GM? uh, no. But everyone chill out, it was just a friendly spar by some different martial arts students, nobody was a master or trying to knock anybody out.
TKD guy is very small compared to Wing Chun fighter. He is no physical match in upper body strength. It is well known that the kicker will lose their balance when the leg is caught or the centerline is disrupted. There are TKD fighters who can beat this WC man if they were stronger in the upper body and have better boxing skills. It's a physical and technical mismatch. This WC fighter has advantage in physique and skill set. Must develop all attributes not just kicks.
It seems that people here are not understanding the the WC guy in white is so much in control that he does not have use any power. He is only demonstrating his technique and control. If he used his power and technique the TKD guy would be out in a sec. This is part of WC through positioning and close fighting to neutralize other styles.
@81nickyboy that so called tkd fighter is crap and no tkd fighter. that grand master aint shit either. He only sticks to his opponent with his hands in his face. Yes this is sparring, In reality this grandmaster would be shit also if he fought a real fighter.
Why do people even do these style vs style matches? the man that is most effective on the street has borrowed from both of these styles and more. Anybody who studies Jeet June Do concepts will learn that just like in MMA, the man who will reign on top in the streets is the man who knows how to effortlessly transition from style to style while under the emotional pressure that is involved in a street fight. Absorb what is useful and reject what does not work. This is just the beginnings of JKD
@PlsChangeYoName the white man attends proper training of wing chun and got experience, while the black one, sorry to say that, is too unexperienced, he cant even move, change directions and his feet are not flexible. i dont think he is an average tkd practicer
I think this was a really good fight. The guy in white is very good with his hands. They didn't use strength or even punches, but technically not bad.
@KroxiGore07 yeah but in ITF TKD, if someone closes on your kick you should use punches/hand strikes, and I didn't see any attempt to do that here. Also ITF TKD teaches elbow and knee too.
tkd fighters can't fight close range especially when their kicks get intercepted by a toe stomp or shin kick at the point of initiation, the guy in the white was totally messing with the guy and all he had to do the entire time was just step in and get in close range
this is good if you know what to look at, he's going in trapping his hands and touching the dude without getting touched back. if he was fighting he'd obviously use his fists with more power, then you see where the tapping and slapping would change. c'mon guys look at it instead of bashing it soon as you see it. you can learn from anything, even a child.
If he is TKD, you can tell the guy in black is WTF, he screams when he lands even a weak kick, surely because he is used to employing that tactic to make the judges believe he's earned a point during a point match. I'm surprised he didn't threw himself to the ground on purpose so the fight would be stopped. God I hate those sneaky cheaters.
@PlsChangeYoName why wouldn't you compare two different martial arts how fucking stupid is that? If its judo and tkd thats another story but if your so sorry about one style you can compare it thats you not even one else.
@ermalkoci He wasn't able to use the tkd if you actually knew how to fight you see grandmaster was preventing that and only playing around at the same time. The only time he was able to use even just a little was from a kick but then grandmaster would close the distance and read his movement so he couldn't do anything.
@shukaku The TKD guy should have used speed and evasion. He seemed to stand there waiting for it. Also, his kicks don't look particularly powerful (at least, not as powerful as they could be).
Bottom line, didn't matter what style this Kid was. He was very inexperienced in Martial Arts and Fighting period. Good thing the Teacher wasn't going hard on him. More like a friendly sparring session. He was easy on the Kid.
@ All the idiots saying "OH NONE OF DEM ARE HAVE POWAHH DEY SUX!!" its a spar session retards. they are choosing NOT to hit each other hard (because of no protection) or else it would be a spar session now would it?
@ All the idiots saying "U GUYZ SUX I BET" etc etc fucking prove it, show us your videos of you beating up a kung fu instructor or TKD desciple, come on oh wait i forgot your just a keyboard warrior who talks shit.These 2 are probably more skilled that any of you will ever be.
Very amateur TKD kid getting dominated and pushed around in a slappy fight demonstration by an instructor who has at least 30-40 lbs. on him. Not very suspenseful...
guy in white seems to be holding back, not punching, just slapping him, getting the tkd guy into a short range which is optimal for wing chun but not for tkd. More like he's toying with the chap.
grandmaster my ass, the fella in black don't even know what his doing cause he got no fucken ARMS to punch and the other is a sloppy slapper. pathetic battle
yeah the TKD guy sucks balls he is not a well trained TKD person....plus the TKD guy is 135 pounds and the other guy is like 175..there first can be no comparison cause the TKD guy sucks balls and is not well trained.....again there needs to be a match between a real TKD representative with an international WTF record and someone else with a comparable record in another art...they also should at least be of the same weight however that is not the most important
This fat - LOUIS is a PIG, he choose the worse fighter,If he is a real deal, challenge the real olympique medalist, and he'll get his ass rolled in no time.. This moron even can't kick right, maybe he is just a stupid person in real life, taught tkd for few weeks, and told to fight this BIG BELLIED PIG.
He did do one good side kick, but in general the TKD guy wasn't even a brown belt in his tech+ a sign of the mcdojos striking again. Me or any other martial artist who is skilled would just have kicked the guy in the balls....poor circular fighters= Kyukushin, Muay Thai, Goju Ryu, etc.... all weak to kicks to the balls because of their stance and its natural vulnerability :)
This is an awful display.....totally does not do Wing Chun justice......Grandmaster who?.......where was the Wing Chun Centerline defense system?......look more like a rushing bull than a kung fu master
Was that wing chun? Looked more like southern style praying mantis. didn't like both fighters very much, the tkd guy was not so good, also he looked easily 3 weight classes below the kung fu guy, which matters a lot when some one is bum rushing you all the time. That said, his tkd footwork was lousy . He just reacted assuming the guy was going to kick him. Good tkd which must rely on tkd must be able to make safety distance to counter attack by changing directions, not just retreat.
i do taekwondo myself and i noticed that when i watch videos of taekwondo vs any other martial art the taekwondoist always fights as if he was in a taekwondo competition. They don't kick below the legs don't use knees, i mean we are taught how. Not saying that he would have won if he did that but at least he has a better chance.
