I have an 2011 imac desktop and its a top notch computer. Fast, powerful, quite and boots up super fast. Windows OS is way too slow and always crashes. I will never go back to windows! Hello Mac world!
@shewolfen1 There really is no arguing with you, is there? Even if you are proven wrong you just resort to ad hominem and CAPS LOCKS to 'substantiate' your argument. You know who does that? The person who knows he has lost the argument. Oblivious Asshat.
No really, you should incorporate some cost analysis there in your little comparison. That's a main selling point of a PC, in addition to the availability of open source software, larger + cheaper library, and nearly endless number of third-party peripheral and component manufacturers. These plus factors necessarily cause any Windows OS to boot more slowly. Oh, and "fully customisable" is a bit of an overstatement. And FYI, I have and enjoy both :)
@2040Tech Well although the older Macs weren't "based" on Unix, Dennis Ritchie still invented the C programming language. If this had not happened, Mac Windows and even Linux would not be around, so his point still stands.
And OS X is not Unix based, it's Unix compliant and there is a difference
@ausportydeem You are comparing apples (your Macbook Pro) to pears (your friends Asus); the two machines are different -> you can draw no comparisons between the two systems (try installing Windows 7 on the Macbook and see how it works instead).
Who cares anyway? We use the operating systems we use either out of the comfort of familiarty or by necessity of our work or daily lives.
@indilock Actually the Macbook ran Windows 7 until I got the Mac Pro, and it did so quite well. Decent boot time, decent running speed. Not that of OS X though, which I'm sure was just because it was designed for it.
@Borridd Sorry, I cannot be that specific, but his is a newer computer, and one of more power. I believe the RAM MHz is 1066 for my Macbook Pro and 1333 for his Asus. I may have that wrong for the Asus.
My Macbook is a Core2Duo 2.4GHz, his an i7 of some sort I believe.
@shewolfen1 and no, you don't think different. Your thoughts repeat themselves like a CD covered in grape juice. I've counted the same damn comments from you at least 4 times.
@shewolfen1 Right. Neglecting to mention that apple refuses to allow Mac OS on a PC without breaking the law. Didn't stop a few people I know from doing it anyway for SNG.
Also, what kind of mindless apple fanboy spouts mac propaganda for 18 pages? You're dedicated to the official story, I'll give you that.
And it's still not exciting, as Win95 in an emulated x86 environment would have it running very slowly for anything more than basic word processing. (This was long before Apple migrated to Intel, using the then-superior Motorola 68000 and PowerPC chipsets...)
HEY GENIUSES! Defending which OS you use does NOT make you look any smarter. Every OS is designed for a different niche in the computing market. You don't see Tablet operating systems running on computers and vice-versa because they are designed for the specific hardware. The sooner you learn the niche that Windows and Mac OS X both have, the sooner you will stop embarrassing yourself on YouTube comment sections.
@shewolfen1 Apple has zero viri due to no one wasting their time trying to steal information from retards who spend all their money on a shitty computer, because it just wouldn't be right stealing from the mentally handicapped when they worked so hard beyond their disabilities for such money.
@shewolfen1 It's not about who uses what, or what groups of people use it... It's about how it works WITH you. I fought with Windows and Mac for a while and believed that this is what a computer 'should be', until I learned some programming, and found an operating system that gave me free speech. ;)
@shewolfen1 LOL, really? I didn't know that Windows was designed on Apple, I'm pretty sure it was built from BASIC but what do I know... and you do realized that Pixar and other movie business used Open source and GNU/Linux for a lot of their movies...
I know many people who can "afford the best". My aunt works as an oral surgeon, making around $225 000 per year. Yet, she uses a Windows based machine because she a) knows how to spend money and knows that she'll get MUCH more for the price, and b) actually knows how to use a computer and doesn't need something easy to use that she can't customize. You can't even remove the battery of Macintosh laptops!
By the way, why are you calling them "disposable"?
@shewolfen1 now Linux with its community based support goes much further to help engage and educate people about how there system actually works. however to some the community support is a draw back.
Software- mac user often complain about software availability and cost. with a standard Ubuntu installation there are over 34,000 software package available in the repositories, and almost all are open sourced.
@shewolfen1 Now Linux with the open sources approach involves its user-base into its working to a much greater degree, and it also has a much wider development then apple could ever support. thus bugs and security holes and tracked down and sealed much faster.
Support- apple has an excellent support program and customer service. Linux does have this, in Linux you have to fix it yourself unless you pay for support from Red hat or Novel.
@shewolfen1 Boot times - I'm sure that if look around you-tube you can find demonstrating that Linux has a faster boot time.
Security- while neither have nearly as many viruses to worry about as windows, there are other security issues, first mac cannot run any kind of virus scanner in the advent of a of a virus or to verify that you are spreading a virus, also apples closed source software has been to create many vulnerabilities, that can be taken advantage of.
@shewolfen1 and as for those of us that are intelligent, and want what is really the best (not what the commercials tell you is the best) we run Linux why? here is the areas where Linux beats Mac Os X. GUI- while Mac Os X has a user-friendly and eye-pleasing GUI it lacks customization. in Linux there at 4 completely different GUI for a user to chose from on most distributions, also of these 4 at-least 3 are extremely customizable and are very user friendly nowadays.
@shewolfen1 first: i write the way i want to, just like you who like CAPS.
Secondly: yes, macs are great indeed, however i have no desire or need to use one.
Thirdly: Uh, nope i'm not on a dell, i built this rig on my own, its not disposable.
And finally: Windows got its own issues indeed: But so does mac, linux and every other OS out there: P.S: I prefer bluescreen over colorful beachball, at least it tells me there was an actual issue. not a "oops, something's wrong, stare at this for now".
Guise, just ignore the troll. Mac's are expensive because people think they are trendy, while in-fact they're "no different" than PC's specially considering the average computer user does almost everything nowadays through a browser. Now if you take gamers, designers, and other jobs which require specific software ,you'll see they have their reasons to use one of those systems. I personally prefer Windows due the fact that it is compatible with almost any software. Still i respect mac users.
@shewolfen1 You know that your argument doesn't get stronger if you use allcaps! And by the way, you know both Pc and Mac has their up- and downsides!
