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  • ie 3 reps @ 225 bench w/o roids

    8 rep @ 225 w/ bench w/ roids

    steroids doesnt make you stronger it makes ATP last longer allowing you to do more reps therefore allowing you to get stronger (i think lol)

    im sure many of you know this but consider it a random PSA lol don't take this as me showing off my knowledge of lack there of i jus wanted to put that out and see if im right and how ppl take it

  • @geofflbradley Well, satelite cells, are within muscle tissue and have more nuclei that account for protein synthesis and contribute to muscle fiber TYPE/conversion, the more you satelite cells you have/recruit the more you increase protein synthesis, increasing hypertrophy of the muscle and eventually strength. Increased Testosterone does have an effect on the metabolic rate of ATP, for the fact that you are simply recruiting more muscle fibers, *not creating. Creatine makes ATP last longer

  • @geofflbradley Also, gluconeogensis and glycogenolysis are two important metabolic processes with regards to converting energy out of substrate besides carbs, and the generation of ATP by processing lactate in the liver. *Increased T-rone with proper explosive training allows intermediate muscle fibers to be converted to Type2x (aka FAST twitch) which are responsble for power, explosion, and strength

  • @geofflbradley then why do powerlifters juice?

  • hey here's why roids works (i think lol) they allow your ATP to break a lil slower than it normally would if you weren't taking them therefore you are able to do more reps then you normally would. ATP (free eneregy, energy expended without you getting tired) lasts 4-6 seconds (6 if you are an excellent athlete) then it breaks down and you go into oxygen debt or you start to get tired...steroids allows more time to work before you hit oxygen debt

  • Does anyone have a theory on why many throwers do powerlifting-style squats over Olympic style squats? In my opinion the Olympic squat seems more beneficial

  • @VikingII Steroids are legal for half those guys like Marius.... They're allowed in the strongman competition so it's hardly fair.

  • @stopthebullshit100 and they should be legal, they're less damaging than alcohol and more medicinal than marijuana.

  • you are all blabbing on about 2days guys lifting heavier weights,maybe so but whats the use of lifting heavy weights slowly, best to lift half the weifht 3 times as fast....

  • He is redonkulously weak compared to the strength monsters of today. Good guys now Bench Press close to 600lbs, squat 750lbs at LEAST, deadlift 750-800lbs. This

  • @VikingII Are you comparing him to today's shot putters, or today's equipped powerlifters?

  • @WinF64 neither, I'm talking raw lifts from men like poundstone,savickas,pudzianows­ki,kazmaier,vyrastuk,kakyleav and various others.

  • @VikingII Okay, but those guys are strongman competitors rather than throwers, so it's kind of an apples to oranges comparison. Not taking anything away from those guys, because stongman comps are great.

  • @WinF64 I'm just saying he is weak by comparison when looking at modern strength athletes. Everybody is ooing and aweing at his strength

  • I wish zydrunas would clean and jerk

  • @VikingII The only strongman you should be comparing him to is Capes.

  • Wait

    They didnt show him taking steroids? I thought this was a workout video?

  • He thinks he is a basses because he was a juicehead.

  • don't suppose anyone knows his stats ? like cleans snatches for 1 , 3 rep maxes ? or even howoften he trained ?

  • Keep your hips on the bench big boy

  • i can do that with my DICK...

  • why don't he use any weights for 2:00 ?

  • what a manimal(man/animal)

  • gay music

  • best mullet ever.

  • OMG! i really want the name of this song.. its so nice :D

  • what a chump! timmermann is the greatest shot putter ever!

  • @ashlottie no, he really isnt

    Barnes is, becuase.... Barnes threw further than Timmermann.

    Don't give me thart Steroid crap, the GDR held all three common throwing records prior to Barnes in the 1990's. And there steroid reputation isn't exactly good.