Good Yong Chun technique! I like how he neutralizes the TKD fighter's technique by taking away his range of effectiveness.
However, I have to say that I don't think much of the TKD fighter; He got in one good kick, but there was no power behind it. The Yong Chun boxer barely noticed it, and pressed him into a corner.
Those who gives shitty comment obviously doesn't see the point behind this. this is just a light contact sparring. If this white guy is to go for real. The TKD guy will probably land on the floor less than 5 sec show over.
Gay??!! You guys are idiots and totally miss the point here. The guy in white is a Wing-Chun expert and the orther guy a Taekwondo fighter. What is the weakness of a Taekwondo fighter??? Right.. close range battle and that is what the Master is doing. Going up close and using sticky hands to disable the attacks of the Taekwondo fighter. So go lecture yourself before typing ignorant posts. respect to both fighters.
this is really a gay fight...wing tsun throws series of punches like bullets (people get really hurt)...you should know any form of contest is extremly dangerous
I didn't see any TKD... All I saw was a fat WC guy picking on a person half his size. It's funny that whenever someone tries to prove the effectiveness of their style, they go out and find the least competent person (usually smaller too). Helio Gracie did just the opposite; he went and challenged everyone who was bigger and stronger, then defeated them! Gracie Jiu-jitsu baby!!!
There is no display of anyone that would come close to something called a grandmaster at anything. Some guy in a ugly white tee beating a 90 pound kid? Im very impressed, that must be the ability of a true grandmaster...............
My limited exposure to martial arts (6 years) allows me to set them both straigth in a very short time, and i walk humbly among anyone who wears the distinction of blackbelt or likewise in any martial art.
This looks like an after school fight. I doubt a "grandmaster" would be involved in any of this BS. And if a "grandmaster" of any martial arts wanted to test himself FOR REAL, there are plenty of guys training in full contact gyms who would be glad to oblige.
Don't listen to assholes. That was great use of sticky hands and swamping your opponent. Louis is a great fighter. Beat almost anyone. I am black belt in Five Ancestors Kung Fu.
"my" version of WT "Grandmasters". The ONLY way to claim your a grandmaster is through humble experiance and being trained by another grand master. All other "self-proclaimed" masters are flawed!
Regardless of what their doing..this is an embarassment to the martial arts community. Its about control...not about showing off. For that reason these people are poor students. and btw no Grand Master would show off.
Maybe in your vision of life. But all Wt-"grandmaters" today are simple selfproclaimed masters for commercial purposes. Before 1950 every Master in any Kind of Martials Arts has proven and accomplished theier strength on the street or in real duells at all. Fighting without a battle-opend mind is no Art, its fun and commercial shit for DBZ-watching kidz and ego-lowed-adults
so who is who, both are chinese and used kung fu, and kung fu bows. I think the guy in the white was getting owned big time by kicks, until they went to the ground and neither new what to do, and the bigger guy put a school yard headlock on him. They both are wing chun fighters that much is obvious. No tae kwon do here.
True that... But hes not a grand master, at least what I watched before I stopped the video, it looked like they wernt hitting hard. Im a Karate guy, and Karate is a hard style, like boxing. You dont use your energy, you just punch really hard lol I like boxing and Karate, I can understand it, you dont use energy and copy animals, you hit people. Find an opening and use a technique that fits a humans body, not a tiger lol Though I like some kung fu styles, KF just isent for me.
the guy in white had an excellent stratgey for the TKD guy...stay too close for him to use his legs and kicks, which is a major conrner stone of TKD. basically neutralized the other guy.
thats a very good damonstration , the person in the white shirt looks senior and he didn't get agressive even after being hit and still he kept attacking the taekwando guy. otherwise sometimes if you get hit by some1 you might just loose youre mind even in an excersie, but here what i can see self control.
this is actually a pretty good demonstration of WC. keep in mind, ny time you see Louis' hand touch or go near his face, that = punch to th face.
And the guy threw out a decent kick directly to the hips of Grandmaster Louis' and his stance was in no way uprooted, nor did he move backwards at all. Watch the vid again keeping those things in mind :)
also, suddenly moving in like he did completely nullifys kicks. A few times Louis saw he miht kick and IMMEDIATELY moved in the stop this and uproot the guy. There at the end the TKD guy tried a kick combo and his second kick actually was his demise and landed him on the ground.
This is silly. Why is the guy in the white T-shirt just displaying his crotch the whole time. Doesn't the other guy know what a snap kick is, either to blow out one of his balls or take a knee cap out? Finger stabs, anyone?
They know just enough to get really hurt where I hang out.
well... this tkd guy seemed like he knew what he was doing... well kinda. he seemed a little scared, but that doesnt mean that tkd sucks... this guy did no back kicks when the guy attacked he didnt punch didnt really move... except wen the guy attacked... and this was a GRANDMASTER vs probably a first degree black belt... which is not that good... so it was kinda not fare... but whatever. this is just my opinion... i might be wrong.
well i cant say i agree with sagagossard... u c i have done tkd for 6 yrs, and i recently started mma.. tkd is a very good martial art, and with the right trainer the kicks can be just as deadly or as good as a muay thai kick, which btw i do as
Well that depends on the skill and size of the people fighting. But i would guess bad for the wing chun. TKD is not as bad as it's reputation and a good place to start.
This video is cool. One of the better martial arts videos I've seen on youtube, where two people actually try out their art and. It is true that the TKD gets owned. He doesn't know how to not panic, and he doesn't know what to do when he can't kick from long range.
