I don't know what happened with Ocean, they did so well in the Saiyan Saga, but it's as if they totally flopped after. It sounds like a director problem, but overall i think people are waaay too hard on Ocean.
@XxxSakura101 It was mainly a timescale problem. They literally had to dub around 10 episodes a week, considering the norm is 1-2 thats a lot, as they had very little time left on their licence to dub. This, if most people would bother to read other comments, post and what not, would give much more appreciation to the version of the dub.
even if i had grew up with the ocean dub, the moment i've would've heard funi dub, i would think: 'WHAT THE HECK HAVE I'VE BEEN WATCHING ALL THIS YEARS' 0.o THANK GOD I GREW UP WITH FUNIMATION DUB & THANK GOD FOR Bruce Faulconer :D
FUNi fans are so brainwashed & don't realize that 'their voices' are just retooled imitations of these actors...Yes, this clip blows. Part of that was because of the rushed schedule & terrible voice directors involved.
Over the years, FUNi has vastly improved, but when it comes to overall talent and vocal delivery, Ocean still mops the floor with FUNi. Just watch the library of dubbed anime from each studio and witness the truth yourself.
Ryo Horikawa is the real vegeta Brian Drummond and Chris sabbat are retards who hadnt any experience dubbing his voice. They altered his character by completely changing the characters dialogs that was just pure shit
@UnlimitedProdiction1 Ocean was on originally from the beginning of DBZ to when Goku killed the Ginyu Force on Namek. I forget which episode Ocean ends but Funimation continues immediately from then onwards on Toonami. It's funny cuz you can tell Chris Sabat was trying to imitate Brian Drummond's voice for a few episodes but then move into his own.
the only ocean dub dbz sage i liked was the friza saga vegeta was good voice there but after that funi took over with better voices in cell and buu saga
i like some of the actors from both dubs, some i wish they would switch around, like Napps Ocean Dub voice I liked it better, and the Ginyus ( some of them like Jeice) but I do like Gohan and Gokus ocean dub voice, but that doesnt mean i dont like the FUNI voices, I like Gokus funi better and im yied on Gohans voices, they both fit slightly.
@EthanNyx same and i do prefer bruce faulconer music but i also like the music from ocean cause its also pretty catchy and besides every dub has its better moments and sometimes its worse but theyre both great and i grew up with ocean so that feels more familiar aswell
@EthanNyx i think ur def right about combining them... i like Ocean gohan's scream waay better... not that funi's was a slouch... but with Schemmel's scream as goku, and Ocean Gohan's scream, i could see the lungs being a direct genetic inheritance lol
I like the idea of comparing the dubs, but does it really matter which is better? I grew of with the Funimation dubs, so I'm partial to them and always will be, and I'm sure it'd be the same with someone who grew up with/knows the Ocean dub. Even if lines are changed, music is different or voices sound 'funny' we're all fans of one show, so why debate?
@UniversalFailures lol i will admit funi's is better but i do have a soft spot for ocean because i grew up with it also i live in canada so that was the dub canadian television got
Um. Gohan sounds waaaay to young in the voice in the ocean dub at this point. This wouldn't have been a bad voice for kid or maybe even teen gohan. However, it sounds like he never hit puberty with the ocean dub voice at this point. So the voice really does not fit the character in looks and personality. So I, unbiasedly, on those facts alone fail the ocean dub voice.
i don't care how someone is supposed to sound because the Ocean dub is un-momentous while the Funimation dub gets you pumped and excited with in my opinion the best background music ever.
@johnnyk317 I shall now ignore your comment as the background music is not what I intended these videos to compare. Its a dub comparison, not a music comparison.
@DBZOceanDubs As much as I prefer the Ocean dubs, (even prefering the music) I think your comment is unfair. I think the music is very important in creating atmosphere, and is very much a part of the dub. Voice acting isnt the only skill which goes into creating the fantastic job that I beleive Ocean does, and "Johnnk317" clearly thinks Funimation does.
You said it yourself, this is Dub comparison. That means everything. Otherwise you should have called it "Voice comparison".
