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  • VV

    I'm undecided as to what preceded the universe. Thermodynamic laws suggest that energy is indestructible. However, some say that the total energy potential of the universe is zero. That the universe is simply a quantum fluctuation.

    It does seem that the universe exists within 'something' higher dimensions?

    Basically, I don't believe in gods because there are so many, and their stories conflict with each other, with themselves, and with science.

    Cheers!

  • Well you seem like a nice guy. That shirt is mesmerizing by the way.

    I believe that the universe is cooling and condensing due largely to it's expansion. As a result, atoms fuse, chemicals are formed, and that life is pretty much an inevitable result of that exponential process.

    What awaits after death is exactly the same as what was prior to conception. nada.

    I believe that the universe is ~14 billion years old, and that time, space, and matter began at that point.

    VVV

  • Well you seem like a nice guy. That shirt is mesmerizing by the way.

    I believe that the universe is cooling and condensing due largely to it's expansion. As a result, atoms fuse, chemicals are formed, and that life is pretty much an inevitable result of that exponential process.

    What awaits after death is exactly the same as what was prior to conception. nada.

    I believe that the universe is 14 billion years old, and that time, space, and matter began at that point.

    VVV

  • At 1:24 you ask the question why do we exist. To an atheist that's some what of a loaded question because it makes the assumption that there is a reason for our existence, or some being to which our existence matters which contradicts the beliefs of atheism. To an atheist that isn't really answerable. I believe I exist of because of cause and effect, which can be interpreted entirely as chance but moreover probability. Although believing that makes me an atheist, not all atheists believe that.

  • Yeah I like this guy he seems open minded. In regards to your reasoning that something must of created the universe because of infinite time. You don't have to support the big bang theory to be an atheist however it is what you say we believe in so i will address that. Before the big bang there were no dimensions and no light. Without this there was also was no time. Not an infinite amount of time but the concept of time didn't apply because the was no space and light by which to define it. :)

  • I don't think there are gods, not saying that I know there are no gods but I see no reason to believe in them.

    Only a god could convince me of its existance.

    Your premise that the start of everything was through god but god doesn't need a start is also not coherent in my opinion. Placing a god in as the answer to something you don't know is a cop out.

  • @Paetaor Religion: Humanities greatest intellectual cop-out.

  • The day that you stop questioning and doubting everything you come across in life, is the day that you surrender your free will and submit to being a slave. That is the main reason I'm an atheist.

  • No disrespect but, it seems that religious people ALWAYS want quick and easy answers.You really should put your bible down and read a book of physics.

    From your explanation of time -it's clear that your information is erroneous.

    You say All of this couldn't have come from nothing, that it needs a catalist- Yet, when it comes to YOUR god ,the rules change--Could it be that you can actually see and feel everything around you and not your god?Maybe that's why he is magical??

  • So much to answer -- in the meantime, may I say that you are a very respectful and obviously well intentioned man. I admire that very much. I hope to have time to explain my conversion to atheism... although open to further understanding, and not blocked on changing back if given reasonable proof of God. In the meantime, bravo for being exactly the kind of person I would enjoy sharing thoughts with.

  • I'm an agnostic atheist. That means I do not BELIEVE nor do I KNOW there is a god. What do I "believe"? Why does anyone need to believe anything without proof? I don't need to believe anything. Nor am I arrogant enough to claim to KNOW impossible things to be true. Your citing the universe as some sort of proof of god is giggle worthy. It is simply proof of the universe, 'sans' evidence of god. The bigger question is not why don't Atheists believe in nonsense, but why do you?

  • How did you come to the conclusion there is no God

    >I have very complexed family background. My mom's family is buddhist (but my aunt is catholic now and mom is STRONG atheist), My dad's family is christian (my dad was used to be a christian). Because of this complexed religious family background, when something happened I prayed to both Jesus and Buddha. Of course, prayer never made a single change in the situation. I was also influenced heavily by my mom, who also changed my dad into atheism.

  • So this is the main point what I'm trying to say:

    I believe that the power of our human heart will make our society a better place. Though I think perfect society-Utopia- is impossible, our efforts of trying to make Utopia society will eventually make Earth a better world.

  • I am atheist and I believe in human power; but this human power doesn't mean 'science power' because the development of science has destroyed too much of Earth environment, though it brought us some impressive improvements in life (like medical science).

    The man power what I'm referring to is the power of our hearts. We run to help people in Japan not because our logic tells us to do so, but because humanity in our heart tells us to go help them.

  • Where was God on Friday when Japan was destroyed? Or was that free will at work? I didn't watch your video. I paused it because I didn't want to hear it your stupidity. Why don't you just believe and leave others alone to believe as they wish? There is no God. I say this knowing that your good book says saying such is the only unforgivable sin. So if I'm wrong then its too late to save me so don't waste your time writing back

  • As an atheist I can't say for certain that a god don't exist. I do leave a slight possibility What i can say is that without evidence here is no reason to believe that one does. As for the abrahamic god I'm certain that he's non-existent. I'm also anti-theist based on the long and ongoing violence in the extreme that absolute religious conviction creates. T he world would be a safer place if there were no religion.