@5468295 I'm a fan of Windows and Mac, but PCs are usually made of cheap plastic that begins to wear off a few moths after being bought. It's hard to find a PC that's not made of plastic. Don't get me wrong I like both but Mac seems to be more enhanced in durability.
@desenagrator rofl - build your own pc get a frkin awesome case - and no plastic will be involved anymore... oh and it'll still be cheaper than a mac...
@desenagrator yeah thats true but if you are a gamer don't go apple it ruins the performance and i know what brands are good so i don't have to replace my pc every 3 months :D
about your screen...you configure it with 1680x1050 (which still is less than 1920x1080) but just upgrading the processor .2GHz more, the HDD 250GB more, and the gfx card memory to 1GB (which isn't as much as the GTX 570's 3GB) will raise the price by $400.00! I don't want to know how much it would cost to upgrade the resolution
the only mac>pc thing is that the MacBook Pro comes with subwoofers, but anyone can buy those
still think macs are better? idk hit me with your reasons why
@shewolfen1 If you are saying some of the things on PC's are really expensive compared to Mac, doesnt that mean YOU are the CHEAPO? (Yes is the right answer)
@shewolfen1 ALL macs are shitspecs. ofcourse you dont know this because you just buy one every time they upgrade something stupid like making the graphics card 512 instead of 256. If you were smart or knew ANYTHING about computers, you would BUILD YOUR OWN and get a computer 5x better than a Mac at half the price.
I run Mac OS X 10.6.3 on a custom built Windows machine by dual-booting. Furthermore, all the hardware and software I got was less than $1 grand. Next I'm working on installing an extra partition for Linux! Very soon I will have a machine that will run 3 OS! Windows and Mac is cool, but nothing is better than a custom built machine that can run EVERYTHING!
@spamdude060 I could not agree with you more, you are the voice of reason in this stupid heated argument. I dual boot Ubuntu and Windows 7. I tried OSX but i REALLY dont like it. I found maybe 3 good features (multi touch, the instant task manager, and the borrowing a disk drive feature) but the rest is just Linux with a different look.
@shewolfen1 I have used PC's all my life and have never gotten any of those. The only time things like that happen to me is on public computers. And please grow up because apple isn't perfect and caps lock doesn't make your comment any better.
@shewolfen1 internet all depends on your upload and download speed...if i were to use google chrome on vista (horrible failure for a pc) and u were to use internet explorer i would rock your speeds...
also i haven't had a virus on ANY of my computers and i have on macs so... yeah they can get em too
@shewolfen1 if the iPad ran a customized version of snow leopard it would be awesome, but no! we're gonna make a big iPhone...if the $500 for the piece of shit wasnt enough, we make you pay for the music and apps which make the iPhone so special...we offer TWO FUCKING COLORS OMFG!
@shewolfen1 /watch?v=O-rLIRDJRuo - trojan on a mac (they get em too)
i guess the guy who thought putting a spinning BEACH BALL when your computer crashes is DEAD from cancer now...smart man he was :P
apple's quality is too busy overpricing their pieces of shit that they will just keep getting money from you...you're a fucking retard who thinks combining a monitor and a case makes a good computer
and btw acer's can suck a dick, who said they were the all time pc's?
At least Macs are "built to last" ... oh wait, you cant customize them, so you cant upgrade the gpu, cpu, ram, or drivers...what a shame, ill be buying another mac in a year or two
@oConshien Pc's run for 5 - 6 years on high end graphical games when you spend as much on it as a mac, that is a fact. Macs are for ease of use and no freedom of technical costumization. Which i get, cause not everyone wants it advanced and technical. I however love it, i'm a pc builder and a web / graphic designer and honestly could not do it without a PC. However i think that if you pay so much for a product it should not be built by Chinese slaves, but built fair. Apple IS evil.
Apple thought for a long time that they'd be best off constructing their own method for network-communication. Everyone that has struggled with the glorious AppleTalk knows that they didn't do a great job. Now they have realised that it's better to use an already working technology that someone else created instead of poorly reinventing the wheel.
"Networking on a Mac is built on the same technologies used by PCs."
Yes, the mac comes with Office and this is why you should make the switch from a pc to a mac:
"The transition to a Mac is easy in part because you’ll continue using the same applications you already know"
Ask yourself this: Why would I switch when It's the exactly same on the mac? -Beats me. Apple does speak of some mysterious features in this sentence:
"And thanks to exclusive features, the Mac versions improve on their Windows counterparts"
You better sit down for this one, hold on to your seat and embrace yourself for some cutting edge news from Apple... they've invented the laptop, eureka! Not only that, they think they've made it superior to other laptops. Let's look at why and also try to answer their questions:
Can your PC laptop go coast to coast with just one battery?
— Ofcourse. And if it only needs the performance of the Mac it could probably go around the fucking world!
@shewolfen1 Ok I already proved that my computers better than the ones you showed me. You have such a boner for apple you say anything to attempt to prove apples better, ANY OTHER COMPUTER CAN PLAY 3D GAMES, and Apple computers don't have good enough video cards for them to look good anyways
Yes it does! And it does it alot. The difference between a pc based on Windows crashing and a Mac is that on the pc the crash is in 99% of the cases caused by badly coded third party software, when the Mac just has a faulty operating system. There is another fun part about crashes on the mac, it's almost always impossible to trace the source of the crash. When your mac crashes you simply reinstall the system. Sounds like a fun thing to do on your spare time, well buy a Mac then
This is maybe the ultimate reason a mac owner will give you to explain why it's superior to a PC. The mac owner will tell you that with a system from Apple you will never have to think about drivers, upgrades or anything. A mac is perfection itself when delivered. Atleast according to their standard. Many mac:s can't even be upgraded. So what you buy is what you get. Expect your system to be outdated within 1-2 years.
@shewolfen1 My Computer: Acer Aspire 3.2GHz Quad Core Intel i5, 6gb DDR3 memory, 1.5TB Hard Drive, ATI Radeon HD 5570 1024MB, Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit, price = $399.99. And who needs high quality outside construction, do you drop your desktop a lot? Mine could handle a 4 foot drop, but that is NEVER going to happen anyways. Because of this "high quality", you cannot easily access the inside to ever upgrade parts in the future, meaning you have to upgrade with ANOTHER expensive computer.