  • @TheBruiser012

    Actually Timmermann is in fact the greatest shot putter of all times. We're looking at the whole career here. Ulf threw over 22m more times than any other thrower in history. Randy was never at the top really (except in 1990). Randy's second best throw is 22.42 (and 22.66 indoors). He never threw more than that except his WR. Ulf did. Many times. He even threw 22.69 during the lock left glide drill in training. And 22.03 with feet down, no reverse. He is the greatest.

  • @ytubeserb Then be prepared to hand the title over to Jacko Gill my friend, because this kid is hitting 18m with 7.26kg at age 15, He's the youngest world champ ever, beating Usain Bolt's record and whats more - beating all the 19-18 year old competition . On Oly silver medalist, NZL record holder in both the shot and disc. Jr. world leader and whats more, he's only 87kg.

  • @TheBruiser012

    Jacko Gill is a great kid and he's going to rule the world of throwing soon. I've been following his career for a while now and he's unbelievable. At the beginning of this year he threw the senior shot a little over 16m, and few weeks ago he threw it 18.57m. And I thought he's going to have problems when he switches to senior implement. Boy was I wrong...Btw, he beat our guy by half a meter at World Juniors, Bozidar Antunovic, who's older, stronger and heavier. Gill is awesome

  • @ytubeserb Gill is an inspiration to all us Junior throwers, and I'm looking to take world Youth Gold, and I'm bloody hoping that Gill won't compete in that competition :)

  • why is he doing that light weight dB work?

  • @TheBruiser012 he's doing the DB exercise to work his shoulders.

  • anyone who says this guy took roids and doesnt realise the fact that 20 years ago everyone was on steroids is retarded. You hounestly think someone as short and stocky as Timmermann would have thrown 23+ with a glide 100% "clean"? I would also bet a lot of money Udo Beyer and Werner Gunthor would have also taken them. Notice how 20-25 years laster, with improved training and knwoledge AND DRUG TESTS we haven't come close to taking the shot/disc records?

  • @TheBruiser012 so give the records to best of today....

  • @TheBruiser012 Timmermann wasn't "short and stocky" he was 6"4 and 260lbs and its not fair to assume he did take steriods when he never failed a drugs test, Barnes failed several. Theres no proof to back up your claim that Timmerman took steriods, putting the shot 23+ with a glide is not proof.

  • what's the name of the song?

  • should shotputters do some oblqiue isolate work?

  • @sum182wrestling

    Do some and if you think it helps then keep doing it.

  • how much did he weigh?

  • @sum182wrestling according to his iaaf profile he was 123kg

  • @mrcatohead

    Heh, little hope for us little ones. ;)

  • @mrcatohead holy shit, thats 22 kilos more than me

  • @mrcatohead hee hee abut 140kg

  • how much did this mofo weigh?

  • whats the song!!!!

  • whats the song?

  • I dig the Tom Sellick look.

  • any one know what that lift is called, where he is doing almost a power clean but not actually catching it at the top?

  • FRIGGIN BEAST MODE!

  • whats the song?

  • So many stupid comments. Proves most people have such limited knowledge of the iron game and strength sports.

  • man his form on bench is really sloppy...good way to get hurt

  • @cliffjumper11 not really.

  • Thats a good ole west virginia boy.

  • Thats a good ole west virginia boy.

  • drug cheat too

  • I bet he's like 500pounds of fat now

  • @brettmoosethompson why would he be 500 pounds of fat now?

  • this guys admitted to using steroids

  • @hiltoverkof did he really have to admit it? you would have to b pretty stupid not to know

  • @hiltoverkof all elite throwers used roids in his time,there were no tests so of course they used.Why do you think many throwing records still stand 20 years later.

  • And to think what must have happened to him after he quit throwing...

  • you know all in all he wasn't THAT strong, especially in comparison to some guys today. That's just a testament to his trech work in the ring though. Greatest shot putter to ever live, regardless of the roids

  • @bigjoshscherer

    you are an idiot.