@TheAmvProject Even in terms of voice acting, i gotta hand it to Funi on that one, the emotion just seems more real, and the voices suit the characters better than Ocean's does.
@DBZOceanDubs I beg to differ. What it is is an overall comparison between the two english dubs, including background music. I gotta say, I used to find these important but now, years later, I find it pointless. You can't change anyone's opinion, especially with what they grew up with.
@Mugen026 If I could have been bothered i would have switched both of the backround musics with that from the original Japanese dub. but alas, I am lazy. My goal here is not to sway people opinions, but to learn them. They there are the trolls that appear just spewing insults at the ocean dub... =/
this might not make sense but it sounds to me in the ocean gohan sounds like just powering up but in the funi dub it sounds like he releasing a deep hidden power
@smsjgoku I think its seems the other way round. When the tone changes in his scream, its like hes tapping into his new power, kind of like Gokus SSJ3 transformation. He also sounds so much more shocked at the increase in Ocean Dub. Heh, just my opinion, your entitled to your own too
@DBZOceanDubs Thank you so much. I hate all these people who say Ocean dub is better by calling Funi GAY and fans FAGS. You are actually very logical. You can actually state your opinion with a LOGICAL explanation. I am a fan of Funi, and honestly, I wouldn't mind debating with you which dub is better. ;)
@JamesBond007108 Its the only way. I HATE people that have to resort to mindless insults because they can't use what little grey matter they have between their ears to find an actual reason why they prefer on to the other. I can always see which one is better, even if I don't like the outcome, yet I'll still point out any good and bad points of either. Any time :) Ask and I shall see what i can dig up footage-wise.
Any who..I like Funi because I LOVE the voices, the music is AMAZING, and it has so much feel to it. I've never tried seeing the Ocean dub, but I might try it because I really want to see the different voices. Like, I've never seen Mystic Gohan's Ocean vice.
@jordan2613 Ocean Gohan sounds like he is supposed to, a teenager. He is only 16-17 at this point, which is actually portrayed rather well by Brad Swaile. Unlike Kyle Hebert, who makes him sound mid-20s.
@44ewq321 Nope, he is 4 at the start of the series. 1 year for the Saiyans to appear, 6 months for trip to Namek, year and a half waiting for Goku to return, 3 years training for the Androids, and 7 years after the Cell Games. 4 + 1 + 0.5 + 1.5 + 3 = 10. 10 + 7 = 17 (the year in the RoSaT isn't counted by the Daizenshuu). Care to check my math just in case?
but also, didn't he spend the equivalent of year in the hyperbolic time chamber when he spent that day train for cell? he aged there as well, so he would be 18
but yeah, 19-20 was higher than what his age actually was, but i thought for sure it had mentioned him being 12 for the cell fight
@44ewq321 The main misconceptions that i was trying to address in this part is that FUNimation labelled him "Teen Gohan" when he is only 10-11 (also if you read my comment, the year in the RoSaT -or Hyperbolic Time Chamber as your more used to knowing it as- isnt counted by Daizenshuu").
In my opinion Ocean's gt some good aspects to it e.g Vegeta (Originally from Funi) ++ Some of the music is rather epic, but Gohan's voice is to high pitched for my liking ; don't think Ocean have heard of puberty.
I've always thought Kyle Herbert sucked as Gohan. Brad Swaile is far far superior. Elder Kaioushin sounds like crap in both of them. Kibito is better in FUNimation. For Gokuu, Kirby Morrow has the better voice but Sean Schemmel puts more emotion into it. The music is slightly betteri n Ocean.
Gotta give it to Ocean here. Gohan's VA just KILLED it on the power-up here, totally trumped Funi. However, I prefer Funi's Old Kai and Kibeto. Just me though/
Funi wins! Gohan's voice in Ocean dub sounds like Uub in Funi dub!
Primape92 4 days ago
I don't know what happened with Ocean, they did so well in the Saiyan Saga, but it's as if they totally flopped after. It sounds like a director problem, but overall i think people are waaay too hard on Ocean.