@shewolfen1 Just because it costs more doesn't make it instantly better, I looked at apples website and couldn't find a better iMac than my $400 pc. For $2000 you should be getting a computer MUCH better than mine, (yet apparently a pc is a cheap knockoff) but pc's seem to have much more power for a fraction of the price. So what exactly are you getting for this extra $1600 that makes a pc seem like a "cheap" choice?
@shewolfen1 How come modern games don't run on a Mac if it is so far ahead? It was ALWAYS possible to run more operating systems on one PC. Maybe you only know Windows, but when I was a kid I installed OS/2, UNIX, CPM, MS-DOS and Windows on one PC.
Just learn about how computers work fundamentally and use linux. Anything you build to suit you from the ground up will be better than an OTB solve-all.
Only exception is you've gotta have Windows to do serious gaming, for anything commercial. Macs are more secure because they use the "app store": just a fancy term for the good old repository. Harder to get viruses, good for home studio if you can pay for the brand.
When you build it yourself, you can't help but love it. STOP THE HATE! lol...
@shewolfen1 The only problem I've ever had out of those is a couple viruses, and its been years since the last one, which isn't a big deal anyways. On my new pc I'm able to run new games perfectly, while my friend with a new mac can't even run cod4 at a high enough frame rate to be playable. So apparently I got WAY more than I paid for if his mac was over $1000. The only thing that takes longer than 5 seconds to load up is iTunes, and I've had so many problems with it in the past couple years
@shewolfen ...With an advanced ATI graphics card, system support/warranty for 2 years, and a monitor. Also, manufacturers such as dell make Artistic pcs too, this is mine: Dell XPS 8300. Looks awesome- and has epic (lol) technology inside, as I described earlier.
@shewolfen1 *sigh 1000s got me a macbook air with 6gb ram i3, 1000 dollars also got me a HP with 16gb ram and i7 core processor... viruses depend on the OS, go ahead and install Mac on a pc and youll be happy.
@Frankman725 Not PC fanboys, people who hate with an unbridled passion the idiotic rantings of hardcore Mac fanboys. My personal limit is when the individual says anything about Macs not getting viruses or worms.
PCs aren't nearly as artistically inclined as Macs (the computers not the users, to clarify.), and Macs don't do hardcore gaming or straight business stuff on par with PCs
@shewolfen1 if you had enough intelligence to know what spyware is, or how to use a PC to begin with, your computer wouldn't be in the state it is, which is much like the state of my grandmothers PC. btw, the board with buttons on it you use to type with, above the left shift is button that says caps lock, if you push that it should fix your font.
Probably why they switched to using Intel. Mac couldn't float, so they joined the PC camp. I remember working with them in IT, the Power Mac crashed a few times daily doing development. The NT workstations did that once per month, if that..
@shewolfen1 Slow booting? My PC boot in only 35 secs. PC crashes or blue screen of death is only a remembrance since I have w7, same with slow reaction. Maybe you are talking about last decade but now those problems are from the past.
Mac stopped being a REAL Mac in hardware when they switched to intel CPUs, now they are only a PC with another OS. A lot of Macbooks fails because of heating issues, I have one on my repair desk that I have to get a replacement motherboard for. The Mac center here wanted $1500 to do the job, on a C2D from 2009.
@shewolfen1 Are you smoking crack?? Xeon CPU??? I don't think so, check Intel's page for CPUs and read up on what a Xeon is. 3GB memory? Wow, I see sub 500 USD Laptops from Toshiba, HP everyday that can easily be upgraded to 8 GB for $50 - 100.
I don't understand why people keep on thinking Apple is like 50000 times better than Windows. Yes Apple computers are good, but can they run the newest games that are out on the market? Didn't think so. They are also very overpriced. But they're really good for things like video editing. Now with Windows, it's very cheap, good for gaming. But they also usually have slow boot-up times. So they're equal. Big whup. Deal with it.
When I had an IBOOK in middle school it never crashed. The worst thing that happened was the backlight went out. In highschool we got Dell laptops, mine only crashed 5 times.
Windows 95, a tribute to the power of exclusivisity contracts and kickbacks. Any person who knows the history of the period knows that the TRUE advanced OS of the period for a PC was OS Warp, from IBM, which could actually MULTITASK among other features that wouldn't show up in any Windows format until XP. And, if you wanted an alternative and not a Mac, the Amiga's graphics AND multitasking abilities were so advanced that a late 80's Amiga can run Quake, something late 90's PCs found tough.
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sensitivebeat 2 weeks ago
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Whoah! Windows can float! xD
emini6 1 month ago
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One thing PC users can do that Mac users can't:
SHUT THE F*CK UP!
emini6 1 month ago
I have an 2011 imac desktop and its a top notch computer. Fast, powerful, quite and boots up super fast. Windows OS is way too slow and always crashes. I will never go back to windows! Hello Mac world!
77raymondt 1 month ago
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FinnishGaming 1 month ago
@FinnishGaming well done
lucas40684068 1 month ago
@FinnishGaming :D
lucas40684068 1 month ago
@ausportydeem That's fair. Good job with breaking the stereotypes.
MrRyjab 1 month ago
I hate Apple
TopTap09 1 month ago
@shewolfen1
You're a dumbass. Am i Right?
christianboy696 1 month ago
240p? Yeah right!
OllieSaer4983 1 month ago
Bah. They are base imitations of Acorn Riscos.
ShroedingerWatcher 1 month ago
@shewolfen1 There really is no arguing with you, is there? Even if you are proven wrong you just resort to ad hominem and CAPS LOCKS to 'substantiate' your argument. You know who does that? The person who knows he has lost the argument. Oblivious Asshat.
jojotjuh 1 month ago
Urgh, now I have to go through and find out what "shewolfen1" said.
bentoms 1 month ago
I dont fucking care about Macs and PC. they are all good. I use Windows as my main OS and Linux as second OS.
pat20105 1 month ago
Apparently Shewolfen1's account is closed.
TheAstralSerpent 1 month ago
@TheAstralSerpent yay. that bitch deserved that
pat20105 1 month ago
Hi, I'm a rational Mac user.
I use it because it's simplistic, and rather breezy to use. It also boots up a lot faster on my Macbook Pro than Windows 7 on my friends Asus.
On my Mac Pro, I have Windows 7 Ultimate installed on a partition for gaming, along with Ubuntu and OS X.
