ill tell you all right now, if thats a v7 at VH in ventura, its a v7. Thats one of the highest quality gyms in the nation with some of the strongest, smartest setters. the grading is consistent and the problems are quality. if that was a v7, then nice job dude.
Okay, let me preface this by saying that that was a really nice climb and your technique is solid and well-defined, and I have never climbed in that gym so I am probably missing some element here, but we have a couple of routes in the gym I climb at that are almost identical in arrangement (all slopers, crimps, and small pinches) and it only rates a V5, but there you go, the V-grading system is a relative system and will likely vary greatly from one gym to the next.
@Lunartrek the problem doesnt need to require and sort of tricky sequence, and all slopers, crimpers and angles of walls are different,...just because your wall is arranged with identical crimps and slopers does not mean its more of a 5 then 7...
vertical heaven v7 = v7 ...and im not even from california
@jgraddon You misread my comment, I fully agree that a rating is a rating and can only be applied to the place it is rated in. It's a V7 in that gym, though if it were placed exactly so and on the same wall type/inclination, it would likely be rated very differently. It's a matter of the subjective nature of rating a route/problem. It presents a climber with a means of gauging progress, that's what matters.
I must say i had the chance to climb this route. and yes i will say that it is a solid V7. and to all of those who would slander the hard work of another, without even putting your hands on the wall to give it a chance. i would have to call you a fool Discovery Zone, only a fool would spread his pathetic opinion about other peoples work. i hope you enjoy climbing outside because nobody would want to climb with a negative little bitch. hopefully you would be wise and not write back...... please.
@adrianoteles Grades vary from gym to gym and there is no "precise" way to grade a bouldering problem or a climbing route. At best, a climbing grade is a rough mix of opinion, experience, and climbing styles of those involved in naming the grade with a little bit of knowledge thrown in for balance and modest consistency. It's really just meant to help a climber gauge their progress.
If people wanted to give the experienced climbers among us a means of grading for ourselves they would talk beta.
Discoveryzone... you are an idiot... and the sad part is that you probably actually believe that you're right. The climbing world would like you out of our sport. You suck!
For the last couple days, I have been greatly looking forward to coming home and reading your stupid responses, as it is not very often that I am privileged to converse with a real-life retard.
If anything, this conversation has proven that you climb for numbers and ego above all things. If this were not true, you wouldn't have challenged the grade in the first place, as it was obviously pointless. Consequentially, you have been shut the fuck down. Have fun in the gym.
So if I am so lame as to express my view and post a simple comment.
no way thats a v7
if this outrageous and incomprehensible slander has hurt someone, I apologize. here is the guy who insists on insulting the apparent lame guy who speaks of these atrocities
also I apologize for your English insecurities, perhaps a GED may help?
....my "English insecurities" were making fun of your first comment, which you now deleted. You are the epitome stupid gym rippers. Think about that next time you rip your shirt off in the gym and brag to your boyfriend about your latest V4+.
You can't say what the ratings are just from watching a video. Have you ever actually climbed? You can't judge it just by looking from far away you have to actually climb it.
undoubtedly you must be the GOD of climbing and your abilities are of the supernatural. i am honored to have shared this enlightening moment with such an aficionado for righteousness.
If this was true, you wouldn't be arguing about grades on youtube. I swear, people sit around online all day spraying about plastic climbs..." that's not a V5, more like V0+. Get over it. If you truly felt competent about your climbing abilities, you: a) wouldn't be on youtube pointlessly debating grades, and b) wouldn't be getting jealous to the point of helplessly spraying your self-proclaimed climbing abilities.
-Mark
p.s.- It's not a post script unless you end the message.
@skankinpicklebitch I'm probably jumping into what amounts to a puddle of shit and I don't mean to add to the nonsense, but I just wanted to point out that not all comments regarding actual route/problem grades are done by "gym rippers" intending to insult others or incite immature debates. The fact is, even people in gyms all over the world will sit and discuss or debate grades for the sheer enjoyment of sharing perspectives on the sport and to better define a set of moves for one another.
