Keith Owen: Escape from Side Control (Thumb in the Arm Pit)

[himoms1001]

i didnt think this would work until i dug my thumb into my own pits LOL

[salvationwar]

A martial artist attacks ones strong points, being fair.

A fighter attacks ones weaknesses, being dirty.

Which one do you think is the smarter way to go?

BJJ is a fighter's sport guys.

[ObliquusExternus]

..It all makes sense now.. O.o

[beargrylls3]

who did Roy Nelson use this on? What fight?

[UmDiaEuFicoBom]

Seems good. I`ll try t today.

[BlazingChildOmine]

Lol, Red looks like he's bored xD

[holyshitletmeinplz]

@swilson3d Sam, This is not real BJJ. Settle down don't take it personally. Whe I was 13 or so I loved to think this was cool. "World Champion Level" Are you saying this crap is being taught by a BJJ World Champion. When did he win the Worlds or even compete in the worlds. Look Sam there is a lot of crap out there and people deserve to know whats what.

[Blahb27]

@holyshitletmeinplz That black belt he's wearing doesn't come for free with a box of cornflakes you know. Even if there's no such thing as flawless technique(s), he probably knows what he's talking about.

In this case he's just using that finger as a point for the hand, not as a finger by itself. You do that very same thing with each finger all the time in grappling, it's unavoidable when making any push motion, unless making a fist all the time.

Ever got injured with every push you made? ;-)

[holyshitletmeinplz]

Can you please tell me where this worked in the UFC again? I know you said "Big Something, whats his name?" But really this cant work in a real fight. Please stop saying real fighters use this. Someone would dislocate your thumb. You are flat on your back trying to get your opponent off you with a thumb. Come on. Are you sure you didn't see this in the WWF? I think you are confused.

[swilson3d]

@holyshitletmeinplz I think YOU are confused about who you are talking to. These guys aren't just wrestling each other in their basement, guessing at what might work. These are high level grapplers. They train with a world champion level circle of friends.

-and BTW the name he said was Roy "Big Country" Nelson.

It's called rewind, it's not rocket science.

[Arcturistheballer]

people shouldnt complain oh this is dirty pressure point etc. Thats bjj, framing across some ones neck, shoulder pressure, thumb in armpit.

[1lostinspace]

He would just adjust and hold the hips in 69 or go all the way around. Taking a move that worked once against one guy does not make it a move. That is just common sense create space. Either way it will work if the guy does not adjust to North South or goes around the other way I know guys that would turn into it and throw a leg over mounting you.

[1lostinspace]

He would just adjust and hold the hips

[nineTproduction]

so the thumb is just used to bring a little pain eh? If i use my thumb to push away i'm def gonna screw that thing up.

[MasterHatfield]

@:19 sec when going over why my friend would they do that? I would have just took the arms and put my knee up to his cross body position. If arms come up that is next part put up nice Hapkido type rev arm bar... that leads to like 10+ other kinds of moves if you train Cross body alot.

[unitedseven7]

a good blue belt never gives u so much space 

[SlightlyDazed7]

My instructor would be ashamed if I did a douchy move like that at a comp.

[Nookiee89]

its better going for.. Im Number One! (Y)

[COPE4N1]

I've been using a similar move for a couple years but as a sweep the difference is at :36 if you shrimp your hips towards and under his hips(hip to hip facing same direction), use the opposite arm(arm closest to his hips) then get up on the other elbow (one closest to his head) then get up on your hand and sit up it will sweep him with you ending up in side control!

[xxchaosnyxx27]

hey i found myself in someones guard all the time and i don't no what to do from there i do some neck cranks but that all can u respond on which moves to do to someone if they have you in the guard thanks i really appreciate and watch all your videos.

[masterblastertkd]

@xxchaosnyxx27 I bet they have some videos on passing the guard ;-)

[xxchaosnyxx27]

@masterblastertkd ya but what if you want to submit someone from the guard i know how to escape it but the moves that I know are illegal in competition

[cwayne4]

If your partner is a badass he will go through the pain and hurt your thumb.

I wont take that risk.....

[wchart]

this is taught in a lot of kung fu systems. awesome to see it used in bjj.

[Gaskal1365]

I think what thosedamnhooligans was asking is, is this move allowed in sanctioned fights such as the UFC?

[patricknipsports]

i whip up from lockdown pushing with my thumbs into armpits because I'm short and I get called cheap :P

[paulwall3232]

I tried this in practice. It worked pretty well and the funny thing is no one got mad. My coach thought it was hilarious I was using it.

[shoulung]

actually this really would be considered a pressure point attack. the armpit is a large convergence of nerves and veins, plus the structure of the body allows this to work. those are are the things the denote a pressure point.

