Oh my god!!! how can you, young turks, believe that no criminal charges could be brought against that fucking Shit-Arse MOther who physically harmed her child in those ways!!!!???? I am fucked off with you for the first time EVER SINCE I HAVE STARTED WATCHING THIS, since a year ago
I am very disappointed in USA..I always thought this kind of corruption, fraud, doesnt happen over there...IPlease, do smth with that Wall Street criminals....
Argument for allowing psychologically-torturing children, presented by TYT: "It would be inconvenient, for the authorities and for parents, to have to deal with lots of child torture cases"
Same basic argument was used to defend wife-beating in the early to mid 20th century.
Bootcamp parenting is WRONG!
GOOD NEWS for those who believe in children's rights!
The mother in question has been found GUILTY and could face up to a year in prison and a ten thousand dollar fine.
These two are unbelievable!!! Even though he was not physically harmed he is mentally. You can tell she had no love towards that child. He was afraid of her and he lied!!! Stupid people should shut up!!!!
these two idiotd are unbelievable. lets condone torture. Its not alright to spray down prisoners with cold water but its ok to do it to our kids. someone should pull this show...
TYT's argument for allowing psychologically-torturing children: "It would be inconvenient, for the authorities and parents, to have to deal with lots of child torture cases"
Same basic argument was used to defend wife-beating in the early-mid 20th century.
I'll bet the TYTs would be against a man doing those things to his wife (hot sauce, etc). Creepy to think that MOST of TYT believes children should have less protection than adults...
Imagine being overpowered as an adult by someone who forces you to eat hot sauce, hold it in your mouth, then forces you into a cold shower. Now imagine that this is a person that you are depending on for love and trust. As an adult this would be traumatic. This child will be scarred by this and the best you can do is state "we can't tell people how to punish their kids." we can, we will.
Very well-stated. An EXCELLENT thought experiment.
That sort of demented psychological torture-punishment is not permitted for use against our worst criminals (multiple sex offenders/mass murderers, etc.) in prison - because it's a violation of human rights. But it's okay if the victim of such an assault is a virtually defenseless child - with no legal representation and no judge nor jury.
Boot camp parenting ought to be illegal. Children deserve to share basic human rights.
@Canaderek that's a good point. I would be angry if I heard prisoners were treated that way. I'm not advocating sending someone to jail for hitting their child. Creating healthy happy, well adjusted humans seems to be a common goal. Is seems obvious that certain behavior isn't conducive to those goals,
Here's where Jayar and the rest part ways: the issue of legality and evidence. We know, when a child is being physically abused, that they are being hurt in some way. When a child is emotionally abused there is no definitive evidence of hurt regarding the child. I 100% agree with Jayar that mental/emotional discipline is much worse that base physical discipline, but the fact is that there's no way to regulate emotional abuse.
Actually, you have a brilliant point. I don't eat super hot food often, but I recently had some salsa that destroyed my mouth, so I think that's a great point. Yeah, I would support it if they could provide some sort of physical evidence that the child had been harmed by the hot sauce. Hell, if it was hot enough she could destroy the kids tastebuds, and I'm sure that's just the tip of the iceberg.
@bebopbountyhead thanks ! yah some hot sauce is extremely too hot for some adults who are veteran hot sauce
users , if i was on the jury, i definitely would not split hairs on that point , i would have to insist severe and swift punishment within the law ( on her actions against the child )
The days of demonising marijuana has to come to an end. The state I live in, it's literally legal, as long as you have your Medical Marijuana card- you're good to go. There's dispensaries everywhere and these places help contribute to our economy. Plus the uses for hemp alone, you can make paper, fiber to make clothing, soaps etc;. Also the medical uses for people with cancer or anxiety disorders, eating disorders. It's a plant of numerous uses. Let's utilise hemp not demonise!
I've heard Cenk speak against water-boarding. He believes (as I do) that water-boarding is torture
But it doesn't leave a visible mark
I wonder how the TYT folks feel about water-boarding as a parental tool? Or keeping a child in a locked, empty, dark room for 16 hours every day for a month - as a punishment. Wouldn't leave a bruise, and Cenk said (basically) "What? Are you gonna have authorities check the temperature of the water?" Can that same sort of argument defend the dark room torture?
Argument for allowing psychologically-torturing children, presented by TYT: "It would be inconvenient, for the authorities and for parents, to have to deal with lots of child torture cases"
Same basic argument was used to defend wife-beating in the early-mid 20th century.
I'll bet the TYTs would be against a man doing those things to his wife (hot sauce, etc). Creepy to think that MOST of TYT believes children should have less protection than adults...
What that woman did is so wrong. Imagine your boss did exactly the same thing? You'd sew for assault. But because this person isn't 18 his parents can do what ever the fuck they like, because they own him or some shit.
@whadjison are u saying that Jayar will perhaps use torture tactics like making the kid drink red hot sauce and putting the child in the shower while turning on constant cold water ?
the child has no way of defending itself! i worked with kids and i got two of my own and something like that is just torcher in my mind! if it was an adult, i'd probable think differently but remember, it is a child! i remember people getting pisst about, people putting rags over other peoples faces and then pouring water over it, .. that, they call torcher but this,.... ???? maybe i'm overreacting but i'd still love to kick that bitch's ass!!
@ramblingliberal i agree , all WAR and hatred of human beings who are different come from the arrogance ,greed, and arrogance religious extremism from all groups, i don't want anything to do with religious extremity , I HAVE RAISE
MY CHILDREN TO LOVE HUMANITY AND EXCEPT OTHERS FOR WHO THEY ARE UNCONDITIONALLY
If corporations are people then they should be tried in a court with a jury of their peers, right? I would love to see a jury of a company's competition who have a vested interest in them failing.
great idea lets every one stop paying taxes, vat and ignore the goverment. they would end up askin all those millionares for more money and turn on eachother.
Holy fuck you guys. Psychological torture is not something to interfere with; so long as there's no physical abuse it's all ok? So . . angry . . can't . . form . . thoughts. . Can you imagine making that distinction for prisoners and the like? Why does having a child give a person license to abuse another human being, if that's just their 'parenting style'? 100% with Jayar, can not BELIEVE it was 3:1.
Here's the deal, just because it doesn't leave PHYSICAL marks doesn't make it not abuse. It's mental abuse. Jayar is totally right about this. It's a planned out torture method. He's getting his mouth filled with hot sauce, which he clearly can't handle the intensity of, and forced into an ice cold shower. the combination of both sensations must be a total mindfuck. Clearly very unpleasant for the child.
If they did this to a prisoner in Guantanamo, people would be outraged.
I cannot believe Cenk and Ana. So you're saying if Cenk in passionate outrage throws a pencil, he should be made to drink hotsauce and take cold showers by the LAPD? No, because Cenk is not a child and deserves more protection rights. Only parents can deliver torture to an indefensible target, not the system. You get 'em Cenk and Ana!
