Flexible Solar Panel 230 watts to a Grid Tie Inverter Wiring

[garmonzick]

@LawrenceHill

I just got the it a month ago and it taught me how

to build a world class solar panel in just 2 hours

and half. And by the end of the month, my electric

bill was saved almost 70%. Im happy about it!

PS= you got the site name spelled wrong. Here's

the correct one:

GreenEnergyNow.info

[pro311031]

Where did you get the metal roofing panels that are flat, everywhere I look all they have are wavy ones, I have two of the uni-solar panels already they work very well even on over cast days, I need toi mount mine, but i don't want to stick mine to the roof.

[robinclark8989]

Commercial Solar Panels are too Expensive (Around $300 for a 100 Watt Solar Panel)

Your Only Option is to Build Your own Solar Panels

There is an Engineer from Chicago that explains it All

You can find his web site by Searching Google for...

"Top DIY Solar Panels"

Remember to click the First Result (Skip The Advertisements)

[greenDIYscience]

I had always Hurd that grid tie inverters were very unsafe and you can get into legal issues is this true? I have never used one but I wish too.

[takeoUup115]

i wish dan and denise lived near me

[DarwinsFriend]

The actual "value" of these new technologies and not being cognizant of the actual human cost, is much like diamonds being pit mined in Africa. If I can buy it at 'Kay Jewelers' for 1/2 the price elsewhere - why should I give a damn?

Same - same with all sorts of solar panel production. Nobody bothers with where the ingredients come from to make them and damn well don't care where the waste from such activity goes - even in 25 years when the panels give up the ghost.

Nothing is free children.

[BigBookHarry]

@DarwinsFriend can you say made from recycled materials and then recycle when done Hmmm novel concept. I love sarcasm. Have a nice day, unless of course you have other plans :-)

[DarwinsFriend]

@BigBookHarry ...can you say made from recycled materials and then recycle when done Hmmm novel concept...

Problem is - coal is used to burn the recycled materials back into something you can use - and that's in mainland China. One new coal plant is being built there every two weeks. You see the supplier - that's a very limited perspective. You have zero clue as to the poison being spewed into the atmosphere and landing on the soil - to go into people's drinking water. You're a solar sap.

[bodryn]

@mrabuckten This may be true, but for people who just want to know how to install this panel, must the proper jargon be used which could be confusing? I have used these to fasten 110v wires together for various purposes, but never knew them by name at all. "Wire nuts" is a term I could at least easily understand.

[DarwinsFriend]

Solar Panels - from the time of their manufacture, installation, maintenance and disposal - are an economic fallacy. If you're remote - they're great. Everywhere else - they're a joke.

[bodryn]

@DarwinsFriend Interesting statement, but if you don't back up what you say, how do I know your opinion has any validity? I can think of lots of situations where solar panels would make a lot of sense.

[DarwinsFriend]

@bodryn ...I can think of lots of situations where solar panels would make a lot of sense...

Yes - so can many people. And as I stated - using them remotely makes perfect sense.

Four urban applications they're a long term nightmare. Environmentally and economically. Power generation on the edge of a major metropolis is much more controllable and upgradable. When solar panels (not the type being humped in this video) are installed they reflect light and require maintenance after 20 years.

[DarwinsFriend]

@DarwinsFriend Four = For

[bodryn]

@DarwinsFriend I'm visiting in a small city, which one could maybe call "urban", I don't know. However, I can see a nice use for solar panels for people with gas-electric hybrids that would like to partially charge their vehicles even where there are no plug-ins available, like here. I can also see how solar panels on vehicles could be useful for people with gas engines who just want to make sure their car batteries are kept charged even after parking for a long time. Such as here.

[DarwinsFriend]

@bodryn Indeed - there are specific and economical applications, no doubt. As with wind generated installations - a balance has to be reached regarding how much pollution will be generated in the manufacture and eventual disposal of said generation system. Nothing lasts forever and considering it has been said that 5 million (3' x 6') solar panels would be required to fully power 100,000 four bedroom homes - it's going to be a while before huge housing tracts can be successful at this game.