The Mac Pro is fully customisable, may I add.
The only difference I see between the two is that Mac is a lot more streamlined, and Windows has a broader spectrum of gaming options.
Just be quiet and use your computer.
ausportydeem 1 month ago 27
@ausportydeem
OMFG SERIOUS COMPUTER DEBATE.
No really, you should incorporate some cost analysis there in your little comparison. That's a main selling point of a PC, in addition to the availability of open source software, larger + cheaper library, and nearly endless number of third-party peripheral and component manufacturers. These plus factors necessarily cause any Windows OS to boot more slowly. Oh, and "fully customisable" is a bit of an overstatement. And FYI, I have and enjoy both :)
kflydub 1 month ago
@kflydub Cost analysis, eh?
Macbook Pro, 4GB RAM, 250GB HDD, 256mb VRAM (That was saddening), 2.4GHz Dual Core, shitloads of free software on purchase - $800
Mac Pro, 16GB RAM, 4x1TB HDD's, 8-core w/ 8 virtual core 2.26GHz, 512mb 120GT, with a free upgrade whenever I feel like it. - $1200
OS X has a lot of free open source apps, and can run most of windows ones with a simple wrapper.
I can also change the CPU, motherboard, graphics card, RAM, harddrives, fan, wiring and power suppy.
ausportydeem 1 month ago
@ausportydeem Why can't everybody be like you when they choose an OS?
TheGodOfBlocks 1 month ago
@ausportydeem and all these things will only cost you $7000
shabbyroadgaming23 1 month ago
@shabbyroadgaming23 *$2000
ausportydeem 1 month ago
@ausportydeem hi there, rational mac user.
I use windows because its a lot more original and a lot cheaper.
Steve jobs died recently, and a week later the creator of the C language and unix dennis ritchie died too.
Without ritchie mac wouldnt exist, because it alone copied every fucking idea ritchie came up with.
Just be quiet and have some respect for dennis ritchie.
kinkongization 1 month ago
@kinkongization well said
TopTap09 1 month ago
@kinkongization First of all Systems 0.1 - 9.2.1 was not based on UNIX so STFU and Second UNIX is open source so STFU AGAIN
2040Tech 1 month ago
@2040Tech Well although the older Macs weren't "based" on Unix, Dennis Ritchie still invented the C programming language. If this had not happened, Mac Windows and even Linux would not be around, so his point still stands.
And OS X is not Unix based, it's Unix compliant and there is a difference
wilhamlin 1 month ago
@kinkongization Honestly, I didn't look into Steve Jobs dying. I may use Apple stuff, and I like Steve Jobs, but he never really interested me.
I did hear about Dennis Ritchie. Again, didn't much care.
ausportydeem 1 month ago
@ausportydeem You are comparing apples (your Macbook Pro) to pears (your friends Asus); the two machines are different -> you can draw no comparisons between the two systems (try installing Windows 7 on the Macbook and see how it works instead).
Who cares anyway? We use the operating systems we use either out of the comfort of familiarty or by necessity of our work or daily lives.
indilock 1 month ago
@indilock Actually the Macbook ran Windows 7 until I got the Mac Pro, and it did so quite well. Decent boot time, decent running speed. Not that of OS X though, which I'm sure was just because it was designed for it.
ausportydeem 1 month ago
@ausportydeem "boots up a lot faster on my Macbook Pro than Windows 7 on my friends Asus"
Probably because they're different computers, you know different specifications and difference in age.
Borridd 1 month ago
@Borridd
My macbook pro:
4GB RAM, 250GB HDD, 256mb VRAM
his Asus:
8GB RAM, 750GB HDD, 1GB VRAM
ausportydeem 1 month ago
@ausportydeem Read/write of the Hard drives? Seek time of the Hard drives? Processor? Timings on the RAM? Hertz of the RAM?
Borridd 1 month ago
@Borridd Sorry, I cannot be that specific, but his is a newer computer, and one of more power. I believe the RAM MHz is 1066 for my Macbook Pro and 1333 for his Asus. I may have that wrong for the Asus.
My Macbook is a Core2Duo 2.4GHz, his an i7 of some sort I believe.
ausportydeem 1 month ago
@shewolfen1 and no, you don't think different. Your thoughts repeat themselves like a CD covered in grape juice. I've counted the same damn comments from you at least 4 times.
artistwithouttalent 1 month ago
@artistwithouttalent Stop that. You are feeding the troll.
larewwedxhhh19 1 month ago
@larewwedxhhh19 Fair enough.
artistwithouttalent 1 month ago
@shewolfen1 RULE 15: CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL.
RULE 16: EVEN WITH CRUISE CONTROL, YOU STILL HAVE TO STEER.
artistwithouttalent 1 month ago
@artistwithouttalent lmao
oConshien 1 month ago
@shewolfen1 Right. Neglecting to mention that apple refuses to allow Mac OS on a PC without breaking the law. Didn't stop a few people I know from doing it anyway for SNG.
Also, what kind of mindless apple fanboy spouts mac propaganda for 18 pages? You're dedicated to the official story, I'll give you that.
artistwithouttalent 1 month ago
watching the magic monitor float is like omfg. *mac sound*
ipopd123 1 month ago
And it's still not exciting, as Win95 in an emulated x86 environment would have it running very slowly for anything more than basic word processing. (This was long before Apple migrated to Intel, using the then-superior Motorola 68000 and PowerPC chipsets...)
Thermodynamic 1 month ago
Here we go again, a Mac vs PC debate.
HEY GENIUSES! Defending which OS you use does NOT make you look any smarter. Every OS is designed for a different niche in the computing market. You don't see Tablet operating systems running on computers and vice-versa because they are designed for the specific hardware. The sooner you learn the niche that Windows and Mac OS X both have, the sooner you will stop embarrassing yourself on YouTube comment sections.
larewwedxhhh19 1 month ago 8
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No tablet OS on computer?
Windows 8 says:"Challenge accpted!"
DeadYatar 1 month ago
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larewwedxhhh19 1 month ago
@shewolfen1 Apple has zero viri due to no one wasting their time trying to steal information from retards who spend all their money on a shitty computer, because it just wouldn't be right stealing from the mentally handicapped when they worked so hard beyond their disabilities for such money.
