@saylrp As a Dutchman I always must laugh about this kind of comments. We in Holland have only just 100 years of experience. "...heavy chain-guard..."??? Well, there are no heavy chain-guards. And why should a simple, low-tech chain-guard, which exist in Holland on every bike for 100 years be absurd? "...just roll you you pant leg and get fenders...". Whahahahaha. My God, in what technological era do you live, in the middle ages???
These sorts of dutch city bike enthusiasts are worse than the snobbiest of roadies. Dutch city bikes are interesting and would appeal to certain people, but to claim that they are superior to other bikes or the savior of urban cycling is ridiculous. The discomfort of riding a slightly more aggressive posture is greatly exaggerated for most users, and the idea that you need a heavy chain-guard to wear regular clothes on a bike is absurd, just roll up you pant leg and get fenders/fenders.
Thanks so much for that Stevie. That's really encouraging. If you are near Sydney keep an eye open for that art show, bike art which I'm putting on, starting July 4th. It's ' all on the blog. I figure one way to promote the dutch style of riding, is to make interesting images. Thanks again, Mike.
By the way, people like you ask to link through youtube. i never reply being overloaded with massages.
Luv your videos Mike! They have persuaded me to take up riding again. I came back from Europe shocked at our high car reliance here in Aus, and yearning for a more bicycle friendly culture like Europe. Amsterdam was a big eye opener to how much better transport can be. Europe & europeans are much smarter than us Aussies.We're in a car trance & have no visionary politicians, it's a restrictive nanny state at the moment. I am happy to be part of a cycling resurgence for all aspects of life.
I love my Euro city bike.. Mine wieghs around 45 pounds with no cargo... My commute is ~7 miles and I bike it every day. On days it rains or the roads are icy, the Dutch city bike is riden. That bike has many upgrades, for carrying more cargo, better lights and a comfy springed saddle.
The only issue - American drives and little accommodations for non-motored travel.
im done listening to this gay fag who doesnt know what hes talking about, if u want a basket if u want mudguards then u simply buy them, they dont come stantard here, cos we use bikes more for leisure not for getting around, and if u sit up straight u create much more wind resitance.
@defiant18 Use your energies to argue better instead of just throwing around insults. I;m well aware why bikes don't come equipped with those things. Like you said, it's the leisure use What you ignore is that Australians have the largest carbon footprint in the world. If we used bikes for transport, like they do in Europe, that footprint could be reduced. I think that would be a good thing. Apparently you don't. Why?
@MikeRubbo, "defiant18" is an idiot. I use my bike daily for trips through town. I sit full upright, Dutch style. I will not use a helmet, not for fifty years now. I go 12 to 15 miles per hour, sometimes slower. No more road bikes or crouched posture for me. I like to sit upright and see the world. Cars give us respect, as we are not hunchbacked land-crabs on our bikes. My bike is a tool, transport, not a sweat or torture machine.
Just bought one of those beer crate carriers seen in Amsterdam.Just one of the best gagets ever opens up so many more uses. Can even do half weekly shop with it and that means another car journey not needed. the dutch have perfected the every day bike for use whenever and they did a hundred years ago.If you buy one bike for fun and function buy one of these
Some points, 1, I have a road bike and I do take it to the shops to do shopping. Speed does matter when you are going to work, shops because as the vehicle is faster it is more practical, without the problems of electric assist. Take a backpack, I Do.
2. Those old fashioned bikes suit some people, I should know I work on them. But you are suggesting that a road bike is only useful for "rides", which is false, as I can atest.
3. The picture of the Sydney cycling group did have upright bikes.
Point 4: Many types of bikes can be used for transport, all bikes are good, especially when used as a substitute for a car. As cyclists we should not get into the my bike is superior to yours business, we should be encouraging cycling in all its forms, particularly transport cycling.
"You'd never see a water bottle on a Dutch city bike" - to be quite fair, Australian conditions are much drier and hotter and I would hesitate to go for more than 2 or 3 km without having a water bottle.
I'd like to see the legal power limit for electric-assist bicycles increased to 250 Watts - in line with European and Japanese standards. I'd also like it to be law that the motor must cut-out at 30kph.
Video Mike and Gill Charlton have put out a compelling little video that delivers a strong message. You should also check out Bob Perry's piece called ultralocalcycling at scapestrategy website. Surely government investment in designing healthy cities will save the health budget millions. Rex.
Had my moment of conversion years ago in Amsterdam. These Granny bikes are great safe, comfortable, easy to cycle and just about the most plesent way to get round and urban landscape. Do Do try it
That was a really nice, to the point little documentry.
I'm one of the girls from Beauty and the bike in Darlington and I have to say its nice to hear we are not alone...Good luck with finding your teenage girls!
Great video Mike! I hope it shows people that cycling doesn't always have to be a race to the finish line.
People who cycle on weekends as a recreational activity are perfect candidates to you bicycles as active transportation for commuting to work during the week.
And you don't need a bloody shower if you take it slow!
As we have a range of motor vehicles, from pickup trucks to sports cars and everything in between so do we have road bike and more upright bikes, sport riders and utilitarian riders. I have an upright tandem & triplet bicycles for transporting my children and for myself solo, a Velomobile Quest. The tandem & triplet are for transportation of kids and shopping. Though my Quest can carry quite a bit, it is for one person, covering longer distances and going fast in comfort.
@saylrp As a Dutchman I always must laugh about this kind of comments. We in Holland have only just 100 years of experience. "...heavy chain-guard..."??? Well, there are no heavy chain-guards. And why should a simple, low-tech chain-guard, which exist in Holland on every bike for 100 years be absurd? "...just roll you you pant leg and get fenders...". Whahahahaha. My God, in what technological era do you live, in the middle ages???
