Rumi was a tajik-sunni-persian from khorasan or today known as Afghanistan.All of his works has been written in Dari-persian. he has nothing to do wth today's irani shia nation or current state of iran who claims the whole of persia's history which funny...its appropriate for turkish to be proud of Rumi caz he lived in konya most of his life, like most of afghans today.....iran has claimed all of afghanistan's empires,poets,language etc.caz we r in war for 30 yrs...soon we wil take care of it.
suffis are 90% right but where they fall down is in obedience to Allah subhannawatalla in matters that we dont understand. in certain times and instances we have to do things that with our limits we may think as being irreligious. i.e our prophet peace be upon him sometimes ordered assinations of people who oposed him. in our religion sometimes we have to fight and hate those who disbelieve. sufis take the easy route and ignore this part of deen. love comes easy, but this part is the real test
this clip has been edited and it has been unfairly edited. it moits some bits that really tells the tru information about Rumi and his life. they have mited. i do not believe in this shit
I am the servant of the Qur'an as long as I have life. I am the dust on the path of Muhammad, the Chosen one. If anyone quotes anything except this from my sayings,
Excellent intro to Rumi. I am a great fan of his works. For more information on Sufism: please read books by William C. Chittick, Syed Hossein Nasr, and Houston Smith.
I think Islamic sufism is the real sufism. I don't agree as much with Sufism that is broken away from its Islamic roots, or Sufism that is *portrayed* to be broken away from Islam. Because that kind of Sufism is really only re-hashing Buddhism and Taoism in a theistic manner, in my opinion.
wow, what briliance of islam this is. My own faith(Sikhism) is a fusion of Sufi and Hindu ideas. So I feel very much part of all of the faiths or religions.
If you have any problem reading the name of the Ayets i shall write them in numbers dear unicarafth.Pls let me know for I write them thet way I read in Turkish.I am a Turk who lives in abroad.
Rasulullah aslo told that if any time my sayings cause any trouble or missconception, look up the Quran for I have no speech that contradicts with word of Allah-u Teala(meaning the QURAN) my dear friend..
Allso I've just seen your comment on this video's second part and I wouldlike to ask you where you get the obscenity and shamelessness to write rude and uneducated words.Any way we will start with Baqara 216,then Shura 13,and Rum 31.Read those and then we will talk but only if you come to your senses.And do not answer me w/scholars.I want you to use Quran to give me an answer not human written pamphlets.Don't disrepect other and their beliefs for that only shows what a pitty soul you are.
Give the clear details, which verse in Baqara? Give the details like - 01:15 -(Sura:Aya) Baqara:15th verse OK bro. I will give you the answer from the quran itself OK. Alhamdulillah........
Baqara 15 is NOT 1:15, it's 2:15! And the verse has got NOTHING to do with Sufism. In fact, the origins of Sufism go to Ali ibn Abitalib (as) and one branch goes to Abu Bakr. I'm sorry, were these people unislamic? Or maybe you are just TOO STRICT and RIGID and think that Allah the Merciful is not flexible? You do not know your LORD very well unicarafath, to think He is so rigid in religion. I can quote verses which mean "we did not burden you in religion"
Do you really think we say Rumi is better or equal or second to Allah? Subahanallah amma yasefun! Of course not. Rumi has his approach to Quran. It's not necessarily right/wrong. It's simply one way to reach the High Spirituality which Muhammad Rasul-ullah did.
Those being said,I should say that do not bring any sayings from scholars before me for that i do only recognize Quran and it's "lafzs".As i said Quran tells me that there are 28 steps in the Ladder Of Islam that we can apply to all other books that were given by Allah-u Teala All Mighty.