TheAstralSerpent 1 month ago
@shewolfen1 It's not about who uses what, or what groups of people use it... It's about how it works WITH you. I fought with Windows and Mac for a while and believed that this is what a computer 'should be', until I learned some programming, and found an operating system that gave me free speech. ;)
Diabolist11 1 month ago
@shewolfen1 LOL, really? I didn't know that Windows was designed on Apple, I'm pretty sure it was built from BASIC but what do I know... and you do realized that Pixar and other movie business used Open source and GNU/Linux for a lot of their movies...
Diabolist11 1 month ago
@shewolfen1
I know many people who can "afford the best". My aunt works as an oral surgeon, making around $225 000 per year. Yet, she uses a Windows based machine because she a) knows how to spend money and knows that she'll get MUCH more for the price, and b) actually knows how to use a computer and doesn't need something easy to use that she can't customize. You can't even remove the battery of Macintosh laptops!
By the way, why are you calling them "disposable"?
Ishcoa 1 month ago
@shewolfen1 now Linux with its community based support goes much further to help engage and educate people about how there system actually works. however to some the community support is a draw back.
Software- mac user often complain about software availability and cost. with a standard Ubuntu installation there are over 34,000 software package available in the repositories, and almost all are open sourced.
ThehellfireShow 1 month ago
@shewolfen1 Now Linux with the open sources approach involves its user-base into its working to a much greater degree, and it also has a much wider development then apple could ever support. thus bugs and security holes and tracked down and sealed much faster.
Support- apple has an excellent support program and customer service. Linux does have this, in Linux you have to fix it yourself unless you pay for support from Red hat or Novel.
ThehellfireShow 1 month ago
@shewolfen1 Boot times - I'm sure that if look around you-tube you can find demonstrating that Linux has a faster boot time.
Security- while neither have nearly as many viruses to worry about as windows, there are other security issues, first mac cannot run any kind of virus scanner in the advent of a of a virus or to verify that you are spreading a virus, also apples closed source software has been to create many vulnerabilities, that can be taken advantage of.
ThehellfireShow 1 month ago
@shewolfen1 and as for those of us that are intelligent, and want what is really the best (not what the commercials tell you is the best) we run Linux why? here is the areas where Linux beats Mac Os X. GUI- while Mac Os X has a user-friendly and eye-pleasing GUI it lacks customization. in Linux there at 4 completely different GUI for a user to chose from on most distributions, also of these 4 at-least 3 are extremely customizable and are very user friendly nowadays.
ThehellfireShow 1 month ago
@shewolfen1 first: i write the way i want to, just like you who like CAPS.
Secondly: yes, macs are great indeed, however i have no desire or need to use one.
Thirdly: Uh, nope i'm not on a dell, i built this rig on my own, its not disposable.
And finally: Windows got its own issues indeed: But so does mac, linux and every other OS out there: P.S: I prefer bluescreen over colorful beachball, at least it tells me there was an actual issue. not a "oops, something's wrong, stare at this for now".
Rondoofnostalgia 1 month ago
MAC vs Windows debate... the only debate that is more violent than Super Nintendo vs Sega Genesis.
Rondoofnostalgia 1 month ago
Guise, just ignore the troll. Mac's are expensive because people think they are trendy, while in-fact they're "no different" than PC's specially considering the average computer user does almost everything nowadays through a browser. Now if you take gamers, designers, and other jobs which require specific software ,you'll see they have their reasons to use one of those systems. I personally prefer Windows due the fact that it is compatible with almost any software. Still i respect mac users.
Rondoofnostalgia 1 month ago
@shewolfen1 where macs are used: internet cafes
where pcs are used: inside the Hadron Super Collider
coolwrld115 1 month ago
@coolwrld115 b/c they need the processing power for more than itunes and artistic software.
artistwithouttalent 1 month ago
@shewolfen1 You know that your argument doesn't get stronger if you use allcaps! And by the way, you know both Pc and Mac has their up- and downsides!
JeppapeppaN 1 month ago
Watching a floating monitor is awesome!
WebVManReturns 1 month ago 32
@shewolfen1 lol and turn off your caps lock dude
5468295 1 month ago
@shewolfen1 dude you should seriously get real and see that mac just isn't as good as a windows computer...
5468295 1 month ago
@5468295 I'm a fan of Windows and Mac, but PCs are usually made of cheap plastic that begins to wear off a few moths after being bought. It's hard to find a PC that's not made of plastic. Don't get me wrong I like both but Mac seems to be more enhanced in durability.
desenagrator 1 month ago
@desenagrator rofl - build your own pc get a frkin awesome case - and no plastic will be involved anymore... oh and it'll still be cheaper than a mac...
Stadtmuzik 1 month ago
@desenagrator yeah thats true but if you are a gamer don't go apple it ruins the performance and i know what brands are good so i don't have to replace my pc every 3 months :D
5468295 1 month ago
holy crap talk about bashing on shewolfen1 LOL. And you know what really sucks? now imma have to find the original comment >:( grrrrrrr
Eurospic 1 month ago
@Eurospic just hit all comments af press ctrl + f
oConshien 1 month ago
@Eurospic I stopped around page 18. shewolfen1 repeats the same damn comments blindly every time.
artistwithouttalent 1 month ago
@shewolfen1 I would rather a "knock-off" (microsoft est. 1975; apple inc. est. 1976...look it up) when it preforms better, yes.
oConshien 1 month ago
@shewolfen1
about your screen...you configure it with 1680x1050 (which still is less than 1920x1080) but just upgrading the processor .2GHz more, the HDD 250GB more, and the gfx card memory to 1GB (which isn't as much as the GTX 570's 3GB) will raise the price by $400.00! I don't want to know how much it would cost to upgrade the resolution
the only mac>pc thing is that the MacBook Pro comes with subwoofers, but anyone can buy those
still think macs are better? idk hit me with your reasons why
oConshien 1 month ago
@shewolfen1 yep, first of all, thats starting at $1,799. ALSO, I could get a pc that would preform better than that for only $1,689
17.3" 1920x1080 HD LED-Backlit...apposed to your 15" 1440x900
Intel i7-2720QM Processor 6MB @ 3.3GHz...to yours @ only 2.2GHz
8GB DDR3-1333MHz RAM...to your 4GB DDR3
NVIDIA GTX 570M 1.5GB=@732MHz & 29280 Mpixels/sec...to your AMD Radeon 6750=@725MHz & 11600 Mpixels/sec
640GB 5400RPM SATA300 Hard Drive...to your 500GB 5400RPM (continued...)
oConshien 1 month ago
Watching them run from one computer? What, does it have a virtual machine?
