The Socialist Utopia - The Social Democrats, part 1

[RiverSkyHigh]

Social Democracy/Democratic Socialism is not some evil system -- it's probably the only system which treats humanity with dignity and respect, rather than recognizing them only as robotic consumerists.

Yes, Sweden did take part in forced sterilizations during the early 20th century, but so did America and many other countries during that time. It was sort of a fad then. But really, do you think they do that now? Get real.

[SternMann93]

I'm Finnish, and today I'm witnessing the slow tearing down of our social democratic system for the benefit of privatizing of former communal and state services.

Social democracy is what lifted my country into what it is today. We reached a peak in terms of financial equality in the late 80's, but it has decreased since. We are still one of the socially most equal contries in the world along with the rest of scandinavia, and I hope we can preserve it.

[ddd82451]

Too bad the US political contains conservatives who don't want universal healthcare/take care of their own citizens(when someone is injured or hurt in the US and is taken to the hospital, we taxpayers PAY for it, whether we want to or not.)

[am1966ath]

@ddd82451 That is up to the US-voters..not swedish politicians or left wing journalists..they are not us-policy makers.

[am1966ath]

@ddd82451 Mayby so but thats up to the voters in the US..not the little swedes to tell 300million people in the US what to do and how to live their lives..

[ddd82451]

I think we have alot to learn about the Nordic Model/Sweden: Poverty has almost been eliminated, college education is provided to everyone,regardless of income,virtually free, there are high levels of voter turnout and wide public approval from all sides of the political spectrum.

[TwiztidcAsh]

@ddd82451 Sweden is dying

In order to have strong welfare system... you need young and productive people... which Sweden DONT have.

Most of the native swedes are old, there are few new-born swedes.

Immigrants demanding welfare and old swedes demanding also money... they can't have in the year 2020... there will be noone to pay for their demands

[TheLightlord]

I now yore voice aren't you a moderat?, if you are then you shouldn't say thees things about my fellow red-green party!

[Jasminewynja]

Socialdemokraterna was a socialist party before Palme were murdered. After that they changed their ideology and with Göran Persson the last part of socialistic ideologies died in Socialdemokraterna.

[MjolnerBane]

Swedish social democrates = both rigthies and lefties working together.... NOT a socialist party anymore, PERIOD.

[MjolnerBane]

@MjolnerBane or well, its left-middle :P

[Freethinker12341]

umm... this is wrong

[ImForwardlook]

Olof Palme is one of the most evil men ever. What a monster.

[MAlgMAlg1]

@ImForwardlook and your an idiot

[cellan88]

Sweden will never be run by the banks unlike the Corporate States of America

[PsychoPunk1965]

The Swedish Social Democratic Party are not the evil tyrants this right-wing nut claims. While being for economic statism in the form of democratic socialism (which made Sweden have one of the highest standards of living in the world), the Swedish Social Democratic Party has been the highest proponents of civil liberties. 

[HammarnUT]

@PsychoPunk1965 Considering that the Social Democrats have been responsible for forcibly sterilizing a larger portion of the country's population than any other society in the western world; massive registration of political opponents; incarceration in concentration camps of thousands of people during WW2; and child custody laws that make it so easy for the state to snatch children - I'm afraid that I'll have to point out that the Swedish Social Democrats are true fascists.

[MAlgMAlg1]

@HammarnUT Considering that you got it on the back foot, without the social demokrats and the communist party sweden would never have the secure and comfortable working conditions we have now. Nether would we be an actual democracy, church would be tied to the state and there would be no free healthcare. without "sossarna" we would basically all be stuck in the horrible bourgeois society of early 1900s

[mmatei0]

@HammarnUT Hey Moron, the Anglo-American Imperialist Wagon is Waiting For You!!!

[FRSFreeStateES]

@PsychoPunk1965

Did Sweden Socialist Democratic system make Sweden have one of the highest Living Standards in the World? Or did the Swedish People accomplish that?

[PsychoPunk1965]

@FRSFreeStateES The Swedish people voted for the Social Democrats, and their enlightened vote for the SDP starting in 1932 and on and off since then made Sweden the nation it is today.

[FRSFreeStateES]

@PsychoPunk1965

So did the Social Democrats give Sweden its high standards of living or did the Swedish People? 

[askwara]

@FRSFreeStateES Sweden is golden cage. I lived there for 10 years, No thank you!

[FRSFreeStateES]

@askwara

No thank you for your input

[pkpapers]

@PsychoPunk1965 All people who are against expert-imposed progress are correctly termed "right wing nuts." Go getem,' comrade.

[am1966ath]

@PsychoPunk1965 Really?..is this why swedish professionals are so poor and highly taxed?..Olof Palme and Goran Persson where highly intolerant rulers..the S-party historia is full of crimes(Baltutlamningne 1946,tvangssterilisering=Inga Thorsson,support of the khmer rouge=Birgitta Dahl,support to Fidel Castro=Olof Palme...S-party=totalitarian one-party state for 70years. Unfortunately globalisation and no-governmenttal media has broken the S-patys monopoly on power and media.

[am1966ath]

@PsychoPunk1965 Skryt sa lagom du..svenska akademiker ar internationellt satt ganska fattiga..att ha en standardiserad vanning med IKEA mobler ar inte hojden av levnadsstandard. (S) har inte varit speciellt tolerant mot oliktankande..titta pa IB-affaren,sjukhusspionen,boge­n Ebbe Carlssons aktiviteter och tvangssterilisering vittnar inte om ett demokratiskt sinnelag.

[TwiztidcAsh]

Sweden... land of the suicide males (the highest levels of suicides and teen suicides)\

Sweden... the land of rabid anti-jewish racism and Islamic conservatism

Sweden ... where the gender war already started ;)

[OneVoiceofTruth10]

re check your facts... as stormwern said.. this is misleading of made up.. there is NO facts or evidence that backs a good 90% up... you are talking about corrupted Marxism! re-check...

also dont respond.. ill block.. again.. failed

[Stormwern]

much of this is misleading or plain made up

[DrStrangebomb1993]

@Stormwern Au contraire... what's made up is what the socialist democrats want the population of Sweden to believe...

[Warzoooooo]

Boxant: Sadly because many here belive's the goverment can micro manage better than the free market can manage it self. But if you ask the same people if they really think the goverment know better what they want the answer you "no!". Most just dont understand the whole picture, and people here think politics is like rocket sciens.

[boxant]

Why is the appeal of socialism so strong in the Scandinavian countries?

[HammarnUT]

I attribute it to a homogenous population. All countries that have had that have embraced socialism, since the people trust leaders that are of their own kind. In the USA with its diversity, the opposite is true, of course.

[boxant]

The founders of America were all white males and predominantly protestant, but establish a minarchist constitution.

Granted, today, USA is the most powerful State in existence :\

Hopefully both our countries can turn it around.

[sellammar]

@HammarnUT Swedes like to pay high taxes and love to work hard. Im an immigrant now living in Sweden. I dont work. I dont have to. The government support me economically. Swedes are far more nice and generous toward us immigrants. Ha ha ha I love Sweden.

[Tougemaster06]

@HammarnUT Not so much trusting the leaders, but people trusting each other...

[GodOfTheInternets]

@boxant

There is no appeal of socialism whatsoever. There is private ownership, commodity production, wage labour, etc. It's capitalist.

[Stickmodee]

Eurodouchebagsocialistscumsuck­ingshitforbrainscollectivistcr­apspewingbullshit.