You people say we cant understand Quran and Sunna directly amazing you asking answer from Quran itself..? Keep it up dont listen to Rumi Only Quran and Sunnah ah, Masha Allah bro
You dance with music woman and men together! And you call us modernits or westerners Oh God open your eyes dancing music men & wome togther are you Muslims or are v westerners....? Think
Don't be so ignorant my brother! Most of us who believe in Tasawwuf/Sufism don't dance with women while listening to music. Most Muslim scholars don't accept such things. Please go to Sunnipath . com and use the search function for music, rumi and sufism (separately, of course) and you will see what most "Soofie"-Muslim scholars believe. Visit also Tasawwuf . org and read what I believe to be "Sufism".
addition to cyrano2cyrano's comment that tasawwuff is the backbone of Quran.Most of you are mentioning scholars and I bowe before them for they had sought and still sekking the truth.But as i said I am neither Hindu or Budhist.I might add though, I do respect your opinions and idealogy and will not in any condition get myself into a duel of words for I only try to tell what ever I hold in my heart and share my thought w/you unicarafth.
I am willing to continue this discussion as long as we keep our respect for each other.That being said i need to tell u that I am neither a hindu or budhist for I am only Khanif as all sahaba was and I have no desire to have a claim suc as I do know everything and nobody knows nothing.
dear unicarafath.There was,there is and there will be only one relegion in thie universe let alone in this earth and that is the relegion on Abraham called KHANIF that outlines 4 submissions in 7 level that makes 28 steps.Sufism is the back bone of it and it only tells you you have to submit your spirit,soul,vech which is your body and your will at the end so you can be appointed to the IRSHAD.I am willing to give info only and only by using Quran versus nothing else ,what ever i tell in here.
tolgazhir, nice to here from you such a response I did not see the clip again for a long time.OK Iam ready to talk to you and I will give you the correct meanings of the Quran. Some people are misguided by evils like Rumi even today. I cant send you my email address how can I contact you? Where are you from?
The Quran is more complex than you think. What the Prophet saw in the Quran, the normal person will never see. What an old experienced man sees in a brick war, a young inexperienced boy will NOT see in a mirror. The Quran speaks to everyone, but what Muhammad saw in the Book, you and I will never see.
Bro Catz007 u r telling we cant realize Quran while togazehir asking reference from only Quran did u see a contradiction between you two? Quran is easy man. Dont listen to human being like Rumi listen to Allah.
Remember, according to the Quran, Abraham was Hanif-an Muslim-an. God calls him a Moslem too. So say simply: I am of the nation of Abraham, who was a Moslem and Hanif (upright) and was not one of the idolaters(Mushrikeen)!
No no no! You said the Quran is simple. Explain these verses to me. Quick! Before the lightning takes the very light of your eyes! You who are too proud and think you can explain the Book of God. Quick! Otherwise do not accuse Moslems of NO FAITH!
I am very grateful for your trust to give your email, but I see no reason why not to go over it here. Just to clarify. I'm more interested in Alif Lam Mim and the Light Verse, simply because the "nineteen" can be the miracle as they say, or it could be the number of angels over Hell... but even these are interpretations
This verse speaks about nineteen gurds Allah has kept in the Naar/Hell here we cant type over 100/500 words u know so to explain a matter we need more space my bro ok just send me a mail and i will contact you soon
Sufism/Tassawuf is the inner reality of Islam, and the majority of Sunni Muslim scholars have accepted this. In fact, all the great Sufi masters were adherents of traditional Islam, such as Abd al-Qadir al-Jilani (a Hanbalite scholar and founder of Qadiri order), Bahauddin Naqshband (founder of Naqshbandi order) as well as Rumi, a Hanafi scholar, who declared:
I am the servant of the Qur'an as long as I have life.
I am the dust on the path of Muhammad, the Chosen one.
Allah created good and evil to test man. Quran can be understood in the correct way as well as in the wrong way. Islam is nothing than what Messanger Muhammad has done and showed. The new definitions and systems are not Islam.
The people to get and practice Islam was the Sahabas they did not this shits. Quran and Sunnah is enough for us.
