into a wall in the mid eights, you will not be going much faster than that no matter how much you spend. At that point it becomes a cubewar, and rotaries can't win anymore.
You can make a Skyline produce similar power, and be quite reliable, actually. It costs a lot more money, though, which is definately a cedeable point, though I suppose it could be argued that in australia at least, the base cost of a Viper is about $160,000 and up -- They never did lose value, and were imported for an exorbitant cost to begin with (even now they're $210,000 new).
Base cost of a Viper is 160k here, seriously. We're not even getting the new ones -- Stupidly high costs around here for muscle gear, which is why we see Japanese cars (and parts) at the sort of low prices you guys see muscle at.
Dude, there's a turbo S12 (Nissan Gazelle, not Chev)that gets underneath that time here. And it takes an eight hundred horsepower Viper to pull tens? Psh.
Just to make this clear a venom800R is not a twin turbo'd car its a naturally aspirated 800 hp and its a full weight street legal car. Show me a nissan that does that?
Ben Diggles' S12. Full weight, street legal, single turbo FJ20ET running stock internals, and a GT35R. Simple modifications, 9.19 seconds -- It has to have an ANDRA cage and parachute according to the regs, but apart from the Mickey T's it wears on the runs, it's fully street legal.
Eight litres vs. two, I think -one- turbo's fair, don't you?
Ben Diggles' S12. Full interior car running an FJ20ET with stock internals, GT35R and FMIC. Basic modifications, nothing stupidly serious. Stock five-speed behind it, tuned to perhaps 650hp. That's a single turbo, not a twin, off two litres, that manages 9.19 in street legal trim with a parachute attached and ANDRA cage, being as that it needs it and all. Eight litres vs. two, I think one turbo's fair, don't you?
That wasnt my point, the viper engine is 8L for a reason. The possibility of having 800 NA Hp on an engine that can be daily driven and is reliable is what the viper has always been about.
And just to clear this up before it goes into an import vs domestics thing. I have no problem with imports but you cant make a full weight import go as fast as a viper and still be reliable. The fastest six speed in the world is a viper which is full weight street legal and driven on the streets in Las vegas.
i dont know if im lost , but it says that the supra does 13.1 sec i a 1/4 D:
ArmenDisBravo 1 year ago
you know whats really funny? is that 7 second race video that mr.brown is talking about, john steph LOSES to a mustang, which to my knowledge is an american V8!
KFCHambone 2 years ago
That looks fast but then I think about John Shep's 7-8 second talon and 6 less cylinders. =)
Its a fast car but honestly who freaking cares! You sissies would argue about the color of jessica simpsons thong if you had the chance. Cars are made for different purposes, leave it at that and get along!
brown55061 3 years ago 8
Hell yes! I agree! Man a 12 second car is fast. Many people haven't been above 100mph. Let me see take a normal driver and put them in a 10 second car. It would not be pretty.
LSXracer 3 years ago
last i checked hes touching sixes. i lost respect for shep when he dumed the mitsubishi rearend for a new one. 8s in a talon with stock rearend and glass and carpet and an ohio liscesne plate is more respectable than 6-7 in a full race trim
ingrexco 2 years ago
@brown55061 i bet it's green.
rokvidfan 1 year ago
Who cares about fuel mileage when you want to go fast? a 9 mpg 10 sec car is way cooler than a 20 mpg 13 sec car. There are some fast imports out there. The American V8 designed 40 years ago still seems to be the king though. I can't believe someone mentioned an Si as a fast import. Weak.
gumper1986 3 years ago
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Honda Civis Si can do 9 sec. a 1/4 mile man its called ctf and jerrybuilt motors muscle head
ilovejenniferdiaz 3 years ago
lol you're an idiot. Yeah, and a charger can run 9s if it's got a hemi and a blower. An Si needs a lot more than a 'head' to run 9s. Maybe in the 1/8, but a regular civic si can barely pull 10s in the 1/8. Ask me how I know, I dare ya.
gumper1986 3 years ago 2
how do you know asshole?
thc4uandme420 2 years ago
Yeah when they are all striped out running on a complete race application.
There's 7 second street legal Vipers on our roads today.
vfIskullangel 2 years ago
People today are idiots IMO. A 2002 Pontiac Trans-am WS6 with a manual tranny get's upwards of 28mpg as reported by the EPA and the average driver. A the new challenger with the 5.7L v6 is rated at 25mpg on the EPA website but most say 23mpg. Then people see the mustang and assume that all cars push 300hp with only 22mpg. While Japan has been working with 4 and 6 cylinders making MPG, America has been doing the same with v8 engines.