XxxSakura101 5 days ago
@XxxSakura101 It was mainly a timescale problem. They literally had to dub around 10 episodes a week, considering the norm is 1-2 thats a lot, as they had very little time left on their licence to dub. This, if most people would bother to read other comments, post and what not, would give much more appreciation to the version of the dub.
DBZOceanDubs 5 days ago
in terms of professional quality voice acting, ocean sounds a lot better to me
RoryRockNRoller 2 weeks ago
subs are better anyway
philosophermike 1 month ago
@philosophermike Take it to the extreme and say Manga, then take that to the extreme and say novels are better.
XxxSakura101 4 days ago
even if i had grew up with the ocean dub, the moment i've would've heard funi dub, i would think: 'WHAT THE HECK HAVE I'VE BEEN WATCHING ALL THIS YEARS' 0.o THANK GOD I GREW UP WITH FUNIMATION DUB & THANK GOD FOR Bruce Faulconer :D
juexan9911 2 months ago
@juexan9911 the 1st 53 episodes were ocean, but the ocean cast was hired to do those episodes by funimation so it was actually good
jimmym95 1 day ago
Funimation is kaiokenX20 better :D
MathwizandKeyshawn 2 months ago
big green ftw
USkicksass 2 months ago 2
Ocean dub isn't bad, it's just different since most people have only ever heard the Funimation dub.
JHaru777 2 months ago
hes not even luking powerful i wanted even more! :(
DJ1000ization 3 months ago
Ocean wins... it's not as tacky and it's less suited to fanboys.
therealist811 4 months ago
Is Ocean Dub the Canadian company?
Natashaaaaaaaa 4 months ago
Ocean sounds weird
WarriorsOrochiRules 4 months ago
ocean dub managed to make mystic gohan seem even gayer
shaddiGhumri 4 months ago
@shaddiGhumri i donno they made him sound like a teenager rather then a man
sunny123able1 4 months ago
agreed. Ocean fails totally!! FUNimation made it the best scene with that background music for sure!
franll2507 4 months ago
Ocean Dub Gohan is voiced by Light Yagami from Death Note
Funimation Gohan is voiced by Ryu from Street Fighter 4
I let you make your own minds up to who is more awesome
YouAreSuperMario 5 months ago 4
@YouAreSuperMario KAMEHAMEHADUKEN!
Jolamarajami 5 months ago
I LOVE the scream from ocean dub! :D That guy really knows how to voice act..
HiddenAbilities 5 months ago 2
i say funimation wins here. the funimation voices just fit better here. the ocean voices are okay but old kai & kibito's voice is just bad here.
DragonBallGTim 5 months ago 2
Kibito wins in the Ocean Dub
Biby256 5 months ago 4
@Biby256
Kibito hurts!
cdog215546 4 months ago
Funimation FTW!
DarkxXxKai 5 months ago
FUNi fans are so brainwashed & don't realize that 'their voices' are just retooled imitations of these actors...Yes, this clip blows. Part of that was because of the rushed schedule & terrible voice directors involved.
Over the years, FUNi has vastly improved, but when it comes to overall talent and vocal delivery, Ocean still mops the floor with FUNi. Just watch the library of dubbed anime from each studio and witness the truth yourself.
capnbarfy 5 months ago
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capnbarfy 5 months ago
lol ocean old kai
goku123e 5 months ago
Definitely ocean!
arabie2006 5 months ago
Ryo Horikawa is the real vegeta Brian Drummond and Chris sabbat are retards who hadnt any experience dubbing his voice. They altered his character by completely changing the characters dialogs that was just pure shit
PrinceofSaiyajins456 6 months ago 2
LOL Ocean dub fails hardcore!
iTzFrantiC 6 months ago
Am I the only one that went "Omg Light Yagami" when I heard Gohan's Ocean voice?
FrankenTeddyBear 6 months ago
Why does Funimation Gohan sound like a fag? Were they high when they cast him?
thestealthassasin19 6 months ago
ocean is horrible funi is the best dub
lilddonovandark 6 months ago
Okay I remember Funimation being broadcast on Toonami when was Ocean group or whatever used?