  • @tomharder on which statement? Barnes being the greatest shot putter or him not being THAT strong? I mean guys like Noah Bryant could outlift him now. As far as him being the best, I know guys like Timmerman and Beyer are also in the conversation, even Matson I guess for what he did for the sport. But Barnes threw the implement farther than anyone... ever.

  • @bigjoshscherer Your right - we had a guy at my university that PC like 360lbs, bench was crazy and squat was rediculous - but he only threw like 58'. Throwing is about power - not strength and to prove that roids did not do as much as people think for randy barnes - look at his warm up throw at A&M at the Mt Sac relays when he was a 19 year old freshman - 76'. Power is fast-twitch and hereditary - he sure must have been a very powerful guy because these weights are not crazy at all.

  • @bigjoshscherer Brian oldfield actually!

  • @bigjoshscherer i'm sure some of the putters today would be offended about the roids comment. they're THE factor in all the old strength records. there are guys out there today who'd break em' and then some if they could use juice. imagine albert pujols with mark mcguire's medicine cabinet

  • @tommypickles7 Haha, I love the Pujols analogy. But who's to say that Pujols isn't juicing under the table and getting away with it? I don't want to believe it because he's one of the few good guys left out there, but the possibility is there. When I was a kid I whole-heartedly believed Palmiero when he said "I never used steroids, PERIOD", and we know how that turned out. You can never really know, some guys are just smarter with what they do and know how to get away with it.

  • @tommypickles7 Also, I'm saying his lifting numbers were not that obscene. There are guys out there, i.e. Noah Bryant, who have higher lifting numbers, but cannot touch his distances. I know without the roids his numbers wouldn't have been as high as they are, but the roids can't teach the technical prowess and drive that he had.... personally, the guy kinda sickens me for some reason, but I still think he is the greatest shot putter of all time.

  • @bigjoshscherer yup, i have friends that can squat the same amount and they're only 19, not to mention they don't take any supplements. today's squatters literally go as high as up to 1000 lb for 2 reps (referring to kirk karwoski) and their ass almost touches the floor. as for me i'm 15 with the maxes of DL:245, SQ: 225, BP: 185. i'm also joining shotput this year so, i hoe to get somewhere haha :p

  • @bloodyawakening trust me your first year of track is not going to be the best

  • @Tj5923 what makes you say that lol?

  • @bloodyawakening usually peoples first year of shot is not the best but idk you might be good but if your not dont get down second year is where its at, at least for me. Just keep up the weights and you will do fine.

  • @Tj5923 ha ok. hey are legal prohormones banned in shot? i've been taking androstanediol and i've gained A LOT of strength. in the past month i went up to 315 on squat and deadlift (however no gains in bench), and i'm wondering if they test you for it.

  • @bloodyawakening More than likey, NO. I highly doubt they would do any drug test of any kind.

  • @Tj5923 hmm, sounds like a good idea, i might just go for it, thanks bro :)

  • @bloodyawakening likely

  • if he fucking gives a slap in da face to a guy he will kill him instantly..

  • Gaydar is beeping loud as fuck at the end.

  • wtf

  • lol look at hes back at 0:24 "Hammer Throw" hahahaha the irony XD

  • Really? Have you ever competed in a meet? There is no federation in the history of competitive powerlifting or bench-only meets that allows your ass to come off the bench. Only a back arch, with shoulders and ass down at all times. There are alot of guys that can lift big weights in a gym but in a sanctioned meet where the weight has to be controlled and the press has to be strict, they crumble.

  • I think he isn't training for bench competition. Shot putter has to do bench very explosively and it doesn't matter if he's ass comes little bit off the bench.

    Don't comment if you know anything.

  • theres no rule about your butt getting off the ground

  • well he was competing in the track and field..

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  • Who fucking cares? He's a thrower...

  • who cares whether his bench is legal or not ? He's not a powerlifter, no need for a "strict press". He's benching for throwing the shot.

