If you can't see that Naz had serious skills then you are clearly blind. Yes he lost his drive much too early, but while he was around he was amazing to watch. There is no shame in losing to M Barrera. Pac lost to Morales, does that mean he's shit? No, of course it doesn't. Barrera didn't destroy Naz. He beat him well but Naz took it for 12 rounds. Remember, Barrera was a fu!!!!g monster back then. Naz could have come back but wasn't up for it. His loss. He was world class though, no doubt.
Kotelnik is prob the toughest fighter at 140. Gavin Rees took the fight to him and was doing good until the last couple. Also bare in mind that Rees is a natural 130 lb'er.
At least Rees gave Kotelnik a fight, Khan just ran all night, and Alexander couldn't do shit.
@agt155 serious? Khan boxed Kotelniks socks off and never looked uncomfortable. Kotelnik dominated Rees, it looked like a complete mismatch. I though Kotelnik beat Devon, but it's not like Kotelnik dominated Devon like he did with Rees.
@thechosen2010 Kotelnik didn't dominate Rees until late on, the fight was close at the time of the stoppage with Kotelnik a point or so up. Khan just pitter pattered Kotelnik's gloves and ran all night, it wasn't a fight it was an embarrassment to boxing. I can't recall Khan landing anything significant throughout the whole fight.
Rees had more punch success than Khan and Alexander combined.
@agt155 Khan hit Kotelnik's gloves because Kotelnik walks around with his gloves over his face all fight, Kotelnik couldn't land anything on Khan because Khan was too quick and skillfull. But Khan didn't run, he just outboxed a slower and less talented opponent. I like Kotelnik but he lost that fight clearly to the better boxer.
@thechosen2010 Kotelnik couldn't land much on Khan because Khan was too scared to stand in front of him. Khan fights scared ever since Prescott destroyed him.
@agt155 Khan is a boxer, not a brawler. Do you even understand the fundamentals of the sport? Is Floyd Mayweather shit because he doesn't brawl? There are many ways to box. Khan doesn't stand toe to toe and fight, he uses speed, and his outside boxing ability to beat his opponents. So what, he lost to Prescott, that was ages ago, that was the kick up the arse he needed. He's a much better fighter now.
@agt155 Okay, let's just wait and see who he fights next. He said it's going to be Maidana, so has Richard Schaifer. If he doesn't fight Maidana or someone as good as or better than Maidana I'll be the first to criticise him.
@LastWhiteRhino Exactly, a complete mismatch. Rees is not world class, he might be a decent domestic level fighter, but he stepped it up against Kotelnik and got spanked. Valiant effort, but not good enough.
@thechosen2010 Khan is the 3rd best English Boxer at the moment, and Naz would struggle to make it in to the top 5 British Boxers of the last 15 years.
Lewis was Canadian (but even if you want to call him British he still knocks Naz down a place), Eubank and Benn were past it in 1995, Hatton was a limited club fighter.
Fucking hell, to say Naz isn't in the top 5 British boxers of the past 15 years is bat shit insane. Pure fucking hater.
@thechosen2010 Lewis, Calzaghe, Hatton and Haye are all above Hamed because they actually beat some quality opposition.
Hamed is around the Froch/Benn/Eubank level.
I rate Gavin Rees as being better than a 'bum'. No 'bum' wins a proper world title, he also won the prizefighter tournament showing he is clearly above domestic level, even above his natural weight category. If Rees campaigned at lightweight he could be something.
@thechosen2010 Froch has beaten Pascal, Taylor and Dirrell. Of course he deserves to be on Benn and Eubanks level. Thinking about it that's far better opposition than Hamed ever beat. If he beats Abraham he will easily push Hamed back another place.
Haye was unified CW champ and is an unbeaten HW world champion, how could you possibly rank Hamed above him? Who did he beat? He faced one top oppnent and got his arse handed to him = fraud.