UnlimitedProdiction1 7 months ago
@UnlimitedProdiction1 Ocean was on originally from the beginning of DBZ to when Goku killed the Ginyu Force on Namek. I forget which episode Ocean ends but Funimation continues immediately from then onwards on Toonami. It's funny cuz you can tell Chris Sabat was trying to imitate Brian Drummond's voice for a few episodes but then move into his own.
Roxas3310 7 months ago
the only ocean dub dbz sage i liked was the friza saga vegeta was good voice there but after that funi took over with better voices in cell and buu saga
FranklinF5 7 months ago
I think ocean dub is somewhat dull compared to funi, but in some cases ocean has it's moments..
Jacce013 7 months ago
funi is best and ocean is a bunch of canadians that do nothing but hiss to make most voices sound better
Zhinga4NERD 7 months ago
Old kai sounds like grandpa Simpson lol
TiJazzman 7 months ago
i like some of the actors from both dubs, some i wish they would switch around, like Napps Ocean Dub voice I liked it better, and the Ginyus ( some of them like Jeice) but I do like Gohan and Gokus ocean dub voice, but that doesnt mean i dont like the FUNI voices, I like Gokus funi better and im yied on Gohans voices, they both fit slightly.
EthanNyx 7 months ago
@EthanNyx same and i do prefer bruce faulconer music but i also like the music from ocean cause its also pretty catchy and besides every dub has its better moments and sometimes its worse but theyre both great and i grew up with ocean so that feels more familiar aswell
dragonlava1 7 months ago
@EthanNyx i think ur def right about combining them... i like Ocean gohan's scream waay better... not that funi's was a slouch... but with Schemmel's scream as goku, and Ocean Gohan's scream, i could see the lungs being a direct genetic inheritance lol
ThisGuy1219 7 months ago
I like the idea of comparing the dubs, but does it really matter which is better? I grew of with the Funimation dubs, so I'm partial to them and always will be, and I'm sure it'd be the same with someone who grew up with/knows the Ocean dub. Even if lines are changed, music is different or voices sound 'funny' we're all fans of one show, so why debate?
Fireruby12 7 months ago
WTF is with Kibito's voice in Ocean dub?!?!?
Jamie0093 7 months ago
funimation music just makes the series so epic! it really gets you pumped
lucuador1992 8 months ago
i couldn't help but laugh after hearing Kibito's ocean dub voice...
portershb34 8 months ago
Ocean dub has the best music by far but the voices in Funimation are better.
DrownedInTheDepths 8 months ago
does anyone know what else the voice actors of mystic gohan and goku from the ocean dub has been in? because iv'e heard their voices somewhere before
TheChazerofthekey171 8 months ago
funimation owns
jimmym95 8 months ago
we can all agree that the fundimation totaly owns DBZ
piggykiller77 8 months ago 2
Funimation Dub had more personality than the Oceans Dub. Oceans Dub made DBZ seem like it was just another DIC cartoon.
YOUNGJUBI1andOnly 8 months ago
I like funi better just because the main character's voices are deeper and in my opinion that makes them seem more intense and more powerful
n20cwh 8 months ago
I'm sorry, but in my opinion, the only good voice in Ocean Dub is Vegeta's.
LordSesshomaru028 9 months ago
Kibito sounds like Kermit the Frog.
Damolisher 9 months ago
lol kibito sounds like the krept keeper :)
robstopmotion98 9 months ago
Why does everyone in the Ocean dub sound like a child?
vehicledestroyer 9 months ago
Lol why does old kai sound like abe from the simpsons?
TheWhiz93 9 months ago
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Funimation wins!
Ocean fails!
UniversalFailures 9 months ago 46
@UniversalFailures ocean gohan sounds gay, and old kai sounds stupid. dont make me remind everyone of kabito's voice lmao sounds like some obese guy
Idleon1 8 months ago
@UniversalFailures Like always
afc97 7 months ago
@UniversalFailures lol i will admit funi's is better but i do have a soft spot for ocean because i grew up with it also i live in canada so that was the dub canadian television got
AnimeReviewTV 7 months ago
Haha, what? Ocean dub Kibito sounds like a frog. I just can't take that voice seriously...