[bodryn]

@DarwinsFriend I kinda worry about folks who are always seeing the negative sides of new technology. There are always people who say things like "it can't be done" or it can't be practical. And then you always have economics coming up in some responses. IMHO, there are always plenty of naysayers out there who like to pooh-pooh new things, but in my case I am interested in possible applications of these things. I think flexible solar panels were long in coming, and people can use them.

[DarwinsFriend]

@bodryn ... I kinda worry about folks who are always seeing the negative sides of new technology...

I understand. And that's a valid concern. To a point.

Please read my previous post once again and focus on the word "balance". It's the key to my eight decades of experience. With 65 years in the manufacturing and aviation industry, I've seen technology come and go - all with varying prices to be paid for the bells and whistles - and the "Wow Factors" associated with supposed advancements.

[bodryn]

@DarwinsFriend I am not concerned about huge housing tracts; I am concerned about how individuals can use their own creativity to make use of technologies. I've been doing that for years, using my own ideas as to how to make use of them. I'll let somebody else be concerned on how expensive something is going to be. I am also very interested in flexible LCD screens which are being promised. They'd be great because something flexible will be much less subject to breakage.

[DarwinsFriend]

@bodryn ... I'll let somebody else be concerned on how expensive something is going to be...

How liberating and obtuse at the same time.

Expense isn't just monetary - and I'm sure your vast world-wide experience affords you that key knowledge. Things require materials. There are now seven billion of us on Earth that want those things.  Many don't even know they want them; they just need to be sold and signed up for "the program." The pollution in getting the materials and disposing of them?

[bodryn]

@DarwinsFriend Well, I guess your function here is to keep us all apprised as to the social implications of these interesting new technologies. I usually go elsewhere if I want to discuss the political, economic and sociological aspects of new technologies.

[BigBookHarry]

@DarwinsFriend Manufacture - I pay for them, instalation - a little work, maintenance - wash them every once in a while to maintain max output, series them to match the grid voltage,run in pairs to each leg of 120v, step across dc/ac inversion is more efficent than step up inversion. Law states that if you generate more power than you use the electric co has to buy it from you. refrig. necessity limit other use and you could get a check from them each month. use batteries and go off grid.

[dieselplow]

Solar Penny - Best Prices on Solar Panels SolarPenny . com

[carr869]

I live in the woods and when the wind blows its like Wizard of Oz time out here. Limbs flying every where. What happens if they get hit and a hole is poked in them? My guess would be that they'd be ok.

[MrBen1160]

just a guess but i bet you get better rating then Dan!

[Klubkid69]

I haven't noticed any combiner boxes with breakers/fuses/etc on your systems, is this something you would recommend? I had build a system awhile back and didn't worry about it because it was small but am not starting to add more panels to it and would like to know what's a good way to set a combiner box up as the voltage and amperage are increasing on my system, well voltage b/c I am having some panels on the same strings. It'd be cool if you did a vid on this, but lemme know if you can help

[helloman1976]

Dan, I can see now that you really are a genius...

[8digitPDX]

OK, so I got two of those long flexible panels from a guy on ebay, and tested one today, it is pushing the 40+ volts, which according to the label on my 300 watt grid tie inverter is too high for it. What do I do now? Get a different GTI? Put s ome sort of voltage reducer on the line?

[UlfrIronwood]

Keep the price per watt the same, but make sailboat sails out of this stuff and it would sell hot.

[ledmission]

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[jbbauer0]

I want to build a house out of those containers. Saw it on tv, they put some side by side, can stack them, do all sorts of neat stuff.

[hulkhatepunybanner]

Solar power chicks are hot.

That mormon commercial played before the video was idiotic. "I believe this planet was made for US." Probably the most narcissistic statement ever uttered. He singlehandedly beat everything ever said by Muhammed Ali - and it wasn't even for promoting anything.

[donyunger]

$2.5K! what's the advantage in bothering to purchase one? Here you can enclose the same amount of area using conventional construction for a lot less.