@agt155 Pascal, a good win. Froch got schooled by a shot Jermaine Taylor, comptetely outclassed. Taylor lost becuase of his shit stamina and because he didn't take a knee in the dying seconds of the fight. Jermaine Taylor beat Jermaine Taylor.
Froch barely beat Dirrell, as soon as Dirrell stopped running in the 6th round he boxed Froch's head off and was hurting Froch. Froch got a hometown decision. A rematch wouldn't even be close. Dirrell would look a class above Froch.
@agt155 David Haye was unified in the weakest division in boxing, fucking Mormeck? Macarenelli? Haha, fuck off. And you say Naz fought bums. Haye is a title holder, not a champion, he's avoiding the two best in the division. Monte Barrett, who is he? Valuev, a big freak who if he was normal size would not be boxing professionally. Ruiz, old, and never spectacular.
Naz beat fighters who were/had been/ or went on to be world champions. And he had flair and power in abundance. He dominated.
@thechosen2010 Who did Naz beat that were better than Taylor, Dirrell and Pascal?
Hamed will be remembered as a huge fraud. He got knocked down 3 times by a shot Kevin Kelly FFS. He looked good against bums, but shit himself against anyone who could fight back.
Hamed is 10-1 against World Champions with 8 KOs. He came back strong to KO Kevin Kelley who went on to beat Humberto Soto and Carlos Hernandez. He has the win against Bingo as well as Tom Johnson who was widely regarded as the top featherweight for a few years before their fight.
Hamed wiped out the Featherweight division, he was fighting the guys on top of the division while guys like Marquez were fighting bums.
@thechosen2010 The featherweight division was terrible until Barrera, Morales, and later Marquez, came along. Where was Hamed?
He had a chance to be a part of the greatest ever featherweight division and he chickened out. Marquez and Morales came back from big fight losses to then win big career defining fights, that is what makes them great.
Hamed got sloppy, he was earning millions and took his foot off the gas, cut corners in training which led to his downfall. Hamed beat all the top featherweights at the time. You could only criticise him for quitting when the likes of Marquez, Morales and Pacman came on the scene, it's not Hamed's fault they didn't step up earlier. And really if your judging him on resume get Calzaghe the fuck off the list, Kessler is his best win. Lacy was shit, RJJ was old. Calz fought bums in wales
@thechosen2010 If Calzaghe had lost to Jeff Lacy then you could compare him to Hamed. He didn't though, and went on to beat the undefeated best of his division, moved up and beat a P4P legend and retired undefeated.
You can never say Hamed was great because he really didn't beat anyone of note. Calzaghe had Hopkins(p4p), Haye had Mormeck(p4p), Hatton had Tszyu(p4p), Lewis had Holyfield(p4p), Hamed had Barrera(p4p) but flunked.
@agt155 Holy shit! You are putting Jeff Lacy in the MAB bracket? Really? Mormeck p4p ranked? Are you having a fucking laugh? Are you new to boxing?
A prime ATG MAB beat a getting past it Naz by 3 points, hardly a shut out. A clear win but not a domination. Great fighters can lose. Naz beat every belt holder in his division to become unified champ his resume is littered with ranked contenders and world champions. Haye ducked Cunningham and Wlodarzyk, he didn't clean up the division. Naz did.
The point is that Calzaghe won his big fight(s) brilliantly, where as Hamed lost his embarrassingly.
It would be a better comparison comparing Lacy to Hamed. Both unbeaten hype machines who got smashed to pieces by the first quality opponent they came up against, and neither recovered from it.
@agt155 But I still can't get over the fact you're saying Jeff Lacy holds up to ATG Barrera and that Mormeck was p4p ranked. Fucking hell, that would be hilarious if it wasn't so embarrassing.
@thechosen2010 No YOU are saying that. The only thing hillarious is your lack of comprehension. Mormeck was around the top 10 after his victory over Bell. But of course you wouldn't know that.
