Who on earth would let a 12-year old watch this movie? You may have watched it with a huge smile (which I seriously doubt), but you most certainly didn't get what it's about.
Hahaha! I thought Salo was a masterpiece of cinema, however - vomit inducing? Nah. I think it's reputation is more scandalizing than the film itself. Nevertheless, great short on it!
Salo wasn't that bad. If you're disturbed by Salo, or Snuff 102, or Last House on the Left, then watching the nightly news should make you just as upset.
Deep, but very simplistic. Had to think about it for a while... I like the point of, why couldn't it ended with something happy... it brought me once again to realization of reality, so simple yet so complex. For me it first of all comes as an emotion, that suddenly just hits. I believe it's a good short movie to make even the young person wonder. Speaking about the movie itself... what can I say... a lot have been said, enough have been said.
Im lucky that by the time I saw Salo I had already become desensitized by watching other disturbing films of similar nature. I can kind of understand Aaron's reaction but I don't think that the movie was that disturbing. I mean, Im an aspiring film maker so I know how movies work and are made. So it kind of devenomizes it in a way.
Certainly Pasolini gives us a lot to talk about but I just wanted to congratulate you for this little film; I loved it. although the last line left me wondering what it meant... still, I guess that was the point, no? anyway. great stuff :)
in fact whats more more thoughtless than tagging everyone with a more complex reaction to this carefully nuanced send up of mankind's best & brightest than yourself- 'Evil'-
....Can we too graduate from half assed Mcfilm criticism academy?
I think Pasolini is over-rated. He is not a bad director tho and Salo was well made in some ways. Salo is also a sadistic pervert's delight. Im sure many evil people get great delight in watching this film. It looks like some of them might have left comments here.
Any time you put yourself out there with truth, you never know how that is going to fit into every mind that is exposed to it. Think of all the songwriters who need bodyguards because some psychotic fan thinks the song is speaking to him. It is the same with Salo. Of course people are going to ge aroused and delighted with some of the cruelty, welcome to planet earth, spaceman. But you cannot take away the fact that this film is a clever attack on Italian neo-conservative establishment.
I'm still not sure what to think about it. It was a good reflection of what went on at that time and a window into the evil world of fascists. The film was well crafted in general and not 'just' a series of shocking scenes.
It was clever how the director shot the last part of the film. It had a subtle kind of horror and the various musical pieces were perfect, setting the mood and even creating irony. The last scenes were truly horrific, such as the scalping (which DID actually look realistic).
It's as if society needs to see films like this every now and again for whatever reason. There's always a few unique well made ones like this that get thru and then become a kind of example of how far you can go in film.
Reservoir Dogs springs to mind as well. It is a horrible film, but had to be made. It showed what really happens in some crime circles.
Salo probably showed what happened in those fascist days as well.
Salo was a protest. Pasolini is a great artist who had his own views of life. His writings are just amazing thing, I don't really know why it isn't popular. It can be compared to Proust and others
I get what you're doing. I can't stand how people have become so blase about Salo. It's supposed to make us angry. I've had conversations with people over Salo like this - they thought there was something depraved about me because I told them to watch it.
BTW, I don't know if it's Aaron's initial confusion and trauma, but the most complex aspect of Salo is the willingness of the slaves to play their parts. It's not black-and-white. There are scenes where they laugh and enjoy themselves.
Oh, and when I first saw this with a group of people in a film class, there were people leaving during the film - one girl went to throw up, and a friend of mine went outside and sat under a tree on campus; he said he had to get back in touch with the beauty of nature. Aaron's dramatic reaction captures a host of negative (or positive?) reactions to the film. Well done, guys.
I disagree. I did not get angry watching this, I started to think about the craft of the filmmaker, and to ask myself what he is trying to tell me, because there is a narrative that is below the surface. The images are only cues and clues to intent. The intent is to castigate fascism as a putrid belief system, and that is only a starting point. I felt a little bit sorry for the blond girl who first partakes of turd, but the kids ended up being worse than their masters, selling each other out.