Gadoink1 9 months ago
@Gadoink1 :E me neither haha
Royz5 9 months ago
In the ocean dub gohan sounds like a chipmunk
350z89 9 months ago 3
Um. Gohan sounds waaaay to young in the voice in the ocean dub at this point. This wouldn't have been a bad voice for kid or maybe even teen gohan. However, it sounds like he never hit puberty with the ocean dub voice at this point. So the voice really does not fit the character in looks and personality. So I, unbiasedly, on those facts alone fail the ocean dub voice.
KetsuRosataMalnor 9 months ago
The Ocean dub kibito sounds like batman from The Dark Knight
kingmichaelish 10 months ago 2
I prefer the Funi Power-up yells/voices in this scene... Ocean Dub for the old Kai sounds like Grandpa from the Simpsons...
SlashtheWolf18 10 months ago
i prefer gokus funi voice but other than that its ocean all the way
baka277 10 months ago
old kai sounds like grandpa simpson. ocean = shit.
hustleboy62 10 months ago
i don't care how someone is supposed to sound because the Ocean dub is un-momentous while the Funimation dub gets you pumped and excited with in my opinion the best background music ever.
johnnyk317 10 months ago 26
@johnnyk317 I shall now ignore your comment as the background music is not what I intended these videos to compare. Its a dub comparison, not a music comparison.
DBZOceanDubs 10 months ago
@DBZOceanDubs As much as I prefer the Ocean dubs, (even prefering the music) I think your comment is unfair. I think the music is very important in creating atmosphere, and is very much a part of the dub. Voice acting isnt the only skill which goes into creating the fantastic job that I beleive Ocean does, and "Johnnk317" clearly thinks Funimation does.
You said it yourself, this is Dub comparison. That means everything. Otherwise you should have called it "Voice comparison".
Cheers.
TheAmvProject 10 months ago 10
@TheAmvProject Even in terms of voice acting, i gotta hand it to Funi on that one, the emotion just seems more real, and the voices suit the characters better than Ocean's does.
SitarKnight 9 months ago
@DBZOceanDubs I beg to differ. What it is is an overall comparison between the two english dubs, including background music. I gotta say, I used to find these important but now, years later, I find it pointless. You can't change anyone's opinion, especially with what they grew up with.
Mugen026 10 months ago
@Mugen026 If I could have been bothered i would have switched both of the backround musics with that from the original Japanese dub. but alas, I am lazy. My goal here is not to sway people opinions, but to learn them. They there are the trolls that appear just spewing insults at the ocean dub... =/
DBZOceanDubs 9 months ago
@johnnyk317 dude the Funimation background music is awful its just heavy guitar the real bgm from the original version is sooo much better
reka0822 7 months ago
An 18 year old kid can look and sound like he's in his mid 20's...I do according to the random people at the bar when I have to DD...Christ.
riomariucci 10 months ago
Personally I love funi version. The characters don't sound as emotional in the ocean dub but both are great... most of the time : P >.<
randomdudeof2010 10 months ago
the ocean dub voices sound so stereotype like old kai he sounds like a normal old man i guess master roshi sounds the exact same too
ldsboy93 11 months ago
Only reason that people hate ocean dub is that they wont allow themselves to be openminded. I grew up with ocean dub but I also like funi too
darkgokussj 11 months ago
this might not make sense but it sounds to me in the ocean gohan sounds like just powering up but in the funi dub it sounds like he releasing a deep hidden power
smsjgoku 11 months ago
@smsjgoku I think its seems the other way round. When the tone changes in his scream, its like hes tapping into his new power, kind of like Gokus SSJ3 transformation. He also sounds so much more shocked at the increase in Ocean Dub. Heh, just my opinion, your entitled to your own too
DBZOceanDubs 11 months ago
@DBZOceanDubs Thank you so much. I hate all these people who say Ocean dub is better by calling Funi GAY and fans FAGS. You are actually very logical. You can actually state your opinion with a LOGICAL explanation. I am a fan of Funi, and honestly, I wouldn't mind debating with you which dub is better. ;)
JamesBond007108 11 months ago
@JamesBond007108 Its the only way. I HATE people that have to resort to mindless insults because they can't use what little grey matter they have between their ears to find an actual reason why they prefer on to the other. I can always see which one is better, even if I don't like the outcome, yet I'll still point out any good and bad points of either. Any time :) Ask and I shall see what i can dig up footage-wise.