[bonds911]

uyy,, uyyy,,, uyyy i would really appreciate a 1080 p video because im really interested in solar power.:) really i am ,,, of course i could watch her talk about it all day long..........

[WindPowerKits]

Very cool Denise.  I need to find an attractive spokesmodel like you. Nice job.

[callmeshane303]

I'd cover the wires and fill the wire nut with Vaseline - if they are pointed cap up, and out of the suns UV - the connection will stay good almost indefinitely.

[dgr8zod]

Wire nuts don't last long outside.. A weatherproof junction box, or soldering and shrinkwrapping will go for as long as the panel..

[TheVampirella]

Looking forward to the next one! Thanks for making all of these videos.

[madjimms]

Denise has some MUSCLE on her! Lucky guy Dan.

[weldmaster80]

It does help to be geeky though

[tabhorian]

Glad to see you making videos too, Denise. Good job. Women need to know that they can do this kind of thing too, its not just for geeky guys.

[themeaningoflife38]

so pretty

[GreatInca]

What about a hybrid inverters like the ones from xantrex? These inverters work like grid-tie inverters when the power is on (and can also charge the batteries with grid power), and work like off-grid inverters when the power is out so that your panels will still work in case hyper-stagflation creates rolling blackouts.

[SydbarF]

Dont listen to em Dan!!....I think you guys are the most awesome couple...meant for each other...teaching others....thats sexy in itself...but my crush is on you...and Im a married man!!! LOL!!! seriously...I love your channel...and I just wish there were more people like you in the world..glad you are here to help teach me the things I dont know...have a blessed day!

[JEFF9K]

She's hot!

[CyberDruif]

I love how Denise is speaking nice and calm every time she hosts GPS, compared to the frantic and yelling nature of Dan. Technical know-how is better with Dan, but still I prefer Denise.

[chop98]

Dan! Your mug is out! We've found a new and permanent spokes lady for GPS. :D

[monkeys5150]

Cool vid. Have you considered using thermal insulating paint on the cargo containers? Was curious what you had planned for them.

[garyshouse305]

Return To Gravity Assisted Power.wmv

[mrmartincito47]

hi dennis could you tell me were can i buy and the cost too please

[8DoverNJ]

Got a system on the roof of my building with those type of panels. So far after about a year they've been working pretty well. We've been exporting more energy out to the grid than consuming. It is for an art center which is not open all the time but still, it's working out for us. The power company still charges us for "customer charge." Lame.....but supposedly we'll be getting a credit the middle of next year. It should be a large one!

[GoodChiii]

here in eastern ontario canada i have the same panel there great great chanel :)

[Fekillix]

Funny that you are taking 20$ more then the e-Bay seller Bargainengine.

He also ships them cheaper! and he has 100% Positive feedback too!

ebay . com /itm/SOLAR-Flexible-Roof-Panel­-124-watt-UniSolar-/2807220020­63?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=­item415c55d08f#ht_1395wt_881

If you care too, thumb this up so others can see!

[YOSEFPE]

good music like always

thanks

[onmyown12]

I'm curious - is Denise keen on such machinery or she is doing it because of you?

[ZoneTelevision]

Denise is simply breathtaking .. Dan you are a very lucky man. I'm trying to scroll down and figure out why you have all those containers on your property.

[markjerno]

Thumbs down, based upon the ad at the beginning of the video

[Cranberryshortbread]

@markjerno Ad? What ad?

[burchified]

ok....why would you have cargo containers in your back yard?

[dinze1]

hello just asking,this type of grid connection, is their any need for battery ?

[Fekillix]

@dinze1 Nope, no need for a battery! Could be smart to have a bettery in case of a power-outage..

[jhunted7667]

where is you buy that flexable solar panel?? whats it's life expectancy?

[GREENPOWERSCIENCE]

@jhunted7667 25 YEARS.

Link in the more info area

[ontap55]

thanks for the video and the website...give us updates on how well they perform in various weather situations....thanks

[stopcraponutube]

How much did those two solar panels cost?

