There was no such thing a the virgin birth & is not biblical. The Roman Church turned the narrative into a virgin birth myth because it was trying to convert & dealing with a pagan public that were familiar with virgin birth stories. In fact the lineage of Jesus is there in Mathew & verifies that Jesus is of Joseph's seed, & also implies that Joseph impregnated Mary before marriage, which to a church obsessed with purity, chastity etc. changed the interpretation & facts.
Fallen western priesthoods, plying an age old trade on the ignorance of the common man. There has been no 'new' 'religion' since the birth of the cosmos.
'Prophesy' is divination. All valid practitioners of 'religion' (faith and gospel), using proper 'scripture' (word) can still 'prophesy'. One of the primary lies of the western 'bible' and hebrew 'torah' is that there are no more prophets, and specifically none outside of their 'church'. Prophets are derided in their time, because truth is bitter to the newly awakened.
An offshoot of the vedic teachings in that part of the world...the righteous...the Essenes...and still very wattered down.
@abbesieyes When you start preaching, then God gives you more in spirit and you can discern the Truth from lies.
Holy Books are dead Letters made living in christ within your own heart like the Rabbis used to have the knowledge of Oral Torah or had christs in their hearts.
@nijjhar1 "Letters Made Living In Christ"...not without knowledge of "The Woman".
I preach every time I post. The only valid 'preaching', exposition of Truth to the benefit of all Men. The Ancient Christianism has nothing to do with the current fallen thing called 'Christianity'.
Once Word is removed from verbalization at proper tone and cadence, and placed upon a page...fallen priesthoods may have their way.
@abbesieyes There is no such thing as a Western Bible. The Bible is the Inspired Word of God. Jesus Christ finished the work His Father sent Him 2 do: Preach the kingdom of God, repentance, dying on the cross 4 all sinners + rising from the dead thereby defeating death.Have u repented of ur sins + accepted Jesus as ur personal Saviour as He says u must do? If u want 2 b wise my friend then u need 2 repent + believe in Jesus the Son of God. Human knowledge is no substitute 4 repentance...
@abbesieyes ROMANS 1:16-32. U would b wise 2 listen 2 the words of Jesus Christ b4 u dismiss what He says. Human wisdom is no match 4 repentance + believing in Jesus the Saviour of the world. Jesus warns that there will b a Judgement + He will b the Judge. We don't get another chance 2 repent after this life is over. Ask God 2 show u who He is + y He sent His Son 4 our sakes. Scripture shows that many r not going 2 listen even though ppl know they r sinners. Follow the Saviour not men...
The present Christianity is of the antichrists dog-collared hirelings of Mammon. No common sense. Why call Jesus a Lord when He came to set us FREE and serve?
@The3in1trinity The "living christ" is not a 'he', it is a form. Jesus the man is long dead and gone. This 'life' never ends. It merely recurses. Do sell your error to someone not aware of first causes.
@abbesieyes Jesus the Son of God who is God in the flesh is a person + a "He". Jesus was crucified, died + was buried + rose again on the 3rd day + now sits with God His Father in Heaven. I go by every word of the Inspired Word of God the Bible. 2 the ignorant such as urself Jesus is as myth but 2 repentant sinners such as myself He is alive + will return again just as Scripture states. U clearly have never read or understood Scripture if u think Jesus the Saviour is a myth. Read God's Word.
The majority of 'Orthodox Jews' went along to go along, as they were,
1. Duped into believing that what was being established was a Hebrew Nation.
2.. Felt that even if they disagreed with the Zionists, that the people going to Palestine needed religious guidance.
3. Pitiful scholars.
It is to be noted that not all Orthodox agreed with the Zionists and that the Zionists killed some of them as an example. A few clung to the correct path of not following the masses into perdition.
The so-called German 'sons of man' were actually Austrian. The core of the Nazi movement seeded into German politics was Austrian Roman Catholic, almost to a man.
Almost to a man, their enablers were Roman Catholic. Von Papen, Klass, the Krupp von Bohlen und Halbach...all organized by the Jesuit under FR Ledochowski SJ. They were aided and abetted by those who had long ago ceased to be Hebrew, but still had some regional names attached to them...the Companio.
The Vatican established 'Israel' through its proxy the UN. Bea and Fulton Sheen lobbied hard in that body for the establishment when they weren't whipping up the Red Scare, while the 'official stance' of the Vatican was a plausibly deniable 'non possumus'.
Romes 'Companio', in the form of the so-called 'Zionist' hierarchy (Wittgenstein, Rothschild, Herzl, Warburg, etc etc etc) led the effort.
The roman thralls on googles conditioningtube need to get a better education.
Eastern Rite, Virgin, etc etc etc...all found in First Causes/Primum Mobil...and it came to the West via the Gymnos Sophiste.
Siddhartha Gautama did not found 'Buddhism'...a fallen priesthood did after his death. His writings specifically denounce becoming attached to any conception unless you have proven it to yourself...via Faith. Faith in sanskrit is Reason.
To say that "Jew" is a spiritual self is only a half truth. All manu is a spiritual self.
That fallen priesthoods keep those adhering to their half-truths blinded is part in parcel with the current Age. That does not imply that the common people are bound in Tares...but the fallen priesthoods and their sycophants/thugs most certainly are.
"It has served us well, this myth of Christ." A Pope.
Fallen priesthoods establish division where there is only unity.
There is no real difference between 'Judah-ism', or the knowledge of that which called itself 'Egypt', or the knowledge of that which called itself 'Greek Mythology', or the knowledge of the Orthodox 'Christians', or the knowledge of the 'Gnostics'. The forms are simply renamed via euphamism.
The has been no new Law since the birth of the cosmos, and so there may be no 'different' religions. Faith = Reason. Sanskrit.
They had to die so that Rome could re-establish its Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem, via the Zionists.
The 'Zionist' hierarchy...descendants of those who never left Pharoahs side, then sided with the Hellenists, then with the offshoots of the Ptolemy's, then with Roma. Wittgentsteins, Rothchilds, etc. They targeted the Orthodox Jews of the East who would not abide the establishment of a ghetto in "Palestine".
@abbesieyes What are you talkin about? The Vatican is one of the countries that vehemently REFUSED to support the rebirth of Israel. As to the Holocaust, HITLER was the one who was behind the Holocaust-an attempt to annihilate ALL 'undesirables,' especially Jews. He didn't care if they were Orthodox, practicing, or 'Hellenized' Jews, he wanted them ALL dead. Also, many Orthodox Jews supported Zionism.
As to your objection about the Ahaz fulfillment, xanafandu, many prophecies are fulfilled TWICE, once near the time it was given, once in the far future. The Messianic Jew Arnold Fruchtenbaum says that verse is one example. Part of it was to just Ahaz, but it was also to "the House of David." Why would such a prophecy be to the ENTIRE house of David if it would be fulfilled in Ahaz's lifetime? Also, even Orthodox Jews say it is a Messianic prophecy.
Once born of woman, twice born of intellect, thrice born of 'the Virgin'.
Jesus, if he ever existed, was of the line of D(r)avid, or Dravidic teachings. Roma hides her true parent via the euphamism "Eastern Rite". Khristos brings Awareness to the common man, and fallen priesthoods always target Khristos.
Jesus, always a man (never a God) and never seperated from 'The Woman' from birth through death.
'As I have done, so too will you do...and greater things than these.'
Ancient greek language...the closest to First Causes, due to their contact with the Gymnos Sophistes. <--- Ancient vedic holy men, whose ascetecism forbade them even clothing.
xanafanadu's statements regarding what the ancients of any culture 'thought' regarding 'gods'...falacy.
davidbarzeus and xanafanadu: roman sockpuppets on googles conditioningtube, diverting to nothings.
There is no 'literalism' in either OT or NT. They are, when not discussing Astronomy and science, speaking in metaphor relating to Eastern Rite, Mystery and Primum Mobil. When they are not doing any of the afformentioned, they are telling fairy tales to keep man in a fallen state, using language designed to that end.