Nice try guys, but it became far too "serious" far too quickly. The dialogue was too trite, full of rhetorical questions. Nobody gets as upset as blondie did about movies with rape scenes, children or not. Sure, it is disturbing, just not to the extent that the characters are trying to represent. The line about "it's a big fuckin world out there, and sometimes it gets pretty dark", around 6:40, is where the actual content really starts. Too much filler content. just too over the top
It was very canadian... And well done nonetheless. No matter what nationality and race, there will be some that make good video and some that make wastefull ones... C'est la vie.
few years ago, two parents went out for dinner. A few hours later, the babysitter was calling to ask if she could cover up the clown statue in the kids' room, the father said,"Take the kids and get out of the house. We'll call the police, we don't have a clown statue." The "clown statue" is really a killer that escaped from jail. If you don't post this letter on to 10 videos tonight, the clown will be in your bed at 3:00 am with a chainsaw in his hand;sorry i didnt want that happening to me
It was an interesting concept but the dialogue was a little trite and forced which, subsequently, affected the acting.
This is not meant to be a total slam on your movie, but there were a couple of things that really stuck out and the dialogue is one. That's almost an unavoidable problem when you're doing a really short movie, though. It's really easy to try to say too much.
Regardless, food for thought for sure. Three stars.
few years ago, two parents went out for dinner. A few hours later, the babysitter was calling to ask if she could cover up the clown statue in the kids' room, the father said,"Take the kids and get out of the house. We'll call the police, we don't have a clown statue." The "clown statue" is really a killer that escaped from jail. If you don't post this letter on to 10 videos tonight, the clown will be in your bed at 3:00 am with a chainsaw in his hand(SORRY BOUT SPAM THIS REALLY FREAKS ME)
what is the big deal with salo? What is shocking about this film is the willingness of traditional and political agencies to do what they want with "people".
Yes. Pasolini did not aspire to be a filmmaker, instead he found film the best medium to express social criticism of bad idelogies. His whole life was about facing down bad systems and the people who make us all eat shit. I think that Salo is a film worth studying dozens of times, because it has visual details everywhere that bear me out. Notice the prosthetic huge penises on the boys in the final torture scenes. Greeks satirised unrefined or beastly people the same way. Details abound.
wow! thank you SO much for posting this. i have been searching for this movie for so long now. and tonight i dont know what inspired me to give it another youtube shot, but i did, and sure enough it turned up. i loved it, and i love salo. and the blond guy with the styled hair was really cute! the other guy sorta reminded me of arnie from christine. anyway, thanks for posting! i have FINALLY seen talk salo.
Yes, the actors were all adults, but Aaron does not know this.
Yes, there were worse rape scenes filmed in the last 30 years, but the cold detached manor in which Pasolini filmed his deprives them of exploitation or a titilative response.
And there was no redemption, I'm sorry to say. The laughter, dancing, and playing was done by three trolls having a last fling before going to hell.
Very good points. Two fantastic movies. The trouble is, when I was growing up, rape scenes for the most part were filmed in a manner to titilate the male audience. Regarding Deliverance, even that scene has become a cliche, a punchline, which is sad because that film gave me nightmares as a kid, and Ned Beatty's scream when he is violated has haunted me for years.
I've been wanting to see your film for awhile, Shawn, so I'm glad you finally posted it on here. Aaron is a little like the boys at the end turning up the radio and dancing so they can't hear the screams, isn't he?
Hey Catmatt. Thanks for the comments -- I appreciate your thoughtful response. I think he *was* trying not to hear the screams, but the result of watching the movie forced him to turn down the internal radio and start listening intently to what they were trying to tell him. And, to me at least, when he says at the end, "I don't know where to start," he finally achieves the redemption he was searching for. So, as dark as it all is, I like to think the movie ends "up".
