Long jump progress is tough. The comments posted about 6.92 and 6.94 at age 15 are very good marks. At 15 I jumped 7.01. Just over 23 feet. Over the next 5 years of my life I only progressed to 7.50. Everyone thought I was the next Carl Lewis, but it never came. Then out of the blue the next year I progressed to 8.02 out of no where. Just over 26 feet. Then just as quickly as it came, I never jumped that far again. Long jump is funny like that! Now I am a has been!
@makalani28 im 15 and jump between 17 and 18 feet which is like 5.34 with no form and stutter stepping but im very athletic, my coach says if i find good form and goods teps and speed, he says that i will progress a ton my remaining high school years, is he correct?
Carl Lewis is the best jumper (track and field athlete as well) of all time. Both Powell and Beamon had only one moment of their lifetime to jump well while Carl Lewis had 16 years...! think about it...
I have to disagree with you, in saying that Powell's technique was better.Yes he had more height in the air and a better landing than Carl's, but overall Carl's technique was classier, more elegant, noble even! Carl was class personified! Atheletes either have it or they don't!!It's in the genes!Also don't you remember carl had probably the best coach in USA, his surname was Tevez!
I think you are confusing Carl's admirable elegance with actual technique. Carl's technique featured many absolute sins of jumping at any level: 1. he had a habit of looking down at the board, 2. he dropped his heels early is his landing, 3. he got his hands involved in the landing. I'm sorry, but you just don't seem to be knowledgeable about the actual technique and seem to be talking about his amazing presence on the runway, which I also love.
You obviously know alot about long jumping! Are you a long jumper or coach? Anyway, I still think Carl Lewis is the greatest Long Jumper of all time! If I recall in the 1991 World Championships Tokyo, Powell fouled most of his jumps and didn't look that impressive, he broke the world record on one lucky jump , when all things like wind, altitude, but also using all of his grit anger and determination on that one jump gave him the WR! Sometimes in life it happens! I respect and like Mike Powell
but to me Carl should have broke the world Record! I bet it haunts him to this day! It would have been more fitting and loved throughout the world If Carl Lewis had been WR holder! If you look under slow motion and compare the two, Carl's jumping is in no way technically inferior to Mike's, on the contrary it is Carl's which is the superior! Tellez was the finest track & Field coach in USA at that time! How can you possibly say that that Mike Powell was the better jumper??
Interesting. I never said Powell was the better jumper. I said Powell had better technique. I also never said Lewis was the better jumper; I said he was the "more consistently longer" jumper.
Who was the better jumper? Powell has the WR, better technique, and an inability to stay healthy. Lewis has the most jumps over 28', the longest winning streak, and rarely was injured.
I have watched the '91 jumps hundreds of times. Powell did not look good early on, however, there's really no such thing as a "lucky" jump at that level. He achieved what he trained to do. If you watch their technique, Powell's sequence gets better and better & you can see something amazing coming. As I said, I have a technical document breaking down the jumps. Powell's is ideal and Lewis's lacks an ideal takeoff trajectory. His is still flat, which is likely a function of his unreal speed.
I agree that Carl seemed the guy who would have broken the record on any given year. He just never did. There is the legend of the 30 foot jump, however. Do you know about that one? I suggest doing some research on it. It's fascinating, and to me complete possible.
One thing about the WR. Either guy could have set it that day, however, neither could have if the other was not present at the meet. They drove each other.
Yes, I've read in one of his books, legend has it, that he broke Beamon's record! in a meet, but never got recorded. I believe Carl has the third longest outdoor jump at 8.86!! If Im not mistaken. Strangely, Im not so intrigued with his duel with Powell but more so with Larry Myricks, Evangelista and co, other names which I can't remember. I suppose it's the fact that this footage is soo rare compared with Powell's in Tokyo! Do you know where I can get DVD's or videos of Carl in 1983-1988?
other than youtube, im not sure. you could write to the folks at track and field news and see what they think. i have some videos of old meets from the 80s, but i think everything i have has been posted (like the WCs with emmiyan, lewis, evangelista, myriks)
Thanks for the suggestions, I will check out your youtube videos! It's just a great shame, those 1980's footage are soo rare!! I just wish the Track & Field World Championships and Olympics federations / Television Companies published archive Dvd's! Not just a general highlights, but each individual event from first round - Finals, i think theres really a market out there! Id like to comment on Myricks but seen very very little of him.
That was no legend. The jump was definitely in excess of 30', but the jump was incorrectly ruled a foul by the judge at the event, and the pit was raked before any attempt at clarifying the situation could be enacted. The jump was no legend...it was real.
I was a fan of Myricks. Myricks and Lewis had some great battles, too, and no love was lost between them. Actually, Myricks had masterful technique, too -- I really enjoyed his landing. It got everything out of the jump. He got everything out of his physical abilities.