You guys watching this video plainly do not understand what is happening here. I don't fault you though, cause I understand chinese and you guys probably do not.
Its a typical exchange of ideas. Meant to show each user the stregnths and weaknesses of their respective game. I can't say much about the TKD guy because i know nothing of it, but the WC player is not bad at his art. He can close the distance and control it, and his inside game is nice with how he controls his opponents angles.
Use to follow all these martial arts when was younger. Have a lot of respect for Kung Fu styles. Wing Chun is one of the best styles out there!! close combat fighting!! Not sure of any wing chun mma fighters, but do know that the late great Bruce Lee was an expert in it and also Jackie Chan is a expert in it also. That got to say something about the style init.
??? he was the greatest martial artist that ever lived. thats coming from other masters of kung fu.Also, to create your own style - Jett kune do qualifies him as an expert init?'the art of fighting without fighting'
no mention about any bruce in the video. think if you read previous posts (starting from bombadoiog ) you would understand(maybe not, you don't seem that bright) that we are talking about Bruce Lee... idiot
fair enough. But conversation started where as the statement 'wing chun is shit' . i replied by using Bruce Lee as an example of wing chun. I also used Jackie Chan as an example...
Lol Krav Maga is "fast, deadly, and has no mercy." Wrong. ALL of that depends on the fighter. In actuality, all Martial Arts are "fast, deadly, and have no mercy..." when put into actual practice... yes... even soft styles. TKD doesn't count though... TKD is just the epitome of gayness in martial arts. Average length of time to get a black belt is less than a year? Come on.
Im not sure where u got the idea that it takes less than a year to get a black belt in tkd from, there are 10 grades in tkd each grading is roughly 3 months apart with the final grading 6 months apart before you get black, this means that to get a tkd black belt it takes about 3 to 3 and a half years. Any martial arts dojo that offers a black belt in under a year is bogus and is what is known as a "mcdojo" which is an establishment only interested in profit,
1 guy is taekwondoka? Pretty bad taekwondoka then. He needs to keep the wingchunner at distance with front kicks. I practice wing chun myself and that is the only thing that really works.
Everyone thinks their style is the best until they're in the fight. If the Muay-Thai guy did what you said there are ways of dealing with that in Wing Chun, and then there are probably counters to that in Muay-Thai. Wing Chun is a close, in your face style, I don't know a ton about Muay-Thai but it seems like distance can be advantageous. Most fighters don't know how to react to someone invading like that and taking their distance away. If you do that means you're a more experienced fighter.
In my exp. with other arts Thai training is the most brutal. We train under stress and pain continuously. Example Monday after a brutal 45 minute warm-up we were asked to partner up and eat 200 knees, spun around and thrown to the ground many times. I returned the love. Then class begun with defending against hard combos on each other . After 2 hours of getting beat down and exhausted - we sparred for only 8 rounds (2min) but told "Stand your ground or get out". Thai fighters know pain.
That's great, but it makes more sense not to get hit in the first place. You don't get many MT fighters who are still fighting into their late twenties because they are worn out. Not exactly a life choice. Sure body conditioning is important - but not body abuse.
For pros' yes late 20's early 30's and they retire. But thats like any sport. But for your casual Thai practitioners can get into their 50's. I sparred against a guy who is 52 - I need to repay a beating. I was exhausted and he got the better of me.
I do not believe any Art can be used effectively unless you have developed the conditioning and psychology. I have seen many experienced Kung-Fu guys crack easily in our class. They drop in, a light goes on in their head and they stay.
And then you suddently fight a Krav Maga student that gets beaten up daily and acts under stress as well. Krav Maga is fast, deadly and has no mercy. It's unnecessary to think what art is better. I'm not going to let myself get beaten up everyday so I become though? It's my aim not to get punched at all, so why let myself be beaten up in class?
As long as I can beat the crap out of street thugs and robbers I'm fine. I probably won't get a Muay Thai opponent against me that fast.
In all honesty I don't know much about Krav Maga and was recently going to try a class here locally. I heard good things about it though. I find the only way I learn is to get beat-up. I take Martial-arts for fitness and competition. Self-defense is a side benefit for me. Plus personally I like to feel bruised and beat-up after class. I feel as if I got a good workout, learned something and know I have to work harder next time. I just like it rough :O)
Yeah people are much different. I don't really like sparring because I like to use wrist-locks etc. In sparring these would only work if you first strike the opponent to a weak-point, almost knocking him out. In friendly sparring you can't do stuff like that so when I spar I feel like I'm very restraint in my techniques.
plus I don't like hurting people that I don't want to hurt.
I cannot emphasis enough of how important sparring is. Even if you sharpen your basics without the wrist locks. In my MMA class I put on ankle locks, arms bars, etc.. and my opponent (or I) will just tap out. Yes some restraint is necessary but you learn how to control yourself which is great training in itself. Without sparring you may never know full potential - Example in my first ever sparring match I was afraid to get hurt. That quickly changed and I kind of liked it.
I do sparring, and I also believe that it's important. But I don't like doing it. My main point is that there's no best art since people are different. Every person has a art that's perfect for him.
Here is what some people do not understand about street fighting. The so called "anything" goes is not entirely true. If you're encounter is with someone you bump into once in awhile at a bar, gym, etc and you agree to fight. A finger poke (or groin kick) to your opponent followed up by a beating will land you in the hospital or possibly dead next time. If you come under attack for no apparent reason then hey - Take a chunk out of him, bury him. What you don't want is your fight coming home
Crap skills.
TheWarmcube 3 months ago
Are they drunk ??