This is a good schoolboy attempt at dialogue about an important movie. The two guards at the end of the film hold the key to the whole film. They represent the new fascism of Pasolini's 1974 Italy. If you look today, the same bastards are running the country. It is as corrupt as it ever was, so Pasolini ended up being a real prophet as well. The new fascism was schooled by the old, and the film shows this brilliantly. Most weak people simply had visceral reactions to an intellingent film.
he threw up? im twelve and i watched that movie with a huge smile
TheGameLover666 9 months ago
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Who on earth would let a 12-year old watch this movie? You may have watched it with a huge smile (which I seriously doubt), but you most certainly didn't get what it's about.
Erynalwiin 8 months ago
@Erynalwiin o really,?
TheGameLover666 8 months ago
Hahaha! I thought Salo was a masterpiece of cinema, however - vomit inducing? Nah. I think it's reputation is more scandalizing than the film itself. Nevertheless, great short on it!
luis6079 10 months ago
Salo wasn't that bad. If you're disturbed by Salo, or Snuff 102, or Last House on the Left, then watching the nightly news should make you just as upset.
deadcopyo 1 year ago
Jesus, who wrote this trite crap? "It's a big a big fuckin world out there and sometimes it gets pretty dark!" Pasolini is rolling over in his grave.
couchpants123 1 year ago
it's an unpleasent film. Yet above all it's an extremley important film.
gunslinger861 1 year ago
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Deep, but very simplistic. Had to think about it for a while... I like the point of, why couldn't it ended with something happy... it brought me once again to realization of reality, so simple yet so complex. For me it first of all comes as an emotion, that suddenly just hits. I believe it's a good short movie to make even the young person wonder. Speaking about the movie itself... what can I say... a lot have been said, enough have been said.
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Im lucky that by the time I saw Salo I had already become desensitized by watching other disturbing films of similar nature. I can kind of understand Aaron's reaction but I don't think that the movie was that disturbing. I mean, Im an aspiring film maker so I know how movies work and are made. So it kind of devenomizes it in a way.
SithianHawk 1 year ago
Certainly Pasolini gives us a lot to talk about but I just wanted to congratulate you for this little film; I loved it. although the last line left me wondering what it meant... still, I guess that was the point, no? anyway. great stuff :)
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antag0nismo 2 years ago
in fact whats more more thoughtless than tagging everyone with a more complex reaction to this carefully nuanced send up of mankind's best & brightest than yourself- 'Evil'-
....Can we too graduate from half assed Mcfilm criticism academy?
icantfindanamethis 2 years ago
Just because you didn't have a good laugh watching walking scenery eating sh*t Antag doesn't mean the rest of us cant comprenday? :)
....we do it every night on prime time, i fail to see the difference
icantfindanamethis 2 years ago
I think Pasolini is over-rated. He is not a bad director tho and Salo was well made in some ways. Salo is also a sadistic pervert's delight. Im sure many evil people get great delight in watching this film. It looks like some of them might have left comments here.
antag0nismo 2 years ago
Any time you put yourself out there with truth, you never know how that is going to fit into every mind that is exposed to it. Think of all the songwriters who need bodyguards because some psychotic fan thinks the song is speaking to him. It is the same with Salo. Of course people are going to ge aroused and delighted with some of the cruelty, welcome to planet earth, spaceman. But you cannot take away the fact that this film is a clever attack on Italian neo-conservative establishment.
rolexmonger 2 years ago
I'm still not sure what to think about it. It was a good reflection of what went on at that time and a window into the evil world of fascists. The film was well crafted in general and not 'just' a series of shocking scenes.
It was clever how the director shot the last part of the film. It had a subtle kind of horror and the various musical pieces were perfect, setting the mood and even creating irony. The last scenes were truly horrific, such as the scalping (which DID actually look realistic).
antag0nismo 2 years ago
It's as if society needs to see films like this every now and again for whatever reason. There's always a few unique well made ones like this that get thru and then become a kind of example of how far you can go in film.
Reservoir Dogs springs to mind as well. It is a horrible film, but had to be made. It showed what really happens in some crime circles.