HoneycombAgent 1 month ago
@HoneycombAgent You could get a "DOS Card" home.comcast.net/~gionpeters/hhhh/doscard.htm
Nokorola 1 month ago
@oConshien makes more sense
dude00074 1 month ago
@shewolfen1 If you are saying some of the things on PC's are really expensive compared to Mac, doesnt that mean YOU are the CHEAPO? (Yes is the right answer)
dude00074 2 months ago
@shewolfen1
1. No they arent my friend gets them weekly.
2.That depends on the PC
3.What the HELL do you do that you get 2-10 viruses a day? do you just download every f*cking program out there?
4. OSX and Windows 7 start up times are almost the same(I've seen W7 beat OSX quite a few times)
5.Where do you find this software? RIPOFF(dot)com?
6. You are obviously a Neanderthal when it comes to technology. Do us real computer nerds a favor and shut up.
dude00074 2 months ago 14
@shewolfen1 ALL macs are shitspecs. ofcourse you dont know this because you just buy one every time they upgrade something stupid like making the graphics card 512 instead of 256. If you were smart or knew ANYTHING about computers, you would BUILD YOUR OWN and get a computer 5x better than a Mac at half the price.
dude00074 2 months ago
@dude00074 *less than half the price :)
oConshien 1 month ago
I run Mac OS X 10.6.3 on a custom built Windows machine by dual-booting. Furthermore, all the hardware and software I got was less than $1 grand. Next I'm working on installing an extra partition for Linux! Very soon I will have a machine that will run 3 OS! Windows and Mac is cool, but nothing is better than a custom built machine that can run EVERYTHING!
spamdude060 2 months ago
@spamdude060 I could not agree with you more, you are the voice of reason in this stupid heated argument. I dual boot Ubuntu and Windows 7. I tried OSX but i REALLY dont like it. I found maybe 3 good features (multi touch, the instant task manager, and the borrowing a disk drive feature) but the rest is just Linux with a different look.
dude00074 2 months ago
@shewolfen1 I have used PC's all my life and have never gotten any of those. The only time things like that happen to me is on public computers. And please grow up because apple isn't perfect and caps lock doesn't make your comment any better.
dude00074 2 months ago
@shewolfen1 At least he can back up his statement with actual reasons, rather than just blurting out insults.
AdvaElecGamesYYG 2 months ago
@shewolfen1 actually my windows 7 loads up and shuts down easily in less than half a minute
BlackTiger653 2 months ago
@shewolfen1 internet all depends on your upload and download speed...if i were to use google chrome on vista (horrible failure for a pc) and u were to use internet explorer i would rock your speeds...
also i haven't had a virus on ANY of my computers and i have on macs so... yeah they can get em too
oConshien 2 months ago
oConshien 2 months ago
@shewolfen1 no one is making you update, but it will be outdated VERY fast...you will be stuck with the ... no fuck this its ur loss
oConshien 2 months ago
this is useful /watch?v=H9NeRQjGwfs&t=28s
oConshien 2 months ago
@shewolfen1 if the iPad ran a customized version of snow leopard it would be awesome, but no! we're gonna make a big iPhone...if the $500 for the piece of shit wasnt enough, we make you pay for the music and apps which make the iPhone so special...we offer TWO FUCKING COLORS OMFG!
oConshien 2 months ago
@oConshien THE IPAD IS NOT A $500 BIG IPHONE! IT CAN'T MAKE CALLS, SO IT'S MORE LIKE A $500 IPOD TOUCH!
artistwithouttalent 1 month ago
@artistwithouttalent ikr!
oConshien 1 month ago
@shewolfen1 /watch?v=O-rLIRDJRuo - trojan on a mac (they get em too)
i guess the guy who thought putting a spinning BEACH BALL when your computer crashes is DEAD from cancer now...smart man he was :P
apple's quality is too busy overpricing their pieces of shit that they will just keep getting money from you...you're a fucking retard who thinks combining a monitor and a case makes a good computer
and btw acer's can suck a dick, who said they were the all time pc's?
oConshien 2 months ago
@shewolfen1 classic pc? cheapo? what lies?...
At least Macs are "built to last" ... oh wait, you cant customize them, so you cant upgrade the gpu, cpu, ram, or drivers...what a shame, ill be buying another mac in a year or two
oConshien 2 months ago 5
@oConshien How is that built to last if you have to buy a new one every few years or so due to a lack of the ability to upgrade?
dude00074 2 months ago
@dude00074 *sarcasm
oConshien 1 month ago
@oConshien Pc's run for 5 - 6 years on high end graphical games when you spend as much on it as a mac, that is a fact. Macs are for ease of use and no freedom of technical costumization. Which i get, cause not everyone wants it advanced and technical. I however love it, i'm a pc builder and a web / graphic designer and honestly could not do it without a PC. However i think that if you pay so much for a product it should not be built by Chinese slaves, but built fair. Apple IS evil.
besie0 1 month ago
@oConshien Yes you can... Go study your facts before you express you opinions publicly.
insecur 1 month ago
Apple thought for a long time that they'd be best off constructing their own method for network-communication. Everyone that has struggled with the glorious AppleTalk knows that they didn't do a great job. Now they have realised that it's better to use an already working technology that someone else created instead of poorly reinventing the wheel.
"Networking on a Mac is built on the same technologies used by PCs."
oConshien 2 months ago
Yes, the mac comes with Office and this is why you should make the switch from a pc to a mac:
"The transition to a Mac is easy in part because you’ll continue using the same applications you already know"
Ask yourself this: Why would I switch when It's the exactly same on the mac? -Beats me. Apple does speak of some mysterious features in this sentence:
"And thanks to exclusive features, the Mac versions improve on their Windows counterparts"
What exclusive features? You can do it on a pc 2!
oConshien 2 months ago
You better sit down for this one, hold on to your seat and embrace yourself for some cutting edge news from Apple... they've invented the laptop, eureka! Not only that, they think they've made it superior to other laptops. Let's look at why and also try to answer their questions:
Can your PC laptop go coast to coast with just one battery?