[rosskstar]

what are you going to grow in the containers? hmmmmmmmmm??

[Heart111ful]

where were  you lost Denise.

[enticed2zeitgeist]

Great to see Denise again!

[DiyEcoProjects]

Dan, would you be up for doing a video about how to install your solar panels into your house and onto the grid? or would that be too dangerous to show... Id love to know how you go about connecting your system to your house fuse box or whatever. If you do would appreciate it, lov and regards

[DiyEcoProjects]

Thank you for your videos: >INFO: Here in the uk we have some options. Free solar panels+installation typical 2.7 kWp system. You get to use the electric which saves on average £70 off your bills and the company thats supplied them gets to keep the feed in tarriff on average £1,030/year. >OR If you can afford the £12,000 for the 2.7 kWp system you get to keep the £1,030/year and over 25 years net you £25,750. Feed-in tariff payment rises with inflation, also tax-free.

[mclarenf45]

Solar panels look cute, but its not worth the cost buying so expensive items to produce such small electricity, then u get rainy days, overcast conditions, it's not a good solution. Using solar panels is applicable for satellites, rockets, in space where they are constantly getting sunlight.

[razorgarf]

@mclarenf45 You know that's just untrue. Sure you have to pay upfront initially, but it will pay itself back in 10 years or so - and then you have free electricty from then on (do you think electricty price will stay flat in 10 years?), and remember you tie it to the grid so you've always got electricity for days when it produce less power. The price of solar panels have fallen a lot the last few years, the industry is changing fast these days.

[ArgosSmith2009]

@mclarenf45 It is an investment, and its not for everyone. That being said, it matters what company you get to install them on your house, and how it is financed. A company called Solar City (mostly west and central America, though expanding to the east coast) has great financing options, essentially they own the panels for the first 20 years, and you are essentially renting them, which is great because you save more than the rent costs, and nothing upfront is needed. Instant Savings.

[88roro11]

i wanna live off the grid.. produce my own energy grow my own food... screw the system :)

[galegregory97comcast]

your not going to keep them cool??

[Jerry2665]

Thank you for sharing your video and all the good info. Peace,,,,

[w3bguru]

Uni-Solar panels are really cool - check out Xunlight panels for a similar roll able panel option.

[sok8888]

I don't understand. Why use flexible solar panel and then put it into frame? Might be simpler to just buy a normal solar panel.

Also, since there are 2 panels, 2 micro-inverter attached to each penal might be better than one large inverter, isn't it?

[bitplayer18]

D&D, Thanks for all the information.. I am somewhat new to the whole solar thing - Planning to build a shed in the spring with 150 sqft of southern exposure. I like to flexible panels- Can you tell me where to buy them?

thanks, RBfree

[stoichiometric]

Whenever I see the channel's name, I feel I have to yell it.

[1betrman]

Denise you are so much prettier than that other girl.

(Dan you are blessed)

Interesting post.

yall take care!

[squirrelbong]

Denise you are gorgeous!l

 I gotta admit I might not have clicked on this vid so quick if I hadn't seen she was hosting it. :)

[ewetubesuxass]

You sure are purtier than than Dan feller! LOL love y'all s videos good to see you back in the mix, let Dan hold the camera for awhile. :)

[lostburro]

TNX Denise! Great to see you back in front of the camera (and not sneaking around, like in the "Melting Cans" video. LOL!)

I love polka dots!

[DukeNukem65]

I heard the panel prices are really dropping, should we wait a while before buying them? Thanks, enjoy your show.

[101AOK]

Have him B tech and YOU SALES. Things will go smother. Have HER INTERVIEW you as the "consultant" on the solar stuff. (I can edit and create the music in trade)

[SouthNJPC]

Sorry Denise, you handed up the 2 panels.... and Dan this was the most pointless video you have ever uploaded... Denise... sorry but you are only liked on here cuz you are beautiful. Just saying!

[TheDudeRulez09]

@SouthNJPC what a cock face you are...

[TheDudeRulez09]

@SouthNJPC just sayin.....