I have to disagree with the "board" on this one: Psychological abuse is FAR worse than the physical abuse in the long run. Physical abuse is at its worst when it goes so far that it BECOMES psychological abuse, in other words when you become scared of, say, your mother - the ONE PERSON in the world who is supposed to be a safe haven from the threats of your surroundings.
Yep. Why don't Cenk and Ana know this already? Well, they probably do. They are the WWE of news/political talk shows--entertainment only--not as extreme as other shows but entertainment nonetheless.
Back in the '80s during the savings and loan crisis people like simonyi/haller and blankfein and the rest of the board of directors at Goldman Sachs would have been arrested and thrown in jail. Not anymore... I promise, Obama will be working for these guys after his single term. This is what America is: Corrupt from the inside out. Yet people keep signing up for the military, money ahead of their own lives. HOW CAN THEY BE SO STUPID??? This is a serious question and I'd like an answer.
You are absolutely right. But I also think religion plays a heavy role in this too. It seems the love of money has been heavily incorporated into American Christianity and Judaism. For example, why is the board of directors of the big Wall Street corporations so heavily stacked with Jews? You may think this is racist, but Judaism is a religion, not a race. And if we don't understand the problem at the source, how can we ever possibly solve it?
@jonhdoehe1 True, but religion is PER DEFINITION for stupid/ignorant people, as its based on nothing, and the facts that contradict their fairy-tales, they just ignore.
And yes I know some parts are heavily controlled by certain groups, it wrong. In a democratic country this should never be the case.
And you say they dont understand the problem, but i think they do understand the problem. But the problem is making them too much fucking money to fight it. So the problem keeps growing. Its sad
It is sad. What can be done? Nothing. War and violence will inevitably be tried but it will do nothing to solve the problem. In fact, war and conflict seems to make the religions and the monetary system happiest of all.
@jonhdoehe1 No, war and violence is not the solution at all!
I dont live over there so I dont know what can be done. But when someone like Warren Buffett at least does something. Even then you people are like, oh he is only trying be impove his image and stuff. NO FUCK YOU, he at least opens his mouth, and people are talking. Jump on the train and make them hear. No war or violence, just education and debate.
Education and debate does not work with religion as you pointed out. Once a child has been taught religion they are pretty much locked in. Warren Buffet is like Tony Soprano: He'll let you know he's a no good gangster/bankster and how the system works but he has no intention of changing his evil ways and believe me, all things being equal, if Martha Stewart did time for her minor infraction then Buffet's whole family should be put to death. But it ain't gonna happen.
Wow, you got mad love for the old Buffster. LOL! Kinda like the love a Christian has for Jesus. You really should do some research on your idol. You will uncover the amount of market manipulation he's been involved in. He owns a sizeable chunk of control over Moody's, a rating agency, which rated thousands of fraudulent loans triple A for almost a decade which were downgraded to junk practically overnight. He has benefited massively of of this current financial crisis.
Did you know that at the height of the 2008 crisis, Warren Buffet overtook Bill Gates as the richest man in the world? His tentacles permeate the financial markets and the government agencies mandated to regulate these very markets. He is not about fair and honest capitalism and anyone who believes he is are sheep.
There is an insane amount of Christians in America that want nothing to do with knowledge or enrichment. The religious right continues the battle to remove Darwin's theory of evolution from science classes. The only people who had an intelligent reason to vote for Bush was the wealthiest 1 percent of the population yet somehow he was elected. The ultra-rich control America and they are not about to enrich their slaves.
@jonhdoehe1 I am very aware of that. I might live in Europe, but I try to stay up to date on whats happening overseas, that's why I watch TYT.
America is bought by the rich, BUT that doesnt mean you cant do anything about it. You keep giving excuses. But excuses wont help you now, you need to act.
Educate the world and make Christianity and Jesus nothing more then mythology. That is my 'mission'.
And yes I know you cant do that alone, but if you dont try, nobody will ever succeed in anything
Ana and Cenk are both morally bankrupt when it comes to the child abuse issue - just because you turned out alright ( debatable ) doesn't mean that you're free and clear. Physical abuse, the marks fade away; when it's psychological abuse those marks are scars for life. Jayar is the best dad on the planet for seeing that and he isn't alone. My mom never laid a hand as/or/verbal punishment and I adore her for that. She is an intelligent evolved parent - and so is Jayer.
I was just thinking, what if a husband did to his wife what that lady did to her son? Could yall really tell a woman to stay with a man after he did something like that. Like he comes in and she didn't have dinner ready or something like that, He starts yelling and pours water on her and makes her eat hot sauce.
The mom who burns her kid's tongue with hot-sauce seems mentally deficient. BAD PARENTING. i am totally with Jayar on that one "creative ways to torture someone" (and maybe get away with it), surprised that Cenk and Ana were not more outraged. the situation in NY is sad too, but pot-heads can be as negligent as anyone else. Sad for the ones who are really good parents. But hopefully the system just wants to insure that the kids are better living with their families than in State custody.
@TerminalRhinoVirus Totally agree, Jayar is dead right. If I cut my kid with a knife (and let's say I can do it without any psychological consequences for the sake of argument) he's gonna get a scar that'll barely affect his life. If I give my kid an anxiety disorder by dousing him with freezing water whenever he makes me mad, I'd say that's going to have much more of a lasting impact.
There's a reason why the law has started to recognise psychiatric harm in recent decades.
@TerminalRhinoVirus Yup. Once again Jayar is right. We had a lot of trouble with our second daughter, still do to a small extent, and we found ourselves spiraling towards anger and potential violence. What did we do? We read more, researched more, and found more ways to discipline with love and respect. And it worked!
I can guarantee this woman's kid isn't any harder than our little one was, at least before she started torturing him that is.
I can see that religion is fading, but I never had to deal with this - I don't have a religious belief. I mean, I genuinely do not believe anything. I'm not Atheist, Christian, Judist, etc.
The US has got to be one of the most background assed countries in the developed world when it comes to so many things - I am referring in particular to the ignorance and stupidity that seems to come up when marijuana is mentioned - the state successfully destroys families and disrupts the lives of children when they do these things. I am certain that most pot users are very discrete and responsible when using - while fucking twits can drink until they're blue - alcohol is far worse by far.
DOUBLE POSSSST!!!!!. 150 years of the greatest wealth creation system in history and 98 years of corruption. the structure and means are there why enter into the physical in order to create a new one... one thing in common with these clowns is they are all entering into the degenerative state of life. keep pressure on them for the next 2 presidential terms and they will start to fray, and the 2nd one they will crack. then is the time to waylay, dont blow your load before u fuck her right.
While I agree that there was nothing criminal about that mother's disciplinary methods, there's at least a twenty-page list she should've tried first. Deprivation of a desired luxury, for example; unplug the video games and lock them up, things like that until he acknowledges his error and apologizes. Kids are more likely to correct themselves when theres a reward to be had for doing so. Feed them hot sauce and they'll just grow up hating u and stick ur ass in a nursing home and abandon u later.
