Face to face with Carl Jung - Part 2 of 4

[BetweenParallels]

He was such a damn genius.

[MyMentalistmind]

I find him very interesting. It is very hard to hear what he is saying however. I wish there was a revamped, digitally restored, sound restored verison of this interview. If someone knows of one can you please let me know? Very hard to understand what he is saying!! :P

[kevinherbert]

Bruce Springsteen's "Forever Jung"..one of his gr8 tunes....

[1isaacmusic]

Hie eyes and facial movements are giving answers that deviate from what he is thinking . I wish I knew what it was he was really thinking . I can only say I am moved, ...having been the first time i have ever listened to Jung,.. I feel like i am watching myself answer questions 30+ years from now. Thank you for posting these.

[freedomfromthemind]

As important as Jung's upbringing is (and I personally dont care for it) ... is the whole interview going to revolve around his past? Can we not get into the things that really matter, the things that he was currently thinking, proving, discovering?

[marshallstak]

Jung's genius was to analyse his OWN experience...to see the phenomenon of his own experience as worthy of legitimate exploration, this interviewer is so thick and average (as John Lennon would say) trying to analyse Jung in "acceptable" Freudian terms....childhood, child hood!!!...Jung instead turns the tables saying he simply stepped out of "the mist" of his childhood to an unprovoked/unexplained EXPERIENCE of self...how sad for those who deny the validity of such mysterious moments of clarity

[khargooshkhargoosh]

he was a joke

[eppurse]

Sounds like you weren't listening...

[BobBurnnquist]

Am i the only one who noticed his pointy elf ears?

[Devin1541]

I love Carl Jung. I think half of his perspectives, insights, teachings, etc. are pseudo-prophetic drivel. However, I also think the man understood how to become a self-assured, independent individual and contributed an inordinate amount to the study of personality. I love Freud too--both have to be understood properly in the history of psychology and their own time frame.

[gerryhiles]

@Riste1986 Agreed.  Jung "New Age" LOL.

[Farquad777]

Did anybody else think he was full of shit when he said he "took one [boy], just swang him around with his legs...and beat down four of them until I was satisfied?"

[iolimada]

what new age dude?

[ThePoltergueist]

House of Jung in Lake Zurich; youtube.com/watch?v=76u3zAxZJh­M

[Joke9972]

He couldn't be his grandfather in another time...

[tapolna]

A teacher, with absolute certainty, accused Jung of plagiarism! Jung "hated" that teacher so much that if he could "meet him in a dark corner" he would have shown him his feelings. The teacher had his truth and Jung had his. But, neither is correct. The teacher's, based on teaching experience, but no paper is absolutely original. If it was, no one would understand it. However, there is also "plagiarism" as a culturally accepted truth. There are no absolute truths its all relative.

[theaustinmcbride]

@tapolna say something- or you are saying nothing.

[tapolna]

@theaustinmcbride - You really want an explanation? The vid talked about an accusation of plagiarism: teacher v. Jung. I point out all writing depends on what some else wrote, i.e. all writing is plagiarized to some extent. Thus, the definition of plagiarism MUST be cultural defined. Therefore, the teacher's "truth" as well as Jung's "truth" were culturally defined, i.e. their truths were relative as oppose to absolute or universal. (vs. Justinfinity's comment below)

[theaustinmcbride]

@tapolna "You really want an explanation?" No. You have insulted me enough. "The vid talked about an accusation of plagiarism: teacher v. Jung." "A teacher, with absolute certainty, accused Jung of plagiarism!" "I point out all writing depends on what some else wrote, i.e. all writing is plagiarized to some extent." "..."plagiarism" as a culturally accepted truth." "i.e. their truths were relative as oppose to absolute or universal" "There are no absolute truths its all relative."

[33winterbirds]

Thank you for this excellent footage of Carl Jung. I have always been a great fan of his work, at least what I could understand. I never thought I would see his face so clearly and hear his words from his own mouth. I don't know where you obtained this footage, but it is really great. Thanks again.

[MrAzdaz]

And the truth shall set you free

[Gemendelos]

Carl Jung has been writing many interesting things.I like his ways of describing the person as consisting of many layers,the persona(the mask),anima ,animus,the shadow part,the hero and the self. I think the ideas about the self is most fascinating.I really like what i have read with this person.