Reaching God isnt this what Hindus and some others believe? Are you a Hindu or Muslim or what?
Did you know when Muhammad (SAWAS) said to his sahaba, "send for pen and paper, so I can refer you to something through which you will not be led astray." He wished to confirm a successor. But Umar interfered harshly, "The Book of God suffices us(is enough) The man is speaking blasphemy!" Umar accused the prophet of blasphemy! Simply because Muhammad was showing a new path in understanding the Quran. You are of the same clan unicarafath!
Sufism is a different relegion. It has nothing to do with Islam. There is no a thing called "Reaching the God" Islam is submiting to God. Sufism is a form of Hindusm in the mask of Islam. Islam is perfected when Prophet Muhammad was alive, there is nothing called Islam after his death.
Rubbish! Only the current day Wahhabis and "modernists" deny Tasawwuf. Imam Ahmad Sirhindi, the Naqshbandi Sufi Shaykh who is known as Alf Sani, has made clear in his works that the final stage in spiritual perfection is "abdiat" (servanthood).
Open your eyes my dear brothers Tasawwuf is new go to the old which Rasulullah tolled. Quran has been made easy by Allah you are blind, what can I do?
You have either been misled by the wahhabis or some ignorant new interpreter of Islam. Go to l i v i n g i s l a m . org/tsw.html and read what the great scholars of Islam have said about the issue. After all, we are obliged to follow the opinions of scholars as the Qur'an says "ask those who know".
You didnt get the point my dear Quran says ask that is not follow their opinion ask what Quran says if u dont know. Understand the difference OK. Visit spub and see. May Allah guide you bros...
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Rumi was a tajik-sunni-persian from khorasan or today known as Afghanistan.All of his works has been written in Dari-persian. he has nothing to do wth today's irani shia nation or current state of iran who claims the whole of persia's history which funny...its appropriate for turkish to be proud of Rumi caz he lived in konya most of his life, like most of afghans today.....iran has claimed all of afghanistan's empires,poets,language etc.caz we r in war for 30 yrs...soon we wil take care of it.
afghankabuli 1 year ago
suffis are 90% right but where they fall down is in obedience to Allah subhannawatalla in matters that we dont understand. in certain times and instances we have to do things that with our limits we may think as being irreligious. i.e our prophet peace be upon him sometimes ordered assinations of people who oposed him. in our religion sometimes we have to fight and hate those who disbelieve. sufis take the easy route and ignore this part of deen. love comes easy, but this part is the real test
dudparty 2 years ago
@dudparty Prophet(pbuh) never assassinated anyone on just opposition, but on mischief!! Prove your point pls?? Sufis stress on Jihad e Akbar!
artistdigital 1 year ago
his name is abu ali sina balkhi
balkh is in afghanistan every body know it
his from afghanistan
fon´t say you mother fuuuuuuuuuck
his a proud afghan
you people are all gay and bich
paktonSigainAST 2 years ago
this clip has been edited and it has been unfairly edited. it moits some bits that really tells the tru information about Rumi and his life. they have mited. i do not believe in this shit
lovelorn24 2 years ago
Sorry but my friend is a turkish sufi, and he is agree with this video. In sufisme, there is noting above LOVE and TOLERANCE. PEACE ON EARTH.
kizilkaya1 2 years ago 2
I am the servant of the Qur'an as long as I have life. I am the dust on the path of Muhammad, the Chosen one. If anyone quotes anything except this from my sayings,
I am quit of him and outraged by these words.
Hz. Mawlana Jalal-ad-Din Muhammad Rumi (k.s)
xterminal01 3 years ago 5
Very good city a konya
diyalogsitesicom 3 years ago
Excellent intro to Rumi. I am a great fan of his works. For more information on Sufism: please read books by William C. Chittick, Syed Hossein Nasr, and Houston Smith.
itzsimplyasmi 4 years ago
to all those who comment like sufism is shirk or things like that: read some islamic books.
how funny is this: when it comes to islam every one instantly becomes a scholar.
lighten up!
aktal 4 years ago
If you love poeple, you love directly God.