I like you YoungTurk... But I think that you make us Christians look bad. The things you do are very christian like; you very down to earth and very real about you work. I think that you sell us christian too short and shouldn't look at us in such a monolithic way because not all of us is as bad as you sometime portray us. I'm a big fan you yours and I enjoy the work that you do, but it isn't fair to put us in that kind of light. Try and understand that preachers have to be passionate sometimes.
The little kid makes me think of that weirdo who ran the gay conversion 'cuddle camp' when he goes nuts with the pillows, Mom, Mom! Mom! MOM! MOM! WHY DID YOU DO THAT TO ME!?
Concerning the corruption stories, WTF how do we elect such putrid outrageous trash?? How do we prosecute them (along with the Bush entire entourage) Man, we r suckers!!
Totally agree with Jayar it IS a form of unusual punishment for a child that to me has definite signs of child abuse, mental abuse like that is sadistic. I mean come on he is a CHILD!
they would have to go through my fucking dead body to get to my kids, but before they do, i will make sure i take most of them with me, and believe me, it wouldnt be that hard.
My dad used to spank me, send me to my room and then explain why i was spanked. My mother notes how nervous i get when i talk about it but my dad was a really good man, and i love him dearly. I see no problem with what he did, I never talked back, ran away, or threw a fit in public again.
I personally sometimes wish parent would actually do something about their kids. I am sick of kids throwing themselves on the ground in a fit and there parent standing there going jeez what am i going to do?
Religion is becoming less and less ...Take Iran for example couple of passionate religious fanatics take over the country and FORCE the coming generation to be somehow religious ..or the catholic church. or the islamic spreading . Thing is religious people like/are forcing there opinions on everybody
Can't believe that they are condoning Child Abuse...too bad they didn't have that done to them when they were children, maybe they would have a little empathy for that child.
@robertn800 I think Cenk and Anna changed their position a little toward the end, but still, your right. A bad call. Everything else today was great stuff. Especially the corruption stories.
I think Jayar hit the key point dead on: It's not even about the pain or harm caused by the punishments--it's how she was engaging the kid. I'd rather be hit and bruised by an angry parent than put through these kind of domination tactics.
Hot sauce? A cold shower? I drank a bottle of hot sauce because i was hungry, not very filling. Its not like its killing him, its minor discomfort. He probably deserved it anyway. Spanking is worse than that, geez. The kid is screaming cause he's a brat. Im gonna go eat a bowl of hot sauce and take my cold shower now.
@ryanmail2004 listen to me you dumb fuck! You think that is abuse mother fucker? I wish that my parents would have done that to me insted of the abuse that I went threw. Do you think it would be better if she took the kid on the bed and beat the shit out of him with a belt till he fucking bled? this mom just has an out of control kid and she is trying everything to change that. I would not do the things that she is trying but seriously grow the fuck up!
@MTVVH1sucks listen to me you dumb fuck! You think that is abuse mother fucker? I wish that my parents would have done that to me insted of the abuse that I went threw. Do you think it would be better if she took the kid on the bed and beat the shit out of him with a belt till he fucking bled? this mom just has an out of control kid and she is trying everything to change that. I would not do the things that she is trying but seriously grow the fuck up!
My grandparents hit me with a yardstick, and i'm glad they did. After I got hit with it I never stuck another penny in an outlet, messed with dangerous cleaning chemicals under the sink, or went near the road without an adult.
You guys were way off on the pot and persecution issue... Its more of a economic issue rather than race issue. You have to be able to afford those lawyers regardless of your race in order for them to drop a case so readily. Now the case that there are more minorities that are poor than white is correct but that would be the only weighted bias line to apply in that case. The people at the top who make money off of prisoners target the poor in general with these policies and tactics.
Back in the day, (I'm about as old as Cerk) my mom admitted to cutting me, while holding me at butcher-knife point threatening to kill me and then herself, and kicking me in the balls dozens of times, spitting in my eyes, punching in my face as I slept, etc, etc etc.. and the runaway shelter sent me back to live with her, and some clueless teachers/relatives had thought I needed more spanking/discipline. QI, punishment is not equal to Reinforcement in Classical Conditioning. To better tomorrows
@wateryskipper listen to me you dumb fuck! You think that is abuse mother fucker? I wish that my parents would have done that to me insted of the abuse that I went threw. Do you think it would be better if she took the kid on the bed and beat the shit out of him with a belt till he fucking bled? this mom just has an out of control kid and she is trying everything to change that. I would not do the things that she is trying but seriously grow the fuck up!
@MTVVH1sucks listen to me you dumb fuck! You think that is abuse mother fucker? I wish that my parents would have done that to me insted of the abuse that I went threw. Do you think it would be better if she took the kid on the bed and beat the shit out of him with a belt till he fucking bled? this mom just has an out of control kid and she is trying everything to change that. I would not do the things that she is trying but seriously grow the fuck up!
@wateryskipper listen to me you dumb fuck! You think that is abuse mother fucker? I wish that my parents would have done that to me insted of the abuse that I went threw. Do you think it would be better if she took the kid on the bed and beat the shit out of him with a belt till he fucking bled? this mom just has an out of control kid and she is trying everything to change that. I would not do the things that she is trying but seriously grow the fuck up!
@MTVVH1sucks listen to me you dumb fuck! You think that is abuse mother fucker? I wish that my parents would have done that to me insted of the abuse that I went threw. Do you think it would be better if she took the kid on the bed and beat the shit out of him with a belt till he fucking bled? this mom just has an out of control kid and she is trying everything to change that. I would not do the things that she is trying but seriously grow the fuck up!
@duffbeer360 shut up, do you have any idea of the trauma that child went through with the hot sauce and cold shower? and these people are suppose to be advocates for justice? You shut the fuck up!!!!!
Cenk giving props to Anonymous, gotta love it. More people should be outraged over what they uncovered. Government contractors planning to undermine the 1st amendment rights of journalists, that's some scumbag shit.
I support Wikileaks and Anonymous. We have a right to know what our elected government is doing in our names.
Physically disciplining kids isn't bad by default, as long as it's consistent. I got spanked as a kid, I god damn deserved it every time, and no scars were left behind.
Harm is done when you yell and scare the shit out of the kid in the process of doing so, or if you do it inconsistently, sending mixed messages.
If spanking lead to fucked up kids, there wouldn't have been a sane people in history. The idea of frowning upon physical disciplining of kids is a new one after all.
@hcnuup Just because child-abuse doesn't create serial killers, doesn't mean it doesn't massively damage many peoples minds. And just because the world hasn't completely fallen apart while being run by adults who were abused as children, does NOT mean the world is as good as it can be under human leadership---that is obvious to all.
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Is it really so ridiculous to suggest we try to raise our children into well-adjusted adults, who will make the best decisions, without any mental damage?
@Jex134 My point was that physical disciplining doesn't equal to child-abuse and doesn't cause mental harm in the first place, and that mental damage is done with poor parenting skills, like lashing out on the kids for your personal matters, creating uneven boundaries for them or making them fear you by being inconsistent and unstable with your punishments.
Why on Earth do you think Ron Paul doesn't want to give the corporations everything? Look at his vote record. Look at what he's actually been suggesting in the past.