Magnuspire 3 years ago 4
It mostly depends on driving style of course, but I've heard some crazy high mpg ratings out of some reasonably quick cars. A friend of mine has an '07 vette that he drove up from california getting high 20s the whole way. That is good for a car that'll run high 12s off the showroom floor. I doubt that this viper gets anything about 10 though...But WHO CARES when you can run low 10s?
gumper1986 3 years ago
Well as an old boss of mine said, if you can afford to make the payments on the car and the insurance. Paying for the gas to drive that car isn't a problem.
Magnuspire 3 years ago 2
LMAO!
trendgil 3 years ago
nice vid man
jobbinz 3 years ago
ur all fuckin retarded....
amercian muscle has always been fast!
where the fuck hav those pussy imports been?huh!?
50 yrs ago...thts right they werent fast..
and amercian muscle is fast out of the factory
cant say that about imports!
smith61092 3 years ago
Civic Si? Evolution? Supra? STI?
And thats not naming top end imports. In case you didnt realize, Lambo, Ferrari, BMW, Pugani, Bugatti, its all Imports. I love american muscle, I own a 88 cutlass supreme myself, but to each their own. There are plenty of fast stop imports out there. Your just blinded because you hate ricers. Stop and think about it sometime. You'll realize how dumb that comment was.
nsimone 3 years ago
good point, but i remember the sti evo werent around 50 years ago. And civic si in my opinion is over rated.
ericjackson40 3 years ago
You're right. Japan was kinda late getting into the high performance market. There were fast imports in japan before there were fast imports in america. And yes the civic si is a bit over-rated, but its the same motor in the rsx type s (which is 200hp) and thats a lot for a car that wieghs half of a chevelle.
nsimone 3 years ago
actually to correct my previous post ... its the k20 that comes in the NON type S. Still a great economy car, fused with a bit of sportiness. I do agree they are over rated though.
92-95 civic hatchbacks (which everyone and their grandmother drives) are great building blocks though. Incredibly light. 150whp in one of those is equivalent to almost 225whp in most coupes produced today.
nsimone 3 years ago
imports are weak stfu and stop crying.
pheksta 3 years ago 3
Just in case any Supra lovers forgot, the car with the fastest max mph is the Hennessey Viper Venom 1000(that you can buy from a company). More hp and and higher top speed than a Veyron. And it does it with 6 less cylinders.
HellPunisher00 3 years ago
heavy ass tin can -_- so much power just to heavy
ovrbst1 3 years ago
Can you imagine if the Vipers and Corvettes only weighed 1900 pounds? They would be so much better, their just too heavy though.
dolphinsattack 3 years ago
wow 800hp.... 70 k car.... upgrade 50 k..... having a supra do that wid low boost priceless... at wells fargo we can get u a loan for a supra...
hlub33 4 years ago
Fuck wells fargo
akulax2 4 years ago 3
who the hell is that? hahhaa
ShinWR1 4 years ago
it's a financial institution
akulax2 4 years ago 2
lol
ojdidit84 4 years ago
yeah fuck them and supra's
nightrunner066 4 years ago
suck my balls nightrunner supras beat americas top cars all day, and they are suppose to be competing with camaros, mustangs, and firebirds. like bart simpson says eat my shorts.
360wallstreet 4 years ago
supras decent but there ain't no replacement for displacement oh by the way you gotta hog the fuck out of a supra to even get close to a stock vipers performance
quicktrix 4 years ago
wrong you gotta hog the fuck outta vipers to get where supra been at. not hatin or nothin, jus a freindly conversation. lets keep going. haha.
360wallstreet 4 years ago
ill admit supras can beat camaros and mustanga but they cant beat a Z06 or an SRT10
quiksilver1011 4 years ago
yeah but im sure that car is running on pump gas and you could drive it everyday. Supras are heavy and do not make as much power as everyone thinks it requires alot of science meth injection and turbo work. Supras are not very reliable
Xmopar01x 4 years ago 2
did you just say the SRT10? sorry cheif thats a car with weighing in just over 5100 lbs empty and a quarter mile time of about 13 seconds.... yea it has a viper engine but that truck was dodge's dumbest production truck every not to mention 9 mpg 12 highway EPA rating
atomgonuclear 4 years ago
I"m pretty sure he ment SRT/10 Viper not SRT/10 truck
akulax2 4 years ago
you reek like cabbage. put spinning hub caps on it. it gace me 5 hp on my 89 ford tempo because of the weight loss. that thing rips now
blahblahmoocow 4 years ago
itz not water or rain..its some kind of Liquid they spary so the car can get tracion.