@agt155 "Haye had Mormeck(p4p". Mormeck was no where near p4p ranked. I'm not disputing Calzaghe was better than Naz. But when you put Haye and Froch above Naz you are clearly a hater. Naz ruled the featherweight division whilst it wasn't a division brimming with superstars there were a lot of solid fighters, ranked contenders and world champions who Naz beat. He cleaned out the division by beating every belt holder. He was a champion for 6 years. You are a stubborn.
gavin has one of the biggest hearts of any fighter the only reason he got stopped was because he was so tired if they ver fought again gavin would win
@daveking777 If`s and maybe`s mate...Rees got stopped, end of...cop out saying he was tired...so was the other guy, but he was fitter...thats part of boxing...if they fought again it would be the same..he`s not good enough..he had 12 rounds and proved he was not good enough!!...it`s the same old story...Hatton etc...'oh if they fight again'!...well they had a 12 round fight here and he got fcking beat by a stronger, fitter, smarter fighter.....give credit where it is due... no debating it!
@tacoandbeer B level fighter? That's being generous. Take a look at his records and the records of those he fought before he beat M'Baye. Most of his opponents were bums with more losses than wins.
@thechosen2010 thats sooo original.. your really not funny, dont give up your day job... cock sucker, for comedy will you. lol but he would whoop you, you pussy faggot, what does that make you....... ile tell you, A NOB!
If only kotelnik let his hands go against alexander, he would of won the fight and in clear fashion
MrDoBird 7 months ago
kotelnik the man shame he robed aganist devon alexzander
ghanabanana 1 year ago
Kotelnik is class.
bigdunk9 1 year ago
Andriy Kotelnik is a good fighter he had close fights with Maidana(won) and Alexander
hadwll 1 year ago
If you can't see that Naz had serious skills then you are clearly blind. Yes he lost his drive much too early, but while he was around he was amazing to watch. There is no shame in losing to M Barrera. Pac lost to Morales, does that mean he's shit? No, of course it doesn't. Barrera didn't destroy Naz. He beat him well but Naz took it for 12 rounds. Remember, Barrera was a fu!!!!g monster back then. Naz could have come back but wasn't up for it. His loss. He was world class though, no doubt.
EPmassive 1 year ago
Why are people so against Rees.
Kotelnik is prob the toughest fighter at 140. Gavin Rees took the fight to him and was doing good until the last couple. Also bare in mind that Rees is a natural 130 lb'er.
At least Rees gave Kotelnik a fight, Khan just ran all night, and Alexander couldn't do shit.
agt155 1 year ago
@agt155 well said my man
LastWhiteRhino 1 year ago
@agt155 serious? Khan boxed Kotelniks socks off and never looked uncomfortable. Kotelnik dominated Rees, it looked like a complete mismatch. I though Kotelnik beat Devon, but it's not like Kotelnik dominated Devon like he did with Rees.
thechosen2010 1 year ago
@thechosen2010 Kotelnik didn't dominate Rees until late on, the fight was close at the time of the stoppage with Kotelnik a point or so up. Khan just pitter pattered Kotelnik's gloves and ran all night, it wasn't a fight it was an embarrassment to boxing. I can't recall Khan landing anything significant throughout the whole fight.
Rees had more punch success than Khan and Alexander combined.
agt155 1 year ago
@agt155 Khan hit Kotelnik's gloves because Kotelnik walks around with his gloves over his face all fight, Kotelnik couldn't land anything on Khan because Khan was too quick and skillfull. But Khan didn't run, he just outboxed a slower and less talented opponent. I like Kotelnik but he lost that fight clearly to the better boxer.
thechosen2010 1 year ago
@thechosen2010 Kotelnik couldn't land much on Khan because Khan was too scared to stand in front of him. Khan fights scared ever since Prescott destroyed him.
agt155 1 year ago
@agt155 Khan is a boxer, not a brawler. Do you even understand the fundamentals of the sport? Is Floyd Mayweather shit because he doesn't brawl? There are many ways to box. Khan doesn't stand toe to toe and fight, he uses speed, and his outside boxing ability to beat his opponents. So what, he lost to Prescott, that was ages ago, that was the kick up the arse he needed. He's a much better fighter now.
thechosen2010 1 year ago
@thechosen2010 Don't compare Khan to Mayweather. Mayweather doesn't run, he just has a great defence.