Watch his Google interview. The guy thinks the solution for our pollution problem is to sell all our public lands to the highest bidder. You think the government won't go along with that? Please don't praise this man, he wants the ultimate ownership society and dissolution of our government.
I guess you could fucking waterboard you child then, because through your logic its not abuse, it doesnt leave any marks, or rub dog shit in their face? doesnt hurt the child so its not abuse?
How is that NOT criminal? wtf were these two thinking? they seriously think that physical abuse outweighs psychological abuse as though the former wasn't dependent on the latter. Morons.
Dreadlocks for the win!!! witht he common sense and human decency and all.
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descoteaujcsxnse48y 1 week ago
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ZzIiGg10 3 months ago
Oh my god!!! how can you, young turks, believe that no criminal charges could be brought against that fucking Shit-Arse MOther who physically harmed her child in those ways!!!!???? I am fucked off with you for the first time EVER SINCE I HAVE STARTED WATCHING THIS, since a year ago
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I am very disappointed in USA..I always thought this kind of corruption, fraud, doesnt happen over there...IPlease, do smth with that Wall Street criminals....
iivviiccaa79 6 months ago
Psychological abuse can be more damaging in the long term than physical abuse.
lpcomeau 6 months ago
Its abuse. Simple as that. Ask the kid how he feels. I bet abused! Dumb fucking shits to say its not.
gregbeajon2010 6 months ago
Argument for allowing psychologically-torturing children, presented by TYT: "It would be inconvenient, for the authorities and for parents, to have to deal with lots of child torture cases"
Same basic argument was used to defend wife-beating in the early to mid 20th century.
Bootcamp parenting is WRONG!
GOOD NEWS for those who believe in children's rights!
The mother in question has been found GUILTY and could face up to a year in prison and a ten thousand dollar fine.
HOORAY for JUSTICE!!
Canaderek 6 months ago 2
These two are unbelievable!!! Even though he was not physically harmed he is mentally. You can tell she had no love towards that child. He was afraid of her and he lied!!! Stupid people should shut up!!!!
kayingt 6 months ago
these two idiotd are unbelievable. lets condone torture. Its not alright to spray down prisoners with cold water but its ok to do it to our kids. someone should pull this show...
javawava11 6 months ago
If that bitch was my mother I'd do more than throw pencils. And how much empathy do you think his cop pop has for him? He's in hell.
Leishalynn 6 months ago
no fucking way -__-. hot sause and cold showers? really?
SomethinDwnUrPantss 6 months ago
Worth repeating:
TYT's argument for allowing psychologically-torturing children: "It would be inconvenient, for the authorities and parents, to have to deal with lots of child torture cases"
Same basic argument was used to defend wife-beating in the early-mid 20th century.
I'll bet the TYTs would be against a man doing those things to his wife (hot sauce, etc). Creepy to think that MOST of TYT believes children should have less protection than adults...
Boot camp parenting should be illegal
SugarBearKT 6 months ago
You didn't seem angry, but rightfully upset due to the obvious outrageus stupidity you came across...
Caligula2345 6 months ago
Imagine being overpowered as an adult by someone who forces you to eat hot sauce, hold it in your mouth, then forces you into a cold shower. Now imagine that this is a person that you are depending on for love and trust. As an adult this would be traumatic. This child will be scarred by this and the best you can do is state "we can't tell people how to punish their kids." we can, we will.
mutva 6 months ago
@mutva thanks ! i share your sentiment 100%
starrra1 6 months ago
@mutva
Very well-stated. An EXCELLENT thought experiment.
That sort of demented psychological torture-punishment is not permitted for use against our worst criminals (multiple sex offenders/mass murderers, etc.) in prison - because it's a violation of human rights. But it's okay if the victim of such an assault is a virtually defenseless child - with no legal representation and no judge nor jury.
Boot camp parenting ought to be illegal. Children deserve to share basic human rights.
Canaderek 6 months ago 2
@Canaderek that's a good point. I would be angry if I heard prisoners were treated that way. I'm not advocating sending someone to jail for hitting their child. Creating healthy happy, well adjusted humans seems to be a common goal. Is seems obvious that certain behavior isn't conducive to those goals,
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Stevie68000 6 months ago
Here's where Jayar and the rest part ways: the issue of legality and evidence. We know, when a child is being physically abused, that they are being hurt in some way. When a child is emotionally abused there is no definitive evidence of hurt regarding the child. I 100% agree with Jayar that mental/emotional discipline is much worse that base physical discipline, but the fact is that there's no way to regulate emotional abuse.
bebopbountyhead 6 months ago
@bebopbountyhead what about regulating the physical abuse of this child ? when she force the child to swallow hot sauce against his will
starrra1 6 months ago
Actually, you have a brilliant point. I don't eat super hot food often, but I recently had some salsa that destroyed my mouth, so I think that's a great point. Yeah, I would support it if they could provide some sort of physical evidence that the child had been harmed by the hot sauce. Hell, if it was hot enough she could destroy the kids tastebuds, and I'm sure that's just the tip of the iceberg.
bebopbountyhead 6 months ago
@bebopbountyhead thanks ! yah some hot sauce is extremely too hot for some adults who are veteran hot sauce
users , if i was on the jury, i definitely would not split hairs on that point , i would have to insist severe and swift punishment within the law ( on her actions against the child )
starrra1 6 months ago
Will it be abuse when she holds him up by the ankles and pours hot-sauce up (or down) his ass? Punishment tends to escalate with parents like that...
tstruss912 6 months ago
The days of demonising marijuana has to come to an end. The state I live in, it's literally legal, as long as you have your Medical Marijuana card- you're good to go. There's dispensaries everywhere and these places help contribute to our economy. Plus the uses for hemp alone, you can make paper, fiber to make clothing, soaps etc;. Also the medical uses for people with cancer or anxiety disorders, eating disorders. It's a plant of numerous uses. Let's utilise hemp not demonise!
mrselfdestruct23 6 months ago
I've heard Cenk speak against water-boarding. He believes (as I do) that water-boarding is torture
But it doesn't leave a visible mark
I wonder how the TYT folks feel about water-boarding as a parental tool? Or keeping a child in a locked, empty, dark room for 16 hours every day for a month - as a punishment. Wouldn't leave a bruise, and Cenk said (basically) "What? Are you gonna have authorities check the temperature of the water?" Can that same sort of argument defend the dark room torture?
Canaderek 6 months ago 3
Argument for allowing psychologically-torturing children, presented by TYT: "It would be inconvenient, for the authorities and for parents, to have to deal with lots of child torture cases"
Same basic argument was used to defend wife-beating in the early-mid 20th century.
I'll bet the TYTs would be against a man doing those things to his wife (hot sauce, etc). Creepy to think that MOST of TYT believes children should have less protection than adults...
Boot camp parenting should be illegal.