TaoPiet 1 month ago
These sorts of dutch city bike enthusiasts are worse than the snobbiest of roadies. Dutch city bikes are interesting and would appeal to certain people, but to claim that they are superior to other bikes or the savior of urban cycling is ridiculous. The discomfort of riding a slightly more aggressive posture is greatly exaggerated for most users, and the idea that you need a heavy chain-guard to wear regular clothes on a bike is absurd, just roll up you pant leg and get fenders/fenders.
saylrp 1 month ago
Thanks so much for that Stevie. That's really encouraging. If you are near Sydney keep an eye open for that art show, bike art which I'm putting on, starting July 4th. It's ' all on the blog. I figure one way to promote the dutch style of riding, is to make interesting images. Thanks again, Mike.
By the way, people like you ask to link through youtube. i never reply being overloaded with massages.
What's the point, actually? Mike
MikeRubbo 9 months ago
Luv your videos Mike! They have persuaded me to take up riding again. I came back from Europe shocked at our high car reliance here in Aus, and yearning for a more bicycle friendly culture like Europe. Amsterdam was a big eye opener to how much better transport can be. Europe & europeans are much smarter than us Aussies.We're in a car trance & have no visionary politicians, it's a restrictive nanny state at the moment. I am happy to be part of a cycling resurgence for all aspects of life.
stevie29878 9 months ago
I love my Euro city bike.. Mine wieghs around 45 pounds with no cargo... My commute is ~7 miles and I bike it every day. On days it rains or the roads are icy, the Dutch city bike is riden. That bike has many upgrades, for carrying more cargo, better lights and a comfy springed saddle.
The only issue - American drives and little accommodations for non-motored travel.
cyclenut 10 months ago
I agree with defiant, your comentary is retarded.
BluuSkyz 11 months ago
im done listening to this gay fag who doesnt know what hes talking about, if u want a basket if u want mudguards then u simply buy them, they dont come stantard here, cos we use bikes more for leisure not for getting around, and if u sit up straight u create much more wind resitance.
defiant18 1 year ago
@defiant18 Use your energies to argue better instead of just throwing around insults. I;m well aware why bikes don't come equipped with those things. Like you said, it's the leisure use What you ignore is that Australians have the largest carbon footprint in the world. If we used bikes for transport, like they do in Europe, that footprint could be reduced. I think that would be a good thing. Apparently you don't. Why?
MikeRubbo 1 year ago 2
@MikeRubbo, "defiant18" is an idiot. I use my bike daily for trips through town. I sit full upright, Dutch style. I will not use a helmet, not for fifty years now. I go 12 to 15 miles per hour, sometimes slower. No more road bikes or crouched posture for me. I like to sit upright and see the world. Cars give us respect, as we are not hunchbacked land-crabs on our bikes. My bike is a tool, transport, not a sweat or torture machine.
ampdavolts 9 months ago
Just bought one of those beer crate carriers seen in Amsterdam.Just one of the best gagets ever opens up so many more uses. Can even do half weekly shop with it and that means another car journey not needed. the dutch have perfected the every day bike for use whenever and they did a hundred years ago.If you buy one bike for fun and function buy one of these
andrew097 1 year ago
Some points, 1, I have a road bike and I do take it to the shops to do shopping. Speed does matter when you are going to work, shops because as the vehicle is faster it is more practical, without the problems of electric assist. Take a backpack, I Do.
2. Those old fashioned bikes suit some people, I should know I work on them. But you are suggesting that a road bike is only useful for "rides", which is false, as I can atest.
3. The picture of the Sydney cycling group did have upright bikes.
KrunchyJD 1 year ago
@KrunchyJD
Point 4: Many types of bikes can be used for transport, all bikes are good, especially when used as a substitute for a car. As cyclists we should not get into the my bike is superior to yours business, we should be encouraging cycling in all its forms, particularly transport cycling.
KrunchyJD 1 year ago
"You'd never see a water bottle on a Dutch city bike" - to be quite fair, Australian conditions are much drier and hotter and I would hesitate to go for more than 2 or 3 km without having a water bottle.
I'd like to see the legal power limit for electric-assist bicycles increased to 250 Watts - in line with European and Japanese standards. I'd also like it to be law that the motor must cut-out at 30kph.
hartleymartin 1 year ago
Video Mike and Gill Charlton have put out a compelling little video that delivers a strong message. You should also check out Bob Perry's piece called ultralocalcycling at scapestrategy website. Surely government investment in designing healthy cities will save the health budget millions. Rex.
rexgherkins 1 year ago
Had my moment of conversion years ago in Amsterdam. These Granny bikes are great safe, comfortable, easy to cycle and just about the most plesent way to get round and urban landscape. Do Do try it
andrew097 2 years ago
That was a really nice, to the point little documentry.
I'm one of the girls from Beauty and the bike in Darlington and I have to say its nice to hear we are not alone...Good luck with finding your teenage girls!
katepilbeam2901 2 years ago
Great video Mike! I hope it shows people that cycling doesn't always have to be a race to the finish line.
People who cycle on weekends as a recreational activity are perfect candidates to you bicycles as active transportation for commuting to work during the week.
And you don't need a bloody shower if you take it slow!
James
muzak9 2 years ago
Very nicely done.
As we have a range of motor vehicles, from pickup trucks to sports cars and everything in between so do we have road bike and more upright bikes, sport riders and utilitarian riders. I have an upright tandem & triplet bicycles for transporting my children and for myself solo, a Velomobile Quest. The tandem & triplet are for transportation of kids and shopping. Though my Quest can carry quite a bit, it is for one person, covering longer distances and going fast in comfort.
MewFushisDad 2 years ago