RiderJ2 3 months ago
ahahahahahhahahah grandmaster of what???
catto75 5 months ago
@catto75 Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
Jericho11894 4 months ago
Looks like a couple of beginners
kazakhseven 6 months ago
GM? uh, no. But everyone chill out, it was just a friendly spar by some different martial arts students, nobody was a master or trying to knock anybody out.
chickenthrower 7 months ago
TKD guy is very small compared to Wing Chun fighter. He is no physical match in upper body strength. It is well known that the kicker will lose their balance when the leg is caught or the centerline is disrupted. There are TKD fighters who can beat this WC man if they were stronger in the upper body and have better boxing skills. It's a physical and technical mismatch. This WC fighter has advantage in physique and skill set. Must develop all attributes not just kicks.
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@SkyDragonPorcupine I concur. Question is, how long did the WC fighter learn/practice as opposed to the TKD fighter?
DizzerJoz 4 months ago
TKD student got his ass handed to him.
Kungfumanifestation 8 months ago
Watta fatass motherfuckin loser!!! For the real chink deal YouTube TheUfchink. !!!!
TheUfchink 8 months ago
LOL， If he is GM. What Ip man is ? God ?
kungfughost 9 months ago
what are they playing? .....
xHizukax 9 months ago
It seems that people here are not understanding the the WC guy in white is so much in control that he does not have use any power. He is only demonstrating his technique and control. If he used his power and technique the TKD guy would be out in a sec. This is part of WC through positioning and close fighting to neutralize other styles.
kgershenson 10 months ago
wing chun white guy
keejay241 10 months ago
is that a grand master and is that a tkd guy woosshh??????
81nickyboy 11 months ago
@81nickyboy that so called tkd fighter is crap and no tkd fighter. that grand master aint shit either. He only sticks to his opponent with his hands in his face. Yes this is sparring, In reality this grandmaster would be shit also if he fought a real fighter.
minasz 11 months ago
Why do people even do these style vs style matches? the man that is most effective on the street has borrowed from both of these styles and more. Anybody who studies Jeet June Do concepts will learn that just like in MMA, the man who will reign on top in the streets is the man who knows how to effortlessly transition from style to style while under the emotional pressure that is involved in a street fight. Absorb what is useful and reject what does not work. This is just the beginnings of JKD
dss103 11 months ago
@PlsChangeYoName the white man attends proper training of wing chun and got experience, while the black one, sorry to say that, is too unexperienced, he cant even move, change directions and his feet are not flexible. i dont think he is an average tkd practicer
vn050290 11 months ago
very good fight, great to see how easy the white guy (probably wing chun) defeats the other guy. He really could have beat that dudes ass.
Lamerscop 1 year ago
I think this was a really good fight. The guy in white is very good with his hands. They didn't use strength or even punches, but technically not bad.
KroxiGore07 1 year ago
@KroxiGore07 yeah but in ITF TKD, if someone closes on your kick you should use punches/hand strikes, and I didn't see any attempt to do that here. Also ITF TKD teaches elbow and knee too.
neutrino78x 1 year ago
tkd fighters can't fight close range especially when their kicks get intercepted by a toe stomp or shin kick at the point of initiation, the guy in the white was totally messing with the guy and all he had to do the entire time was just step in and get in close range
byakuyakuchiki7 1 year ago
Grandmastarrr just playin arround
buri2zaemon 1 year ago
this is actual wing chun against street fighting, i d like to do chi sao with this guy someday !
WingChunHard 1 year ago
this is good if you know what to look at, he's going in trapping his hands and touching the dude without getting touched back. if he was fighting he'd obviously use his fists with more power, then you see where the tapping and slapping would change. c'mon guys look at it instead of bashing it soon as you see it. you can learn from anything, even a child.
GregYong 1 year ago
the man in white is probably using Wing Chun.
Punisher1408 1 year ago
This is BullShit
RFDIABOLUS 1 year ago
If he is TKD, you can tell the guy in black is WTF, he screams when he lands even a weak kick, surely because he is used to employing that tactic to make the judges believe he's earned a point during a point match. I'm surprised he didn't threw himself to the ground on purpose so the fight would be stopped. God I hate those sneaky cheaters.
Lestat220289 1 year ago
@PlsChangeYoName why wouldn't you compare two different martial arts how fucking stupid is that? If its judo and tkd thats another story but if your so sorry about one style you can compare it thats you not even one else.
shukaku 1 year ago
put grandmaster hee il cho in to take on grandmaster louis and see how long it lasts.
tallguy514 1 year ago
Well continuing the long bullshit series, "this against that", there are a couple of things I'd like to say too.
1. I see an intolerable difference in weight between the two.
2. I don't see any taekwondo here.
3. What exactly is the purpose of this?
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tallguy514 1 year ago
@ermalkoci He wasn't able to use the tkd if you actually knew how to fight you see grandmaster was preventing that and only playing around at the same time. The only time he was able to use even just a little was from a kick but then grandmaster would close the distance and read his movement so he couldn't do anything.
shukaku 1 year ago
@shukaku The TKD guy should have used speed and evasion. He seemed to stand there waiting for it. Also, his kicks don't look particularly powerful (at least, not as powerful as they could be).
moominpic 1 year ago
Bottom line, didn't matter what style this Kid was. He was very inexperienced in Martial Arts and Fighting period. Good thing the Teacher wasn't going hard on him. More like a friendly sparring session. He was easy on the Kid.
JimKelly47 1 year ago
@ All the idiots saying "OH NONE OF DEM ARE HAVE POWAHH DEY SUX!!" its a spar session retards. they are choosing NOT to hit each other hard (because of no protection) or else it would be a spar session now would it?
@ All the idiots saying "U GUYZ SUX I BET" etc etc fucking prove it, show us your videos of you beating up a kung fu instructor or TKD desciple, come on oh wait i forgot your just a keyboard warrior who talks shit.These 2 are probably more skilled that any of you will ever be.