What exactly inspired you to post your first comment? Was it the possibility that there may be someone in the world that climbs better than you? Please answer, although all implications point to you being a 12 year old gym rat. Climb because you like to climb, not so that you can spray about numbers. People like you are the problem with climbing. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Yes... you must be 12, as you're combating my logical arguments with immature accusations that only a chode gobbling gym ripper could concoct. Next time you're arguing about numbers on youtube, I hope you think of this message and remember how much of an incompetent idiot you are. Oh, and you didn't answer my previous question yet (it wasn't rhetorical), so again: what made you post your first comment?
this problem has holds that are completely too convenient for a v7 problem. every hand and foot hold corresponds too easily for it to have such a high difficulty. granted they are decent sloppers, however there is no serious crux nor is the problem notoriously long for such a rating. perhaps a v4 would be much more fitting.
Quif!
Poopsnuff 1 year ago
Jon Hartmann poops his pants while he climbs!
Poopsnuff 1 year ago
ill tell you all right now, if thats a v7 at VH in ventura, its a v7. Thats one of the highest quality gyms in the nation with some of the strongest, smartest setters. the grading is consistent and the problems are quality. if that was a v7, then nice job dude.
jgraddon 1 year ago
this dude's arms are mad skinny.
BigPerm5000 1 year ago
Nice climb dude. Those slopers look kinda nasty.
AlexDaDojoDude 1 year ago
so pleased with the comment train on this video
almost better than the video itself!
The climb looks rad though
jonathanpezman 1 year ago
Okay, let me preface this by saying that that was a really nice climb and your technique is solid and well-defined, and I have never climbed in that gym so I am probably missing some element here, but we have a couple of routes in the gym I climb at that are almost identical in arrangement (all slopers, crimps, and small pinches) and it only rates a V5, but there you go, the V-grading system is a relative system and will likely vary greatly from one gym to the next.
Lunartrek 1 year ago
@Lunartrek the problem doesnt need to require and sort of tricky sequence, and all slopers, crimpers and angles of walls are different,...just because your wall is arranged with identical crimps and slopers does not mean its more of a 5 then 7...
vertical heaven v7 = v7 ...and im not even from california
jgraddon 1 year ago
@jgraddon You misread my comment, I fully agree that a rating is a rating and can only be applied to the place it is rated in. It's a V7 in that gym, though if it were placed exactly so and on the same wall type/inclination, it would likely be rated very differently. It's a matter of the subjective nature of rating a route/problem. It presents a climber with a means of gauging progress, that's what matters.
Lunartrek 1 year ago
@Lunartrek very differently in the gym I grew up around, that is. Forgot to finish that thought in the sentence. :-/
Lunartrek 1 year ago
nice move at the end! no way i would be able to climb that i suck at slopers
martinmedeski 2 years ago
I must say i had the chance to climb this route. and yes i will say that it is a solid V7. and to all of those who would slander the hard work of another, without even putting your hands on the wall to give it a chance. i would have to call you a fool Discovery Zone, only a fool would spread his pathetic opinion about other peoples work. i hope you enjoy climbing outside because nobody would want to climb with a negative little bitch. hopefully you would be wise and not write back...... please.
totorokm 2 years ago
v7??? dont think so
adrianoteles 2 years ago
@adrianoteles Grades vary from gym to gym and there is no "precise" way to grade a bouldering problem or a climbing route. At best, a climbing grade is a rough mix of opinion, experience, and climbing styles of those involved in naming the grade with a little bit of knowledge thrown in for balance and modest consistency. It's really just meant to help a climber gauge their progress.
If people wanted to give the experienced climbers among us a means of grading for ourselves they would talk beta.
Lunartrek 1 year ago
Discoveryzone... you are an idiot... and the sad part is that you probably actually believe that you're right. The climbing world would like you out of our sport. You suck!
lolohi 2 years ago
almost forgot...
for your future comments refer to --->
you are the ultimate climber + mother teresa
now STFU you cum guzzling retard! perhaps your next 28 days will shine brighter.
gotta keep your follicle-stimulating hormones in check! and of course your LH, proest. and est.
cheers!