  • Because there is no evidence to show a god, and there will never be any evidence for the existence of a god. Any defense for a theistic god will simply "how do you explain this" and "you can't explain that"

  • > An infinite number of events cannot be transversed.

    Well, the problem here is that you're confusing the concept of infinity with numbers. It doesn't work that way. But here's an even simpler answer.

    If we assume there is an infinite number of events in the past, going on forever, we have to accept that infinity must be defined. That is to say, it's occured in the past, so it MUST have a number.

    Then you can easily plod through getting to current time.

  • > How did you come to the conclusion there is no God.

    I didn't. I don't believe in him simply because I have not been presented sufficient evidence to believe in God.

    > What is the explanation for why you and I exist?

    Why does there need to be a reason? Do you derive meaning from some lofty goal or do you live your life within the boundaries of our reality?

    > Where did it all come from, where did it all start?

    Simply put, we don't have the answer to that yet.

  • Everyone starts life without god. God is concept that is learned much later.

    I wasn't convinced by any of the arguments for god so I remain without belief.

  • It is not that I believe in the nonexistence of the Christian God,

    it is a matter of that I do not believe in the existence of the Christian God.

    I do not know, nor do I claim to know, how the unvierse came to be. I do know that I reject the unconvincing explanation Christianity has to offer.

  • I myself have been a student of civilisation and human religions for many years. Christianity itself is nothing new. There is nothing novel or fresh about it. It is a cobbling together of other ideas that came before it. Eternal life, forgiveness, love from a deity, Heaven, Hell, angels, demons, Satan, these are all concepts that existed before Christ and his followers created their new religion. There are more books beyond the Bible. Read some of them. Good luck in your search, Aleethis! :)

  • The universe IS space and time. They are not separate. We do not need to be puzzled by what came before the universe. Since the Universe IS space and time, nothing came before the Universe. Time and space did not exist. There wasn't even nothing, for noting is at least a concept, and there were no concepts. This is unfathomable to the human mind, because we are born, live and die. We experience the Universe in terms of time and space.

  • These are questions that have plagued humanity for as long as they have been able to reason. Plato came up with some clever solutions, but they too were bound by humanity's perception. Note too how miniscule a time scale the Biblical story accounts for. Humanity is an atomic sized blip in the scale of time, living on an electron sized blip in the scale of the universe. How can we comprehend the universe? But just because we cannot fathom it does not mean we need to invent a creator, or believe.

  • As for your cosmological questions, my hunch is that the universe is beyond explanation. I can accept that much more readily than I can a magical (and he is no more than a magical being) being creating it all. The universe IS both space and time. Neither can exist without the other. The Universe does not need a beginning, as we understand it. Humans are bound to seek a beginning, because we live within the confines of space and time, and we seek to understand it within terms we comprehend.

  • The only thing that makes him more real than any of the other countless forgotten gods is your belief in him. This is of course only subjective reality. He is real to you, and to others, but not to me, nor to most of the humans who have ever lived. Just like Zeus, Marduk, Baal, Thor and all the others, Christ will pass and he will one day be forgotten.

  • Just because you believe in God does not make him any more real than any of the countless superstitions that have come and gone. In the grand scale of humanity's time on earth and counting the vast numbers of humans who have lived, Christianity is in fact a mere blip on the radar screen. It has been around for 2000 years, humanity for 100,000. The percentage of humans believing in Christ during those 2000 years has ranged from less than 1% to a height of about 25-40%.

  • The stretching of credibility to belive in a super powerful being who brought the world into existence is far greater than that needed to believe in a universe which simply came into existence or always has been. Surely the creator must be more complicated, which raises the obvious and often repeated question: who created the creator? This question is often repeated because it has never been answered. Simply saying God is beyond space and time is avoiding the question.

  • In short: I don't see a reason why I should believe in a God.

  • For all you imbecil atheists out there,,(yes; even we have some) Atheism is NOT a belief!!!! Atheism only questions the claims of others regarding their deities,,,,,,,,,,that easy....as a matter of fact if you subscribe to any religion in particular then YOU ARE an atheist since you question the veracity of someone else's claims regarding their deity........tsk tsk tsk beam me up scotty there is no intelligent life down here( yes I know; he never said it)..allright beam me up scotty!!!

  • I guess that when believe in a magical invisible heavenly entity is the norm then,it is no great leap to believe that this being is beyond this physical universe with powers to enter our realm. doesn't it feel funny that your god is the right one and that other religions' deities are false,,aren't all the rest of the people( billions by the way) wrong and you right?? this powerful being just is unable to "SHOW UP" why is that?spare me the rapture silly talk..

  • Funny how christians question the genesis of it all,funny how they say that all of it couldn't just have been,funny how they question singularities and the like,,,,NO NO NO it couldn't just have always been in a different state and have morphed into our universe bla bla bla,,,,but when someone asks the same question regarding their god then is ok to say that it is always been..he is here but not here! have your cake and eat it 2 . HHmmm?? how convenient,,throw metaphysical mambojambo talk.

  • lack belief in god because there are a lack of evidence in god.

  • @tw0m0ch You shouldn't lack belief my friend. There is evidence all around you, you just need to open your eyes. If you seek God with all your heart you find him Jeremiah 29:13 You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart. When you find him he will reveal himself to you and then you will realise that God is real and living. God bless

  • @spea93 i tried doing that.... nothing happened.