Khan is better now, but he will ALWAYS have a shit chin. It's no secret that he's being protected from anyone who can punch.
agt155 1 year ago
@agt155 being protected from punchers? thats why he's fighting Marcos Maidana next.
Khan is a quality young boxer, he out classed Kotelnik. you are just a hater.
thechosen2010 1 year ago
@thechosen2010 You think he's going to fight Maidana.....LOL
They won't let Khan in the same room as Maidana.
agt155 1 year ago
@agt155 Khan confirmed Maidana was his next opponent on Sky the other day.So yeah, I think he's going to fight him.
thechosen2010 1 year ago
@thechosen2010 Khan's opponents have to be; old; small; and not powerfull.
Maidana doesn't satisfy the criteria, which is why this fight won't happen.
Expect some sort of excuse from Khan, he'll probably say Maidana wants too much money. Khan will then sign to fight some faded old lightweight again.
agt155 1 year ago
@agt155 Okay, let's just wait and see who he fights next. He said it's going to be Maidana, so has Richard Schaifer. If he doesn't fight Maidana or someone as good as or better than Maidana I'll be the first to criticise him.
thechosen2010 1 year ago
@agt155 Khan fought Maidana and won. : )
thechosen2010 1 year ago
@thechosen2010 Yea and ran away for the last 5 rounds....a true warrior!
ston3s 1 year ago
@thechosen2010 look at the size of Rees for fuk sake .. Kotelnik is much bigger.. Khan is a pussy faggot just like you
LastWhiteRhino 1 year ago
@LastWhiteRhino Exactly, a complete mismatch. Rees is not world class, he might be a decent domestic level fighter, but he stepped it up against Kotelnik and got spanked. Valiant effort, but not good enough.
thechosen2010 1 year ago
@LastWhiteRhino Khan is the way, the truth. He's the best British boxer since Naz.
He'd fuck Rees up, he'd fuck Hatton up too.
thechosen2010 1 year ago
@thechosen2010 Best boxer since Naz???
So you mean he looks good against bums and then gets smashed when he steps up.
agt155 1 year ago
@agt155
You a Naz hater too, huh? It takes no figuring out why you hate both Khan and Naz.
thechosen2010 1 year ago
@thechosen2010 It takes no figuring out why you nut-hug Khan and Naz.
agt155 1 year ago
@agt155 cause i'm english and they are both world class boxers.
thechosen2010 1 year ago
@thechosen2010 Khan is the 3rd best English Boxer at the moment, and Naz would struggle to make it in to the top 5 British Boxers of the last 15 years.
agt155 1 year ago
@agt155 Would he fuck? Who's better?
Calzaghe, okay. Uh....then it's probably Naz.
Lewis was Canadian (but even if you want to call him British he still knocks Naz down a place), Eubank and Benn were past it in 1995, Hatton was a limited club fighter.
Fucking hell, to say Naz isn't in the top 5 British boxers of the past 15 years is bat shit insane. Pure fucking hater.
And you rate Gavin Rees? LMAO XD
thechosen2010 1 year ago
@thechosen2010 Lewis, Calzaghe, Hatton and Haye are all above Hamed because they actually beat some quality opposition.
Hamed is around the Froch/Benn/Eubank level.
I rate Gavin Rees as being better than a 'bum'. No 'bum' wins a proper world title, he also won the prizefighter tournament showing he is clearly above domestic level, even above his natural weight category. If Rees campaigned at lightweight he could be something.
agt155 1 year ago
@agt155 LOL, Haye? Better than Hamed? Likewise you're putting Froch on Benn and Eubank's level.