  • argee

  • Don't glorify this cheating douche bag. The guy was on performance enhancers and got caught twice and was banned for life. I'm sick of seeing these lame videos on Youtube as if he is the model people should be following. Fuck him...he has no honor.

  • That's right, -everyone else is so clean right? Kids are startving to death, the banks have robbed us blind, the environment's fucked and you're bitter about this, -getting a fucking life!

  • hey man well said. there are a lot more drugs in pro sports than people think, just because one guy got caught and another didn't doesn't mean one guy is a hero and the other is a prick, there are greater tragedies in the world to worry about.

  • does anyone know what song this is?

  • Chuck McAllister benched 550 like pie and squatted 650 for reps with no aids like wraps and tight shirts. He was a helluva shot putter!!

  • I'm Irish and 15 and throw 48-49 feet with 12lb how does this compare with American kids of my age

  • you're ahead ;-)

  • I threw in the highland games a 32' 9 with a 16 lb stone, and i took first in the event. I just turned 16, so your throw is not to bad at all.

  • dont know why but i suppose you're talking shit..

  • I can't believe barnes is the world record holder... he's weak compared to the other throwers, cantwell / adam nelson (don't know about hoffa) are definitely stronger. Nelson can incline bench 535 and barnes is fighting on a 500 flat bench... this must be when he was clean

  • randy had efficient technique. I read that his stand throw was 59. Also, the bench probably wasn't when he was fresh. His bench as a high schooler was 400.

  • yea I read the same, but the rotational standing throw is always considerably low in comparison to the full throw.I do doubt he could bench alot anyways... and his squat is right around where adam nelson and cantwell are. The part where he's doing powercleans hammer style hes clean.

  • yes but randy had steroids

  • true, but even then he's still weak

  • The Fact is that Barnes Had What they call Tork. He was Athletic like a Full back and moved through the ring with authority. Kinda likeNoah Bryant

  • "tork" ;-) I'm assuming thats slang for Torque . Adam Nelson has boat loads of torque... soo much he has a goofy looking form, However his distance isn't up to part with randy's

  • Old school lifting! Strong guy, but I am disappointed to see him doing football player cleans! :-/

  • Nothing like old american school.

    Nothing.

  • The truth is that many modern guys are stronger than Barnes. But not many of the Big Lifters are Functional. Randy Wasnt Muscle bond, just strong.

  • What are randy barnes and brian oldfield doing now? where have they gone, i mean are they even alive?

  • . oldfield is in wheel chair . i dont know what randy barnes is doing

  • roids or not this dude is a beast

  • your all liers who think your so big and bad. id bet money that none of you could squat 335 in seventh grade or 8th its just showing everybody your all liers

  • i love the randy barnes stash hahaha!

  • he maynot be strong to you keyboard coaches, but ca you throw a 16 pound shot over 70 feet?

  • your in 8th grade and benching 315?

  • no queer i swuat three fifteen.. im a beast.

  • you squat 315 in the 8th grade and think you're a beast? ha dude i was squatting 335 in 7th grade and 365 in 8th grade. now im up to 475 as a senior. your pussy shit 315 is nothing.

  • yes i could bench 315 as a freshmen in highschool and squat 405 as u said 315 is pussy shit

  • wow you only inproved that much? i mean im not bragging, but man if your doin 365 as an 8th grader, and only 110 pounds more as a senior, thats kinda sad. i put 100 pounds on my squat in less than 6 months

  • i broke my leg as a soph and my squat plummeted and i just had a hard time getting it back up. but thats pretty good for you to gain 100 in 6 months

  • hey futuremarine if u still are wanting to b a future marine i suggest u shut it u piece of shit .

  • and what if i dont? you gonna come fight me?

  • oh trust me buddy u dont wanna fight me im not some little fucking kid pretending to b a bigshot on youtube. understood!

  • you think im trying to be a big shot because i shared what my lifts are? i was a huge guy in middle school who took up lifting early to start my highschool football career and your gonna sit there not knowing me and call me a liar?