— Ofcourse. And if it only needs the performance of the Mac it could probably go around the fucking world!
oConshien 2 months ago
@shewolfen1 Ok I already proved that my computers better than the ones you showed me. You have such a boner for apple you say anything to attempt to prove apples better, ANY OTHER COMPUTER CAN PLAY 3D GAMES, and Apple computers don't have good enough video cards for them to look good anyways
xXxpAuLbxXx 2 months ago
It doesn't crash
Yes it does! And it does it alot. The difference between a pc based on Windows crashing and a Mac is that on the pc the crash is in 99% of the cases caused by badly coded third party software, when the Mac just has a faulty operating system. There is another fun part about crashes on the mac, it's almost always impossible to trace the source of the crash. When your mac crashes you simply reinstall the system. Sounds like a fun thing to do on your spare time, well buy a Mac then
oConshien 2 months ago
This is maybe the ultimate reason a mac owner will give you to explain why it's superior to a PC. The mac owner will tell you that with a system from Apple you will never have to think about drivers, upgrades or anything. A mac is perfection itself when delivered. Atleast according to their standard. Many mac:s can't even be upgraded. So what you buy is what you get. Expect your system to be outdated within 1-2 years.
oConshien 2 months ago
@shewolfen1 who the fuck wants to get a headache when playing a game? and yes, 3d fucking gaming was made for the pc, mac just followed along...
oConshien 2 months ago
@shewolfen1 i know you do, you think macs are good...end of convo, u can reply if u want
oConshien 2 months ago
@shewolfen1 at least windows computers' keyboards dont have a broken caps lock key...goml bitch, look up the Gamer Xtreme 1000 SE
oConshien 2 months ago
@shewolfen1 Hmmm good one, i guess a chant is the only way left to prove a point since facts aren't working in your favour
xXxpAuLbxXx 2 months ago
@shewolfen1 My Computer: Acer Aspire 3.2GHz Quad Core Intel i5, 6gb DDR3 memory, 1.5TB Hard Drive, ATI Radeon HD 5570 1024MB, Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit, price = $399.99. And who needs high quality outside construction, do you drop your desktop a lot? Mine could handle a 4 foot drop, but that is NEVER going to happen anyways. Because of this "high quality", you cannot easily access the inside to ever upgrade parts in the future, meaning you have to upgrade with ANOTHER expensive computer.
xXxpAuLbxXx 2 months ago
@shewolfen1 Just because it costs more doesn't make it instantly better, I looked at apples website and couldn't find a better iMac than my $400 pc. For $2000 you should be getting a computer MUCH better than mine, (yet apparently a pc is a cheap knockoff) but pc's seem to have much more power for a fraction of the price. So what exactly are you getting for this extra $1600 that makes a pc seem like a "cheap" choice?
xXxpAuLbxXx 2 months ago
@xXxpAuLbxXx A shiny object. They pay $1600 for the name alone.
artistwithouttalent 1 month ago
@shewolfen1 How come modern games don't run on a Mac if it is so far ahead? It was ALWAYS possible to run more operating systems on one PC. Maybe you only know Windows, but when I was a kid I installed OS/2, UNIX, CPM, MS-DOS and Windows on one PC.
EendjeKwak 2 months ago
Linux beat them all :P
ilikewebm 2 months ago
Don't you miss the "Hide comments" button?
MrTokyo34 2 months ago
playing games on ma floating monitor of win~~~
Elastane 2 months ago
Just learn about how computers work fundamentally and use linux. Anything you build to suit you from the ground up will be better than an OTB solve-all.
Only exception is you've gotta have Windows to do serious gaming, for anything commercial. Macs are more secure because they use the "app store": just a fancy term for the good old repository. Harder to get viruses, good for home studio if you can pay for the brand.
When you build it yourself, you can't help but love it. STOP THE HATE! lol...
clipophile 2 months ago
@shewolfen1 The only problem I've ever had out of those is a couple viruses, and its been years since the last one, which isn't a big deal anyways. On my new pc I'm able to run new games perfectly, while my friend with a new mac can't even run cod4 at a high enough frame rate to be playable. So apparently I got WAY more than I paid for if his mac was over $1000. The only thing that takes longer than 5 seconds to load up is iTunes, and I've had so many problems with it in the past couple years
xXxpAuLbxXx 2 months ago
240p, we meet again.
>:)
KiwiZap 2 months ago
Was this possible on the old macs? I know intel macs can run windows or is apple bsing us in this commercial?
monkeybutt782 2 months ago
@shewolfen1 That's considered good? My $400 computer is better than that...
xXxpAuLbxXx 2 months ago
@shewolfen ...With an advanced ATI graphics card, system support/warranty for 2 years, and a monitor. Also, manufacturers such as dell make Artistic pcs too, this is mine: Dell XPS 8300. Looks awesome- and has epic (lol) technology inside, as I described earlier.
samhuang1999 2 months ago
0:08のところの左のところがはずれています。
hidekasukun 2 months ago
@shewolfen1 umad bro?
xboxnissan 2 months ago
@shewolfen1 *sigh 1000s got me a macbook air with 6gb ram i3, 1000 dollars also got me a HP with 16gb ram and i7 core processor... viruses depend on the OS, go ahead and install Mac on a pc and youll be happy.
samhuang1999 2 months ago
@shewolfen1 I was just making a joke
Personally i prefer the MAC
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soiralknarf 2 months ago
What's with all the PC fanboys?
Frankman725 2 months ago
@Frankman725 Not PC fanboys, people who hate with an unbridled passion the idiotic rantings of hardcore Mac fanboys. My personal limit is when the individual says anything about Macs not getting viruses or worms.
PCs aren't nearly as artistically inclined as Macs (the computers not the users, to clarify.), and Macs don't do hardcore gaming or straight business stuff on par with PCs
artistwithouttalent 1 month ago
innovative! Only hope the apple doesn't rot without Steve Jobs. RIP
XyPunk77 2 months ago
@shewolfen1 Issues, problems, crashes,
fixes, spyware, virus, trojans,
worms, rootkits, patches,...