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[cellardoor199991]

I like it when he talks about kicking that guys ass. Nobody messes with carl.

[DJpoppa35]

hes so honest! hhahaa

[Darrell861]

@DJpoppa35

I want to join this chat. Are you pro-Jung, or anti-Jung like me?

[DJpoppa35]

@Darrell861 Um im both i have disagreements and i have some agreements.

[Darrell861]

@DJpoppa35 Do you agree with Jung's claim that he had the ability to interpret the dreams of others? And that he was always correct? As far as I'm concerened, no one has the ability to interpret dreams. Anyone making that claim is a liar and a fraud. Oh, and, a megalomaniac. To do so in the context of being a licensed psychiatrist is unethical.

[obhesh]

photo986--What was done to you was not only a crime against you, it reprents a medical abomination on par with Mengele. To answer your question, Dr. Jung would have been disgusted. Jung was a large man, he probably would have given Cameron a proper ass-kicking! May the remainder of your life be full of health and happiness.

[photo986]

I wonder what Carl Jung would have thought of Dr Cameron once President of the World Psychiatric Assoc. He was paid by the CIA to carry out barbaric brainwashing experiments on innocent lawabiding Canadians. He injected LSD mixed with other drugs, Massive electric shocks and weeks of sleep as a brainwash tape played. I was one of his victims. I am telling my story on You tube called youkilledyourmother

[kstreletzk]

CGJ confront the monster within himself so that he did not have to act it out on others. As to Ewan Cameron, and MKultra, I'm thrilled that you've SURVIVED the efforts to deprive you of your personality. BRAVO! Good on ya. . . . .

[Darrell861]

@photo986 Hi, Darrell here. I saw your interview on You Tube. I am not in the flow of this chat. Are you pro-Jung, or anti-Jung? I am anti- Jung and have been for years. Jung never brainwashed anybody, as you were. Rather, Jung fooled people. He fooled people into believing that he had the ability to interpret other people's dreams. All my best to you for surviving your ordeal. --D

[chiasmata]

AMAZING!

[TonyBtheEG]

Thanks for sharing.

[Joaopandao]

he and freud studied astrology deeply, but that matter is not mentioned.

they studied the symbols, the meanings, not like an astrologist to say some "amazing" things and earn money...

[Harikrishnalove]

Carl Jung never credit the fortune of his wife Emma Raischenback that made his day when he run her household. Emma die in 1955, so you can imagine how lucky Jung was. They had 5 children, however, it wasn't a happy married. Jung always had lady friends, particularly Toti Wolf that he invited to his own house for dinner openly and sarcastically agaisnt the will of Emma, his sueprwealthy wife and daughter of industrials...The alchemy of money , per se...Nice and lucky guy!

Marlen Arguedas-

[serpentineflame]

how is that to be considered even remotely lucky? jung was 80 when his wife died, what is it that he is going to go and do at 80, fall into profligacy? Also when a man has access to financial resources and he uses it to his success, it is called an investment. However wealthy she may have been, Jung significantly increased her worth. If you're only measure of a man's character is his liquidity, perhaps you would do better to look to Mitt Romney for the answers to your life questions.

[runelord37]

you sound fairly judgemental, what does that have to do with his thoughts or philosophy?

[photo986]

I wonder what Dr Jung would think of Dr Ewan Cameron (psychiatrist) He was paid by the CIA to carry out secret brainwashing experiments code named MKULTRA Cameron injected me with LSD mixed with other drugs, Massive electric shocks and weeks of sleep as a brainwash tape played. It was horrifc and destroyed my life. I talk about it on you tube under youkilledyourmother and u can watch videos under MKUltra

[noeinstein]

I am sure Jung would regard Cameron with disgust.

[Frogstomp121]

Rebirth is an affirmation that must be counted among the primordial affirmations of mankind. The concept of rebirth necessarily implies the continuity of personality. Here the human personality is regarded as continuous and accessible to memory, so that, when one is incarnated or born, one is able, potentially, to remember that one has lived through previous existences, and that these existences were one's own, ie, they had the same ego form as the present life.

Carl Jung

[TheUnseenUniversity]

Thank you for posting these wonderful videos. What a lovely man to listen to; brings everything I have heard and read to life....!

[permee]

Boldly stating that he was always in doubt proves the man's genius and explains his brilliancy.