DBZOceanDubs 11 months ago
@DBZOceanDubs Exactly!
Any who..I like Funi because I LOVE the voices, the music is AMAZING, and it has so much feel to it. I've never tried seeing the Ocean dub, but I might try it because I really want to see the different voices. Like, I've never seen Mystic Gohan's Ocean vice.
JamesBond007108 11 months ago
funimation is beast
PengDroid 1 year ago
wow ocean sucks man
TheLolfest100 1 year ago
@disturbedgir11 lmao fine then
jordan2613 1 year ago
OCEAN LOSES GOHAN SOUNDS LIKE A FAGGOT AND KIBITO SOUNDS LIKE A BLACK GUY
jordan2613 1 year ago
@jordan2613 Ocean Gohan sounds like he is supposed to, a teenager. He is only 16-17 at this point, which is actually portrayed rather well by Brad Swaile. Unlike Kyle Hebert, who makes him sound mid-20s.
DBZOceanDubs 11 months ago
@DBZOceanDubs actually, wouldn't he be around 19-20 possibly even 21, since he was about 12-13 around the cell games, and this is 7 years later?
44ewq321 11 months ago
@44ewq321 Nope, he is 4 at the start of the series. 1 year for the Saiyans to appear, 6 months for trip to Namek, year and a half waiting for Goku to return, 3 years training for the Androids, and 7 years after the Cell Games. 4 + 1 + 0.5 + 1.5 + 3 = 10. 10 + 7 = 17 (the year in the RoSaT isn't counted by the Daizenshuu). Care to check my math just in case?
DBZOceanDubs 10 months ago
@DBZOceanDubs Dude Piccolo says Gohan is an 11 year old boy AT the Cell games.. 7 years go by, he's 18. no math required.
defenderDX 10 months ago
@DBZOceanDubs
but also, didn't he spend the equivalent of year in the hyperbolic time chamber when he spent that day train for cell? he aged there as well, so he would be 18
but yeah, 19-20 was higher than what his age actually was, but i thought for sure it had mentioned him being 12 for the cell fight
44ewq321 10 months ago
@44ewq321 The main misconceptions that i was trying to address in this part is that FUNimation labelled him "Teen Gohan" when he is only 10-11 (also if you read my comment, the year in the RoSaT -or Hyperbolic Time Chamber as your more used to knowing it as- isnt counted by Daizenshuu").
DBZOceanDubs 10 months ago
@DBZOceanDubs actually he's 18. or supposed to be
defenderDX 10 months ago
OCEAN LOSES GOHAN SOUNDS LIKE A FAGGOT
jordan2613 1 year ago
Ocean wins on this one.
therealist811 1 year ago
In my opinion Ocean's gt some good aspects to it e.g Vegeta (Originally from Funi) ++ Some of the music is rather epic, but Gohan's voice is to high pitched for my liking ; don't think Ocean have heard of puberty.
WabZ2k9 1 year ago
@WabZ2k9 i don't think it's really fair to compare ocean to funi, after all, ocean is canadian....... LOL
ovywan08 1 year ago
I've always thought Kyle Herbert sucked as Gohan. Brad Swaile is far far superior. Elder Kaioushin sounds like crap in both of them. Kibito is better in FUNimation. For Gokuu, Kirby Morrow has the better voice but Sean Schemmel puts more emotion into it. The music is slightly betteri n Ocean.
Overall, Ocean wins just barely.
TheUnbreakableOtaku 1 year ago
Gotta give it to Ocean here. Gohan's VA just KILLED it on the power-up here, totally trumped Funi. However, I prefer Funi's Old Kai and Kibeto. Just me though/
yaburu 1 year ago