@abbesieyes Then explain how many of the Tanakh's prophecies were LITERALLY fulfilled. For example-Ezekiel prophesied that Tyre would be completely destroyed-200 years later, Alexander the Great destroyed it EXACTLY the way Ezekiel predicted. Isaiah prophesied about Cyrus ordering the rebuilding of Jerusalem BY NAME-300 years later, Cyrus fulfilled it. Yeshua and Daniel prophesied the destruction of Jerusalem, 40 years after Yeshua and 500 years after Daniel, Rome destroyed it.
@DavidbarZeus1 Astronomy....Calendar....Time. A portion of Divinity is the methodology of divination (prophesy) via Faith. Sanskrit for Faith....Reason. Science...an organization of data.
That which was the past, is the present, and will be the future.
@abbesieyes Hey, you do realize that A:Jews don't practice divination, and B:The only one of those people who'd have had any chance at all to run across Indians is Yeshua, right?
You, sir, sound like a Gnostic, a belief system that should have died out long ago. When people called Yeshua the Son of David, they were calling him the Messiah, not someone like David in spirit. And what is wrong with what Israel is doing? They are simply doing their best to defend themselves from terrorists.
"The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus by the Supreme Being as his father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter." Thomas Jefferson, 1823.
why wasn't jesus born from a man? that sounds more like a miracle to me.. mary was only a whore who claimed she was a virgin and joseph was too much of a fag to have sex with her or was very gullible that she was a virgin. virgin my ass!
@xanafanadu Obviously you don't know much about the times they lived in. Mary was fourteen at the most, and already betrothed to Yosef/Joseph. If she was found to have had sex with a man before her marriage, she could have been stoned to death. Also, the virgin birth was the fulfillment of a prophecy made about 700 years before the birth of Yeshua. Isaiah 7:14-A virgin shall concieve and bear a son. And SHE shall call his name Immanuel (which means God with us.)
@DavidbarZeus1 this "virgin" was mistranslated. in hebrew, the word in the verse is הָעַלְמָה, which means a young woman. whenever the bible speaks about a virgin, it uses the term בתולה. the christian bible is full of mistranslations. it's best to study the old testament in it's original form, hebrew, to really understand it. these mistranslations lead to mistakes like yours. the verse was not speaking about a virgin in any way possible.
@xanafanadu Believe me, I know my Hebrew, and the while the word may not translate directly to virgin, it explicity means a virgin or implies it. Also, the Jews who translated the Tanakh (Old Testament) into Greek used the word Parthenos for almah-a Greek word that DEFINATELY translates to virgin. Do your research next time, and you won't get caught up in an OLD, settled argument.
@DavidbarZeus1 it doesn't matter what the greek meaning is. it's still wrong. if you go to google translate (the only common dictionary between us) and you type in young woman, you will get עלמה and צעירה. if you type in a virgin, you will get בתולה. even in the context of the verse, the sign is meant for Ahaz, not for the distant future.
@xanafanadu Once again, if you read the Tanakh in Hebrew, you would always find it in the context of a woman young enough that she is OBVIOUSLY a virgin, so while it literally translates to 'young woman' it can also translate to 'virgin'. And I brought up the Septuagint because JEWS translated it, which means they would know what Greek words to use. And when they translated that verse in Isaiah, they used Parthenos-'virgin.'
@DavidbarZeus1 no, women got married at age 12 back then. in fact, girls were allowed to be married off at age 9. some say even 3. and just because it's a translation,doesn't mean it's the correct one. if the torah wanted to say virgin-end of story. the torah uses Alma to indicate that although the woman is pregnant, she's obviously young and she's not a virgin.
@xanafanadu Some cultures, maybe. But remember that this is JEWISH culture we're talking about. Jews would not get engaged until at least 12 years old. And that last part is crazy, almah being used to describe a young pregnant woman. David Stern, a Jewish Bible commentator says "Almah always refers to an unmarried woman of good reputation." The Bible uses almah for Rebecca in Gen 24:16 (before she met Yitzach,) and young Mary sister of Moshe in Exodus 2:8. Again, this is a settled argument
@DavidbarZeus1 Almah describes the young woman's age, like Elem (male) is describing a young man's age, not a virgin. if a woman is a virgin at an older age, she will not be called an Almah. she will be called a betulah along with a young virgin. again, it's mistranslated and even the jews who translated Almah into virgin are 100% wrong.
@xanafanadu The fact remains, Jews all say that Isaiah meant virgin when he wrote the word almah. THEY would know best, not you, because it is THEIR language. If they say it means virgin in that context, THEN IT MEANS VIRGIN!
@DavidbarZeus1 hebrew is also my language. i'm fluent in hebrew and i've been learning it since i was 4. half of my classes are taugh in hebrew. ive been learning the Tanach in Hebrew since 2nd grade. i've had israeli teachers and american teachers who speak hebrew like an israeli. don't tell me it's not my language. and no, those translations are wrong. and how do you know that the greek christians didnt change the translation?
Do you agree that not a single Jew died during the Holocausts? Jew is a spiritual self and not a physical or the tribal self. Adam and his sons are Noble and those who are unfaithful to Abraham are the sons of Satan. Jesus could not be born of the Jews but the tribal people.
@xanafanadu I know they didn't change it because the oldest copy of Isaiah is virtually IDENTICAL. And okay, you obviously know Hebrew better than I do, BUT the Jews that translated the Tanakh into Greek knew BOTH languages and what words had the same meaning. 70 of them had to agree for them to be able to release it, and they translated almah as VIRGIN. This argument has been had many times before, by men far smarter than us, and they agreed that Isaiah meant virgin.
Get to the roots of the Principle. This Planet earth is for the habitation of the sons and daughters of Adam. If you become unfaithful to Adam, a Noble man, then you become a son of Satan. Would you live near a son of Satan?
So, it is Natural that the sons of Man, German, would kill the sons of Satan who are unfaithful to Abraham, a very Noble Man in line of Adam. British killed them when they were English and not Labour and Conservatives, the Tares.
@nijjhar1 What are you saying? That the Nazis were RIGHT to commit one of the worst atrocities of the twentieth century? If that IS what you're saying, then you are even worse than them.
@DavidbarZeus1 then the oldest copy of Isaiah was edited to meet the needs of the church. no real, intelligent, hebrew speaking jew would ever copy almah as a virgin, especially in this context.
Try to understand that when a person becomes a Jew of Physical self, then his covenant with Abraham is broken and he becomes unfaithful to Abraham, the Tare. By proclaiming that some one is the sons of Abraham is of no good once you become a Jew that is born and dies.
That is why Jesus was born of a Virgin. Holy spirit leads or over rules the written Books that are corruptible.
@xanafanadu You know something, forget it. I'm tired of trying to convince you because it's obvious you're not listening, even when I use Jews to do the convincing.
@DavidbarZeus1 Christ-ianity has NEVER been a sect of Judaism. Christianity revolves around the Son of God Jesus Christ who was born of a virgin + who lived as a Jew. Christ came 2 b a sacrifice 4 many once. It is sadly Jewish ppl who r yet 2 recognise their Saviour Jesus. Thanks b 2 God that Scripture shows that in the future there will b Jewish ppl who will recognise their Saviour + call on Him. Jesus shows that trying 2 live righteously doesn't save. Repentance + trust in Jesus does save...
@mcdinkity Not true. There were many myths about children of the gods, but every single one of them includes sex. The birth of Yeshua is the only one that claims a virgin birth.
@xanafanadu No, a virgin birth means that Mary was still a virgin when she gave birth to Yeshua. All the demigods of myth were born from sex, ie NO virgin births. To some it may seem similar, but they are not. God created the necessary genes in the egg that became Yeshua, he DIDN'T have sex with her.
@nijjhar1 Huh? Where on Earth did you get that idea? He was the son of Mary, born from 'the seed of a woman' as prophesied. Mary is the only mother Yeshua ever had. This idea that the Ruach HaKodesh was the 'mother of Yeshua' is completely unbiblical. Yeshua existed from before time began.