Canaderek 6 months ago 8
it don't take a war , all it takes is for all americans to stop paying their taxes..
stop feeding the war machine
655Robert 6 months ago
What that woman did is so wrong. Imagine your boss did exactly the same thing? You'd sew for assault. But because this person isn't 18 his parents can do what ever the fuck they like, because they own him or some shit.
sirbestnameever 6 months ago
@sirbestnameever thanks i agree !
starrra1 6 months ago
@whadjison are u saying that Jayar will perhaps use torture tactics like making the kid drink red hot sauce and putting the child in the shower while turning on constant cold water ?
starrra1 6 months ago
in my opinion, that is child abuse!!!
the child has no way of defending itself! i worked with kids and i got two of my own and something like that is just torcher in my mind! if it was an adult, i'd probable think differently but remember, it is a child! i remember people getting pisst about, people putting rags over other peoples faces and then pouring water over it, .. that, they call torcher but this,.... ???? maybe i'm overreacting but i'd still love to kick that bitch's ass!!
Peace
negotiator84 6 months ago 5
@negotiator84 thanks ! as adults it must be a mental impulsive first action to protect all children from insane abusive adults this one
starrra1 6 months ago
very true Ana- our generation is rapidly shedding the oppression of organized religion
ramblingliberal 6 months ago
@ramblingliberal i agree , all WAR and hatred of human beings who are different come from the arrogance ,greed, and arrogance religious extremism from all groups, i don't want anything to do with religious extremity , I HAVE RAISE
MY CHILDREN TO LOVE HUMANITY AND EXCEPT OTHERS FOR WHO THEY ARE UNCONDITIONALLY
thanks :)
starrra1 6 months ago
@ramblingliberal sorry ment to say arrogance , greed and ignorance
starrra1 6 months ago
If corporations are people then they should be tried in a court with a jury of their peers, right? I would love to see a jury of a company's competition who have a vested interest in them failing.
MythOfTheGryphon 6 months ago
Thank goodness for youtube. Do you thing Cenk could say this on MSNBC?
dsgregg 6 months ago
United States is...how should I say..."The Real Gangstaz."
conkpit 6 months ago
great idea lets every one stop paying taxes, vat and ignore the goverment. they would end up askin all those millionares for more money and turn on eachother.
MobeenAftab 6 months ago
Someone should show Cenk that clip of Zandig saying "Jaysus!" that's been made famous from Botchamania.
imlaughing2death 6 months ago
Wasn't there some kid named "MarJoe" that was a preacher when he was 8 or something?
imlaughing2death 6 months ago
Holy fuck you guys. Psychological torture is not something to interfere with; so long as there's no physical abuse it's all ok? So . . angry . . can't . . form . . thoughts. . Can you imagine making that distinction for prisoners and the like? Why does having a child give a person license to abuse another human being, if that's just their 'parenting style'? 100% with Jayar, can not BELIEVE it was 3:1.
abitofneither 6 months ago 3
@abitofneither Agree. That woman needs to learn how to get the upper hand without being a nut.
Tanfeliz 6 months ago
lol anonymous owned hbgary
thisisicejoe 6 months ago
Here's the deal, just because it doesn't leave PHYSICAL marks doesn't make it not abuse. It's mental abuse. Jayar is totally right about this. It's a planned out torture method. He's getting his mouth filled with hot sauce, which he clearly can't handle the intensity of, and forced into an ice cold shower. the combination of both sensations must be a total mindfuck. Clearly very unpleasant for the child.
If they did this to a prisoner in Guantanamo, people would be outraged.
thecatalystpoet 6 months ago
I also agree with Jayar that kind of torture breeds future psychopaths. The mother should go to jail or at least lose the kid.
4514LU 6 months ago
@4514LU I COMPLETELY SHARE YOUR SENTIMENT
THANKS
starrra1 6 months ago
I cannot believe Cenk and Ana. So you're saying if Cenk in passionate outrage throws a pencil, he should be made to drink hotsauce and take cold showers by the LAPD? No, because Cenk is not a child and deserves more protection rights. Only parents can deliver torture to an indefensible target, not the system. You get 'em Cenk and Ana!
Maximiliare 6 months ago
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Stevie68000 6 months ago
CHILD ABUSE plain and simple.
SubwayRatt 6 months ago
I hope the mother go to jail for a very long time,
to me that was clearly mental and physical torture
for her child, if i was on the jury , i would LOCK HER A**
THROW AWAY THE KEY :(
starrra1 6 months ago
I have to disagree with the "board" on this one: Psychological abuse is FAR worse than the physical abuse in the long run. Physical abuse is at its worst when it goes so far that it BECOMES psychological abuse, in other words when you become scared of, say, your mother - the ONE PERSON in the world who is supposed to be a safe haven from the threats of your surroundings.
steffenml 6 months ago
@steffenml
Yep. Why don't Cenk and Ana know this already? Well, they probably do. They are the WWE of news/political talk shows--entertainment only--not as extreme as other shows but entertainment nonetheless.
jonhdoehe1 6 months ago
Back in the '80s during the savings and loan crisis people like simonyi/haller and blankfein and the rest of the board of directors at Goldman Sachs would have been arrested and thrown in jail. Not anymore... I promise, Obama will be working for these guys after his single term. This is what America is: Corrupt from the inside out. Yet people keep signing up for the military, money ahead of their own lives. HOW CAN THEY BE SO STUPID??? This is a serious question and I'd like an answer.
jonhdoehe1 6 months ago
@jonhdoehe1 Why do you think they are fucking up your education? :)
Education is the enemy, stupid people do what they tell them to :)
SIC66SIC66 6 months ago
@SIC66SIC66
You are absolutely right. But I also think religion plays a heavy role in this too. It seems the love of money has been heavily incorporated into American Christianity and Judaism. For example, why is the board of directors of the big Wall Street corporations so heavily stacked with Jews? You may think this is racist, but Judaism is a religion, not a race. And if we don't understand the problem at the source, how can we ever possibly solve it?
jonhdoehe1 6 months ago
@jonhdoehe1 True, but religion is PER DEFINITION for stupid/ignorant people, as its based on nothing, and the facts that contradict their fairy-tales, they just ignore.
And yes I know some parts are heavily controlled by certain groups, it wrong. In a democratic country this should never be the case.
And you say they dont understand the problem, but i think they do understand the problem. But the problem is making them too much fucking money to fight it. So the problem keeps growing. Its sad
SIC66SIC66 6 months ago
@SIC66SIC66
It is sad. What can be done? Nothing. War and violence will inevitably be tried but it will do nothing to solve the problem. In fact, war and conflict seems to make the religions and the monetary system happiest of all.
jonhdoehe1 6 months ago
@jonhdoehe1 No, war and violence is not the solution at all!
I dont live over there so I dont know what can be done. But when someone like Warren Buffett at least does something. Even then you people are like, oh he is only trying be impove his image and stuff. NO FUCK YOU, he at least opens his mouth, and people are talking. Jump on the train and make them hear. No war or violence, just education and debate.
You people all seem to give up before you tried.