  • @tw0m0ch Oh did you, well maybe when you were doing it you had doubt in your heart, which would of stopped him from revealing himself :/

  • @spea93 why wouldn't i have doubt in my heart and why wouldn't your god reveal to me.... just because i don't believe or i doubt his existence?

  • @tw0m0ch Well as it says in the Bible you shouldn't have doubt. Just ask him to reveal himself to you and try believe as much as you can and also when he reveals himself he wont just appear in your room it will be something like a feeling or you can hear a voice or something but you will definitely know its him. God bless

  • @spea93 huh? well, i definetly heard a voice... it was my own voice.O.O i didn't feel anything.... only complete emptyness.

  • @tw0m0ch Oh right i see :/ search for 'no word from God' and it should be the top one, the man will have a big beard thats how you can tell. Try watching it, it might help. You could also visit his website 'finalcall07' this is a good website to look at.

  • Atheism is not a belief, it's a lack of belief. So ideas that all atheist think alike are misguided. You are an atheist in regards to Thor, Apollo, and all but one of the tens of thousands of gods that men have imagined. I reject your god for the same reason you reject the others, lack of evidence. You questions are valid, have you studied cosmology, astronomy, evolution? Saying "god did it" only passes the buck. You are an intelligent person, learn the answers that science has discovered.

  • There is no evidence of god. I am unable to distinguish the substance of a god belief from a belief in Santa Claus, Sasquatch or fairies. I am also unable to distinguish the pitch from that of a con man or a pushy used car salesman. The god believer position offers no intrinsic substantive way to know that god exists. It is therefore undifferentiated from a pure delusion. And finally, belief is just a bad substitute for reasoning.

  • And finally (I apologize for the 2500-char comment), what I believe:

    My goal in life is to ensure the survival of human civilization in a meaningful form for as long as possible; I believe that sentient life is the most valuable of all things, and as such should be preserved along with its accomplishments and encouraged to grow, develop, and advance. I believe there is nothing more dangerous than an apocalyptic dogma - whether religious, political, environmental, or nihilistic.

  • [cont'd]

    Perhaps more importantly, even if there was no explanation, that does not necessitate a deity, much less a particular one.

    Originally, most if not all the questions were answered with "god did it". As is now obvious, that has been proven false in so many cases - we now know how life diversifies, how planets and solar systems form, et cetera - and there is no reason to believe the origin of life and the universe will be any different.

  • [cont'd]

    It is critical to note that quantum mechanics is a keystone in the theories that involve an origin; ergo, our intuition is useless in such matters. Unbelievable as it is, "basic" rules like cause and effect do not apply on the quantum scale. Thus, a question such as "before" may be meaningless.

    The most radical hypothesis is that this universe is but a bubble in a multiverse, and arose from an interaction between branes; this idea is consistent with a leading theory.

    [cont'd]

  • [cont'd]

    Science is rather rapidly filling in the "how/why" questions of existence - one of the main uses of deities - rendering them unnecessary. Further, it is rather ludicrous to believe that if there is some supreme being who created the entire universe, that they would care so deeply about, as Carl Sagan would have put it, a Pale Blue Dot.

    Three, there are many hypotheses regarding the origin of the universe; these range from the "always existed" to "quantum inflation" to M-theory.

    [cont'd]

  • This question splits to three branches:

    One, regarding religious gods: I came to the conclusion the religions are false because they all conflict, they all make false claims - creation myths being a good example - and many are internally inconsistent and deeply "un-godlike".

    Two, regarding gods in general: I do not believe that there is a god - but I will not assert that I *know* there is none - because its/their existence has not been demonstrated. [cont'd]

  • To me, the default position is no God. For me to start believing, I need evidence. There is none. For example, if someone told you there was an ocean god that controlled the tides and storms, wouldn't you demand some pretty hard core proof? Yet such a God is not even all powerful and all knowing and all good, which is a far more fantastic assertion, let alone all the other fantastic assertions. See the excellent video "How to convert an atheist" for what it would take to prove God to me.

  • What do I believe in as an atheist? I believe what can be demonstrated. That for which there is evidence. That which is logical. Science and reasoning. I believe that all knowledge is tentative, and the more evidence, the more we can observe, the greater our confidence can be in certain things, but we must always hold the door open to new or modified knowledge. I do not believe in magic, or other superstition, including astrology, demons, angels, heaven or hell, souls, ghosts, or gods.

  • I don't believe in god simply because I cannot find direct evidence of his existence.

  • Put it like this: there is no explanation to how we exist. The big Bang theory? Where did all the matter come from? God? Where did he come from? It doesn't matter HOW we got here, it matters what we DO while we are here. And why don't I believe in God? Do you worship Zeus? No. why? There is no evidence that Zeus is real. There is no evidence God exists. It's the same principle.

  • He doesn't miraculously communicate with us... It's called insanity.

  • A belief in something is justified if there are facts or logic in sufficient support of it. The reason you believe in a god is because other people told you about it, and encouraged belief in it, almost certainly when you were young (not because of facts or logic). You can understand my reasons for atheism instantly, as when I ask you if you believe in 9 foot tall invisible rabbits, you will say no, because there is no evidence or logic supporting it for you. It's the very same reason.