@DavidbarZeus1 the demigods of myth were born from sex because the people though their gods were in someway physical (for example, the Greeks believed that the gods lived on mt Olympus.) jews believe that G-d is in no way physical. therefore not having any physics needs therefore not taking part in anything physical like life or death. therefore not being able to die. therefore not having a family or children. families of deities (like gods having children) is a pagan belief and is blasphemy.
@DavidbarZeus1 im trying to say that god has no physical part to him what so ever. no son. no sex. he can't send down a son because he has no son. saying that god and jesus are the same is contradictory because god is spiritual and jesus is physical. if jesus is god, he can't die. god can't ever die. i know that's a confusing concept to most christians, but in judaism, god can't have a son. it doesn't flow. he's not mentioned anywhere in the entire tanach and why would he be hinted to in Isaiah?
@xanafanadu If Yeshua is merely physical, then explain the many times when the Angel of the Lord appears, the people he appears to say that they will die "because we have seen God." That is what Christians call an epiphany-Yeshua appearing on Earth BEFORE Yeshua bar Mary was born. Also, in Genesis, God says "Let US make man in OUR image." Or how God is referred to as Elohim a PLURAL of El. If that isn't proof for the trinity in the Tanakh, I don't know how to persuade you otherwise.
@DavidbarZeus1 the bible speaks in the language of man. when ever it says that god appears, it means that god is in their midst. the angel of the lord is NOT god. they belong to god, hence the use of the word "of". when god says "let us make man in our image," us is referring to the angels, to teach people that people need to get help from others and to have humility and so to with Elo-him- Elo-him is plural because just like a king says "we",plural, when speaking about himself, so does god.
@xanafanadu Micah 5:2- But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are small among the thousands of Judah, yet out of you shall come he who is to be a ruler over Israel, whose origins are from of old, from everlasting.
@xanafanadu Micah 5:2- But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are small among the thousands of Judah, yet out of you shall come he who is to be a ruler over Israel, whose origins are from of old, from everlasting.
@xanafanadu As a Christian i would disagree with u. I believe (although it isn't explicit) that one of the members of the trinity is talking 2 the other members of the trinity. Anyway, it's more important 2 repent of sin + receive Jesus Christ as Lord + Saviour who is promised in ISAIAH 9:6-7...
@DavidbarZeus1 the demigods of myth were born from sex because the people though their gods were in someway physical (for example, the Greeks believed that the gods lived on mt Olympus.) jews believe that G-d is in no way physical. therefore not having any physical needs therefore not taking part in anything physical like life or death. therefore not being able to die. therefore not having a family or children. families of deities (like gods having children) is a pagan belief and is blasphemy.
"Born of a Virgin" relates to stellar allignment at the time of Jesus birth, which did not occur in Bethlehem. It also relates to his second birth. "Mary" was not his mother, she was 'the woman".
His first birth was as one of two surviving scions to the line of Antiochus. The other survivor was James. His tribe was based at Nimrut Dag. His philosophical tribe...of the line of D(r)avid. Jesus, a man, alligning with the Living Christ (as old as the creation of the world).
@abbesieyes Where did you get that idea? And where in the world is Nimrut Dag? A Jew (like Yeshua) would consider it an insult to be called a descendant of Antiochus the Madman. And when the Bible says 'born of a virgin' they mean it LITERALLY. And that last part DEFINATELY sounds like Gnosticism.
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@nijjhar1 there is no such thing as "Mohammedan", it was just one of those words the colonial powers used to describe us. We do not worship Christ nor Muhammad so we are neither Christian nor Mohammedan. Muhammad conveyed the eternal idea of Tawheed (oneness) of God very clear and without confusion.
@DanialWali Really? The way I undestood it was Mohammedan was a European name for you as followers of the teachings of Muhammed, not worshipers of Muhammed.
@XxAbaadyxX i heard that mohommad the profit had many wives and concubines mind you children and his last wife at his age of 54 was (defloured at 9 its pedophilia,but had heis eye from age 6 he was going to take is sickkand no god would say a man will get virgins its so twisted god isnt about lust,its clearly a man writings,,wake up.
@lynnej1970 You "heard" incorrectly. The biblical prophet Isaac married Rebekka at a very young age. In ancient semetic regions, women were married early as per the custom, Pretty much none of his wives were young or virgins, he married many times to cement relations with the surrounding Arabian tribes to spread Islam. Why would no God say no men get virgins? What's wrong with you? The point of Heaven is to fulfill our desires that God has forbid us in this world. Unless you are not into women.
@DanialWali i heard incorrectly i usually dont take a few comments i usually study it,,id heard that so many times ok,,i am just trying to learn ok.and im not into women cos i am a woman.i will read the koran if i can get it unchanged (as many have been all religions )and in english.ppl refer themselves be religious yet they then treat other ppl that may make an error like really horrible that is far from being godly.
@nijjhar1 There r only 1 Holy Scriptures: the Inspired Word of God the Bible. God the Holy Spirit is the author + the one who inspired men 2 write God's Word. There4 Scripture + God the Holy Spirit r the same!!! Those who repent of sin +call on Jesus as their Saviour can ask + receive God the Holy Spirit who indwells believers: JOHN 14:1-26. Those who read God's Word but refuse 2 repent of sin r not able 2 comprehend Scripture: 2 TIMOTHY 3:1-7.
@DanialWali Unless u repent of sin + receive Jesus as ur Lord + Saviour u won't c Heaven. God's Inspired Word the Bible states that those who r accepted by Jesus Christ the Judge, will serve God. We won't b serving our own appetites as Muslims believe. The koran is a satanic counterfeit 2 the Word of God. God's Word says Jesus is the only way. The koran denies this. Jesus Says He died 4 all sinners on the cross. The koran denies this. Jesus says He is the Son of God. The koran denies this.
Remember that those nails were critical for the story. Without them how could the world been so effectively ridden of all sins, past, present and comming. The death of a martyr shouldn't be to simple. Let's throw som nails in.
(con't) We establish in 4:157 and 160 other Quran Sarah's that Allah is a DECEIVER (the greatest schemer) and leads people astray, sends them to hell.(sounds like satan).
We have great records of the crucifiction of Jesus, original manuscripts written in the time of Jesus. Many secular historians from the time record the crucifixion.The Quran says Jesus is with out sin. WOW!
Ironically allah takes Jesus but lets mohammad die a sad depressed death and lets him sit in a dirt box? LOL!
Thanks. I am not a follower. I study, research and question everything. I have studied the Bible for 25 yrs as a serious adult student of the Bible and the quran for the last 5 years, including the hadith. I have made my own video as well. Thanks.
"We have great records of the crucifiction of Jesus, original manuscripts written in the time of Jesus. Many secular historians from the time record the crucifixion.The Quran says Jesus is with out sin. WOW!" Who has such records and are they pubic, if not why?
It's not my job to teach you because you're ignorant. Do you have a google deficiency? I hate to reference Quran because it's a joke of historical, scientific errors, contradictions, nonsense, evil and plagiarism, but it says Jesus was born of a Virgin, Sinless, Performed Miracles and was Resurrected to Heaven after death! WOW! The documents I'm referring to are the ORIGINAL Biblical manuscripts DATING to the time of Jesus (before, during and after) plus secular historical accounts. LOOK IT UP.
The secular Historical accounts are less than impressive!! As far as your "claims" that you have Original Biblical manuscripts-that's all you have supplied thus far-claims! People lie all the time on the net! Unless you support what you say, it's another lie to me!