SIC66SIC66 6 months ago
@SIC66SIC66
Education and debate does not work with religion as you pointed out. Once a child has been taught religion they are pretty much locked in. Warren Buffet is like Tony Soprano: He'll let you know he's a no good gangster/bankster and how the system works but he has no intention of changing his evil ways and believe me, all things being equal, if Martha Stewart did time for her minor infraction then Buffet's whole family should be put to death. But it ain't gonna happen.
jonhdoehe1 6 months ago
@jonhdoehe1 WTF, from what planet do you come? Education DOES work, and I said that, read or shit up.
And you can be negative all you like about warren Buffett, but you do shit, he at least open his mouth about it.
I hate your American attitude of, oh fuck it, it will never change.
NOT IT WILL NOT CHANGE IF YOU DONT DO ANYTHING.
You are all little Obama's, you yell change, but dont do anything to make the change.
And you fuck up the rest of the world of you continue like this.
SIC66SIC66 6 months ago
@SIC66SIC66
Wow, you got mad love for the old Buffster. LOL! Kinda like the love a Christian has for Jesus. You really should do some research on your idol. You will uncover the amount of market manipulation he's been involved in. He owns a sizeable chunk of control over Moody's, a rating agency, which rated thousands of fraudulent loans triple A for almost a decade which were downgraded to junk practically overnight. He has benefited massively of of this current financial crisis.
jonhdoehe1 6 months ago
@SIC66SIC66
Did you know that at the height of the 2008 crisis, Warren Buffet overtook Bill Gates as the richest man in the world? His tentacles permeate the financial markets and the government agencies mandated to regulate these very markets. He is not about fair and honest capitalism and anyone who believes he is are sheep.
jonhdoehe1 6 months ago
@jonhdoehe1 Did you know if you give people the opportunity to enrich themselves, they will do it? Or is that something new?
But whatever man, do nothing, sit on your fat ass and whine about it like you all do.
SIC66SIC66 6 months ago
@SIC66SIC66
There is an insane amount of Christians in America that want nothing to do with knowledge or enrichment. The religious right continues the battle to remove Darwin's theory of evolution from science classes. The only people who had an intelligent reason to vote for Bush was the wealthiest 1 percent of the population yet somehow he was elected. The ultra-rich control America and they are not about to enrich their slaves.
jonhdoehe1 6 months ago
@jonhdoehe1 I am very aware of that. I might live in Europe, but I try to stay up to date on whats happening overseas, that's why I watch TYT.
America is bought by the rich, BUT that doesnt mean you cant do anything about it. You keep giving excuses. But excuses wont help you now, you need to act.
Educate the world and make Christianity and Jesus nothing more then mythology. That is my 'mission'.
And yes I know you cant do that alone, but if you dont try, nobody will ever succeed in anything
SIC66SIC66 6 months ago
3 to 1 So Far - I'm with JayR!! That makes it 3 to 2...
mistymonee 6 months ago
Ana and Cenk are both morally bankrupt when it comes to the child abuse issue - just because you turned out alright ( debatable ) doesn't mean that you're free and clear. Physical abuse, the marks fade away; when it's psychological abuse those marks are scars for life. Jayar is the best dad on the planet for seeing that and he isn't alone. My mom never laid a hand as/or/verbal punishment and I adore her for that. She is an intelligent evolved parent - and so is Jayer.
ZephonTLucifer 6 months ago
@ZephonTLucifer Oh come on my father used to beat me until my legs were bleeding and I turned out to be a perfectly functional sociopath :D
I was a bit surprised too when Cenk defending the psychological torture of a foster child.
Laughingblades 6 months ago
The American people would never have a French Revolution. They are too lazy and/or stupid.
Serahpin 6 months ago
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@Serahpin You forgot to add also too fearful and too crazy and too fat !
justcallmeassinine 6 months ago
I was just thinking, what if a husband did to his wife what that lady did to her son? Could yall really tell a woman to stay with a man after he did something like that. Like he comes in and she didn't have dinner ready or something like that, He starts yelling and pours water on her and makes her eat hot sauce.
BSGA22 6 months ago
the kid made more sense than these preachers...
humper9 6 months ago
On issue after issue, Jayar speaks for me!
juanp2k3 6 months ago
The mom who burns her kid's tongue with hot-sauce seems mentally deficient. BAD PARENTING. i am totally with Jayar on that one "creative ways to torture someone" (and maybe get away with it), surprised that Cenk and Ana were not more outraged. the situation in NY is sad too, but pot-heads can be as negligent as anyone else. Sad for the ones who are really good parents. But hopefully the system just wants to insure that the kids are better living with their families than in State custody.
NormanCameron4U 6 months ago
I thought Cenk Uygur said his 1st time smoking gonja was in Amsterdam a lil' while back, he was drinking while getting stoned.
asdfxcxv 6 months ago
I am totally with Jayar on the adopted mother torture issue.
On a harsher note, she should have never been able to adopt a child if she has to go to Dr. Phil to learn how to discipline a child.
TerminalRhinoVirus 6 months ago 48
@TerminalRhinoVirus THANKS ! I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU
starrra1 6 months ago
I AM MAD AS HELL ! I AGREE WITH Jayar 100% :(
starrra1 6 months ago
@TerminalRhinoVirus Totally agree, Jayar is dead right. If I cut my kid with a knife (and let's say I can do it without any psychological consequences for the sake of argument) he's gonna get a scar that'll barely affect his life. If I give my kid an anxiety disorder by dousing him with freezing water whenever he makes me mad, I'd say that's going to have much more of a lasting impact.
There's a reason why the law has started to recognise psychiatric harm in recent decades.
MrCommentingisfun 6 months ago 2
@MrCommentingisfun THANK YOU WELL SAID !
WE MUST PROTECT THE CHILDREN ! :(
starrra1 6 months ago
@TerminalRhinoVirus Yup. Once again Jayar is right. We had a lot of trouble with our second daughter, still do to a small extent, and we found ourselves spiraling towards anger and potential violence. What did we do? We read more, researched more, and found more ways to discipline with love and respect. And it worked!
I can guarantee this woman's kid isn't any harder than our little one was, at least before she started torturing him that is.
aaronpolitical 6 months ago
@TerminalRhinoVirus And per Ana's last suggestion, I GUARANTEE that kid has been physically abused before.
aaronpolitical 6 months ago
Wow, a rare miscarriage of justice on the TYT court. No, what that mother was doing was NOT OK.
FarUnlitUnknown 6 months ago
Wow this is so messed up about the little girl who got taken away for a year.