Discoveryzone 2 years ago
For the last couple days, I have been greatly looking forward to coming home and reading your stupid responses, as it is not very often that I am privileged to converse with a real-life retard.
If anything, this conversation has proven that you climb for numbers and ego above all things. If this were not true, you wouldn't have challenged the grade in the first place, as it was obviously pointless. Consequentially, you have been shut the fuck down. Have fun in the gym.
skankinpicklebitch 2 years ago
So if I am so lame as to express my view and post a simple comment.
no way thats a v7
if this outrageous and incomprehensible slander has hurt someone, I apologize. here is the guy who insists on insulting the apparent lame guy who speaks of these atrocities
also I apologize for your English insecurities, perhaps a GED may help?
Discoveryzone 2 years ago
....my "English insecurities" were making fun of your first comment, which you now deleted. You are the epitome stupid gym rippers. Think about that next time you rip your shirt off in the gym and brag to your boyfriend about your latest V4+.
skankinpicklebitch 2 years ago
You can't say what the ratings are just from watching a video. Have you ever actually climbed? You can't judge it just by looking from far away you have to actually climb it.
lapopofighting 2 years ago
undoubtedly you must be the GOD of climbing and your abilities are of the supernatural. i am honored to have shared this enlightening moment with such an aficionado for righteousness.
Discoveryzone 2 years ago
glad you consulted your nearest english professor
Discoveryzone 2 years ago
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Discoveryzone 2 years ago
If this was true, you wouldn't be arguing about grades on youtube. I swear, people sit around online all day spraying about plastic climbs..." that's not a V5, more like V0+. Get over it. If you truly felt competent about your climbing abilities, you: a) wouldn't be on youtube pointlessly debating grades, and b) wouldn't be getting jealous to the point of helplessly spraying your self-proclaimed climbing abilities.
-Mark
p.s.- It's not a post script unless you end the message.
skankinpicklebitch 2 years ago
@skankinpicklebitch I'm probably jumping into what amounts to a puddle of shit and I don't mean to add to the nonsense, but I just wanted to point out that not all comments regarding actual route/problem grades are done by "gym rippers" intending to insult others or incite immature debates. The fact is, even people in gyms all over the world will sit and discuss or debate grades for the sheer enjoyment of sharing perspectives on the sport and to better define a set of moves for one another.
Lunartrek 1 year ago
no way that's V7.
Discoveryzone 2 years ago
learn to climb instead of just throwing pussy dynos you jealous thundercunt.
skankinpicklebitch 2 years ago
buddy, i guarantee i can climb anything that you have or will climb.
p.s. you not don't very clever with insults
Discoveryzone 2 years ago
p.s.- you not don't very clever with English.
What exactly inspired you to post your first comment? Was it the possibility that there may be someone in the world that climbs better than you? Please answer, although all implications point to you being a 12 year old gym rat. Climb because you like to climb, not so that you can spray about numbers. People like you are the problem with climbing. You should be ashamed of yourself.
skankinpicklebitch 2 years ago
"you not don't very clever with English"
interesting...
get a life, you obviously need to stop masturbating to mother's panties you creep.
Discoveryzone 2 years ago
Yes... you must be 12, as you're combating my logical arguments with immature accusations that only a chode gobbling gym ripper could concoct. Next time you're arguing about numbers on youtube, I hope you think of this message and remember how much of an incompetent idiot you are. Oh, and you didn't answer my previous question yet (it wasn't rhetorical), so again: what made you post your first comment?
skankinpicklebitch 2 years ago
oh and to get my "you not don't very clever with English" joke, read your first post... yeah. funny, huh?
skankinpicklebitch 2 years ago
retard, there is nothing wrong with...
"i guarantee i can climb anything that you have or will climb"
ask your nearest english professor dumbass!
Discoveryzone 2 years ago
in regards to your previous question...
this problem has holds that are completely too convenient for a v7 problem. every hand and foot hold corresponds too easily for it to have such a high difficulty. granted they are decent sloppers, however there is no serious crux nor is the problem notoriously long for such a rating. perhaps a v4 would be much more fitting.
Discoveryzone 2 years ago