The only one that comes close is that written by josephus and he has been documented to be a very deceitful man who for example wrote that the fortress of massada was built with marmol....all others have proven to be forgeries
Biblical Manuscripts: Magdalene Ms (Matthew 26) 1st century John Rylands (John) 90 AD Bodmer Papyrus II (John) 90 AD Chester Beatty Papyri (N.T.) Diatessaron by Tatian (Gospels) Codex Vaticanus (Bible) Codex Sinaiticus (Bible) Codex Alexandrinus (Bible) Total manuscripts = 50,000 copies THIS IS JUST NEW TESTAMENT, THE OLD TESTAMENT WE HAVE Hebrew Torah, Qumran manuscripts (the "Dead Sea Scrolls"), relics from the Cairo Genizah and Isaiah and Samuel scrolls. Quran? HA HA HA HA
Quran? (youtube paste "=id" into YT search) >Corrupted before Caliph Uthman =DUWOBBWtC8g >Quran plagiarizes Thomas =KICeC9UUlRs >The origins of the Koran and Islam =O5R_-0UO4fs >The history of how Quran came to be =b1yxtag7v4s >Proof Qaran different from the original =z8RJaJbKog4 >ISLAM AND THE WEST, part 1 =X1AGitCGlns
If you read the quran (for a good laugh or to see what evil is) the only comment about the Crucifiction of Jesus is 4:157, there are no commentaries in hadiths. It says ALLAH TRICKED the people into thinking they had crucified Jesus, 4:158 says Allah took Jesus up into himself?
OK LETS FOLLOW THIS. Allah TRICKS the faithful into thinking Jesus was crucified and resurrected to heaven. Than comes back 600 yrs later through an "angel of light" (gabriel or satan) to say I tricked you? (con't)
Islam is a death cult whose demonic prophet, Mohammed, lived a life of pediphilia and butchery. If you want to follow the teachings of a pedaphile then be ready to reap condemnation.
Jesus, the perfect sacrifice, is God and He is coming back to judge, so I hope that God will grant you a new heart, which will enable you to repent.
1Cor 15:45 "The first Adam became a living soul; the last (second) Adam became a life-giving spirit. The first is from Earth, the second is from heaven. We have borne the image of the man of dust but....
Luke 3:38 "Adam son of God". So Adam was the first (created) son of God but
we must be the image of (like) Christ, the begotten son of God, to be righteous.
You make good comments on history, including the debunking of some tricky little falsehoods, but the biggest falsehood to ever afflict the world is that Jesus is the son of God. Nothing has done more damage to the world than monotheism--especially Christianity.
I didn't know that Indians were Christian. I guess that happened because the English invaded India, stole their crown jewels and converted the population. Remember "Christians put the fiction into Crucifiction".
Hi there. I found this account closed but, i write this for the information of others.
Christianity in India is as old as Christianity on earth. The belief was brought to India in soon after the crucifixion of Christ, by his Apostle, St. Thomas, where he traveled from Kodungaloor, southern india to the himalayas in the north. Also, he became Martyr in Mylapore. That mean Christianity has a 2000 year legacy in India.
the caste system has been around the sikh religion for many years, even guru nanak dev ji himself married his children in the caste system. however we may see a change within this.. we just dont know.
excuse me... but the teacher of sikhs... guru nanak dev ji said that we are not to believe in the caste system or as u said "hide behind your tribal link with your ancestors".
i understand that some sikhs do indeed do this but these are the disillusioned ones, who are NOT following our religion correctly so i dont redeem worthy of our religion.
i on the other hand do not care about my ansestors... and hence am NOT a son of satan.
There was no such thing a the virgin birth & is not biblical. The Roman Church turned the narrative into a virgin birth myth because it was trying to convert & dealing with a pagan public that were familiar with virgin birth stories. In fact the lineage of Jesus is there in Mathew & verifies that Jesus is of Joseph's seed, & also implies that Joseph impregnated Mary before marriage, which to a church obsessed with purity, chastity etc. changed the interpretation & facts.
asherasator 7 months ago
The teachings of Jesus....ALL men to Rishi's.
Not a line of David...a line of D(r)avid.
Abraham...brhmn. A brahman.
Fallen western priesthoods, plying an age old trade on the ignorance of the common man. There has been no 'new' 'religion' since the birth of the cosmos.
abbesieyes 10 months ago
This is genuine prophecy from God: 2PETER 1:20-21. Anything else is false + satanically inspired or man-made.
The3in1trinity 10 months ago
'Prophesy' is divination. All valid practitioners of 'religion' (faith and gospel), using proper 'scripture' (word) can still 'prophesy'. One of the primary lies of the western 'bible' and hebrew 'torah' is that there are no more prophets, and specifically none outside of their 'church'. Prophets are derided in their time, because truth is bitter to the newly awakened.
An offshoot of the vedic teachings in that part of the world...the righteous...the Essenes...and still very wattered down.
abbesieyes 1 year ago
@abbesieyes When you start preaching, then God gives you more in spirit and you can discern the Truth from lies.
Holy Books are dead Letters made living in christ within your own heart like the Rabbis used to have the knowledge of Oral Torah or had christs in their hearts.
nijjhar1 1 year ago
@nijjhar1 "Letters Made Living In Christ"...not without knowledge of "The Woman".
I preach every time I post. The only valid 'preaching', exposition of Truth to the benefit of all Men. The Ancient Christianism has nothing to do with the current fallen thing called 'Christianity'.
Once Word is removed from verbalization at proper tone and cadence, and placed upon a page...fallen priesthoods may have their way.
abbesieyes 1 year ago
@abbesieyes There is no such thing as a Western Bible. The Bible is the Inspired Word of God. Jesus Christ finished the work His Father sent Him 2 do: Preach the kingdom of God, repentance, dying on the cross 4 all sinners + rising from the dead thereby defeating death.Have u repented of ur sins + accepted Jesus as ur personal Saviour as He says u must do? If u want 2 b wise my friend then u need 2 repent + believe in Jesus the Son of God. Human knowledge is no substitute 4 repentance...
The3in1trinity 10 months ago
"Holy Spirit is better than Scriptures."
That is only true if you define what you mean by Holy Spirit and what you mean by Scripture.
Valid Scripture would be a direct representation of Holy Spirit...but it must work across all of reality to be deemed valid "scripture".
There is only One Law.
abbesieyes 1 year ago
All men are 'born of the Virgin', as 'the Virgin' is Gods form on earth and that which maintains form in reality.
Sin is merely error and Satan, merely the application of error unto death.
'As I have done, so too will you do'
"It has served us well this myth of Christ." Fallen priesthoods, feeding on the ignorant.
abbesieyes 1 year ago
@abbesieyes ROMANS 1:16-32. U would b wise 2 listen 2 the words of Jesus Christ b4 u dismiss what He says. Human wisdom is no match 4 repentance + believing in Jesus the Saviour of the world. Jesus warns that there will b a Judgement + He will b the Judge. We don't get another chance 2 repent after this life is over. Ask God 2 show u who He is + y He sent His Son 4 our sakes. Scripture shows that many r not going 2 listen even though ppl know they r sinners. Follow the Saviour not men...
The3in1trinity 10 months ago
@The3in1trinity hI,
The present Christianity is of the antichrists dog-collared hirelings of Mammon. No common sense. Why call Jesus a Lord when He came to set us FREE and serve?
nijjhar1 10 months ago
@The3in1trinity The "living christ" is not a 'he', it is a form. Jesus the man is long dead and gone. This 'life' never ends. It merely recurses. Do sell your error to someone not aware of first causes.
abbesieyes 10 months ago
@abbesieyes Jesus the Son of God who is God in the flesh is a person + a "He". Jesus was crucified, died + was buried + rose again on the 3rd day + now sits with God His Father in Heaven. I go by every word of the Inspired Word of God the Bible. 2 the ignorant such as urself Jesus is as myth but 2 repentant sinners such as myself He is alive + will return again just as Scripture states. U clearly have never read or understood Scripture if u think Jesus the Saviour is a myth. Read God's Word.
The3in1trinity 10 months ago
The majority of 'Orthodox Jews' went along to go along, as they were,
1. Duped into believing that what was being established was a Hebrew Nation.
2.. Felt that even if they disagreed with the Zionists, that the people going to Palestine needed religious guidance.
3. Pitiful scholars.
It is to be noted that not all Orthodox agreed with the Zionists and that the Zionists killed some of them as an example. A few clung to the correct path of not following the masses into perdition.
abbesieyes 1 year ago
Nijhar is one of Romes Companio, aren't you Nijhar?