[eric18603yankees]

..so is it considered a pressure point..looks like a really good way to get out..but..is it legal..lets say in Naga

[benzomah]

OK, but if it comes to "big toe up butt" I quit. ;-)

[cpnkd7]

@benzomah Butt do you check the oil?

[outdoorsman715]

i really appreciate all your videos.

[ognimoddd]

all you need to do when someone is on side control is take ur thumb and jam it up their butt and when u push them off, get on full mount

[215andrew]

cool I'm gonna try this thanks!

[thosedamnhooligans]

thats legal ? seems a bit dirty but effective

[Submissions101]

@thosedamnhooligans Now here is the thing. For people who have not done this nor had it done, the immediate reaction is "its a pressure point attack" or "its a douchey move."

It really isn't. This is uncomfortable but not major pain producing. The beauty of it is that it really does move you. It moves you enough that your partner can throw the guard back on.

[KJGould]

@Submissions101 Unless the ref says otherwise, everything's fair game. There's a big bundle of nerves in the armpit which is why it's effective. Legit Catch wrestlers are masters of irritating their opponent like this (their ethos: don't wait for them to react, make them react).

[kevkool230]

@Submissions101 My father's friend is a korean acupuncturist and he considers some points on the armpit pressure points but yea someone did that to me. most unconfortable feeling ever

[seanyyman]

@Submissions101 Totally agree.. this AIN'T illegal.. but DOES work like a charm, very effective and the best part of it, Well.. it doesn't need to be drilled haha! Keith is the MAN!

[lookylooky2006]

@Submissions101

the pressure point aspect is my favorite

practically anytime you touch someone you could be hitting a pressure point and I say its all good

Also, as far as "douchy" moves go, SO WHAT ( not to you but to people who like to claim it, maybe cause they have been burned by it

I say remove the ego and you are a winner, "douchey " moves and all

thanks for the videos

[XxSeminolexX]

@thosedamnhooligans Yeh come on! Thumb in the armpit? Dirty move! Let's at least keep it civilized and just try to break our opponents arm and choke him out instead.

*sarcasm*

[fearthenightraids]

@thosedamnhooligans in the streets there is no illegal stuff. like the navy seals say, always cheat if you can. there are no rules anywhere.

[DestroyCo]

oh this is good i needed something like this :) useful: yes!

[TheSenseofTouch]

thanks

[ajeckell]

I'm always nervous about using my individual digits for for gripping or pushing when I roll. Is there any risk with this or am I being overly cautious?

[Iceman22742]

So simple, so effective. Putting that one in mah toolbelt!

[josh1212121]

keith owen is the best

[mxzptlx1357]

yeah, bring back good old pressure points to bjj ! :)

I often spar "anything goes" but 50 % power to avoid damage and I see many gaps in "legal" moves, still, abusing "legal nasty" ones feels weird

in UFC footstomps are ok but toe locks would count as small joint manipulation...

I've been stepped on my hands before and it can also hurt like hell...

[Tax1982wt]

Nice!

[ES131189]

haha thumb in the armpit is always a good way to start an escape:D

[pedigreeY2J]

That is gross and effective , love the combination !

[Metabilly30]

wow looks so simple gonna give it a try today thank you so much

[djchangsta]

cool...i know this move...nice adaption for the ground game...i learned this as a kung fu move when someone throws a punch, you shift to the side and thumb to armpit and strike or setup a lock

[JAG82]

these videos are the best

[duroflex29]

Keith Owen just seems like an incredibly down-to-earth instructor. He turns the most mundane and everyday parts of BJJ into lifesavers. Much thanks to Submissions101 for this and all their other very helpful videos.

[Dr8co1]

wow this really works, my little bro out weighs me and i always have trouble getting out of this position.....but not anymore :D

[paulwall3232]

What are the chances one could break or dislocate their thumb doing that?

[Submissions101]

@paulwall3232 I've done this a thousand times and never had a problem. It isn't just the thumb...its the whole hand that really is pushing and then regaining guard.

[paulwall3232]

@Submissions101 Thanks. Love the video. We're working on side control escapes right now at my academy. I am going to try this out. Again thanks

[Submissions101]

@paulwall3232 Paul....look at all of Keith Owen's Side escape serious on Sub 101...they are all great!

[lvecsey]

more discoveries to come!

[jdawgzilla117]

I like how he snaps showing what to look at. (It made my eyes move very fast).

[youtoobz1]

Wouldn't this be considered a pressure point technique because they are illegal at my gym.

[fackinsaxy]

@youtoobz1 well it's not really the point of pressure being applied by the thumb, but more the leverage u get by using the thumb as like a support lever to hook into the guy's armpit to keep him away.

[tsledd]

Damn Keith for giving away a one of my favorite jems! J/K... Keith never has seen me do it.

Seriously guys, take note of this... not so much for what he says when he teaches the thumb in the armpit, but how he reacts to the counter movements... JIU-JITSU!