[countertransferene]

tut tut tut, what good is the horn? Tut tut tut, that will do you honk. tut tut tut tut, and paranoia is not good. tut tut tut, if the Americans are mistaken when read. tut tut tut. America does not read well. tut tut tut. Amis trip to hell. tut tut tut.

[strawberrywineaazz]

tut tut tut. Go to school.

[metaltonxito]

I wish I could hit the interviewer on the face...XD

[TempusTransit]

If only Jung had been around long enough or involved enough to have had said something for the state of law in the world in which visible, masculine crimes of violence are not tolerated while seemingly invisble or verbal, feminine crimes which pass under radar are tolerated. These so-called invisible crimes are the source I believe of all crimes, and probably perpetrated more than anyone by the judicial system with its police, judges, lawyers, and politicians.

[MagiMysteryTour]

If you are being manipulated by women in your life, you need to get away from them. You can't justify physical violence toward them by how they may be treating you.

Jung wouldn't have condoned violence toward women.

[ipublica]

I never knew he suffered so much. It is a wonderful and enlightening production. I am very thankful for the producer to put it here. Thanks so much!

Pierre

[mitohistoriador]

Jung did not "prove" a single thing, but everything he said is true; Skinner proved everything, but everything he proved is not true.

How is that for linguistic behavior?

[aonutsihasnouith]

wow one of the best youtube comments i've read! nice!

[mitohistoriador]

Once again, the narrow insistence on "hard science" in a field that belongs more to the humanities is as ignorant as asking one to explain Hamlet on the basis of rat psychology. This shows how Skinner's philosophical incompetence is transmitted to those who would worship him next to their Medieval God. Behaviorism is ψ without soul-what J fought all his life!

[ABAisSCIENCE]

Words of dislike of Skinner's insistance of science in field: Heidbreder (1939) states, it's profoundly regretted, Skinner didn't attempt to tie up his work & his thinking with rest of psychologys experimental data & concepts ... this reviewer can agree with publishers comment that book represents most successful description of behavior of individual organism thus far achieved. ... about only psychologist whose work Skinner mentions (aside from his own co-workers) is physiologist Pavlov.

[mitohistoriador]

Jung did not "prove" a single thing, but everything he said is true; Skinner proved everything, but everything he proved is not true. For a little epistemological reflection shows that science has nothing to do with truth, only with predictability and statistical reliability, which is something existentially devoid of meaning. And you will say, quoting your favorite philosopher JC, that only the son of God is the Truth, for it is within and not external to oneself as are scientific "truths"

[mitohistoriador]

One must remark the point that Jung makes here to distinguish him from Freud: his study of philosophy and Kant. I wonder how many Jungians could say that they've steeped themselves in Kantian philosophy--they tend to be such philosophical "lunk heads" as Jung himself called his so-called followers.

[ABAisSCIENCE]

MitoHistoriador,

Tell me something Jung proved scientifically?

There are over 600 articles proving efficacy of ABA for autism treatment (one population of people for behavior modification to be evaluated by).

What has Spielrein, Jung, Freud, Vygotsky, or Piaget proven?

Beside Jung, can have sex with Sabina; Freud, cocaine can increase sex desire; Sabina can influence nonscientific people with bunk; & Vygotsky & Piaget, they can talk about talk.

Nothing scientifically shown though.

[mitohistoriador]

Your notion of "science" is on the level of your faith in the Religion of the Middle Ages; but its all about control with these Skinnerean rats who have no problem comparing themselves to their own pets-for I don't mean to insult the rats! On the other hand, EVERYTHING Jung talks about is grounded on experienc. Have you ever been in love, have had such an experience? Can you prove it "scientifically"? And what about Xty? Can you prove your faith "scientifically"? how about "happiness" etc...

[ABAisSCIENCE]

MitoHistoriador,

Thank you for bringing up finer things in life "love." I think Skinner had some kids.

Have you ever read the books, "Behavior Analysis of Child Development" by Bijou & "Meaningful Differences in the everyday experience of young American children" by Hart & Risley & wondered if science has progressed beyond rats & pigeons as certainly science would end up with thousands of researchers who would press on?

"happiness" is mine looking over research in this debate.