A willing slave of that which lost at Rama Setu....a true evil. "Man eaters".
abbesieyes 1 year ago
The so-called German 'sons of man' were actually Austrian. The core of the Nazi movement seeded into German politics was Austrian Roman Catholic, almost to a man.
Almost to a man, their enablers were Roman Catholic. Von Papen, Klass, the Krupp von Bohlen und Halbach...all organized by the Jesuit under FR Ledochowski SJ. They were aided and abetted by those who had long ago ceased to be Hebrew, but still had some regional names attached to them...the Companio.
abbesieyes 1 year ago
The Vatican established 'Israel' through its proxy the UN. Bea and Fulton Sheen lobbied hard in that body for the establishment when they weren't whipping up the Red Scare, while the 'official stance' of the Vatican was a plausibly deniable 'non possumus'.
Romes 'Companio', in the form of the so-called 'Zionist' hierarchy (Wittgenstein, Rothschild, Herzl, Warburg, etc etc etc) led the effort.
The roman thralls on googles conditioningtube need to get a better education.
abbesieyes 1 year ago
Khristos=Word
First Word, Sanskrit.
First Writing, Vedanta.
Eastern Rite, Virgin, etc etc etc...all found in First Causes/Primum Mobil...and it came to the West via the Gymnos Sophiste.
Siddhartha Gautama did not found 'Buddhism'...a fallen priesthood did after his death. His writings specifically denounce becoming attached to any conception unless you have proven it to yourself...via Faith. Faith in sanskrit is Reason.
The middle way...through Mystery.
abbesieyes 1 year ago
To say that "Jew" is a spiritual self is only a half truth. All manu is a spiritual self.
That fallen priesthoods keep those adhering to their half-truths blinded is part in parcel with the current Age. That does not imply that the common people are bound in Tares...but the fallen priesthoods and their sycophants/thugs most certainly are.
"It has served us well, this myth of Christ." A Pope.
abbesieyes 1 year ago
Fallen priesthoods establish division where there is only unity.
There is no real difference between 'Judah-ism', or the knowledge of that which called itself 'Egypt', or the knowledge of that which called itself 'Greek Mythology', or the knowledge of the Orthodox 'Christians', or the knowledge of the 'Gnostics'. The forms are simply renamed via euphamism.
The has been no new Law since the birth of the cosmos, and so there may be no 'different' religions. Faith = Reason. Sanskrit.
abbesieyes 1 year ago
Many Jews died in the Holocaust.
They had to die so that Rome could re-establish its Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem, via the Zionists.
The 'Zionist' hierarchy...descendants of those who never left Pharoahs side, then sided with the Hellenists, then with the offshoots of the Ptolemy's, then with Roma. Wittgentsteins, Rothchilds, etc. They targeted the Orthodox Jews of the East who would not abide the establishment of a ghetto in "Palestine".
abbesieyes 1 year ago
@abbesieyes What are you talkin about? The Vatican is one of the countries that vehemently REFUSED to support the rebirth of Israel. As to the Holocaust, HITLER was the one who was behind the Holocaust-an attempt to annihilate ALL 'undesirables,' especially Jews. He didn't care if they were Orthodox, practicing, or 'Hellenized' Jews, he wanted them ALL dead. Also, many Orthodox Jews supported Zionism.
DavidbarZeus1 1 year ago
As to your objection about the Ahaz fulfillment, xanafandu, many prophecies are fulfilled TWICE, once near the time it was given, once in the far future. The Messianic Jew Arnold Fruchtenbaum says that verse is one example. Part of it was to just Ahaz, but it was also to "the House of David." Why would such a prophecy be to the ENTIRE house of David if it would be fulfilled in Ahaz's lifetime? Also, even Orthodox Jews say it is a Messianic prophecy.
DavidbarZeus1 1 year ago
Once born of woman, twice born of intellect, thrice born of 'the Virgin'.
Jesus, if he ever existed, was of the line of D(r)avid, or Dravidic teachings. Roma hides her true parent via the euphamism "Eastern Rite". Khristos brings Awareness to the common man, and fallen priesthoods always target Khristos.
Jesus, always a man (never a God) and never seperated from 'The Woman' from birth through death.
'As I have done, so too will you do...and greater things than these.'
abbesieyes 1 year ago
Ancient greek language...the closest to First Causes, due to their contact with the Gymnos Sophistes. <--- Ancient vedic holy men, whose ascetecism forbade them even clothing.
xanafanadu's statements regarding what the ancients of any culture 'thought' regarding 'gods'...falacy.
abbesieyes 1 year ago
English via latin and polyglot of languages gives 'Faith, Hope, Charity.'
Sanskrit gives for each of those words, in order, 'Reason, Labor, Bridegroom.'
Some of that which was defeated at Rama Setu escaped and built 'Egypt'.
'Egypt' was split via civil war and the rebels called 'Judah'.
'Egypt' migrated to "Roma" (name of a stolen bride), and still kills off 'Judah' whenever it can.
However, both are the fallen priesthoods of the west...man eaters plying a trade upon temple steps.
abbesieyes 1 year ago
davidbarzeus and xanafanadu: roman sockpuppets on googles conditioningtube, diverting to nothings.
There is no 'literalism' in either OT or NT. They are, when not discussing Astronomy and science, speaking in metaphor relating to Eastern Rite, Mystery and Primum Mobil. When they are not doing any of the afformentioned, they are telling fairy tales to keep man in a fallen state, using language designed to that end.
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abbesieyes 1 year ago
@abbesieyes Then explain how many of the Tanakh's prophecies were LITERALLY fulfilled. For example-Ezekiel prophesied that Tyre would be completely destroyed-200 years later, Alexander the Great destroyed it EXACTLY the way Ezekiel predicted. Isaiah prophesied about Cyrus ordering the rebuilding of Jerusalem BY NAME-300 years later, Cyrus fulfilled it. Yeshua and Daniel prophesied the destruction of Jerusalem, 40 years after Yeshua and 500 years after Daniel, Rome destroyed it.
DavidbarZeus1 1 year ago
@DavidbarZeus1 Astronomy....Calendar....Time. A portion of Divinity is the methodology of divination (prophesy) via Faith. Sanskrit for Faith....Reason. Science...an organization of data.
That which was the past, is the present, and will be the future.
abbesieyes 1 year ago
@abbesieyes Hey, you do realize that A:Jews don't practice divination, and B:The only one of those people who'd have had any chance at all to run across Indians is Yeshua, right?
DavidbarZeus1 1 year ago
You, sir, sound like a Gnostic, a belief system that should have died out long ago. When people called Yeshua the Son of David, they were calling him the Messiah, not someone like David in spirit. And what is wrong with what Israel is doing? They are simply doing their best to defend themselves from terrorists.
DavidbarZeus1 1 year ago
Mohommaaaaddddddddddd lawd lol
Dooley721 1 year ago
"The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus by the Supreme Being as his father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter." Thomas Jefferson, 1823.
donlaxner 1 year ago
why wasn't jesus born from a man? that sounds more like a miracle to me.. mary was only a whore who claimed she was a virgin and joseph was too much of a fag to have sex with her or was very gullible that she was a virgin. virgin my ass!
xanafanadu 1 year ago
@xanafanadu Obviously you don't know much about the times they lived in. Mary was fourteen at the most, and already betrothed to Yosef/Joseph. If she was found to have had sex with a man before her marriage, she could have been stoned to death. Also, the virgin birth was the fulfillment of a prophecy made about 700 years before the birth of Yeshua. Isaiah 7:14-A virgin shall concieve and bear a son. And SHE shall call his name Immanuel (which means God with us.)
DavidbarZeus1 1 year ago
@DavidbarZeus1 this "virgin" was mistranslated. in hebrew, the word in the verse is הָעַלְמָה, which means a young woman. whenever the bible speaks about a virgin, it uses the term בתולה. the christian bible is full of mistranslations. it's best to study the old testament in it's original form, hebrew, to really understand it. these mistranslations lead to mistakes like yours. the verse was not speaking about a virgin in any way possible.
xanafanadu 1 year ago
@xanafanadu Believe me, I know my Hebrew, and the while the word may not translate directly to virgin, it explicity means a virgin or implies it. Also, the Jews who translated the Tanakh (Old Testament) into Greek used the word Parthenos for almah-a Greek word that DEFINATELY translates to virgin. Do your research next time, and you won't get caught up in an OLD, settled argument.