  • The invisible and the non-existant look very much alike.

  • I'll answer your question with another question. How can you believe in something based on complete speculation with no objective reasoning of existence?

  • God is man-invented for man. We invented the principle of a God to reassure us in insecure times and to try to find an answer to our existance. It's easyer to depend on a God than to depend on ourself. As you can read, I don't beleive in any God. I live my life the best I can and I am a good person. I am very happy that way. But I respect the people who beleive in a God. As long as they don't fight over their religion like we see in certain countries. (forgive my English, I'm French speaking).

  • i believe in a certain energy that exists as a human nexus. the identical energy and collective memory of our race as a whole. you call it god, i call it energy, other people call it nature. its all the same thing, just in a different forms.

  • I am Athesit and have studied deeply the concept of God. I dont believe in God because of a fundamental lack of evidence. I dont believe in fairies, the bogeyman, Thor, or dragons for the same reason.

  • @ronpaulbot : quote " Nothing could have created the universe, because creation requires time, which is exactly one of the things that would have had to be created."

    am a Muslim, and Allah mentioned in the Holy Quran that he created the whole Universe in 7 days :) and come to think of it, we have only 7 days per week :)

  • Very simple. There is no credible evidence for a god or gods.

  • i think athiest need us christians more than we need them. because if there were no christians or religious ppl athiest wouldnt have anything to talk about in youtube lol. us belivers have a greater purpose. a christians goal is to save people and let them know of jesus. athiests goal is to disprove christians and talk bad about everyone that belives in god. if there were no religions there wouldnt be such a thing as athiest just food for thought... jesus ftw

  • I was baptised a Christian, became an atheist and now I'm a Pantheist - The reason I can't believe in the Christian concept of God is simple, the religion preaches monotheism and then says theres an other lesser God and he is evil, making the religion Ditheistic; thus contradicting the whole point of the religion. Also, the religion is Ditheistic in the sense many Christians pray to both Jesus and God, this is also an example of Ditheistic worship, not Monotheism

    I appreciate your asking

  • Satan (Lucifer, Beelzebub etc) has never been described as a god of any sort. It is clear in scripture that Satan is subservient to God. He cannot do anything save God allow it (story of Job and others) You also have a problem with the trinity, I see. The Christian God is one God who is expressed in three persons. God the Father, Son, and Spirit. The Father- Creator, The Son (Jesus)- God's earthly manifestation, bringer of salvation, The Spirit- God's active force in the world. contact for more.

  • I like this guy. He's understanding, friendly and eager to learn why we believe what we believe in. Also he, unlike many theists, doesn't bash us for what we believe in and is curious to our beliefs. As for my reasoning, i'm lazy right now so read what "RationalConclusion", "SteveIsTheMan1990" & what "di739" said. That's not my full beliefs, but in a nutshell it could be described as that.

  • I, like the majority of atheists haven't, as you put it, come to the conclusion that "there is no god". We simply don't believe in god due to the fact we haven't seen good enough evidence.

    Believing that X doesn't exist and not having a belief that X exists are two different things.

  • I don't belief in God because:

    1) He only answers my prayers when it could've been a coincidence

    2) Theistic holy texts contradict themselves + appear to have been concocted and edited over time

    3) Religion causes fanatacism and division

    4) Most atheists have researched other religions thoroughly, even more-so than theists who bash the opinions of atheists who have facts and evidence on their side.

    5) Religion causes fanatacism and conviction causes convicts.

    suck on it.

  • You don't want to demean what I believe? Do you understand that insisting that god is real when I have studied mythology is demeaning to my intelligence after I've spent years studying the various gods man has made up? If I told you that you must respect the fact that I think I was captured by aliens, taken to their planet and made the True God of humans and then returned to earth can you really just say ok that's fine and not demean such false notions?

  • I am also a theist. I believe in the tree god. his son treesus christ was cut-up, made into a cross and nailed to a man. He died for the sins of trees across the world. Can u refute that?

  • Why you and I exist at all?

    By this question, I assume you mean "why is there something rather than nothing". The honest answer is, we don't know.

    Since something cannot come from nothing, the universe is eternal. Time has a beginning, just as North has a beginning at the north pole. But this does not mean the earth was created at the north pole. Nothing could have created the universe, because creation requires time, which is exactly one of the things that would have had to be created.

  • Question: How did I come to the conclusion 'there is no god'?

    Answer: The word "Atheist" can mean different things to different people. I personally prefer to say "I have no belief in a God" or "I lack belief in gods", which is very different from me saying I know God does not exists.

    The reason i lack this belief, is because I do not have personal evidence of his existance that I accept after scrutiny. And I do not trust "experts" who claim they have evidence.

  • Question: What do I believe and why do I believe it.

    Answer: Belief and non-belief are not black and white ideas. There are many things I have strong belief in, because I personally have seen evidence to support that belief.

    I have a moderate belief in some other things because experts I trust (because of previous experience), have examined the evidence.

    In other cases I have little belief because I do not have enough knowledge about it or am skeptical.

  • Well, for your first question:

    I do not believe in God or any form of such because there is no evidence and no good reason for me to do so.