[mitohistoriador]

So "love" is something more than a behavior pattern or conditioning? No I haven't read those books but have PUNISHED BY REWARDS: THE TROUBLE WITH GOLD STARS, INCENTIVE PLANS, A'S PRAISE, AND OTHER BRIBES by Alfie Kohn, a reaction to which I'd love to hear from you, for it is written by a would-be behaviorist psychologist who knew and studied under Skinner himself.

[jimaklan]

skinner had a son who killed himself, after which skinner wrote "beyond freedom and dignity"

[mitohistoriador]

Jung did not "prove" a single thing, but everything he said is true; Skinner proved everything, but everything he proved is not true.

How is that for linguistic behavior?

[ABAisSCIENCE]

Are you sure that man isn't like a dog.

Luke 12:5 is equal to Matthew 10:28; thus, showing that the Nazi like a dog will go into the Earth with no eternal life.

Maybe Skinner is right.

[DJpoppa35]

@mitohistoriador hahaha that definitely makes sense

[Darrell861]

@mitohistoriador Jung lied in 1957 when he said, “At that time [1907] I analyzed at least 4000 dreams a year.” --CW3, par. 557 That comes out to at least 11 dreams a day, 7 days a week for 730 consecutive days. And every time he was right, even though nobody taught Jung how to interpret dreams. And you say Jung never lied. Huh? Jung was a prolific liar. I have more examples.

[Darrell861]

@mitohistoriador

Wait. was it someone else who said Jung never lied or was it you? If it was someone else, sorry. Sounds like we might both be critical of Jung.

[Homerus]

@Darrell861 I know you're referring to me, I didn't claim Jung never lied, I am however claiming you are pulling alot of facts out of context for your own little grudge purposes

[Darrell861]

@Homerus I have a grudge against a guy who stole a black Univox Les Paul with a custom Bigsby tailpiece from right under my nose. I could give you his name, and his website, but I won't. I do not have a grudge against Jung. Jung never stole a guitar from me. As a matter of fact, I never even met Jung. I am, however, critical of everything Jung ever wrote. Literary criticism and having a grudge are two different things.

[isolateslowfaults]

@Darrell861 If you read Jung's works, he is quite humble about the 'truth' of his hypotheses. However, his archetypes, the Shadow and the Sygyzy etc. are empirical psychological facts. Situating the ego as a limited circle inside a nearly-unlimited circle of unconsciousness that stretches from the subhuman to the suprahuman is probably the greatest advancement psychology ever made. His theories cogently explain everything from gnosticism to alchemy, the whole gamut of human dreams and myth.

[Darrell861]

@isolateslowfaults On p. 107 of The Undiscovered Self Jung equates the Shadow with original sin, which is an invention of St. Paul and St. Augustine. If one is not a Christian, then original sin does not exist. By the same token, if one is not a Jungian, then the Shadow does not exist.

[isolateslowfaults]

@Darrell861 Original Sin is a manifestation of the Shadow. One need not believe in Christianity or in Jung to recognize that "the very things I hate, that I do." The problem of evil is self-evident on every news channel, it's only a question of how you explain it. Similarly, people do things which they don't understand, this is an empirical fact. It only remains to explain why. Shadow and Original Sin are nebulous concepts referring to things which are in part ungraspable. What system is better?

[Darrell861]

@isolateslowfaults It's one thing to say that some people have done evil things. It's quite another to say that all people are born with the capacity for evil. Jung says all people are born with a shadow. He then defines it as split-off aspects of one's psyche which can be integrated through individuation. In other words, there is a cure for the shadow. Yes, the concept is nebulous. So nebulous, in fact, as to be meaningless. It has no practical application.

[isolateslowfaults]

@Darrell861 Question: as an "anti-Jungian" whose theories would you espouse as being more strictly correct? Freud, Adler, Lacan, Lorenz, even *gag* Skinner? Perhaps as you mentioned literary criticism you have some affinity to Lacan and Ricoeur. I am quite interested; I have never actually met an 'anti-Jungian' before. Are you against him solely on the ground of dream interpretation? How do you feel about the collective unconscious?

[djsvideodiarys]

@mitohistoriador Im very sorry but i am only getting into this guy. who is skinner?, if you don't mind me asking

[thisisdijon]

@djsvideodiarys bf skinner

[lyntonio]

@mitohistoriador how are you defining truth???