If respect people, you are respecting God.
If serve people, you al ready serving God.
Mystic is the inside and personal way to God.
pls. create love with everthing around you,
Go to the journey into the microcosmos, than you will be in Love and unity with God...
deepmystic1 4 years ago
I think Islamic sufism is the real sufism. I don't agree as much with Sufism that is broken away from its Islamic roots, or Sufism that is *portrayed* to be broken away from Islam. Because that kind of Sufism is really only re-hashing Buddhism and Taoism in a theistic manner, in my opinion.
HeavyMetalZen 4 years ago
wow, what briliance of islam this is. My own faith(Sikhism) is a fusion of Sufi and Hindu ideas. So I feel very much part of all of the faiths or religions.
gurminder2005 4 years ago
Iqbal said " Taarikh keh rahi he ke Rumi ke saamne-- Dawa kya jo Porus o Dara ne khaam tha"
khanchacha 4 years ago
astagfilah, Allah is one he has no partner
Muslim112 4 years ago
May Allah bless you borther, save your Iman from these Shirks and Bidats. Na-Udu-Billah...
unicarafath 4 years ago
If you have any problem reading the name of the Ayets i shall write them in numbers dear unicarafth.Pls let me know for I write them thet way I read in Turkish.I am a Turk who lives in abroad.
tolgazehir 4 years ago
Ok borther, send me the Quran Ayas, I want to go through them. And how can I contact you?
unicarafath 4 years ago
Rasulullah aslo told that if any time my sayings cause any trouble or missconception, look up the Quran for I have no speech that contradicts with word of Allah-u Teala(meaning the QURAN) my dear friend..
tolgazehir 4 years ago
Allso I've just seen your comment on this video's second part and I wouldlike to ask you where you get the obscenity and shamelessness to write rude and uneducated words.Any way we will start with Baqara 216,then Shura 13,and Rum 31.Read those and then we will talk but only if you come to your senses.And do not answer me w/scholars.I want you to use Quran to give me an answer not human written pamphlets.Don't disrepect other and their beliefs for that only shows what a pitty soul you are.
tolgazehir 4 years ago
Give the clear details, which verse in Baqara? Give the details like - 01:15 -(Sura:Aya) Baqara:15th verse OK bro. I will give you the answer from the quran itself OK. Alhamdulillah........
unicarafath 4 years ago
Dear brother
Baqara 15 is NOT 1:15, it's 2:15! And the verse has got NOTHING to do with Sufism. In fact, the origins of Sufism go to Ali ibn Abitalib (as) and one branch goes to Abu Bakr. I'm sorry, were these people unislamic? Or maybe you are just TOO STRICT and RIGID and think that Allah the Merciful is not flexible? You do not know your LORD very well unicarafath, to think He is so rigid in religion. I can quote verses which mean "we did not burden you in religion"
Catz007 4 years ago
We can discuss Rumis poems and contradiction between Quran bro Rumi on his own imaingation Quran is from Allah...
unicarafath 4 years ago
Do you really think we say Rumi is better or equal or second to Allah? Subahanallah amma yasefun! Of course not. Rumi has his approach to Quran. It's not necessarily right/wrong. It's simply one way to reach the High Spirituality which Muhammad Rasul-ullah did.