Salo probably showed what happened in those fascist days as well.
antag0nismo 2 years ago
i'm glad you've made this movie..
but listen - don't you think you've made it a little too dramatic?
AntanasObcarskas 2 years ago
I agree it's overly dramatic, but , well, wasn't Salo, too?
gabsylv 2 years ago
Salo was a protest. Pasolini is a great artist who had his own views of life. His writings are just amazing thing, I don't really know why it isn't popular. It can be compared to Proust and others
AntanasObcarskas 2 years ago
what a whining fkin pussy,i liked the film it made me laff,that shit eating scene was the tops
cripplewoox 2 years ago
oh come on puking?
lightweight
feel good movie of the year
icantfindanamethis 3 years ago
Go and join the army you thoughtless shit!
antag0nismo 2 years ago
That was fabulous, and so resonant with me. Thanks, guys.
choclytgremlins 3 years ago
I get what you're doing. I can't stand how people have become so blase about Salo. It's supposed to make us angry. I've had conversations with people over Salo like this - they thought there was something depraved about me because I told them to watch it.
tonyatmidnight 3 years ago
BTW, I don't know if it's Aaron's initial confusion and trauma, but the most complex aspect of Salo is the willingness of the slaves to play their parts. It's not black-and-white. There are scenes where they laugh and enjoy themselves.
tonyatmidnight 3 years ago
Oh, and when I first saw this with a group of people in a film class, there were people leaving during the film - one girl went to throw up, and a friend of mine went outside and sat under a tree on campus; he said he had to get back in touch with the beauty of nature. Aaron's dramatic reaction captures a host of negative (or positive?) reactions to the film. Well done, guys.
tonyatmidnight 3 years ago
Thanks for your thoughtful comments, tony. I'm glad the film spoke to you and that you were able to identify with its POV... :)
spostoff 3 years ago
I disagree. I did not get angry watching this, I started to think about the craft of the filmmaker, and to ask myself what he is trying to tell me, because there is a narrative that is below the surface. The images are only cues and clues to intent. The intent is to castigate fascism as a putrid belief system, and that is only a starting point. I felt a little bit sorry for the blond girl who first partakes of turd, but the kids ended up being worse than their masters, selling each other out.
rolexmonger 2 years ago
.....Nah.
Nice try guys, but it became far too "serious" far too quickly. The dialogue was too trite, full of rhetorical questions. Nobody gets as upset as blondie did about movies with rape scenes, children or not. Sure, it is disturbing, just not to the extent that the characters are trying to represent. The line about "it's a big fuckin world out there, and sometimes it gets pretty dark", around 6:40, is where the actual content really starts. Too much filler content. just too over the top
zenmastermatt 3 years ago 2
It was very canadian... And well done nonetheless. No matter what nationality and race, there will be some that make good video and some that make wastefull ones... C'est la vie.
luc59457 3 years ago
Cool video, come see mine. Less talk of the problems more talk of solutions.
luc59457 3 years ago
This was excellent. Aaron's POV on the film was similiar to mine. Loved the music as well!
JaymeNoordermeer 3 years ago
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few years ago, two parents went out for dinner. A few hours later, the babysitter was calling to ask if she could cover up the clown statue in the kids' room, the father said,"Take the kids and get out of the house. We'll call the police, we don't have a clown statue." The "clown statue" is really a killer that escaped from jail. If you don't post this letter on to 10 videos tonight, the clown will be in your bed at 3:00 am with a chainsaw in his hand;sorry i didnt want that happening to me
4bLueLove 3 years ago
Well, it was very... Canadian.
It was an interesting concept but the dialogue was a little trite and forced which, subsequently, affected the acting.
This is not meant to be a total slam on your movie, but there were a couple of things that really stuck out and the dialogue is one. That's almost an unavoidable problem when you're doing a really short movie, though. It's really easy to try to say too much.
Regardless, food for thought for sure. Three stars.
frostythesasquatch 3 years ago
Wrenching in it's intensity.
