Master Pool & Billiard Instruction Academy Analysis

[aardvaark069]

All is dependnt on cuetip distance from the cueball while in the set position. For precision it should be very close indeed. It means that there need not be any elbow drop 'cuz if you do you'll make contact higher than you had intended. Plus any excess motion means more things can go wrong.

[forestkelley]

Many pros drop the elbow after their stroke reaches the 90 degree down position to keep the cue level. I think a pure pendulum is a great way to teach a beginner, but once they become better players, there are many instances where a straight delivery of the cue is most important. A pure pendulum stroke has the advantage of keeping the cue straight, but it has the disadvantage of allowing the cue to rock up and down and up as you stroke.

[theshredator]

This might be a good way to start beginners to minimize movement, but most pros drop their elbow. Just randomly pick a pro player and search it. If they aren't dropping their elbow, their opponent probably is. It lets the cue remain level while following through allowing for more follow through. I'm not saying it's bad to learn this elbow pendulum stroke. It's good to know all types of strokes for different shots. But I doubt it's a fluke that most pros drop their elbow.

[BilliardInstruction]

@theshredator 1. Take a look at today's professional Snooker players (highly-televised/sponsored) most which are professionally trained. (elbow very stable) 2. Take a look at professional golfers before the 80's and you will see motions all over the place, most with no training, (low-televised/sponsored) 3. Now, look at today's professional golfers, almost all go through extensive professional training (highly televised/sponsored). 4. American "pool" today is still like #2.

[coachlien]

Can you explain why does many top players such as Efren Reyes, Earl Strickland...they do drop their elbw naturally when they finish their stroke?

[BilliardInstruction]

@coachlien Probably if they started playing with their feet, they'd be dropping there knees. Jim Furyk is a top golfer with a loop in his swing. Doesn't make it wrong, however no golf school in the world teaches it. Stabilizing the elbow takes knowledge and practice within that technique to develop muscle memory. Efren and Earl are top players, Yes and the Wright brothers were top pilots.

[MrLawliet1992]

Dude put some trousers on. good tips though

[aardvaark069]

Hey...nice legs. But seriously. If you watch carefully on the final stroke when he gets to perpendicular he releases the cue and it slides forward through the ball without the help of the rear hand. Pretty cool but probably hard to learn to trust . Probably well worth the effort to learn this effort free release.

[BilliardInstruction]

This is called the forward "slip cue". The cue has momentum at impact and needs re-acceleration to apply the complete rotational KE energy to the cue ball. Most players tighten up at impact, slowing the cue down through the sweet spot. Having the perfect grip pressure allows the cue to continue forward through the hand, and apply the total energy. Knowledge is Power

[joeygonzo]

@BilliardInstruction

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[BilliardInstruction]

$250 Versace shorts from Milan Italy. Showing the perpendicular extended position of the parallel stance which connects to the perfect stroke. See!

[Nostix88]

i dont agree with these types of Instructional vids. yeah its Ok sayin that this is the "correct" way to play but many ppl have there own ways and styles of playing

[BilliardInstruction]

That is OK! However here at the Academy of the Cueing Arts, hundreds of those people every year are attending classes to figure out which style they should use and "WHY".

[pocketpride]

I agree with MrCue here below. Off course the elbow needs to drop but the question is how far. Even snooker players withe extreme good quality strokes do drop their elbow a bit.

The question is how much should it drop. Needless to say you shouldn't exaggerate the drop but a little bit is indispensable. How else would you have a nice follow through during your stroke??

The maker of this video should do more analysis of strokes of pro snooker and pool players

[BilliardInstruction]

Pocketpride - More Analysis?? Hmmm! Whatever! Anyway, how is it that I have not dropped my elbow a smidgen in 9+ years and stroke perfectly according to catapult pendulum science and kinesiology?

Please explain in scientific terms why you feel the elbow needs to drop, even a little? Video would be great. I'll look for it.

Good Luck!

[MrCueSport]

Tim:

Question: Should the elbow drop at ALL during the stroke?

The answer is obviously YES.

The elbow should drop and needs to drop in the stroke. Here's why:

1) The elbow needs to drop to keep the cue on a horizontal plane throughout, if the elbow is 'frozen' then it is impossible for the cue to be kept on a single plane and the butt will rise as you draw the cue back on the backswing. The elbow will then be a hinge and the cueing hand will be in the motion of drawing a semi-circle.

[colomblanco]

One... Mr Cue Sport has no clue what he's talking about. Two... What the hell is this guy wearing, he looks like a damn cheerleader.

[corywilliamson77]

Evidently you don't know too much about a true pro stroke. Look at videos of pro players, especially of Allison Fisher and you will see the elbow stays put as the stick follows through. She actually hits her right breast at the end of the stroke and the cue stick tip touches the playing felt.

[BilliardInstruction]

Thanks Cory,

EXACTLY! Allison's stroke is about as close to perfect in all Pro players, Men and Women. The cue stick tip touches the table bed at the end of the stroke because the grip (back of the cue) is up, which means the front (tip) needs to be down.

[TreuloseTomate]

Allison does drop her elbow a little on backswing and followthrough - just like any snooker player. Only pool players seem to be obsessed with the pendulum.

[JDOMANOG]

very helpful to a beginning player

[69Karen9]

WOW! You are so right! The knowledge you show here is absolutely amazing. Crystal clear and makes perfect sense. Love the black and white room. Great choice of wardrobe and I SEE the reasoning behind it. Thank you very much! You are Awesome!

[golfprousa]

It is very obvious that you clearly know and are passionate about what you are teaching. Fantastic analysis! Golf schools could sure use your teaching expertise explaining golf this way. Your talent is a gift!

[MrCueSport]

Great Video, Well Done!

[rjt808]

Any good drill to ensure the elbow doesn't drop? Thanks in advance

[BilliardInstruction]

PREMIUM KNOWLEDGE IS POWER! When your brain understands kinesiology of the physical mechanics in the stroke, it will send the correct signal to the specific muscle groups in perfect harmony.

[rejekt14]

This is a great video.

[rejekt14]

This video is great for correcting problems regarding the physical part of the game. I had to pay good money to get this lesson when I should have just came on YouTube. Anyway, it's another pearl from the A.O.

Willie Rubin