DavidbarZeus1 1 year ago
@DavidbarZeus1 it doesn't matter what the greek meaning is. it's still wrong. if you go to google translate (the only common dictionary between us) and you type in young woman, you will get עלמה and צעירה. if you type in a virgin, you will get בתולה. even in the context of the verse, the sign is meant for Ahaz, not for the distant future.
xanafanadu 1 year ago
@xanafanadu Once again, if you read the Tanakh in Hebrew, you would always find it in the context of a woman young enough that she is OBVIOUSLY a virgin, so while it literally translates to 'young woman' it can also translate to 'virgin'. And I brought up the Septuagint because JEWS translated it, which means they would know what Greek words to use. And when they translated that verse in Isaiah, they used Parthenos-'virgin.'
DavidbarZeus1 1 year ago
@DavidbarZeus1 no, women got married at age 12 back then. in fact, girls were allowed to be married off at age 9. some say even 3. and just because it's a translation,doesn't mean it's the correct one. if the torah wanted to say virgin-end of story. the torah uses Alma to indicate that although the woman is pregnant, she's obviously young and she's not a virgin.
xanafanadu 1 year ago
@xanafanadu Some cultures, maybe. But remember that this is JEWISH culture we're talking about. Jews would not get engaged until at least 12 years old. And that last part is crazy, almah being used to describe a young pregnant woman. David Stern, a Jewish Bible commentator says "Almah always refers to an unmarried woman of good reputation." The Bible uses almah for Rebecca in Gen 24:16 (before she met Yitzach,) and young Mary sister of Moshe in Exodus 2:8. Again, this is a settled argument
DavidbarZeus1 1 year ago
@DavidbarZeus1 Almah describes the young woman's age, like Elem (male) is describing a young man's age, not a virgin. if a woman is a virgin at an older age, she will not be called an Almah. she will be called a betulah along with a young virgin. again, it's mistranslated and even the jews who translated Almah into virgin are 100% wrong.
xanafanadu 1 year ago
@xanafanadu The fact remains, Jews all say that Isaiah meant virgin when he wrote the word almah. THEY would know best, not you, because it is THEIR language. If they say it means virgin in that context, THEN IT MEANS VIRGIN!
DavidbarZeus1 1 year ago
@DavidbarZeus1 hebrew is also my language. i'm fluent in hebrew and i've been learning it since i was 4. half of my classes are taugh in hebrew. ive been learning the Tanach in Hebrew since 2nd grade. i've had israeli teachers and american teachers who speak hebrew like an israeli. don't tell me it's not my language. and no, those translations are wrong. and how do you know that the greek christians didnt change the translation?
xanafanadu 1 year ago
@xanafanadu Hi Brother,
Do you agree that not a single Jew died during the Holocausts? Jew is a spiritual self and not a physical or the tribal self. Adam and his sons are Noble and those who are unfaithful to Abraham are the sons of Satan. Jesus could not be born of the Jews but the tribal people.
nijjhar1 1 year ago
@xanafanadu I know they didn't change it because the oldest copy of Isaiah is virtually IDENTICAL. And okay, you obviously know Hebrew better than I do, BUT the Jews that translated the Tanakh into Greek knew BOTH languages and what words had the same meaning. 70 of them had to agree for them to be able to release it, and they translated almah as VIRGIN. This argument has been had many times before, by men far smarter than us, and they agreed that Isaiah meant virgin.
DavidbarZeus1 1 year ago
@DavidbarZeus1 Hi Brother,
Get to the roots of the Principle. This Planet earth is for the habitation of the sons and daughters of Adam. If you become unfaithful to Adam, a Noble man, then you become a son of Satan. Would you live near a son of Satan?
So, it is Natural that the sons of Man, German, would kill the sons of Satan who are unfaithful to Abraham, a very Noble Man in line of Adam. British killed them when they were English and not Labour and Conservatives, the Tares.
nijjhar1 1 year ago
@nijjhar1 What are you saying? That the Nazis were RIGHT to commit one of the worst atrocities of the twentieth century? If that IS what you're saying, then you are even worse than them.
DavidbarZeus1 1 year ago
@DavidbarZeus1 then the oldest copy of Isaiah was edited to meet the needs of the church. no real, intelligent, hebrew speaking jew would ever copy almah as a virgin, especially in this context.
xanafanadu 1 year ago
@xanafanadu Please, at the time, Christianity was still a heavily persecuted sect of Judaism. And what's wrong with vigin in that context?
DavidbarZeus1 1 year ago
@DavidbarZeus1 Brother,
Try to understand that when a person becomes a Jew of Physical self, then his covenant with Abraham is broken and he becomes unfaithful to Abraham, the Tare. By proclaiming that some one is the sons of Abraham is of no good once you become a Jew that is born and dies.
That is why Jesus was born of a Virgin. Holy spirit leads or over rules the written Books that are corruptible.
nijjhar1 1 year ago
@nijjhar1 Shut up, I'm not going to argue with YOU because you make absolutely no sense at all. Where on earth did you get these crazy ideas?
DavidbarZeus1 1 year ago
@DavidbarZeus1 Virgin in that context (or in any context in the bible or even in everyday speech) is wrong because it's a mistranslation.
xanafanadu 1 year ago
@xanafanadu You know something, forget it. I'm tired of trying to convince you because it's obvious you're not listening, even when I use Jews to do the convincing.
DavidbarZeus1 1 year ago
@DavidbarZeus1 Christ-ianity has NEVER been a sect of Judaism. Christianity revolves around the Son of God Jesus Christ who was born of a virgin + who lived as a Jew. Christ came 2 b a sacrifice 4 many once. It is sadly Jewish ppl who r yet 2 recognise their Saviour Jesus. Thanks b 2 God that Scripture shows that in the future there will b Jewish ppl who will recognise their Saviour + call on Him. Jesus shows that trying 2 live righteously doesn't save. Repentance + trust in Jesus does save...
The3in1trinity 10 months ago
there was loads of gods that had virgin births in them days
mcdinkity 1 year ago
@mcdinkity Not true. There were many myths about children of the gods, but every single one of them includes sex. The birth of Yeshua is the only one that claims a virgin birth.
DavidbarZeus1 1 year ago
@DavidbarZeus1 virgin birth, gods having sex with humans, same thing
xanafanadu 1 year ago
@xanafanadu No, a virgin birth means that Mary was still a virgin when she gave birth to Yeshua. All the demigods of myth were born from sex, ie NO virgin births. To some it may seem similar, but they are not. God created the necessary genes in the egg that became Yeshua, he DIDN'T have sex with her.
DavidbarZeus1 1 year ago
@DavidbarZeus1 Jesus was born with the Power of Holy Spirit, our Mother. Mother of Jesus was Holy Spirit and nor Mary.
nijjhar1 1 year ago
@nijjhar1 Huh? Where on Earth did you get that idea? He was the son of Mary, born from 'the seed of a woman' as prophesied. Mary is the only mother Yeshua ever had. This idea that the Ruach HaKodesh was the 'mother of Yeshua' is completely unbiblical. Yeshua existed from before time began.
DavidbarZeus1 1 year ago
@DavidbarZeus1 the demigods of myth were born from sex because the people though their gods were in someway physical (for example, the Greeks believed that the gods lived on mt Olympus.) jews believe that G-d is in no way physical. therefore not having any physics needs therefore not taking part in anything physical like life or death. therefore not being able to die. therefore not having a family or children. families of deities (like gods having children) is a pagan belief and is blasphemy.
xanafanadu 1 year ago
@xanafanadu Translation please? What are you saying here?