RunGord 3 years ago
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few years ago, two parents went out for dinner. A few hours later, the babysitter was calling to ask if she could cover up the clown statue in the kids' room, the father said,"Take the kids and get out of the house. We'll call the police, we don't have a clown statue." The "clown statue" is really a killer that escaped from jail. If you don't post this letter on to 10 videos tonight, the clown will be in your bed at 3:00 am with a chainsaw in his hand(SORRY BOUT SPAM THIS REALLY FREAKS ME)
ASSYRIANFOOTBALER 3 years ago
what is the big deal with salo? What is shocking about this film is the willingness of traditional and political agencies to do what they want with "people".
965322 3 years ago
Nicely done--!
I'd love to see the same thing done...but with a classroom full of 'Aarons'.
cold6001 3 years ago
Yes. Pasolini did not aspire to be a filmmaker, instead he found film the best medium to express social criticism of bad idelogies. His whole life was about facing down bad systems and the people who make us all eat shit. I think that Salo is a film worth studying dozens of times, because it has visual details everywhere that bear me out. Notice the prosthetic huge penises on the boys in the final torture scenes. Greeks satirised unrefined or beastly people the same way. Details abound.
rolexmonger 2 years ago
wow! thank you SO much for posting this. i have been searching for this movie for so long now. and tonight i dont know what inspired me to give it another youtube shot, but i did, and sure enough it turned up. i loved it, and i love salo. and the blond guy with the styled hair was really cute! the other guy sorta reminded me of arnie from christine. anyway, thanks for posting! i have FINALLY seen talk salo.
saltrapty 3 years ago
By the way ...
Yes, the actors were all adults, but Aaron does not know this.
Yes, there were worse rape scenes filmed in the last 30 years, but the cold detached manor in which Pasolini filmed his deprives them of exploitation or a titilative response.
And there was no redemption, I'm sorry to say. The laughter, dancing, and playing was done by three trolls having a last fling before going to hell.
MyNameIsCatmatt 3 years ago
What about Jodie Foster's rape scene in "The Accused"?
Or Ned Beatty's rape scene in "Deliverance"
Those too has no exploitative value and are meant to show how brutal and humiliating rape is.
And are you forgetting the dinner scene?
The kids laughed at the jokes despite being forced to eat shit.
nirbateman 3 years ago
Very good points. Two fantastic movies. The trouble is, when I was growing up, rape scenes for the most part were filmed in a manner to titilate the male audience. Regarding Deliverance, even that scene has become a cliche, a punchline, which is sad because that film gave me nightmares as a kid, and Ned Beatty's scream when he is violated has haunted me for years.
MyNameIsCatmatt 3 years ago
I've been wanting to see your film for awhile, Shawn, so I'm glad you finally posted it on here. Aaron is a little like the boys at the end turning up the radio and dancing so they can't hear the screams, isn't he?
MyNameIsCatmatt 3 years ago
Hey Catmatt. Thanks for the comments -- I appreciate your thoughtful response. I think he *was* trying not to hear the screams, but the result of watching the movie forced him to turn down the internal radio and start listening intently to what they were trying to tell him. And, to me at least, when he says at the end, "I don't know where to start," he finally achieves the redemption he was searching for. So, as dark as it all is, I like to think the movie ends "up".
spostoff 3 years ago
Aaron's argument isn't quiet right.
The actors were all adults and worse rape scenes were filmed in the last 30 years.
And as for redemption,they were laughing,dancing and playing.
so someone has not been watching the movie and understanding the genius that is Pasolini.
nirbateman 3 years ago
This is a good schoolboy attempt at dialogue about an important movie. The two guards at the end of the film hold the key to the whole film. They represent the new fascism of Pasolini's 1974 Italy. If you look today, the same bastards are running the country. It is as corrupt as it ever was, so Pasolini ended up being a real prophet as well. The new fascism was schooled by the old, and the film shows this brilliantly. Most weak people simply had visceral reactions to an intellingent film.
rolexmonger 2 years ago