Wooo1111 1 year ago
very good my freend .
alejandrocastr 1 year ago
what shitty rules are this??? this should be no holds barred, then we would see the best. but both guys suck hard.
Rnt911 1 year ago
WTF is this bullshit!!
MuayThaiChampMMA 1 year ago
u guys suck
princefagwad 1 year ago
Oh my god! This is so wack, the one with the black shirt doesnt have any power or direction in those 3 kick that he throw'
Menfis55 1 year ago
@HishirooxD i thought traditional tkd has punches and takedowns... from what ive heard WTF use only kicks...
BlackGhost574 1 year ago
Very amateur TKD kid getting dominated and pushed around in a slappy fight demonstration by an instructor who has at least 30-40 lbs. on him. Not very suspenseful...
dannysees 1 year ago
Both lack balance. So much that I wonder if there is indeed a grand master there
tekkenzaibatsumishim 1 year ago
guy in white seems to be holding back, not punching, just slapping him, getting the tkd guy into a short range which is optimal for wing chun but not for tkd. More like he's toying with the chap.
erwinsoo2 1 year ago
yeah those kicks werent any good against the bigger and heavier ..
rrrocha 1 year ago
Hahahaha.... they should just grab each other's hair. This is more like a chick fight!
BillGoulddAGMS 1 year ago
Both fight like girls.
giantposer 1 year ago
no grandmaster here, just a grand Poobah!!
scubagravy 1 year ago
pair of them are pussys id bet my last quid a good boxer would knock the fuck of them both
whiteasasheet 1 year ago
never grandmaster hahaha best joke ever
Leecouri 1 year ago
go staight in2 him don't allow him to get range, shut him down...nice demonstration of movement...however the tkd guy was useless!
mrdubcrazy 1 year ago
Which one of them was supposed to be doing Taekwondo?
RedhillTaekwondo 1 year ago
grandmaster my ass, the fella in black don't even know what his doing cause he got no fucken ARMS to punch and the other is a sloppy slapper. pathetic battle
MrNT08 1 year ago
whats that cat fight!?
samsung19951995 1 year ago
I tell u guys what! Im not impressed with either of them, those both suck ass!
jiggahippo 1 year ago
yeah the TKD guy sucks balls he is not a well trained TKD person....plus the TKD guy is 135 pounds and the other guy is like 175..there first can be no comparison cause the TKD guy sucks balls and is not well trained.....again there needs to be a match between a real TKD representative with an international WTF record and someone else with a comparable record in another art...they also should at least be of the same weight however that is not the most important
fifeg 1 year ago
This fat - LOUIS is a PIG, he choose the worse fighter,If he is a real deal, challenge the real olympique medalist, and he'll get his ass rolled in no time.. This moron even can't kick right, maybe he is just a stupid person in real life, taught tkd for few weeks, and told to fight this BIG BELLIED PIG.
dankukiwon 1 year ago
wow, both these guys look really bad.
FreddyFuFu 1 year ago
lol lame.. the skinny tkd guy is a total wimp.. probably WTF style hahahaha jk.
he should have done a hard ridge hand to the other guy's head. but WTF guys don't use hands so all he could do was slap.
masamune702 1 year ago
@masamune702
it's called an open hand spar... it's hard as hell using some techniques (like trapping) when you have gloves on
hentajus 1 year ago
This is kinda painful to watch.
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i agree, you can´t never compare a martial art versus another, each one has a different style and rules
dreduardoortiz 1 year ago
He did do one good side kick, but in general the TKD guy wasn't even a brown belt in his tech+ a sign of the mcdojos striking again. Me or any other martial artist who is skilled would just have kicked the guy in the balls....poor circular fighters= Kyukushin, Muay Thai, Goju Ryu, etc.... all weak to kicks to the balls because of their stance and its natural vulnerability :)
wiggalama 1 year ago
This is an awful display.....totally does not do Wing Chun justice......Grandmaster who?.......where was the Wing Chun Centerline defense system?......look more like a rushing bull than a kung fu master
JohnsonHYLau 1 year ago
Was that wing chun? Looked more like southern style praying mantis. didn't like both fighters very much, the tkd guy was not so good, also he looked easily 3 weight classes below the kung fu guy, which matters a lot when some one is bum rushing you all the time. That said, his tkd footwork was lousy . He just reacted assuming the guy was going to kick him. Good tkd which must rely on tkd must be able to make safety distance to counter attack by changing directions, not just retreat.
kmurdaya 1 year ago
i do taekwondo myself and i noticed that when i watch videos of taekwondo vs any other martial art the taekwondoist always fights as if he was in a taekwondo competition. They don't kick below the legs don't use knees, i mean we are taught how. Not saying that he would have won if he did that but at least he has a better chance.
vicious12394 1 year ago
Good Yong Chun technique! I like how he neutralizes the TKD fighter's technique by taking away his range of effectiveness.
However, I have to say that I don't think much of the TKD fighter; He got in one good kick, but there was no power behind it. The Yong Chun boxer barely noticed it, and pressed him into a corner.
mbutchin 1 year ago
honestly... i think the taekwondo fighter just sucked big time.....
melforce123 2 years ago
notice the master, hes not even moving at full speed, that tkd guy made a complete fool of himself
nightbreeze28 2 years ago
Those who gives shitty comment obviously doesn't see the point behind this. this is just a light contact sparring. If this white guy is to go for real. The TKD guy will probably land on the floor less than 5 sec show over.
jiapau 2 years ago
Gay??!! You guys are idiots and totally miss the point here. The guy in white is a Wing-Chun expert and the orther guy a Taekwondo fighter. What is the weakness of a Taekwondo fighter??? Right.. close range battle and that is what the Master is doing. Going up close and using sticky hands to disable the attacks of the Taekwondo fighter. So go lecture yourself before typing ignorant posts. respect to both fighters.
deniztasdelen 2 years ago 2
yeah the white is a wing chun master.look at his hands and moves carefully.
hellowsaw 2 years ago
what a fuckin joke
tigelgel 2 years ago
this is really a gay fight...wing tsun throws series of punches like bullets (people get really hurt)...you should know any form of contest is extremly dangerous
Sektorrules 2 years ago
two fags in a bitch fight.
bosinovaking 2 years ago
you just dont get the point...