Stunrickrollownage 6 months ago
I can see that religion is fading, but I never had to deal with this - I don't have a religious belief. I mean, I genuinely do not believe anything. I'm not Atheist, Christian, Judist, etc.
gamegod9000 6 months ago
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@gamegod9000 JUDIST ???? LOLOLOLOL
justcallmeassinine 6 months ago
The US has got to be one of the most background assed countries in the developed world when it comes to so many things - I am referring in particular to the ignorance and stupidity that seems to come up when marijuana is mentioned - the state successfully destroys families and disrupts the lives of children when they do these things. I am certain that most pot users are very discrete and responsible when using - while fucking twits can drink until they're blue - alcohol is far worse by far.
rictusgate 6 months ago
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RictiusVarus 6 months ago
DOUBLE POSSSST!!!!!. 150 years of the greatest wealth creation system in history and 98 years of corruption. the structure and means are there why enter into the physical in order to create a new one... one thing in common with these clowns is they are all entering into the degenerative state of life. keep pressure on them for the next 2 presidential terms and they will start to fray, and the 2nd one they will crack. then is the time to waylay, dont blow your load before u fuck her right.
billhobin07 6 months ago
capital formation applies to the federal reserve, and WAAAHLAA they legalize derivatives how much later?
billhobin07 6 months ago
While I agree that there was nothing criminal about that mother's disciplinary methods, there's at least a twenty-page list she should've tried first. Deprivation of a desired luxury, for example; unplug the video games and lock them up, things like that until he acknowledges his error and apologizes. Kids are more likely to correct themselves when theres a reward to be had for doing so. Feed them hot sauce and they'll just grow up hating u and stick ur ass in a nursing home and abandon u later.
KachuaOnWoW 6 months ago
I like you YoungTurk... But I think that you make us Christians look bad. The things you do are very christian like; you very down to earth and very real about you work. I think that you sell us christian too short and shouldn't look at us in such a monolithic way because not all of us is as bad as you sometime portray us. I'm a big fan you yours and I enjoy the work that you do, but it isn't fair to put us in that kind of light. Try and understand that preachers have to be passionate sometimes.
philiptwood 6 months ago
The little kid makes me think of that weirdo who ran the gay conversion 'cuddle camp' when he goes nuts with the pillows, Mom, Mom! Mom! MOM! MOM! WHY DID YOU DO THAT TO ME!?
It'll be him in 20 years :)
BVargas78 6 months ago
Concerning the corruption stories, WTF how do we elect such putrid outrageous trash?? How do we prosecute them (along with the Bush entire entourage) Man, we r suckers!!
cvilla22 6 months ago
The little baby kinda reminds me of Hitler.
halostar6 6 months ago 25
Nobody better take my kids away! I'd sick my lawyer on them betches!!!!!!!
SelenePalemoon 6 months ago
I'm with Jared on this one, hot sauce hurts, cold showers hurt. That mum needs to take classes on how to discipline a child without taking shortcuts.
abdool1972 6 months ago
Totally agree with Jayar it IS a form of unusual punishment for a child that to me has definite signs of child abuse, mental abuse like that is sadistic. I mean come on he is a CHILD!
cvilla22 6 months ago
This Symonyi-Haller thing is amazing! Fucking unbelievable.
tishaschwanger 6 months ago
they would have to go through my fucking dead body to get to my kids, but before they do, i will make sure i take most of them with me, and believe me, it wouldnt be that hard.
alexdc22 6 months ago
Anyone else notice the kid reminded you of a little Adolf Hitler?
bballadante 6 months ago
These people have no idea what child abuse is. Hot sauce and a cold shower is not abuse, people need to stay the fuck out of other peoples business.
random69ism 6 months ago
@random69ism finally! somebody with some sense!
WH012Vids 6 months ago
That was the most disturbing vid I have ever seen. (in reference to the toddler preacher)
psychokillercrab 6 months ago
My dad used to spank me, send me to my room and then explain why i was spanked. My mother notes how nervous i get when i talk about it but my dad was a really good man, and i love him dearly. I see no problem with what he did, I never talked back, ran away, or threw a fit in public again.
I personally sometimes wish parent would actually do something about their kids. I am sick of kids throwing themselves on the ground in a fit and there parent standing there going jeez what am i going to do?
lilvixenchica 6 months ago
@lilvixenchica lol amen!
WH012Vids 6 months ago
Man i say other than ass-kicking palm slapping.....parents shouldnt do anything ...
Thejadjadjad 6 months ago
fucking guilty what the fuck ..... hot sauce Oo ...cold water ...
Thejadjadjad 6 months ago
Religion is becoming less and less ...Take Iran for example couple of passionate religious fanatics take over the country and FORCE the coming generation to be somehow religious ..or the catholic church. or the islamic spreading . Thing is religious people like/are forcing there opinions on everybody
Thejadjadjad 6 months ago 2
Can't believe that they are condoning Child Abuse...too bad they didn't have that done to them when they were children, maybe they would have a little empathy for that child.
robertn800 6 months ago
@robertn800 I think Cenk and Anna changed their position a little toward the end, but still, your right. A bad call. Everything else today was great stuff. Especially the corruption stories.
BVargas78 6 months ago
I like how Ana restores Cenk's faith in humanity after hes all pissed off about politics
MrOnlinePsychology 6 months ago
get a new subtitle writter
mriets1 6 months ago
Jayar was right.
SSanf 6 months ago
cool show
tmacc 6 months ago
I think Jayar hit the key point dead on: It's not even about the pain or harm caused by the punishments--it's how she was engaging the kid. I'd rather be hit and bruised by an angry parent than put through these kind of domination tactics.
hitjohnyup 6 months ago
GREAT SHOW. The best one in a while , Cenk just keeps getting better.
josemiguel87 6 months ago
dude how can they not want that fucking bitch to lose custody of her ADOPTED child???
there are thousands of couples waiting for a kid they can adopt but this crazy whore gets to torture her kid???
Rodder95 6 months ago
great show! tyt fucking rules! So glad that cenk had his little stint with mainstream and saw the devil face to face and is now back with full force.
gracienote 6 months ago
Hot sauce? A cold shower? I drank a bottle of hot sauce because i was hungry, not very filling. Its not like its killing him, its minor discomfort. He probably deserved it anyway. Spanking is worse than that, geez. The kid is screaming cause he's a brat. Im gonna go eat a bowl of hot sauce and take my cold shower now.
arceus121121 6 months ago
JR is right on this, no way is that sane parenting...the kid is better off in an orphanage
genghisdon1 6 months ago
Flag his shit for spam, he's a shithead troll.
jschultzVII 6 months ago
@jschultzVII you are a potential abuser
wateryskipper 6 months ago
@wateryskipper And you are an actual retard.
jschultzVII 6 months ago
@jschultzVII it takes one to know one. go fuck yourself there are more important matters
wateryskipper 6 months ago
@wateryskipper Ohhhh wow, haven't heard that since 3rd fuckin grade, shitstain. And yes, you have more important matter, go troll somewhere else.
jschultzVII 6 months ago
@jschultzVII and you are in the fourth? go study you abc's lipshitz
wateryskipper 6 months ago
@wateryskipper lol im glade you got beat, you deserve it.
ryanmail2004 6 months ago
@ryanmail2004 listen to me you dumb fuck! You think that is abuse mother fucker? I wish that my parents would have done that to me insted of the abuse that I went threw. Do you think it would be better if she took the kid on the bed and beat the shit out of him with a belt till he fucking bled? this mom just has an out of control kid and she is trying everything to change that. I would not do the things that she is trying but seriously grow the fuck up!
wateryskipper 6 months ago
@wateryskipper you shoulda got beat a lot harder
ryanmail2004 6 months ago
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@jschultzVII And you are an actual retard.
wateryskipper 6 months ago
my father use to make me sit at the table all night and eat food that made me puke is that child abuse?