It all starts with you.
oj17jxct2 2 months ago
@oj17jxct2 louder please. lol ;-P
XyPunk77 2 months ago
@shewolfen1 if you had enough intelligence to know what spyware is, or how to use a PC to begin with, your computer wouldn't be in the state it is, which is much like the state of my grandmothers PC. btw, the board with buttons on it you use to type with, above the left shift is button that says caps lock, if you push that it should fix your font.
oj17jxct2 2 months ago
Probably why they switched to using Intel. Mac couldn't float, so they joined the PC camp. I remember working with them in IT, the Power Mac crashed a few times daily doing development. The NT workstations did that once per month, if that..
MrKingmino 2 months ago
HELLO IM A PC AND I CAN FLOAT
TAKE THAT MAC
CheepCheep64 2 months ago
@CheepCheep64 LOL You are "Politically Correct"!
XyPunk77 2 months ago
@XyPunk77 Nice joke! :D
thecpsuperman 2 months ago
@shewolfen1 Slow booting? My PC boot in only 35 secs. PC crashes or blue screen of death is only a remembrance since I have w7, same with slow reaction. Maybe you are talking about last decade but now those problems are from the past.
CopyCris 2 months ago
@shewolfen1 I see, does it involve a lot of shouting?
MatteusNova 2 months ago
@shewolfen1 OK, fair enough. Just make sure you don't put that on your job application.
MatteusNova 2 months ago
@shewolfen1 Is your caps lock stuck, or do you always type everything in capitals? Maybe you haven't gotten to that in school, yet.
MatteusNova 2 months ago
Mac stopped being a REAL Mac in hardware when they switched to intel CPUs, now they are only a PC with another OS. A lot of Macbooks fails because of heating issues, I have one on my repair desk that I have to get a replacement motherboard for. The Mac center here wanted $1500 to do the job, on a C2D from 2009.
MatteusNova 2 months ago
dudes and dudettes calm down windows 7, mac whatever they are just computers.. Spread love people not hate, we have enough of that already...
georgedism 2 months ago
@shewolfen1 Are you smoking crack?? Xeon CPU??? I don't think so, check Intel's page for CPUs and read up on what a Xeon is. 3GB memory? Wow, I see sub 500 USD Laptops from Toshiba, HP everyday that can easily be upgraded to 8 GB for $50 - 100.
MatteusNova 2 months ago
@shewolfen1 yes and no.
They have the hardware, but don't have the software. They will never do. A close system will never prevail as history has shown us.
iOS is next unfortunately.
kriss2005 2 months ago
I don't understand why people keep on thinking Apple is like 50000 times better than Windows. Yes Apple computers are good, but can they run the newest games that are out on the market? Didn't think so. They are also very overpriced. But they're really good for things like video editing. Now with Windows, it's very cheap, good for gaming. But they also usually have slow boot-up times. So they're equal. Big whup. Deal with it.
christianboy696 2 months ago 8
@christianboy696 Yes, but business mongols don't really care "if it can run Crisis"
MrTokyo34 2 months ago
@christianboy696 sony vegas pro and avid (some of the best video editing programs out there other than aee) aren't on mac
oConshien 2 months ago
@Rayman77792
What the hell is an IBOOK? Do you mean an iMac?
christianboy696 2 months ago
@christianboy696 An iBook was the consumer level notebook before the intel switch. Google it.
ConfusedBatman 2 months ago
@shewolfen1 I hope you're trolling.
everettpf3 2 months ago
@shewolfen1 I don' t care what you say! Windows is the people, Mac is just a club...
CopyCris 2 months ago
120p.
ratchetandclankf 2 months ago
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ishtiaqakhushi 2 months ago
I don't care what anybody says. Computers from the 1990s are cute!
I still have mine. :)
1ShineStar1 2 months ago
wow my coputer moniter didnt hover
SuperNinja221 2 months ago
Apple sells you a compouter with the same graphics chip and an i5 for 2 or 3 times the cost? O.o
MatteusNova 2 months ago
Windows works with nothing but a floating monitor?
Windows wins.
purplewowies 2 months ago 11
240p we meet again.....
steyn1001 2 months ago
the company who constantly burns there competitor of course would want to run there competitors os, go you!
MrFuzzycouch 2 months ago
PC won at last.
- Pancreatic Cancer.
MrTheperson101 2 months ago
Windows Can Float
Mac Can Annoy People With Ads
Mac Is Thin As Paper It Should Float
BUT WINDOWS 95 CAN FLOAT!
PucciPuppy 2 months ago
yer you dont c microsoft running apple but apple running microsoft
PCandconsoleguy 2 months ago
When I had an IBOOK in middle school it never crashed. The worst thing that happened was the backlight went out. In highschool we got Dell laptops, mine only crashed 5 times.
Rayman77792 2 months ago
Thumbs up if you watching this
idoify 2 months ago
FUNNY
MrNintendovirtualboy 2 months ago
i dont get it ...
MrShimizoo 2 months ago
Fuck mac, windows can float!
ConfusedBatman 2 months ago 72
@ConfusedBatman Heh, nice one :P
robinjam304 2 months ago
@ConfusedBatman FYI, the monitors are hanged up to the wall.
0404SP 2 months ago
Reply to another video if you love God
Remember he saw you read this
dlair121 2 months ago
From Typewriters Too... Computers... Laptops.... Mobile Phone Apps & Internet Netbooks... IPAD.... EReaders...Tablets... What Next?
ClaireeyyyyDarling 2 months ago
LOL, and this was when MAC Os was getting is ass whupped by MS. Steve Jobs could not have returned sooner.
hbk92701 2 months ago
Rivals' operating system is mutual? It is interesting!
TheWindowsServer2003 2 months ago
Nobody ever wanted to emulate Mac ;D
t1czer 2 months ago 8
Windows 95, a tribute to the power of exclusivisity contracts and kickbacks. Any person who knows the history of the period knows that the TRUE advanced OS of the period for a PC was OS Warp, from IBM, which could actually MULTITASK among other features that wouldn't show up in any Windows format until XP. And, if you wanted an alternative and not a Mac, the Amiga's graphics AND multitasking abilities were so advanced that a late 80's Amiga can run Quake, something late 90's PCs found tough.
ryoushii 2 months ago
Lol look how small the mac is compared to the fatass windows computer xD
metakight4 2 months ago