RipperRooX 2 years ago
This is the gayest fight ever.
THELEGENDOFDARKNESS 2 years ago
i have no idea what's going on in this video, i have no clue what they're saying, and i have no clue what the point is meant to be.
but i do know it makes me miss the 80s /cry
alexp9999 2 years ago
KÖCSÖGKARATE!!!!XD
Alexej328 2 years ago
I didn't see any TKD... All I saw was a fat WC guy picking on a person half his size. It's funny that whenever someone tries to prove the effectiveness of their style, they go out and find the least competent person (usually smaller too). Helio Gracie did just the opposite; he went and challenged everyone who was bigger and stronger, then defeated them! Gracie Jiu-jitsu baby!!!
JJ2006Ice 2 years ago 3
Lol. Kimura.
Elbiatch 2 years ago
There is TKD, the just that the TKD guy has no space to perform his TKD skills
sylvester134 1 year ago
ha ha
grzegorz77madej 2 years ago
I think the white guy is really good at wing chun. Grandmaster good? who sets the bar?
Psynonymous 2 years ago
this is the biggest pussy fight i have ever seen, if either of them came at me the way they just did i would penny them quicktime
robertleella 2 years ago
There is no display of anyone that would come close to something called a grandmaster at anything. Some guy in a ugly white tee beating a 90 pound kid? Im very impressed, that must be the ability of a true grandmaster...............
My limited exposure to martial arts (6 years) allows me to set them both straigth in a very short time, and i walk humbly among anyone who wears the distinction of blackbelt or likewise in any martial art.
Peace
UndoubteblyT 2 years ago
i agree nothing special here just two kids clowning around
McMethad01 2 years ago
This looks like an after school fight. I doubt a "grandmaster" would be involved in any of this BS. And if a "grandmaster" of any martial arts wanted to test himself FOR REAL, there are plenty of guys training in full contact gyms who would be glad to oblige.
BushidoCode72 2 years ago 2
all u dumbasses saying its pussy sh1t dont know sh1t.
the guy in white is good.,,.
hes slapping and tapping him on purpose cos hes playing around.,,
if he used fists the guy in black would be down and not get up
gstartube 2 years ago 23
@gstartube exactly !
nimarockt 1 year ago
@gstartube this is just ridicoulus. Both of them are silly, not just the guy with white shirt.
The tae kwon do guy barely connected with a kick without his max strenght.
A good kick to the head would have Knocked him.
Bot of them were weak as hell
lastyou 1 year ago
@gstartube yea agreed... i mean wing chuns a killer..
guthoriantony 10 months ago
What is this pussy shit lol
codecaine 2 years ago
Don't listen to assholes. That was great use of sticky hands and swamping your opponent. Louis is a great fighter. Beat almost anyone. I am black belt in Five Ancestors Kung Fu.
AZURERACE 2 years ago
@ yosoy1loco:
"my" version of WT "Grandmasters". The ONLY way to claim your a grandmaster is through humble experiance and being trained by another grand master. All other "self-proclaimed" masters are flawed!
livin4apurpose 2 years ago
shit one twist kick and id have knocked them both on their asses
jagai 2 years ago
Shiiiiit, what a crap..
MrLipovsky 2 years ago
Regardless of what their doing..this is an embarassment to the martial arts community. Its about control...not about showing off. For that reason these people are poor students. and btw no Grand Master would show off.
livin4apurpose 2 years ago 2
Maybe in your vision of life. But all Wt-"grandmaters" today are simple selfproclaimed masters for commercial purposes. Before 1950 every Master in any Kind of Martials Arts has proven and accomplished theier strength on the street or in real duells at all. Fighting without a battle-opend mind is no Art, its fun and commercial shit for DBZ-watching kidz and ego-lowed-adults
yosoy1loco 2 years ago
ahahah this is shit
headtothesky 2 years ago
so who is who, both are chinese and used kung fu, and kung fu bows. I think the guy in the white was getting owned big time by kicks, until they went to the ground and neither new what to do, and the bigger guy put a school yard headlock on him. They both are wing chun fighters that much is obvious. No tae kwon do here.
JeffreyJamesLippold 2 years ago
No, it's not really that obvious - the black-shirted guy was using Taekwondo kicks. In all that I've studied, Wing Chun doesn't kick like that =/.
Dashblades2 2 years ago
rofl....so thats a grandmaster??an overhand or a hook of an amateur boxer would end his " hand with piss then wipe-to- the- face " technique.."...^_^
peace!
deidei20 2 years ago
True that... But hes not a grand master, at least what I watched before I stopped the video, it looked like they wernt hitting hard. Im a Karate guy, and Karate is a hard style, like boxing. You dont use your energy, you just punch really hard lol I like boxing and Karate, I can understand it, you dont use energy and copy animals, you hit people. Find an opening and use a technique that fits a humans body, not a tiger lol Though I like some kung fu styles, KF just isent for me.
GuamKomudo 2 years ago
its called getin so close u just wail ur hands in there face,.
bbbd 2 years ago
the tkd guy is a fake ass sucker if he was really good he would sis step an kick the fat dud in his head.
sanddocon 2 years ago
'grandmaster' louis. what a joke.
this is not a good demonstration of wing chun
No footwork, no stance, no structure, no nothing. Just a guy in a white shirt going forward with is hands outsretched. *sigh*
ozzie1246 2 years ago 4
the guy in white had an excellent stratgey for the TKD guy...stay too close for him to use his legs and kicks, which is a major conrner stone of TKD. basically neutralized the other guy.