DavidbarZeus1 1 year ago
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@DavidbarZeus1 im trying to say that god has no physical part to him what so ever. no son. no sex. he can't send down a son because he has no son. saying that god and jesus are the same is contradictory because god is spiritual and jesus is physical. if jesus is god, he can't die. god can't ever die. i know that's a confusing concept to most christians, but in judaism, god can't have a son. it doesn't flow. he's not mentioned anywhere in the entire tanach and why would he be hinted to in Isaiah?
xanafanadu 1 year ago
@xanafanadu If Yeshua is merely physical, then explain the many times when the Angel of the Lord appears, the people he appears to say that they will die "because we have seen God." That is what Christians call an epiphany-Yeshua appearing on Earth BEFORE Yeshua bar Mary was born. Also, in Genesis, God says "Let US make man in OUR image." Or how God is referred to as Elohim a PLURAL of El. If that isn't proof for the trinity in the Tanakh, I don't know how to persuade you otherwise.
DavidbarZeus1 1 year ago
@DavidbarZeus1 the bible speaks in the language of man. when ever it says that god appears, it means that god is in their midst. the angel of the lord is NOT god. they belong to god, hence the use of the word "of". when god says "let us make man in our image," us is referring to the angels, to teach people that people need to get help from others and to have humility and so to with Elo-him- Elo-him is plural because just like a king says "we",plural, when speaking about himself, so does god.
xanafanadu 1 year ago
@xanafanadu And what about when Micah says that the Messiah's origins are "from of old, from everlasting"
DavidbarZeus1 1 year ago
@DavidbarZeus1 What is the verse? I haven't memorized the entire Bible yet.
xanafanadu 1 year ago
@xanafanadu Micah 5:2- But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are small among the thousands of Judah, yet out of you shall come he who is to be a ruler over Israel, whose origins are from of old, from everlasting.
DavidbarZeus1 1 year ago
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@xanafanadu Micah 5:2- But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are small among the thousands of Judah, yet out of you shall come he who is to be a ruler over Israel, whose origins are from of old, from everlasting.
DavidbarZeus1 1 year ago
@xanafanadu As a Christian i would disagree with u. I believe (although it isn't explicit) that one of the members of the trinity is talking 2 the other members of the trinity. Anyway, it's more important 2 repent of sin + receive Jesus Christ as Lord + Saviour who is promised in ISAIAH 9:6-7...
The3in1trinity 10 months ago
@DavidbarZeus1 the demigods of myth were born from sex because the people though their gods were in someway physical (for example, the Greeks believed that the gods lived on mt Olympus.) jews believe that G-d is in no way physical. therefore not having any physical needs therefore not taking part in anything physical like life or death. therefore not being able to die. therefore not having a family or children. families of deities (like gods having children) is a pagan belief and is blasphemy.
xanafanadu 1 year ago
Muhhamed...a wedge of Rome.
Islam...the all.
The vulgars in the Moslem faith...kept as much in the dark by their priests as those in the west are by theirs.
abbesieyes 1 year ago
"Born of a Virgin" relates to stellar allignment at the time of Jesus birth, which did not occur in Bethlehem. It also relates to his second birth. "Mary" was not his mother, she was 'the woman".
His first birth was as one of two surviving scions to the line of Antiochus. The other survivor was James. His tribe was based at Nimrut Dag. His philosophical tribe...of the line of D(r)avid. Jesus, a man, alligning with the Living Christ (as old as the creation of the world).
abbesieyes 1 year ago
@abbesieyes Where did you get that idea? And where in the world is Nimrut Dag? A Jew (like Yeshua) would consider it an insult to be called a descendant of Antiochus the Madman. And when the Bible says 'born of a virgin' they mean it LITERALLY. And that last part DEFINATELY sounds like Gnosticism.
DavidbarZeus1 1 year ago
whats the meaning of Mohammedan ??
Explain more plz
XxAbaadyxX 2 years ago
ur videos from 1 or 2 years ago but the views watched is very few .. cuz u r not muslim .. watch vedios islam and see the views all vedios of islam .. is very much Thousand and million people watched it , new muslims every day more and more .. islam is coming in all the world .. Rescue ur Soul before Death 4 Happy in Other life after Death .. please just read more of islam religon
XxAbaadyxX 2 years ago
Hi Brother,
I am a Muslim but not a Mohammedan.
nijjhar1 2 years ago
@nijjhar1 there is no such thing as "Mohammedan", it was just one of those words the colonial powers used to describe us. We do not worship Christ nor Muhammad so we are neither Christian nor Mohammedan. Muhammad conveyed the eternal idea of Tawheed (oneness) of God very clear and without confusion.
DanialWali 1 year ago
@DanialWali Really? The way I undestood it was Mohammedan was a European name for you as followers of the teachings of Muhammed, not worshipers of Muhammed.
DavidbarZeus1 1 year ago
@DavidbarZeus1 It was based on the misconception that Muslims worship Muhammad instead of Christ.
DanialWali 1 year ago
@DanialWali You worship Allah.
nijjhar1 1 year ago
@DanialWali Sorry, my mistake.
DavidbarZeus1 1 year ago
@XxAbaadyxX i heard that mohommad the profit had many wives and concubines mind you children and his last wife at his age of 54 was (defloured at 9 its pedophilia,but had heis eye from age 6 he was going to take is sickkand no god would say a man will get virgins its so twisted god isnt about lust,its clearly a man writings,,wake up.
lynnej1970 1 year ago
@lynnej1970 You "heard" incorrectly. The biblical prophet Isaac married Rebekka at a very young age. In ancient semetic regions, women were married early as per the custom, Pretty much none of his wives were young or virgins, he married many times to cement relations with the surrounding Arabian tribes to spread Islam. Why would no God say no men get virgins? What's wrong with you? The point of Heaven is to fulfill our desires that God has forbid us in this world. Unless you are not into women.
DanialWali 1 year ago
@DanialWali i heard incorrectly i usually dont take a few comments i usually study it,,id heard that so many times ok,,i am just trying to learn ok.and im not into women cos i am a woman.i will read the koran if i can get it unchanged (as many have been all religions )and in english.ppl refer themselves be religious yet they then treat other ppl that may make an error like really horrible that is far from being godly.
lynnej1970 1 year ago
@lynnej1970 Holy spirit is better than Scriptures.
nijjhar1 1 year ago
@nijjhar1 There r only 1 Holy Scriptures: the Inspired Word of God the Bible. God the Holy Spirit is the author + the one who inspired men 2 write God's Word. There4 Scripture + God the Holy Spirit r the same!!! Those who repent of sin +call on Jesus as their Saviour can ask + receive God the Holy Spirit who indwells believers: JOHN 14:1-26. Those who read God's Word but refuse 2 repent of sin r not able 2 comprehend Scripture: 2 TIMOTHY 3:1-7.
The3in1trinity 10 months ago
@DanialWali Unless u repent of sin + receive Jesus as ur Lord + Saviour u won't c Heaven. God's Inspired Word the Bible states that those who r accepted by Jesus Christ the Judge, will serve God. We won't b serving our own appetites as Muslims believe. The koran is a satanic counterfeit 2 the Word of God. God's Word says Jesus is the only way. The koran denies this. Jesus Says He died 4 all sinners on the cross. The koran denies this. Jesus says He is the Son of God. The koran denies this.
The3in1trinity 10 months ago
Sorry mate. You christians come to a lot of conclutions by "logical resoning".
The even simpler answer to the questin of virgin birth was to impress the simple minded mob of that time, and later.
Just like walking upon water.
Why would a divine beeing need those cojuror trixs?
SLORRIFJART321 2 years ago
you really "nailed" it, pun intended
FantasticMrDoc 2 years ago
Remember that those nails were critical for the story. Without them how could the world been so effectively ridden of all sins, past, present and comming. The death of a martyr shouldn't be to simple. Let's throw som nails in.
SLORRIFJART321 2 years ago
as in tv...tricks are for kids
FantasticMrDoc 2 years ago
(con't) We establish in 4:157 and 160 other Quran Sarah's that Allah is a DECEIVER (the greatest schemer) and leads people astray, sends them to hell.(sounds like satan).