  • sit on it fonzi

  • your mom sat on mine :)

  • :) cool.

  • as a 9th grader my squat was 135 as an 11th grader it's now 505. there's always someone better than you.

  • Juicin it boy?

  • ha im a freshman right now. i squat 460 bench 315 and deadlift 500

  • that aint shit.

  • and youre retarded for thinking that

  • what the fuck are talking about douchebag.

  • you said that aint shit

  • you not in the 8th grade benching 315

  • i think he means squat and still doubt that. i did 455 lb for squat and 360 for bench. 305 for clean and jerk. 235 for snatch.

  • he arches his back because he is more focused on getting the weight up fast more then everything else...he is not powerlifting...he is doing explosive lifts

  • It's really irrelevant how he lifted because regardless of his lifting technique he was still a legend in the ring. Regardless, does anyone know the name of the song in this video?

  • you are so full of shit its unbelievable

  • So they're benching 1,000 and squatting 1,200? I really, really doubt it.

  • first your douchebag. secondly these lifts were done late in his career. in his prime when broke the world record he was doing like 585 for bench and was doing like 700 something in the squat. on top of that he is shot putter and his main focus is on throwing not lifting so hes not as strong as could be if he just focused on lifting. thirdly theres no way in hell guys on your high school team or doing the same weight as he is doing. so quit lying.

  • your dick is little.

  • your dick is little. really it is. thats not something you want people know about dude. that you have little one. another thing. dont comment stupid shit like this ever again.

  • well, I have been taught not to arch because of potential injury. not 100% if its true or not. but, i do know it will give you boguss max scores

  • arch = that he does in slowmotion?

  • hes benching like a powerlifter-to increase the weight when he should be focusing on isolating the muscle groups he wants to exercise- pectorals

  • its harder with an arched back. the arch dosent give support. it takes away support. im sure he's unconsciously doing it out of desperation since the weight is , idk TWICE HIS BODY?!?!?

  • rofl no roids

    that level of athletes are tested before or after every meet. at the trials last year, every athlete that got the A standard had to go get testing after the podium

  • Especially if you are a thrower, because the sport is extremely individual.

  • are you being sarcastic or saying he didnt take roids?

  • he did take roids his freashmen year at texas am but not after that. but ulf timmermann, udo beyer, brian oldfield. they all took roids to so it wasn't like he was the only one.

  • yeah it fucking matters. when you arch it messes up your back, but i guess when you are on that much steroids it doesnt matter.

  • I've arch my back for 10 years and I feel great :-). I know lots of people that do and there fine. I'm thinking thats just a myth. or people that have a bad back shouldnt do it.

  • when he is benchin the 495 he is arching so bad!!!

  • does it matter? no. and think of the position your body is in when your pushing the shot. its about the same

  • I bet 50% of his strength comes from his mighty mullet.

  • easily or more

  • haha so true

  • he is huge... looks like a body builder than a shotputter

  • NO he doesn't. wth.

  • Shot put is not only about strength,  technique is a vital part, watch his shot put training videos, he is an artist in the circle.

  • Holy crap he's the best shot putter ever and he can't bench 500 lbs for 2? No disrespect and I know 500 lbs. is a LOT (I can't do it for the record) but I would have expected the shot puuer with the world record to be able to do it twice. I know armwrestlers who can and armwrestling isn't a lot about the chest muscles.

  • Shot Putting is about total body power, not just chest/shoulders/triceps strength.  Squats/Cleans/and Deadlifts will do more for your shot putting than bench pressing!

  • I gotcha but I still expected a bench of more than 500x2.

  • watch the randy barnes bench press video, his last rep was 565

  • i doubt that that clip was a total set?

  • shot put comes more from the legs. the squats, cleans, jerks , snatch, deadlifts then bench press. it helps. but the legs makes up the big portion of it. and techinque is must to.

  • techinque above all things is most important