Gambitgirl1974 2 years ago
i dont get it
cassaroll 2 years ago
thats a very good damonstration , the person in the white shirt looks senior and he didn't get agressive even after being hit and still he kept attacking the taekwando guy. otherwise sometimes if you get hit by some1 you might just loose youre mind even in an excersie, but here what i can see self control.
TheDanceofjoy 2 years ago
It looks like hes just been to the toilet and is trying to wipe piss on the other guys face...
MuscleChimp 2 years ago
what are they DOING??
CRISMIN00 2 years ago 2
what the fuck are these chinks doing
d2clansorc 2 years ago
@d2clansorc
planning how to doink ya' mamma
mentalmetal1 2 years ago
friendly match.... yeah grandmaster my ass.... louis hand touch useless in mma
nigg00f 2 years ago
tkd = bag of shite
malsahth 2 years ago
kicks looks cool but sux in streetfighting
FoGGeRdk 2 years ago
this is actually a pretty good demonstration of WC. keep in mind, ny time you see Louis' hand touch or go near his face, that = punch to th face.
And the guy threw out a decent kick directly to the hips of Grandmaster Louis' and his stance was in no way uprooted, nor did he move backwards at all. Watch the vid again keeping those things in mind :)
admbrns 2 years ago
also, suddenly moving in like he did completely nullifys kicks. A few times Louis saw he miht kick and IMMEDIATELY moved in the stop this and uproot the guy. There at the end the TKD guy tried a kick combo and his second kick actually was his demise and landed him on the ground.
admbrns 2 years ago
its not abt fair or what, they said they just wanna play around, its a friendly match, nothing serious
TangASD 2 years ago
a fat punch of pussy this fat boy, i would just flip him with on finger.
mickyhuynh 2 years ago
This is silly. Why is the guy in the white T-shirt just displaying his crotch the whole time. Doesn't the other guy know what a snap kick is, either to blow out one of his balls or take a knee cap out? Finger stabs, anyone?
They know just enough to get really hurt where I hang out.
laughingtiger123 2 years ago
retard.
synkronyk 2 years ago
well... this tkd guy seemed like he knew what he was doing... well kinda. he seemed a little scared, but that doesnt mean that tkd sucks... this guy did no back kicks when the guy attacked he didnt punch didnt really move... except wen the guy attacked... and this was a GRANDMASTER vs probably a first degree black belt... which is not that good... so it was kinda not fare... but whatever. this is just my opinion... i might be wrong.
XxNate831xX 2 years ago
well i cant say i agree with sagagossard... u c i have done tkd for 6 yrs, and i recently started mma.. tkd is a very good martial art, and with the right trainer the kicks can be just as deadly or as good as a muay thai kick, which btw i do as
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fredocorleone47 2 years ago
wing chun's close quarter combat style counters tkd
GalaxyIceAge 2 years ago 3
they both fight like girls
freshprinceofeugene 2 years ago
,,,,,,,,,but would still kick ur ass!
cybernoodle1 2 years ago
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calam05 2 years ago
how would an amatuer wing chun go against experienced tkd?
calam05 2 years ago
Well that depends on the skill and size of the people fighting. But i would guess bad for the wing chun. TKD is not as bad as it's reputation and a good place to start.
mrWrayburn 2 years ago
typical wtf tkd... with their ahoo aetse yells and no power nor skill at all
sagagossard 2 years ago 3
where's those styling TKD kicks? lol
and3833 2 years ago
This video is cool. One of the better martial arts videos I've seen on youtube, where two people actually try out their art and. It is true that the TKD gets owned. He doesn't know how to not panic, and he doesn't know what to do when he can't kick from long range.
ryanandtricia 2 years ago 2
No kicks not Tae Kwon Do
krisnasan 2 years ago
Nice Job bully- why don't you pick on someone your on size.
1ToNJaB 2 years ago
LOL grandmaster out weighs the dude by like 40 pounds.....
mani101 2 years ago
You guys watching this video plainly do not understand what is happening here. I don't fault you though, cause I understand chinese and you guys probably do not.
Its a typical exchange of ideas. Meant to show each user the stregnths and weaknesses of their respective game. I can't say much about the TKD guy because i know nothing of it, but the WC player is not bad at his art. He can close the distance and control it, and his inside game is nice with how he controls his opponents angles.
dogabutila 2 years ago
in my honest opinion. a lot of mma "fighters" on youtube have no respect of other / traditional arts...
ch0wsiub0w 2 years ago 5
what da fuck is this man ??
looks like BALLET !!!!
this tkd dude is fucking bad!!!
and wing chum is shit !!!
were is wing chum in mma ?
somebody knows a wing chum mma fighter ??
NO
of course
bombadoiog 2 years ago
Use to follow all these martial arts when was younger. Have a lot of respect for Kung Fu styles. Wing Chun is one of the best styles out there!! close combat fighting!! Not sure of any wing chun mma fighters, but do know that the late great Bruce Lee was an expert in it and also Jackie Chan is a expert in it also. That got to say something about the style init.
kinggusak 2 years ago
bruce was no expert.
synkronyk 2 years ago
??? he was the greatest martial artist that ever lived. thats coming from other masters of kung fu.Also, to create your own style - Jett kune do qualifies him as an expert init?'the art of fighting without fighting'
kinggusak 2 years ago
hes talking bout bruce in the video idiot.
leetstyle 2 years ago
no mention about any bruce in the video. think if you read previous posts (starting from bombadoiog ) you would understand(maybe not, you don't seem that bright) that we are talking about Bruce Lee... idiot
kinggusak 2 years ago
video discription "Watch how the TKD fighter, Bruce gets owned by Grandmaster Louis."