Catz007 4 years ago
Those being said,I should say that do not bring any sayings from scholars before me for that i do only recognize Quran and it's "lafzs".As i said Quran tells me that there are 28 steps in the Ladder Of Islam that we can apply to all other books that were given by Allah-u Teala All Mighty.
tolgazehir 4 years ago
You people say we cant understand Quran and Sunna directly amazing you asking answer from Quran itself..? Keep it up dont listen to Rumi Only Quran and Sunnah ah, Masha Allah bro
unicarafath 4 years ago
Bros see the beauty of Sufism in the clips which bro JAALIUS have posted. With evidence open your eyes...
unicarafath 4 years ago
You dance with music woman and men together! And you call us modernits or westerners Oh God open your eyes dancing music men & wome togther are you Muslims or are v westerners....? Think
unicarafath 4 years ago
Don't be so ignorant my brother! Most of us who believe in Tasawwuf/Sufism don't dance with women while listening to music. Most Muslim scholars don't accept such things. Please go to Sunnipath . com and use the search function for music, rumi and sufism (separately, of course) and you will see what most "Soofie"-Muslim scholars believe. Visit also Tasawwuf . org and read what I believe to be "Sufism".
Minipris 4 years ago
What are those 28 steps in the Ledder and which Quranic ayas telling this tell me I like to know...!
unicarafath 4 years ago
addition to cyrano2cyrano's comment that tasawwuff is the backbone of Quran.Most of you are mentioning scholars and I bowe before them for they had sought and still sekking the truth.But as i said I am neither Hindu or Budhist.I might add though, I do respect your opinions and idealogy and will not in any condition get myself into a duel of words for I only try to tell what ever I hold in my heart and share my thought w/you unicarafth.
tolgazehir 4 years ago
I am willing to continue this discussion as long as we keep our respect for each other.That being said i need to tell u that I am neither a hindu or budhist for I am only Khanif as all sahaba was and I have no desire to have a claim suc as I do know everything and nobody knows nothing.
cyrano2cyrano 4 years ago
dear unicarafath.There was,there is and there will be only one relegion in thie universe let alone in this earth and that is the relegion on Abraham called KHANIF that outlines 4 submissions in 7 level that makes 28 steps.Sufism is the back bone of it and it only tells you you have to submit your spirit,soul,vech which is your body and your will at the end so you can be appointed to the IRSHAD.I am willing to give info only and only by using Quran versus nothing else ,what ever i tell in here.
tolgazehir 4 years ago
I am interested though. Forget those who see not the beauty of other dimensions of the Quran. They cannot see beyond the letters of the Holy Book
Catz007 4 years ago
Evils seem good for those who misled. Quran is to follow. Salafis are doing it well I thing though Iam not a Salafi!
unicarafath 4 years ago
tolgazhir, nice to here from you such a response I did not see the clip again for a long time.OK Iam ready to talk to you and I will give you the correct meanings of the Quran. Some people are misguided by evils like Rumi even today. I cant send you my email address how can I contact you? Where are you from?
The truth came and the evil dissapeared!
unicarafath 4 years ago
The Quran is more complex than you think. What the Prophet saw in the Quran, the normal person will never see. What an old experienced man sees in a brick war, a young inexperienced boy will NOT see in a mirror. The Quran speaks to everyone, but what Muhammad saw in the Book, you and I will never see.
Catz007 4 years ago
Bro Catz007 u r telling we cant realize Quran while togazehir asking reference from only Quran did u see a contradiction between you two? Quran is easy man. Dont listen to human being like Rumi listen to Allah.
unicarafath 4 years ago
If Quran is so easy, explain to me the following:
Alif Lam Mim
74:30 "Over it is nineteen"
Do you know when Allah says that this Quran is "Light and Guidance" it means "Sublime"?
And how about the famous Light Verse? God is "light upon light"?
Catz007 4 years ago
Remember, according to the Quran, Abraham was Hanif-an Muslim-an. God calls him a Moslem too. So say simply: I am of the nation of Abraham, who was a Moslem and Hanif (upright) and was not one of the idolaters(Mushrikeen)!
Catz007 4 years ago
I showed an example bro not anything regarding sufism OK give me the ayas which tells about sufism.
unicarafath 4 years ago
No no no! You said the Quran is simple. Explain these verses to me. Quick! Before the lightning takes the very light of your eyes! You who are too proud and think you can explain the Book of God. Quick! Otherwise do not accuse Moslems of NO FAITH!