TaLoCc 4 years ago
its thc
ldragonheart 4 years ago
sometimes they put water down in the back for burnouts(at some tracks) i think what your talking about is where it launches from. its not black from tarmac, thats rubber. lotsa burnouts, and when they prep the track they drag old tires over it. the stuff they spray down is vht
8mbm8 4 years ago
pause the video at 11 sec you know its wet when you see a refleaction in a puddle of water
woogins 4 years ago
woogins- That's not water. It's just lots of trackbite and rubber.
maggie378 4 years ago
Almost a 10 flat in the rain! Full weight too, amazing!
DuaLz 5 years ago
The track is not wet. You'd be an idiot to take 300HP to a track when it's wet.
uyesu 5 years ago
yeah that viper should be running faster.
and import guys? give any guys with a 85-93 mustang what you spend on your cars, and it will run into the 7's.
bradleysparker 5 years ago
Faster? 10s on an 800hp sounds about right. Jerry Kennedy's Heffner 2002 GTS packs 1700hp, yes this is not a misprint, 1700 real horses, and the fastest run I have seen from that car is 8.75 @163mph. So yeah it takes 1700hp to peg an 8 and I agree with the Mustang comment, Im sure you could jam in about the same HP as this Hennessey and get in the 7's, like you said.
GRAWpcsucks216 5 years ago
A: It doesn't take 1,700hp to peg an 8. Pac RX3 pushing the eights, untubbed with the original leaf springs, do some googling and you'll find it.
B: If you're smart about it, fast imports are cheap -- however, you run into a wall in the mid eights, you will not be going much faster than that no matter how much you spend. At that point it becomes a cubewar, and rotaries can't win anymore.
Kajifox 5 years ago
Hell - the Hennessey 1000TT package will pull mid 8's on right around 1000rwhp, and that one (the 800) should be solidly in the 9's.
chrislapanse 5 years ago
well you just have to check out the bmw`s doing sevens then on this site..
masedama 3 years ago
You can make a Skyline produce similar power, and be quite reliable, actually. It costs a lot more money, though, which is definately a cedeable point, though I suppose it could be argued that in australia at least, the base cost of a Viper is about $160,000 and up -- They never did lose value, and were imported for an exorbitant cost to begin with (even now they're $210,000 new).
Kajifox 5 years ago
base cost of a viper is not 160.
you can buy a used hennesy N/A for 50k now.
and they were 75k base new, but that is here in the US.
but you can also get one used with 5k mi for 30k. not a bargain new, but used, they're a pretty good bargain.
bradleysparker 5 years ago
Base cost of a Viper is 160k here, seriously. We're not even getting the new ones -- Stupidly high costs around here for muscle gear, which is why we see Japanese cars (and parts) at the sort of low prices you guys see muscle at.
Kajifox 5 years ago
damn. that blows.
bradleysparker 5 years ago
Dude, there's a turbo S12 (Nissan Gazelle, not Chev)that gets underneath that time here. And it takes an eight hundred horsepower Viper to pull tens? Psh.
Kajifox 5 years ago
The launch was not good, as I imagine you noticed.
fatmeteor 5 years ago
Just to make this clear a venom800R is not a twin turbo'd car its a naturally aspirated 800 hp and its a full weight street legal car. Show me a nissan that does that?
dcsdr 5 years ago
Ben Diggles' S12. Full weight, street legal, single turbo FJ20ET running stock internals, and a GT35R. Simple modifications, 9.19 seconds -- It has to have an ANDRA cage and parachute according to the regs, but apart from the Mickey T's it wears on the runs, it's fully street legal.
Eight litres vs. two, I think -one- turbo's fair, don't you?
Kajifox 5 years ago
Ben Diggles' S12. Full interior car running an FJ20ET with stock internals, GT35R and FMIC. Basic modifications, nothing stupidly serious. Stock five-speed behind it, tuned to perhaps 650hp. That's a single turbo, not a twin, off two litres, that manages 9.19 in street legal trim with a parachute attached and ANDRA cage, being as that it needs it and all. Eight litres vs. two, I think one turbo's fair, don't you?
Kajifox 5 years ago
That wasnt my point, the viper engine is 8L for a reason. The possibility of having 800 NA Hp on an engine that can be daily driven and is reliable is what the viper has always been about.
dcsdr 5 years ago
And just to clear this up before it goes into an import vs domestics thing. I have no problem with imports but you cant make a full weight import go as fast as a viper and still be reliable. The fastest six speed in the world is a viper which is full weight street legal and driven on the streets in Las vegas.
dcsdr 5 years ago
How fast is the Vegas 6 speed viper?
Robkat3751 4 years ago
1500RWHP 3500+lbs it has run a 7.98@183MPH with street tires.
dcsdr 4 years ago
great time
SoonToBMarine 5 years ago
Daing!, Nice Ride
Star360 5 years ago