    It is not that we don't believe in anything, it is we reject the belief of a God. We believe in probably mostly everything else you believe in, ranging from love, happiness, and family to name a few. Time is a creation of humanity. Not saying the seconds passing now are our creation, the concept of time is man made. As for the beginning, no one knows.

  • you have a nice voice lol

    but i dont believe in god.

    it would take to long to explain :D

  • first it's not supose to be a post for athist who do not believe in god because what the question is ask to.... anyway

    and second i dont believe in god because nothing prove is existence

  • I don't believe there is no god.

    I just say, I will not believe there is a god, unless it's proven.

    so, Im waiting.

  • time never began or ends that is a construct created by human beings.

  • Well as soon as you start thinking logically you will realize there is no God.

  • I would like to say, thankyou for asking. explaining time and space is never easy, one thing is for sure, quantum physics does a much sounder job than the bible. We have sent men to the moon based on scientific principles more than once. Indeed, it seems unreasonable to say GOD is the only thing outside of our understanding of the three dimensions we observe, as we know through science and mathematics there is more to this than meets the eye.

  • So you believe that since infinity is impossible, an infinite being must have created existence?

    You believe that lacking a better explanation, "god done it" is a good excuse?

    I don't understand the veracity of either of those claims.

  • You beleive that nothing came from...well....nothing......

    Nothing expanded(or banged) into nothing that created everything.

    In science, Nothing can come from nothing.

  • Macar7hur:

    Not at all friend. My rejection of your beliefs doesn't imply any specific beliefs on my part. Simply because I reject your explanation for the creation of the universe, does not believe I think any specific thing came from any specific place (or lack thereof).

    "I don't know" isn't an incorrect answer.

    If you could produce a scrap of demonstrable/provable evidence of god, you'd win the Nobel prize.

    Not interested?

    Atheism isn't a belief, it's a rejection of belief.

  • The thing is... i really dont know. I know that it is very possible that we came from the big bang. Before that... scientists havnt really discovered yet. the reason i dont think god created this amazing and complex universe is because if he did, then surely god would be even more amazing. and you wouldnt be able to describe where god came from. just my thoughts.

  • Hey you seem like a cool dude. All the theistic people I hear from are all very dead-set in their beliefs, much like most atheists as well I suppose. It's rather refreshing to see such open mindedness. I won't make any videos, and I won't discuss it in the 500 character limit thing, but if you want to talk and exchange ideas in PMs I'd be willing. Always enjoy civil discussion, it seems like it's a rarity lately.

  • sorry but i dont agree the fact you say 'God' created you and me is forcing ur opinion onto others and dont think its right i am part budist and belive that every1 should look for there own opinions and not have them thrown at them :D i used to belive that all religeon was a man made creation in fear of death until i almost died 3 times 3rd time lucky eh and im scottish yes i also said part budist because i dont agree with everything that the religoen stans for and sorry about the spelling :P

  • i dont believe there is A god, i dont believe in christianity, or those other fictional superbeings that is sitting up there and judging our every move...

    i see your point in the big bang theory or what you`d call it.

    i have a big problem understanding HOW atoms, electrons and all other that IS , was created, where is it comming from?

    what made it?

    and i dont think man will ever figure out,

    but i doo believe in aliens,beings from another planet with intelligense and wars and love/hate :)

  • I dont want to be used by an old bearded man,

    i got better things to do in my life.

  • You know, there are more

    evidence that the world was created by an big explosion than an bearded guy in an dress.

    And the cristians say that god is in heaven, but when the humans builded space ships and stuff, we didnt se that big bearded guy on an cloud, why? beacuse he does not excist.

    I think that people belived that god was in the sky beavause the sky seems to be infinite.

    And if you see my comment, please write me a message on any evidence that god excists.

    P,s Sorry for my bad english

  • And i also think its wrong with children baptism, they should have the right to decide when they are older.

  • Actually,there is much,much more evidence for God than for a "BIG BANG". One Christian scientist once said"By studying science correctly, you will find that it brings you closer to God

    God lives in the third heaven, which is very, very, very far away from this heaven. The Heavens:First Heaven:The Atmosphere. The Second Heaven:The Universe.The Third Heaven:Where God is and lives.

    God is in another part of the universe.

  • Irreducible Complecity is the proof that God exists. Atoms could have never Evolved. The Complecity is too great. It is very,very impossible for something to explode or expand from literally nothing. The odds of an atom evolving is 1/one hundred billion billion billion billion million.

    I Don't have enough faith in nothing to be an atheist.

    God bless and get saved.

    It will save you from Hell.

    Tnx for reading this.

    I appreciate it.

  • That doesent make any sense at all

  • You have a good approach. Listening is the best way to convince people to listen to you : )

    Infinite time can be traversed. Just because you observe from one reference frame doesn't mean that there wasn't infinite time behind and in front of you. The argument you used is a creationist adaptation of one of Zeno's paradoxes. Time, as we are learning, is more like a cloud than a line.

  • So. You think that it's impossible for the Cosmos to have existed for infinity. But do think that it is possible, for an entity, (God), to exist outside space, time and matter. That has itself existed for an infinity. And it is this entity that created our cosmos along with space and time.