[TheLovesoul1]

@lyntonio THERE IS NO ABSOLUTE TRUTH IN THE SENSE OF THE WORD TRUTH IS SUBJECTIVE

[TheLovesoul1]

@lyntonio THERE IS NO ABSOLUTE TRUTH IN THE SENSE OF THE WORD TRUTH IS SUBJECTIVE FOR EXAMPLE YOUR TRUTH MAY NOT BE MY TRUTH

[TheJamezMan]

@TheLovesoul1

Wrong. 

[Justinfinity]

@mitohistoriador the truth just exists - is the only thing that exists - and doesn't need to be proven, only lies need to be proven.

[lloplop]

@mitohistoriador who decides what us true? what is true?

[eppurse]

@lloplop What is true???? What is sweet? What is sour?

Some things are true on the outside, false on the inside...I find precious the things false on the outside but true on the inside (myth)

[lloplop]

@eppurse I agree

[ncawadias]

@mitohistoriador Acrobatic, but unsound.

[ABAisSCIENCE]

Sabina Spielrein corresponded & influenced Jung & Freud in their development of psychoanalytic theory (Carotenuto, 1980). Piaget was personally analyzed by Sabina Spielrein in the 1920s. Sabina Spielrein had a relationship with Jung & Piaget (with Jung while his patient). She was 2nd woman to be admitted to Wednesday Psychological Society, in November 1911 (Freud, 1910-1911/1979; Spielrein, 1912). Through Russian Psychoanalytic Society gave several lectures attended by Vygotsky in 1923.

[ABAisSCIENCE]

It really is too bad that Jung didn't listen to the professor & follow him to study science.

Freud & Jung are two people who tried to explain things that society had not been conditioned to have procedures to bring light to the situation. Or to put differently creativity was not fostering scientific procedures relative to psychology.

By the time B.F. Skinner came into the field the environment was fostering scientific procedures & by B.F. Skinner truth was revealed to us.

ABAisSCIENCE

[chickenjojo]

wow, the axe you have the grind is large, isn't it? that's really too bad, you seem like such a smart person.

[mitohistoriador]

Sounds like you are still in the 19th century with that utopian faith in science--and Skinner, a man we can thank for bringing back a psychology of rats and pigeons, a psychology without soul. Thank God Jung was way beyond his time--and ours.

[keytoothed]

Are you going to be trollishly cryptic, are do you truly know anything about the Jungian theory of individuation?

[colombian18]

This guy was strong.

[Dimenchemist]

I'm currently reading Jung's work and trying to understand it, i think he sometimes comes across as knowing something important that noone else does...

[chickenjojo]

To paraphrase the old boy: "The first half of life is spent in division, and the second half on integration." I think Jung found the second half early.

What you will know in twenty years will make what you know now pitiful.

[keytoothed]

No, because the second half is just remembering who you truly were at the beginning.

[chickenjojo]

Hmm...the very fact you say "just" shows your hand.

[arzlan9]

dayam jung was a badass then

[llcoolj111]

Are you kidding me?

[BAAT4103]

, as with Jung he did have many comparable ideas with Freud, however he developed his own theories, although some of them were not based on emperical evidence, but then again neither was Freud's

[BAAT4103]

I don't think Jung plagerized at all, I think he initially viewed Freud as an interesting individual whom he could relate to a great deal. As he said himself he was basically ignorant when it can to the Psyche. However, as a scientist, you do research based on other theorist an you eventually develop your on perception on any situation

[omunhvilag]

Reading comments and reflecting on these wonderful interviews (all live Jung interviews) as well as documentaries I have, such as the one on F. L. Wright, the thought comes to me: one great idea is not enough. People expect "great men." Therefore, the person becomes eventually pictured as a chalatan. Con person. The person at the core has a great idea but always naturally likes to speculate. But the speculation becomes mistaken as great ideas. The human for the immortal. (Ditto Freud.)

[Aleister77newaccount]

sounds like old jungy was a plagarist.

[TheObnubilators]

it seems like this guy is trying to antagonize jung with his qustions.

[fatmoogas]

Youtube is becoming a great repository of human knowledge--in addition to being a garbage can of ephemera.

[papalgoose]

it's alright, over ripe fruit falls fastest and closest to the tree.

[Joaostryge]

thanks for these video :)

[Cleiton1981]

really great !!!!

[frillington]

This is great. I've been waiting to see this for years, thanks.

[elianasita]

me too