NewOscarGuy 2 years ago
fair enough. But conversation started where as the statement 'wing chun is shit' . i replied by using Bruce Lee as an example of wing chun. I also used Jackie Chan as an example...
kinggusak 2 years ago
i thought that fight was a complete joke !!!!
kmcmon 2 years ago 2
Lol Krav Maga is "fast, deadly, and has no mercy." Wrong. ALL of that depends on the fighter. In actuality, all Martial Arts are "fast, deadly, and have no mercy..." when put into actual practice... yes... even soft styles. TKD doesn't count though... TKD is just the epitome of gayness in martial arts. Average length of time to get a black belt is less than a year? Come on.
mrsarcastic1988 2 years ago
Im not sure where u got the idea that it takes less than a year to get a black belt in tkd from, there are 10 grades in tkd each grading is roughly 3 months apart with the final grading 6 months apart before you get black, this means that to get a tkd black belt it takes about 3 to 3 and a half years. Any martial arts dojo that offers a black belt in under a year is bogus and is what is known as a "mcdojo" which is an establishment only interested in profit,
themusicman555 2 years ago
that's true. i'll give it at least like the next year of august to get my brown belt, and then 6 months later to get my black.
smokintheblaze 2 years ago
GAY with a capital "G"!!!
cornerstone111 2 years ago
1 guy is taekwondoka? Pretty bad taekwondoka then. He needs to keep the wingchunner at distance with front kicks. I practice wing chun myself and that is the only thing that really works.
wingchun001 2 years ago
A Muay-Thai practitioner would have clinched, spun and kneed that Wing-chun guy in seconds if he got that close.
iApna 2 years ago
Everyone thinks their style is the best until they're in the fight. If the Muay-Thai guy did what you said there are ways of dealing with that in Wing Chun, and then there are probably counters to that in Muay-Thai. Wing Chun is a close, in your face style, I don't know a ton about Muay-Thai but it seems like distance can be advantageous. Most fighters don't know how to react to someone invading like that and taking their distance away. If you do that means you're a more experienced fighter.
glock22ownr 2 years ago
In my exp. with other arts Thai training is the most brutal. We train under stress and pain continuously. Example Monday after a brutal 45 minute warm-up we were asked to partner up and eat 200 knees, spun around and thrown to the ground many times. I returned the love. Then class begun with defending against hard combos on each other . After 2 hours of getting beat down and exhausted - we sparred for only 8 rounds (2min) but told "Stand your ground or get out". Thai fighters know pain.
iApna 2 years ago
"Thai fighters know pain."
That's great, but it makes more sense not to get hit in the first place. You don't get many MT fighters who are still fighting into their late twenties because they are worn out. Not exactly a life choice. Sure body conditioning is important - but not body abuse.
SwanseaDriver 2 years ago
For pros' yes late 20's early 30's and they retire. But thats like any sport. But for your casual Thai practitioners can get into their 50's. I sparred against a guy who is 52 - I need to repay a beating. I was exhausted and he got the better of me.
I do not believe any Art can be used effectively unless you have developed the conditioning and psychology. I have seen many experienced Kung-Fu guys crack easily in our class. They drop in, a light goes on in their head and they stay.
iApna 2 years ago
And then you suddently fight a Krav Maga student that gets beaten up daily and acts under stress as well. Krav Maga is fast, deadly and has no mercy. It's unnecessary to think what art is better. I'm not going to let myself get beaten up everyday so I become though? It's my aim not to get punched at all, so why let myself be beaten up in class?
As long as I can beat the crap out of street thugs and robbers I'm fine. I probably won't get a Muay Thai opponent against me that fast.
lordtains 2 years ago
In all honesty I don't know much about Krav Maga and was recently going to try a class here locally. I heard good things about it though. I find the only way I learn is to get beat-up. I take Martial-arts for fitness and competition. Self-defense is a side benefit for me. Plus personally I like to feel bruised and beat-up after class. I feel as if I got a good workout, learned something and know I have to work harder next time. I just like it rough :O)
iApna 2 years ago
Yeah people are much different. I don't really like sparring because I like to use wrist-locks etc. In sparring these would only work if you first strike the opponent to a weak-point, almost knocking him out. In friendly sparring you can't do stuff like that so when I spar I feel like I'm very restraint in my techniques.
plus I don't like hurting people that I don't want to hurt.
lordtains 2 years ago
I cannot emphasis enough of how important sparring is. Even if you sharpen your basics without the wrist locks. In my MMA class I put on ankle locks, arms bars, etc.. and my opponent (or I) will just tap out. Yes some restraint is necessary but you learn how to control yourself which is great training in itself. Without sparring you may never know full potential - Example in my first ever sparring match I was afraid to get hurt. That quickly changed and I kind of liked it.
iApna 2 years ago
I do sparring, and I also believe that it's important. But I don't like doing it. My main point is that there's no best art since people are different. Every person has a art that's perfect for him.
lordtains 2 years ago
i know exactly what u mean
nickscott10A 2 years ago
lol. that would be the most annoyingest attack coming from anybody. cant see cause his hand is in his face constantly.
1kr 2 years ago
If they weren't just playing around, the hand in the face would have been fingers in eyes.
SwanseaDriver 2 years ago 2
Here is what some people do not understand about street fighting. The so called "anything" goes is not entirely true. If you're encounter is with someone you bump into once in awhile at a bar, gym, etc and you agree to fight. A finger poke (or groin kick) to your opponent followed up by a beating will land you in the hospital or possibly dead next time. If you come under attack for no apparent reason then hey - Take a chunk out of him, bury him. What you don't want is your fight coming home
iApna 2 years ago