    Can you not see the glaring problem with this position? Obviously you can't and I've only 83 characters left to point it out. So you'll have to think on it yourself someday.

  • The definition of atheism you sent to me didn't even contradict what i just said...atheism is not a belief that there is no god...It is not believing that a god exists...there's a difference...hope you get that.

  • Your definition of atheism is flawed. Although there are atheists that actually believe there is no god(s), that is not the qualifier. The only qualifier to label someone an atheist is that the DO NOT believe in a god. There's a big difference. To claim knowledge of the unknowable would just be silly...

  • You say that you can't believe that the Universe has always existed but you you believe that God has always existed, thats ironic.

  • You are never called upon to prove a negative that is a law of logic. There is no proof of a god or gods.

  • I think one of the reasons I'm an atheist is because I wasn't really born into a family who went to church or prayed or anything. I think, me being in that situation, I wasn't really bias about my beliefs so when I was taught about evolution it just made more sense to me I guess. I've heard that people started believing in gods because they feared there would be nothing after death. We are humans, after all. I liked your video and I appreciate that it isn't insulting :]

  • what does evolution have to do with atheism?

  • lol? its the whole theiry behind atheism

  • lol, not. Religion and evolution can go hand in hand. The Church of England, e.g., even issued an apology for having misunderstood Darwin's work.

    I've read many interviews with religious people like priests, regular churchgoers, etc., who claim they support the theory of evolution and the existance and worshipping of their god.

    Atheism does not have a theory as you say. Babies, antilopes, etc., are all atheist.

    n.b.: Atheism is just the LACK of believe in the existence of deities.

  • Glad to see a theist willing to politely discuss matters with atheists instead of the more common mud being slung between both sides.

  • MACHO MAN MACHO MAN MACHO MAN!!!!!!!!

  • Matter can not be created or destroyed...so u are incorrect in saying that you don't believe matter didn't always exist. The existance or lack of a god does not define who we are as humans. One does not need a god to fill in the blanks of what we know, simply realizing that we don't have all the answers is enough without creating them out of thin air as is done through religion. I am every bit as moral as any theist and in some ways even more so because i do good for goods sake not to avoid hell

  • You can't tell him he doesn't know what he believes. You can't be incorrect in saying you believe something. You don't see into his mind. You don't know what he believes.

  • If i believe that the earth is flat does that "belief" make it so? Or could you say that my belief is incorrect? Believing anything without proof or evidence is called faith........which proves nothing.

  • Time is an illusion made by man.

    Humans kill, rape, and do terrible things to each other. We're broken so to speak.

    Why would a perfect god create something not perfect.

  • Would you want perfect robot children? Or would you want children who can be who they want to be?

    Also Homer, You're right matter can not be created nor destroyed, which only disproves a self-creating universe. You can't say what you THINK is better than what I believe. There is nothing to support an infinite universe.

  • I do not believe that a morally perfect being can be compared with a robot. A robot has a mindless programing, humans make choices based off of emotions a knowledge not predetermined thoughts put in them by someone else.

  • Since when are people morally perfect? But regardless people are not robots and that's my point.  Thanks for reiterating

  • if there was no God, no religion and no written moral code, do you think that it would be likely or necessary for the individual or controlling powers to create one?

  • So... what was god doing before he created the universe? How did god come into existence? If he was always just there, why did it take so long to create the heavens and the earth? What's up with the other planets? Were they practice or mistakes? I'm all for faith and spirituality but religion was created to control the masses and it was done through fear by men with their own agendas. The bible is a collection of selected stories, there were many books that didn't make the cut, check them out.

  • I can answer that to you, god was touching his balls until he got tired of it! lol

  • may i ask you why you believe what you believe. we have proof of what we believe but the only thing you and other christianic theist have for proof is a book written by a human a verry long time ago

  • [atheistic adj : relating to, characterized by, or given to atheism : GODLESS, IMPIOUS, IRREVERENT (Fr. page 137 of: "Webster's Unabridged Dictionary" -- 1967)] People aren't cartoon characters, even though atheistic religions are tailor-made for cretins. Let's renounce humanism and step into the light. Everything Oprah says IS NOT gospel! Many "atheists" mask their homosexuality with stiffened wrists and baritone voices.

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  • This is a joke right? Right?

  • I do not know how everything came to exist. I leave theories about this to people smarter than me. Scientists have a good record of being able to show how they come to a conclusion. I do not trust religious answers because there is no fact checking and questioning is discouraged. To me it appears that the concept of a magic creator being is spawned from the uncomfortableness of not knowing everything. Certainty is a nice comfort, but without question there is no progress.

  • Why are all the religious people in the us using crack.

  • As for the purpose or 'meaning' of existence I have to say that I don't know. I can't think of a satisfactory purpose for life other than life itself. The purpose I derive from life is to have a good time, make a positive impact on other people and just generally to lead an honest, moral existence.

  • Why can't the universe be uncaused. If we're to agree that energy and matter and space must all have an eternal first cause then why can that first cause not be the universe itself. There is also the question of the nature of time, whether it is lateral or cyclical but that is getting too far from the original question. I would describe myself as an agnostic atheist as I don't know whether 'god' exists or not but as i have never heard convincing proof that it does, I will assume that it doesn't.