We have great records of the crucifiction of Jesus, original manuscripts written in the time of Jesus. Many secular historians from the time record the crucifixion.The Quran says Jesus is with out sin. WOW!
Ironically allah takes Jesus but lets mohammad die a sad depressed death and lets him sit in a dirt box? LOL!
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
Hi Brother,
But you go by your own understanding and not to follow others. I have made Videos of my own understanding quoting the Bible to stress the point.
nijjhar1 2 years ago
Thanks. I am not a follower. I study, research and question everything. I have studied the Bible for 25 yrs as a serious adult student of the Bible and the quran for the last 5 years, including the hadith. I have made my own video as well. Thanks.
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
"We have great records of the crucifiction of Jesus, original manuscripts written in the time of Jesus. Many secular historians from the time record the crucifixion.The Quran says Jesus is with out sin. WOW!" Who has such records and are they pubic, if not why?
99minerkc 2 years ago
It's not my job to teach you because you're ignorant. Do you have a google deficiency? I hate to reference Quran because it's a joke of historical, scientific errors, contradictions, nonsense, evil and plagiarism, but it says Jesus was born of a Virgin, Sinless, Performed Miracles and was Resurrected to Heaven after death! WOW! The documents I'm referring to are the ORIGINAL Biblical manuscripts DATING to the time of Jesus (before, during and after) plus secular historical accounts. LOOK IT UP.
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
The secular Historical accounts are less than impressive!! As far as your "claims" that you have Original Biblical manuscripts-that's all you have supplied thus far-claims! People lie all the time on the net! Unless you support what you say, it's another lie to me!
99minerkc 2 years ago
Secular Manuscripts of Biblical history:
Herodotus 480 - 425 BC
Thucydides 460 - 400 BC
Aristotle (Philosopher) 384 - 322 BC Caesar 100 - 44 BC
Pliny 61 - 113 AD
Suetonius (Roman History) 70 - 140 AD Tacitus (Greek History) 100 AD
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
The only one that comes close is that written by josephus and he has been documented to be a very deceitful man who for example wrote that the fortress of massada was built with marmol....all others have proven to be forgeries
FantasticMrDoc 2 years ago
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
More secular Biblical history:
- Caesar (History) 100 - 44 BC
- Tacitus (Greek History) 100 AD
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
are those notarized by the local miracle worker roman patent office or just from the indian market?. LOL
FantasticMrDoc 2 years ago
If you read the quran (for a good laugh or to see what evil is) the only comment about the Crucifiction of Jesus is 4:157, there are no commentaries in hadiths. It says ALLAH TRICKED the people into thinking they had crucified Jesus, 4:158 says Allah took Jesus up into himself?
OK LETS FOLLOW THIS. Allah TRICKS the faithful into thinking Jesus was crucified and resurrected to heaven. Than comes back 600 yrs later through an "angel of light" (gabriel or satan) to say I tricked you? (con't)
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
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PROUD2BAHMADI 2 years ago
Islam is a death cult whose demonic prophet, Mohammed, lived a life of pediphilia and butchery. If you want to follow the teachings of a pedaphile then be ready to reap condemnation.
Jesus, the perfect sacrifice, is God and He is coming back to judge, so I hope that God will grant you a new heart, which will enable you to repent.
AMWYESHUASAVESAMW 2 years ago
Great comment, you should read mine I posted above. Cheers
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
fuck you dog you shat shit son of a bitch
abzb23 3 years ago
People might take you a lot more seriously if you took that towel off your head.
perfecttimingNONO 3 years ago
gnostic is a SATANIST knolledge cause first create his own version of GOSPELS of the life of JESUS CHRIST
second HIS OWN INTERPRETATION influenced by demoniac forces
man please convert JESUS is all mercy
cublop 3 years ago
Yes. You are damn right but they are not blind folded like the Christians of the Book.
nijjhar1 3 years ago
it was proven that the "virgin birth" in the new testament is a mis translation from greek (where it was translated from)
there is alot of info proving this which makes this video VOID.
no one can ever understand religion if they dont bother to research where the ridiculous claims came from in the first place.
jassi4010709 3 years ago
oh and before i get any negative comments through a misunderstanding...
when i say this video is void,i mean because its trying to answer a belief which isnt true to begin with.
jassi4010709 3 years ago
virgin birth was in old testament too. is THAT also a mis translation??
nodoubt257 3 years ago
If you know Matt.13.v24-30, then you will understand why Jesus took a Virgin Birth.
nijjhar1 3 years ago
Thank you. That scripture helped very much.
nodoubt257 3 years ago
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@nodoubt257 Maybe this will help.
1Cor 15:45 "The first Adam became a living soul; the last (second) Adam became a life-giving spirit. The first is from Earth, the second is from heaven. We have borne the image of the man of dust but....
Luke 3:38 "Adam son of God". So Adam was the first (created) son of God but
we must be the image of (like) Christ, the begotten son of God, to be righteous.
yarrw 1 year ago
Christ Jesus is not a religion. Islam is a religion.
nodoubt257 3 years ago
@jassi4010709 You should take a look at my argument with xanafandu. We've gotten into quite the discussion about the 'mistranslation' of almah.
DavidbarZeus1 1 year ago
You make good comments on history, including the debunking of some tricky little falsehoods, but the biggest falsehood to ever afflict the world is that Jesus is the son of God. Nothing has done more damage to the world than monotheism--especially Christianity.
BloodeatingDespot 3 years ago
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OGRmack 3 years ago
wtf ????, confused, this guy spooks me out. are you a sikh or somethin else. yo you confison the sht outta me man.
fiorentinaviola03 3 years ago
I didn't know that Indians were Christian. I guess that happened because the English invaded India, stole their crown jewels and converted the population. Remember "Christians put the fiction into Crucifiction".
beesbop 3 years ago
Hi,
I am NOT A CHRISTIAN BUT A CHRIST.
nijjhar1 3 years ago
Oops Sorry.
beesbop 3 years ago
u are a christ like i am the pope.
777cata 3 years ago
No,you are NOT A CHRIST!There is ONLY ONE CHRIST,and that is JESUS!
Astrid270718 3 years ago 3
Hi there. I found this account closed but, i write this for the information of others.
Christianity in India is as old as Christianity on earth. The belief was brought to India in soon after the crucifixion of Christ, by his Apostle, St. Thomas, where he traveled from Kodungaloor, southern india to the himalayas in the north. Also, he became Martyr in Mylapore. That mean Christianity has a 2000 year legacy in India.
binoyjjohn 3 years ago 3
I have a question for you:Are you a Yoga?
Astrid270718 3 years ago
"Are you a Yoga?" great question, how can he be an entire discipline?
BloodeatingDespot 3 years ago
Thanks Sardar Jee for uploading the video I like it.
I am also fan of BABA GURU NANAK REHMATULLAH ALIAH
PROUD2BAHMADI 4 years ago
Hi,
I am a Jatt and a Chaudhry. Not a Sardar.
nijjhar1 4 years ago
the caste system has been around the sikh religion for many years, even guru nanak dev ji himself married his children in the caste system. however we may see a change within this.. we just dont know.
ACsunny 4 years ago
excuse me... but the teacher of sikhs... guru nanak dev ji said that we are not to believe in the caste system or as u said "hide behind your tribal link with your ancestors".
i understand that some sikhs do indeed do this but these are the disillusioned ones, who are NOT following our religion correctly so i dont redeem worthy of our religion.
i on the other hand do not care about my ansestors... and hence am NOT a son of satan.
please get your facts straightened out.
sicksingh 4 years ago
HOLY BEARD!!!!!!!!!!
bu11monkey 4 years ago
can you explain to me the meaning og gnostic please? you look like a sikh man? are you sikh?
ACsunny 4 years ago
omg thats exactally what i thought!!
the only reason i watched this was because he looked like a singh!
sicksingh 4 years ago
Are you jewish sir?
leonardo369 4 years ago
No. I am a gnostic and independent thinker.
nijjhar1 4 years ago