You've just confirmed to me that I need not carry on this conversation as you don't have a clue.
thechosen2010 1 year ago
@thechosen2010 Froch has beaten Pascal, Taylor and Dirrell. Of course he deserves to be on Benn and Eubanks level. Thinking about it that's far better opposition than Hamed ever beat. If he beats Abraham he will easily push Hamed back another place.
Haye was unified CW champ and is an unbeaten HW world champion, how could you possibly rank Hamed above him? Who did he beat? He faced one top oppnent and got his arse handed to him = fraud.
Another thick Khan fan
agt155 1 year ago
@agt155 Pascal, a good win. Froch got schooled by a shot Jermaine Taylor, comptetely outclassed. Taylor lost becuase of his shit stamina and because he didn't take a knee in the dying seconds of the fight. Jermaine Taylor beat Jermaine Taylor.
Froch barely beat Dirrell, as soon as Dirrell stopped running in the 6th round he boxed Froch's head off and was hurting Froch. Froch got a hometown decision. A rematch wouldn't even be close. Dirrell would look a class above Froch.
thechosen2010 1 year ago
@agt155 David Haye was unified in the weakest division in boxing, fucking Mormeck? Macarenelli? Haha, fuck off. And you say Naz fought bums. Haye is a title holder, not a champion, he's avoiding the two best in the division. Monte Barrett, who is he? Valuev, a big freak who if he was normal size would not be boxing professionally. Ruiz, old, and never spectacular.
Naz beat fighters who were/had been/ or went on to be world champions. And he had flair and power in abundance. He dominated.
thechosen2010 1 year ago
@thechosen2010 Who did Naz beat that were better than Taylor, Dirrell and Pascal?
Hamed will be remembered as a huge fraud. He got knocked down 3 times by a shot Kevin Kelly FFS. He looked good against bums, but shit himself against anyone who could fight back.
agt155 1 year ago
Again, who did Hamed beat that were better than Mormeck, Valuev and Ruiz?
What was Hamed's best victory?? Vuyani Bingo??
And If you like 'flair and power' why do you like Amir Khan?
agt155 1 year ago
Hamed is 10-1 against World Champions with 8 KOs. He came back strong to KO Kevin Kelley who went on to beat Humberto Soto and Carlos Hernandez. He has the win against Bingo as well as Tom Johnson who was widely regarded as the top featherweight for a few years before their fight.
Hamed wiped out the Featherweight division, he was fighting the guys on top of the division while guys like Marquez were fighting bums.
thechosen2010 1 year ago
@thechosen2010 The featherweight division was terrible until Barrera, Morales, and later Marquez, came along. Where was Hamed?
He had a chance to be a part of the greatest ever featherweight division and he chickened out. Marquez and Morales came back from big fight losses to then win big career defining fights, that is what makes them great.
agt155 1 year ago
Hamed got sloppy, he was earning millions and took his foot off the gas, cut corners in training which led to his downfall. Hamed beat all the top featherweights at the time. You could only criticise him for quitting when the likes of Marquez, Morales and Pacman came on the scene, it's not Hamed's fault they didn't step up earlier. And really if your judging him on resume get Calzaghe the fuck off the list, Kessler is his best win. Lacy was shit, RJJ was old. Calz fought bums in wales
thechosen2010 1 year ago
@thechosen2010 If Calzaghe had lost to Jeff Lacy then you could compare him to Hamed. He didn't though, and went on to beat the undefeated best of his division, moved up and beat a P4P legend and retired undefeated.
You can never say Hamed was great because he really didn't beat anyone of note. Calzaghe had Hopkins(p4p), Haye had Mormeck(p4p), Hatton had Tszyu(p4p), Lewis had Holyfield(p4p), Hamed had Barrera(p4p) but flunked.
agt155 1 year ago
@agt155 Holy shit! You are putting Jeff Lacy in the MAB bracket? Really? Mormeck p4p ranked? Are you having a fucking laugh? Are you new to boxing?