  • Well this guy made an awfully improbable conclusion that begins with him knowing a god exsists.He only BELIVES that a god exsists he couldnt possibly know that unless god came to him and told him.Also that god exsists outside of time and space,well how would a finite being know the impossible,he made a lot of critical errors to this point and i wont watch the rest.

  • Hey man, I go to church to learn about god but I find it really hard to understand... I'm not athiest or against god because i don't really know myself, I think that it is just one of lifes big questions we'll never really know. If god created everything than how did god be created? How did god become god?? You're reply will be greatly appreciated,

  • small questions you ask -.-

    I DONT believe in god because, so far. i have not found one reason to believe in him/her/it.

    i dont know how the world started, what made the big bang go off. or what existed before that. and im okey in not knowing that.

    I believe that morality came from when humans started living together in tighter groups. it evolved. and things we consider morally correct are always things that make life - in the long run- good. for the group!

  • Its funny how god can exist forever but time could not have.. The universe was born with time, not into time. What brought God into existence?

    This anthropcentric view of the cosmos is so egotistic. Humans need to accept that not all processes of the cosmos run in harmony with our perception of it. Just because things begin and end, it doesnt mean they apply to the universe at large and have for all time.

  • i know when you hear or see the word evolution you think some weird ass shit. BUT ALL EVOLUTION MEANS IS --CHANGE-- THINGS CHANGE AND YOU CANNOT DENY THAT THINGS HAVE BEEN CHANGING SINCE THE SUPPOSED BEGINNING OF TIME THAT IS EVOLUTION... FLOWERS CHANGE PEOPLE CHANGE DOGS CHANGE FISH CHANGE CLIMATE CHANGES NOTHING IS LIKE HOW IT USE TO BE IF THAT DOESNT ANSWER YOUR IDIOTIC QUESTIONS I DONT KNOW WHAT WILL.

  • I don't think that evolution is really relevant to his question. Some Christians do believe in evolution, as long as they're prepared to take certain parts of the bible with a pinch of salt. lol

  • You say that the univers could not always have bin, then who the hell created God? lol you can't belive that he always existed if you say that the universe haven't always existed... lol and God can't know if there is something higher than him because he can't know if he knows! Or maybe he knows but thats another case...

  • ok! people are religious because they want something to happen to them after they die...they cant cope with the fact that when they die they are GONE! you were dead for billions of years before this and it didnt effect you one bit...i am atheist because i choose to think for myself and act on my own accord, i choose to know why instead of referencing a book written 2000 years ago, i find it hard that a god would only set his people straight 2000 years ago....comeon and just think a litttle

  • athiest, how the universe began, unknown, there is the big bang theory, although i think time could have existed before then, for the big bang to work you esencially have to say that there is space outside the universe, how else could it grow and expand, so if space existed before the universe why not time, the two go together don't they, and the usual godless stuff yada yada, though i have no actual position against people with religeon, i just grew up without it so now i don't bother

  • ok so your saying space made the creation of earth?? im a christian and have no offense of people without religon.. but it doesnt make sence that there cant be a god.. what else can make the creation on earth?? space? another galaxy? i belive a god would have to. a big bang theory doesnt make sence! a explosin? booom! there comes all the trees animals and humans?? and i belive that god and he sent his son jesus to die for are sins.its fine go on and belive that there no god. but i belive god

  • its not like "boom! trees." it takes trillions and trillions of years just for the stuff earths made of to congregate near our sun, around 4.567 billion years ago when the solar system was made from a solar nebula (disc shaped mass of dust & gas, remaining after the creation of the sun), the outer layer of molten earth cooled and formed a crust when water came into the atmospshere, outgassing made the atmosphere, water vapor and comet ice made the ocean, where life evolved from, thats the theory

  • The point is, we don't know. You said yourself that you don't understand how this could come to be, so you anthropomorphize some entity that created everything and call it god. You don't know how it all came to be any more than the rest of us, but at least we can admit that we don't.

  • Well being an athiest i dont believe in anything no spirit no god no afterlife i believe that when we die we cease in totality to exist which to me is very comforting i dont know that how existance came to be but i know it exist's i dont believe in a god because there is no given proof of him and i belief we came as a result of evolution we evolved from bacteria produced from molten iron and dirt and lead all the way up to being human. i hope i answered your questions this is just me though

  • Mark, Ask yourself why you believe. You were taught about the theory of god by other people. You are basing your beliefs on ancient hearsay and not on evidence. Not a shred.

    Being a white American I'm assuming you're Christian. The god you suppose that's outside of space and time "somehow miraculously" created the universe?? It's utterly ridiculous. Your are ignorant of the magnitude of the universe. To believe that a single entity, with a human son, is the reason for everything, is stupid.

  • well what to believe then? =D

  • How can you logically explain that which you do not understand? We eventually discovered, through science, that there was an ocean floor, even though our feet could not touch the bottom. Infinite or finite? That question will be answered of the universe in due time as well. What we must not do in the mean time is fill the unknown with imaginary scenarios and call them truths. This is what religion does and it is wrong.