[SouthNJPC]

@TheDudeRulez09 yea... thats all. :)

[callmeshane303]

So where is the sammiches?

[11oldgoat]

how much?

[GREENPOWERSCIENCE]

@11oldgoat They are about $300 each. 

[CommentsSurvey]

@GREENPOWERSCIENCE : "How much" is what? What is $300.00 each?

[neiallswheel]

@GREENPOWERSCIENCE at $300 each that would be good for an RV / camper van/ caravan roof

hot october 2011 in the UK. nice.

2 x 124 watts so 248 watts @ 42 volts equals 6 amps. thought it woulda been more somehow.

12 hours a day is 72 amphours .good charge. cute and informative. my kinda couple.

[ArgosSmith2009]

@neiallswheel would actually be more like 5 hours of direct sun on average, throughout the day. Voltage remains very constant from solar panels, even when cloudy or not direct sun, but current can vary greatly if cloudy or not direct sun (morning/evening).

[CommentsSurvey]

@GREENPOWERSCIENCE : I take it the solar panels are about $300.00 each? And where do we buy them?

[GREENPOWERSCIENCE]

@CommentsSurvey info above in more info area.

[CommentsSurvey]

@GREENPOWERSCIENCE : thanks for your quick response. I had checked in the info area, but didn't realize the website listed was also for sales. Will check it out. Looks great. And in answer to one question below, "why use rollable panels and then build into a frame?" I would use the rollable panels since I am living in Guatemala part time and I can easily bring them back with me. That's the first thought that comes to mind. Lightweight and easy to transport. Can't wait to try them out.

[599891]

Well done Denise, you are the "Queen of Green". It's about time Dan quit hogging the camera.

[GREENPOWERSCIENCE]

@599891 :-) Thank you 599891 - Denise

[PhattyMo]

What size are those storage containers,and how much did they cost?

I'm thinking of getting a couple in the future,just like to get an idea of what to expect!

[GREENPOWERSCIENCE]

@PhattyMo They are 40 ft containers. The first one was $1750, the last one was $2500. The price has gone up a lot over the past 2 years. They are really good. If you buy one from a company, do not buy the painted ones. They are usually covering excessive rust. You can paint yourself with enamel paint and a spray gun.

[spinynorman1982]

@GREENPOWERSCIENCE After we finish painting ourselves do you think we should paint the Storage Containers?

[Raaszhecku]

I'm definitely going to build a house out of the shipping containters. I'm just trying to think of a way to insulate and wire them, though : /

[88roro11]

@Raaszhecku ive had a similar idea.. insulation.. perhaps spray the out side with rhino liner (rust prevention).. then bury them... wiring use commercial conduit.. it will look really cool :)

[Raaszhecku]

@88roro11 Screw it, I'm flushing out some designs tomorrow. I just gotta get the dimensions and price of them worked out. With the money I save, I may just go lakeside. Suck it, housing market, I'll have my lakeside property for $100k =D

[88roro11]

@Raaszhecku haha take that system... also your house will last alot longer then houses built 2 day.. and doubles as a bunker

[Petawatt]

@88roro11

you know, they do sell Insulated shipping containers. They sell extra tall, refrigerated, open top, and extra wide door versions too

[88roro11]

@Petawatt haha good point.. i didnt even think of refrigerator containers.. do you know where they sell those types of things?

[Petawatt]

Since the USA is a importer of cheap plastic crap, there are an excess of containers. The price probably tracks the scrap metal value. Although around here, the 20 foot ones are almost as expensive. The smaller ones are probably more in demand by contractors though. A 40' one should weigh about 9k lbs. and steel is at 10-12 dollars per 100lb. at the scrapyard. Of course, if you were selling 100 containers at a time you should get a better price.

[marthale7]

They take up more space than other panels, but I love my 10 of these, thinking about getting 5 more, much easier to mount than other panels and the shipping cost is much less. These are Unisolar from Sunelectric ?

[rainbowsalads]

GPS completely rules. : )

[MrMinutemen]

photo voltaic rules!!