Catz007 4 years ago
my email id is unicarafath(at)yahoo,com,uk email me I will tell you the meanings bro
unicarafath 4 years ago
I will explain you what "Over nineteen aya" means email me
unicarafath 4 years ago
I am very grateful for your trust to give your email, but I see no reason why not to go over it here. Just to clarify. I'm more interested in Alif Lam Mim and the Light Verse, simply because the "nineteen" can be the miracle as they say, or it could be the number of angels over Hell... but even these are interpretations
Catz007 4 years ago
This verse speaks about nineteen gurds Allah has kept in the Naar/Hell here we cant type over 100/500 words u know so to explain a matter we need more space my bro ok just send me a mail and i will contact you soon
unicarafath 4 years ago
I will do so soon. Possibly next week. Thank you. But also answer the other verses (and many more) thanks when I do email you ;)
Catz007 4 years ago
why not answer here so we all benefit from this discussion
hellophoenix 4 years ago
Sufism/Tassawuf is the inner reality of Islam, and the majority of Sunni Muslim scholars have accepted this. In fact, all the great Sufi masters were adherents of traditional Islam, such as Abd al-Qadir al-Jilani (a Hanbalite scholar and founder of Qadiri order), Bahauddin Naqshband (founder of Naqshbandi order) as well as Rumi, a Hanafi scholar, who declared:
I am the servant of the Qur'an as long as I have life.
I am the dust on the path of Muhammad, the Chosen one.
Minipris 4 years ago
Allah created good and evil to test man. Quran can be understood in the correct way as well as in the wrong way. Islam is nothing than what Messanger Muhammad has done and showed. The new definitions and systems are not Islam.
The people to get and practice Islam was the Sahabas they did not this shits. Quran and Sunnah is enough for us.
Reaching God isnt this what Hindus and some others believe? Are you a Hindu or Muslim or what?
unicarafath 4 years ago
Did you know when Muhammad (SAWAS) said to his sahaba, "send for pen and paper, so I can refer you to something through which you will not be led astray." He wished to confirm a successor. But Umar interfered harshly, "The Book of God suffices us(is enough) The man is speaking blasphemy!" Umar accused the prophet of blasphemy! Simply because Muhammad was showing a new path in understanding the Quran. You are of the same clan unicarafath!
Catz007 4 years ago
Sufism is a different relegion. It has nothing to do with Islam. There is no a thing called "Reaching the God" Islam is submiting to God. Sufism is a form of Hindusm in the mask of Islam. Islam is perfected when Prophet Muhammad was alive, there is nothing called Islam after his death.
unicarafath 4 years ago
Rubbish! Only the current day Wahhabis and "modernists" deny Tasawwuf. Imam Ahmad Sirhindi, the Naqshbandi Sufi Shaykh who is known as Alf Sani, has made clear in his works that the final stage in spiritual perfection is "abdiat" (servanthood).
Minipris 4 years ago
Open your eyes my dear brothers Tasawwuf is new go to the old which Rasulullah tolled. Quran has been made easy by Allah you are blind, what can I do?
unicarafath 4 years ago
You have either been misled by the wahhabis or some ignorant new interpreter of Islam. Go to l i v i n g i s l a m . org/tsw.html and read what the great scholars of Islam have said about the issue. After all, we are obliged to follow the opinions of scholars as the Qur'an says "ask those who know".
Minipris 4 years ago
You didnt get the point my dear Quran says ask that is not follow their opinion ask what Quran says if u dont know. Understand the difference OK. Visit spub and see. May Allah guide you bros...
unicarafath 4 years ago
awsom...
tajick 4 years ago
this is wonderful!
aleyna00 5 years ago
Very interesiting and informative
javbristol 5 years ago
MANY THANKS
sufi786 5 years ago