  • you guys say way too many words just say god is good and bam the universe came to be

  • wow magewarrior your retarted

  • We don't "know" we exist...everyone is their own universe..when your head gets chopped off your universe ends.

    Time is a circle, as are all things in nature and math.

  • Everybody is born atheist and then taught (brainwashed into believing) the religion of the community that one was born in. I was simply never taught.

  • suks for u

  • this guy trips me out

  • You say that "space and matter are not eternal" but judeo/christians believe that god is eternal, the infinite regress arguement would apply to god as well.I don't feel that just because science has not provided an answer to what initated the "big bang" theory doesn't mean that therefor god MUST exist. Thats weak logic in my opinion.

  • it doesnt matter what anybody says everybodys beliefs will always be correct.

  • I challenge people who are writing these things to study a little philosophy, specifially metaphysics.

  • evolution by natural selection proves how life on earth began and u dont need god for it.

    just because we dont have answers for everything (i.e. time, space ect), that doesnt mean there is a god. i believe religousnes cant be explain by elovution-as the that my well be your next question to me. Nero theology is a very intresting line on reaserch in science and explains a great deal. i thinkit is important we try to understand who we really work and science trys to do this.

    nice video though =]

  • doesnt mean there's no god either

    nobody can prove anything for sure

    evolution? possibly true, very likely

    what caused evolution? God? very possibly

    we werent thee at the Beginning, so we dont know what Happened, and God is uncomprehensible to humans

  • just b/c space/time had a begining doesn't make the correct answer for its creation the christian god or any other god. just b/c there was a begining to space/time please do not believe the creator was some supreme being that consciously set everything in motion and their ultimate concern is to watch what we humans do day to day on this planet on the outskirts of one of 100's of billions of galaxies in the visible universe. instead try asking yourself WHAT created the universe, not WHO.

  • so "WHAT" do you think created the universe?

    just wondering...

  • My two Conclusions regarding the God of religious texts:

    Either god is not all-powerful and therefore has no direct hand in the lives of men; which means there is no reason to acknowledge or worship him,

    Or...

    God is not mostly good, and therefore I would not want to worship him.

    And now I must ask you a question.

    If something made the universe... then what made the something that made the universe?

    BTW Great Video.

    :)

  • God, lol

    it all depends on beliefs really,

    God has always been, with no beginning and no end, and to those who believe, this needs no explanation

    what I believe is God gave humans free will and he doesnt often delve into the mortal world because he gave us free will.

    and as for why, who knows? he was probably bored with playing chess with Allah all the time, so he made us like we'd buy an ant farm. (seriously that was a joke dont take it seriously.)

  • So that my good sir would make you a 'deist' as opposed to a 'theist' ;)

    I like the family guy verson, God lit a fart and thus the big bang happened :)

    But playing chess with Allah, that's a good one!

  • well its all just a bunch of terminology anyway xD i know what i believe and respect the beliefs of others too =)

    haha yeah the family gu version rules

    especially the fact that in that jesus is chinese xD

    haha, thanks dude

  • I love that episode!

    And don't forget the evolution scene where they are: "Obligated by the state of Kansas to present the churche's alternative to evolution"

    And Jennie [From I dream of Jennie] walks out of the ocean and blinks everything into existance...

    God I LOVE Family Guy!

  • me too!

    yeah that kicks ass...I like the "there is no evolution, only a list of creatures i allow to live" thing that i seem to see everywhere O_O

    I swear its following me!

  • Oh, one more thing. Respectfully, I don't think it makes any sense. I can't wrap my head around it. I think its the rewards for good and the punishments for bad. Now that may sound funny to say. But do you honestly think its right to worship a god that will give you eternal happyness if you follow blindly or punish you for not. Most importantly. Why would I, as a morally filled, law abidding, kind and loving Atheist be sent to hell simply cause I am atheist. Thats no God I'd follow. Thanks again

  • God loves you first of all, and he loves you so much that he let you have your own will, because he doesn't want you to follow him just because created you that way, he wants to have a loving relationship with you, and, honestly, if you're forced into a relationship, there's probably not much love. hope that made a little sense

  • By the way. Thanks for Speaking the way you did, being respectful. I respond based on what I'm responding to.

    My personal disbeliefs in religion are quite simple. The religious community (all faiths) have made a claim. I've asked for proof or reasoning behind it and no one can give me any answers.. just a side note. Once you've allowed yourself you see the world without god(s), it will amaze you how much more wonderful it is. This is our one and only chance at life. So I'm enjoying it.. Thanks

  • First of all, I'll start by defining 'atheist'

    the word 'atheist' is derived from the word 'theist'

    The prefix 'a' literally means "not"

    The word 'Atheist' or 'A-Theist' means "Not Theist"

    in other words, an atheist is anybody who isn't a theist.

    It's not necessarily somebody who "believes that theism is false", although it doesn't exclude these people.

  • There is also the category of Antitheism which means "against theism"

    Technically speaking, somebody who is "against theism" doesn't necessarily have to be an atheist. One can be a theist, and also be against theism (e.g. they believe in a theistic belief system, but do not like it)

    However I don't expect those people to be very common.

    One could also be an atheist who "lacks belief", but takes issue with many theistic ideas, though acknowledges they don't know for certain that it is false.