MTVVH1sucks 6 months ago
@MTVVH1sucks listen to me you dumb fuck! You think that is abuse mother fucker? I wish that my parents would have done that to me insted of the abuse that I went threw. Do you think it would be better if she took the kid on the bed and beat the shit out of him with a belt till he fucking bled? this mom just has an out of control kid and she is trying everything to change that. I would not do the things that she is trying but seriously grow the fuck up!
wateryskipper 6 months ago
My grandparents hit me with a yardstick, and i'm glad they did. After I got hit with it I never stuck another penny in an outlet, messed with dangerous cleaning chemicals under the sink, or went near the road without an adult.
jschultzVII 6 months ago
Ana and Cenk are awesome
MTVVH1sucks 6 months ago
armenia was christian while rome was feeding them to lions
genghisdon1 6 months ago
You guys were way off on the pot and persecution issue... Its more of a economic issue rather than race issue. You have to be able to afford those lawyers regardless of your race in order for them to drop a case so readily. Now the case that there are more minorities that are poor than white is correct but that would be the only weighted bias line to apply in that case. The people at the top who make money off of prisoners target the poor in general with these policies and tactics.
pomeroy82 6 months ago
I've got the same keyboard as Jayar.
WillyTung 6 months ago
Creepy preacher baby is creepy.
jschultzVII 6 months ago
Back in the day, (I'm about as old as Cerk) my mom admitted to cutting me, while holding me at butcher-knife point threatening to kill me and then herself, and kicking me in the balls dozens of times, spitting in my eyes, punching in my face as I slept, etc, etc etc.. and the runaway shelter sent me back to live with her, and some clueless teachers/relatives had thought I needed more spanking/discipline. QI, punishment is not equal to Reinforcement in Classical Conditioning. To better tomorrows
bluegreen1138 6 months ago
I love this channel!
beamex101 6 months ago
I agree with Jayar. Psychological abuse can be just as damaging as physical.
lisalck 6 months ago
srsly
TheVirtualStoa 6 months ago
Quit spamming, shitcock.
jschultzVII 6 months ago
you're an asshole ana
wateryskipper 6 months ago
@wateryskipper listen to me you dumb fuck! You think that is abuse mother fucker? I wish that my parents would have done that to me insted of the abuse that I went threw. Do you think it would be better if she took the kid on the bed and beat the shit out of him with a belt till he fucking bled? this mom just has an out of control kid and she is trying everything to change that. I would not do the things that she is trying but seriously grow the fuck up!
MTVVH1sucks 6 months ago
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@MTVVH1sucks listen to me you dumb fuck! You think that is abuse mother fucker? I wish that my parents would have done that to me insted of the abuse that I went threw. Do you think it would be better if she took the kid on the bed and beat the shit out of him with a belt till he fucking bled? this mom just has an out of control kid and she is trying everything to change that. I would not do the things that she is trying but seriously grow the fuck up!
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wateryskipper 6 months ago
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@wateryskipper listen to me you dumb fuck! You think that is abuse mother fucker? I wish that my parents would have done that to me insted of the abuse that I went threw. Do you think it would be better if she took the kid on the bed and beat the shit out of him with a belt till he fucking bled? this mom just has an out of control kid and she is trying everything to change that. I would not do the things that she is trying but seriously grow the fuck up!
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wateryskipper 6 months ago
@MTVVH1sucks come on I am waiting for more
wateryskipper 6 months ago
@MTVVH1sucks listen to me you dumb fuck! You think that is abuse mother fucker? I wish that my parents would have done that to me insted of the abuse that I went threw. Do you think it would be better if she took the kid on the bed and beat the shit out of him with a belt till he fucking bled? this mom just has an out of control kid and she is trying everything to change that. I would not do the things that she is trying but seriously grow the fuck up!
wateryskipper 6 months ago
fuck you cenk fuck you ana
wateryskipper 6 months ago
@wateryskipper u fucking TROLL, why are u even watching this video?
duffbeer360 6 months ago
@duffbeer360 shut up, do you have any idea of the trauma that child went through with the hot sauce and cold shower? and these people are suppose to be advocates for justice? You shut the fuck up!!!!!
wateryskipper 6 months ago
cenk you are an asshole on a lot of things. animal and children cruelty
wateryskipper 6 months ago
ana you are ignorant with emotional abuse on children
wateryskipper 6 months ago
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you do not teach children through abuse
wateryskipper 6 months ago
@Celebrindan discipline is different from abuse
wateryskipper 6 months ago
Cenk giving props to Anonymous, gotta love it. More people should be outraged over what they uncovered. Government contractors planning to undermine the 1st amendment rights of journalists, that's some scumbag shit.
I support Wikileaks and Anonymous. We have a right to know what our elected government is doing in our names.
jschultzVII 6 months ago 2
Excuse me Ron Paul gets my vote if i have to choose from him and Obama.
Alehanable 6 months ago
Physically disciplining kids isn't bad by default, as long as it's consistent. I got spanked as a kid, I god damn deserved it every time, and no scars were left behind.
Harm is done when you yell and scare the shit out of the kid in the process of doing so, or if you do it inconsistently, sending mixed messages.
If spanking lead to fucked up kids, there wouldn't have been a sane people in history. The idea of frowning upon physical disciplining of kids is a new one after all.
hcnuup 6 months ago
@hcnuup Just because child-abuse doesn't create serial killers, doesn't mean it doesn't massively damage many peoples minds. And just because the world hasn't completely fallen apart while being run by adults who were abused as children, does NOT mean the world is as good as it can be under human leadership---that is obvious to all.
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Is it really so ridiculous to suggest we try to raise our children into well-adjusted adults, who will make the best decisions, without any mental damage?
Jex134 6 months ago
@Jex134 My point was that physical disciplining doesn't equal to child-abuse and doesn't cause mental harm in the first place, and that mental damage is done with poor parenting skills, like lashing out on the kids for your personal matters, creating uneven boundaries for them or making them fear you by being inconsistent and unstable with your punishments.
hcnuup 6 months ago
Why on Earth do you think Ron Paul doesn't want to give the corporations everything? Look at his vote record. Look at what he's actually been suggesting in the past.
Watch his Google interview. The guy thinks the solution for our pollution problem is to sell all our public lands to the highest bidder. You think the government won't go along with that? Please don't praise this man, he wants the ultimate ownership society and dissolution of our government.
TheGiantRobot 6 months ago
I guess you could fucking waterboard you child then, because through your logic its not abuse, it doesnt leave any marks, or rub dog shit in their face? doesnt hurt the child so its not abuse?
spaik007 6 months ago
@spaik007 you can't accidentally kill your kids with hot sauce on his tongue though
osp80 6 months ago
How is that NOT criminal? wtf were these two thinking? they seriously think that physical abuse outweighs psychological abuse as though the former wasn't dependent on the latter. Morons.
Dreadlocks for the win!!! witht he common sense and human decency and all.
testament 6 months ago 3