A prime ATG MAB beat a getting past it Naz by 3 points, hardly a shut out. A clear win but not a domination. Great fighters can lose. Naz beat every belt holder in his division to become unified champ his resume is littered with ranked contenders and world champions. Haye ducked Cunningham and Wlodarzyk, he didn't clean up the division. Naz did.
thechosen2010 1 year ago
@thechosen2010 errr...you said that not me.
The point is that Calzaghe won his big fight(s) brilliantly, where as Hamed lost his embarrassingly.
It would be a better comparison comparing Lacy to Hamed. Both unbeaten hype machines who got smashed to pieces by the first quality opponent they came up against, and neither recovered from it.
agt155 1 year ago
@agt155 But I still can't get over the fact you're saying Jeff Lacy holds up to ATG Barrera and that Mormeck was p4p ranked. Fucking hell, that would be hilarious if it wasn't so embarrassing.
thechosen2010 1 year ago
@thechosen2010 No YOU are saying that. The only thing hillarious is your lack of comprehension. Mormeck was around the top 10 after his victory over Bell. But of course you wouldn't know that.
agt155 1 year ago
@agt155 "Haye had Mormeck(p4p". Mormeck was no where near p4p ranked. I'm not disputing Calzaghe was better than Naz. But when you put Haye and Froch above Naz you are clearly a hater. Naz ruled the featherweight division whilst it wasn't a division brimming with superstars there were a lot of solid fighters, ranked contenders and world champions who Naz beat. He cleaned out the division by beating every belt holder. He was a champion for 6 years. You are a stubborn.
thechosen2010 1 year ago
Rees is a fucking bum. He someohow mustered a performance against M'Baye who's simply a B-Level fighter. Rees never deserved to be World Champion.
thechosen2010 1 year ago
gotta love gav popping the ref in the nose at 6:20
thanielthomas 2 years ago
gavin has one of the biggest hearts of any fighter the only reason he got stopped was because he was so tired if they ver fought again gavin would win
daveking777 2 years ago
@daveking777 If`s and maybe`s mate...Rees got stopped, end of...cop out saying he was tired...so was the other guy, but he was fitter...thats part of boxing...if they fought again it would be the same..he`s not good enough..he had 12 rounds and proved he was not good enough!!...it`s the same old story...Hatton etc...'oh if they fight again'!...well they had a 12 round fight here and he got fcking beat by a stronger, fitter, smarter fighter.....give credit where it is due... no debating it!
mairsy100 1 year ago
@mairsy100 fair comment mate !
daveking777 1 year ago
Biased commentators
Rees wasnt landing shit
tacoandbeer 2 years ago
yes he was
IrelandRaven 2 years ago
Well if he was then why wasnt it having any effect whatsoever on Kotelnik?
Rees is a B fighter
tacoandbeer 2 years ago
@tacoandbeer B level fighter? That's being generous. Take a look at his records and the records of those he fought before he beat M'Baye. Most of his opponents were bums with more losses than wins.
thechosen2010 1 year ago
@thechosen2010 so? he won the belt... what have you won.. apart from cock sucker of the year
LastWhiteRhino 1 year ago
@LastWhiteRhino you are the spunk your mother should have swallowed. Rees is a bum, get over it.
thechosen2010 1 year ago
@thechosen2010 thats sooo original.. your really not funny, dont give up your day job... cock sucker, for comedy will you. lol but he would whoop you, you pussy faggot, what does that make you....... ile tell you, A NOB!
LastWhiteRhino 1 year ago
@LastWhiteRhino Cheers pal.
thechosen2010 1 year ago
gd fight, i can see khan winning it tho. speed will win it
tarakkhandakar 2 years ago