In the 80s other jumpers were emmiyan (probably my favorite, along with lewis), evangelista, conley. leitner and honey were always around but never could hang with the big boys. rivalries? i gotta think back on that...
There's no reason to dismiss Powell's technique. You might admire Lewis and his achievements (we all should), however, the reality is that Powell was simply a master of the event at every phase. Powell now runs a LJ camp that is supposed to be fantastic. And, in the end, there's a pretty good reason he's the WR holder.
Lewis always had a terrible, terrible landing -- some of which you see in this video. He never got the idea of being "completely greedy" on the landing and sacrificing everything so that his butt cleared right by his heels, and his heels landed at the absolute last possible moment.
Had he *ever* learned to land, many (most) of his jumps over 28'6" would have been WR contenders.
You have a point, but that doesn't change the fact, that he the greatest Long Jumper of all time!! Anyway he still holds the indoor WR at 8.79! Mike Powell may well hold the WR but he was never in the same league as Carl in technique, grace, beauty, and that elusive magic aura! Carl won every long jump in the World Championships and Olympics since 1983-1996 (1991 exempt) a record Mike never achieved! Carl is a legend!
Well, to be clear, I am in no way denying that Lewis is the most consistently long long jumper of all time. It's really not even close. He has jumped longer more times than anyone, bar none.
However, I disagree with you in comparing Powell's and Lewis's technique. Powell's technique was actually better. He executed on various phases better, notably the penultimate step and the landing. If Powell had Lewis's physical attributes *and* ability to stay healthy, he would have been a 30-foot jumper.
Carl Lewis Long Jumping to my eyes and many Track & Field coaches throughout the world, is the standard to which others must follow! It's the ultimate in excellence!!
Carl brought an element of speed to LJ that has't otherwise existed. If he had ever been a specialist in the event, he might have developed some of the nuanced parts of the jump that his competitors had the advantage of honing. They, however, never had anything like his speed. I have a document breaking their jumps down the day Powell took the WR: speed, angle at takeoff, etc. It's pretty fascinating
Lewis might have been too fast for the event, and that's why his technique broke down.
who want to see the best 15 years old long jumper ho is number (1) in the ranglist this year? So look trajkovski1993 and you will se his jumps.7.00m 23'0 ft have he jump this years! Please give a comment to him :D
Gracias por el apunte. Es cierto, Lewis empezó a competir con el 3 y medio en la pista cubierta de 1979 y con la camiseta de la Universidad de Houston. En la imagen se le ve con la camiseta de su Bachillerato en Willingboro, así que el salto es de 1978 o antes. Un saludo de uno que vio en directo (por la tele) tu primer 8.56.
Well all of yall keep up the good work..
morrieturner 1 year ago
Long jump progress is tough. The comments posted about 6.92 and 6.94 at age 15 are very good marks. At 15 I jumped 7.01. Just over 23 feet. Over the next 5 years of my life I only progressed to 7.50. Everyone thought I was the next Carl Lewis, but it never came. Then out of the blue the next year I progressed to 8.02 out of no where. Just over 26 feet. Then just as quickly as it came, I never jumped that far again. Long jump is funny like that! Now I am a has been!
makalani28 2 years ago
@makalani28 You must be like Sebastion Bayer then...
Axis98 1 year ago
@makalani28 im 15 and jump between 17 and 18 feet which is like 5.34 with no form and stutter stepping but im very athletic, my coach says if i find good form and goods teps and speed, he says that i will progress a ton my remaining high school years, is he correct?
MrMaximilianWilhelm 1 year ago
i jumped 6.38 yesterday
in 2010 i will jump longer than you
eletkricar 2 years ago
My son was born 2 weeks ago and jumps 23'.... is that good?
steveoo6o 2 years ago
@steveoo6o Very very nice.
Axis98 1 year ago
born 5.12.1995.g. jumps 25.1.2009 - 6.10 long jump
talent?
eletkricar 2 years ago
may be! if I was 15 I jumped 6,26m!
I am 24 years old and my best is 7,09m!
matthiasprenzlau 2 years ago
you are poor!
eletkricar 2 years ago
richer than you!
matthiasprenzlau 2 years ago
Don't know, but i'm 15 and check my long jump clip
FlyingMarsmallow 2 years ago
how long did carl lewis jump when he was 16?or younger?
eletkricar 3 years ago
Carl Lewis is the best jumper (track and field athlete as well) of all time. Both Powell and Beamon had only one moment of their lifetime to jump well while Carl Lewis had 16 years...! think about it...
adryanerock 3 years ago
how long did carl lewis jump when he was 16?
trajkovski1993 3 years ago
with 15 he jump 6.92m
marci152 2 years ago
The record from Uruguay at 15 years is from Juan Manuel Moltedo 6.94m, he then became a basketball player.
pablouru87 2 years ago
Here in the netherlands there was a boy who jumped 6,92m at age of 14. But he isnt making much progress now
GluteusKingMaximus 2 years ago
I have to disagree with you, in saying that Powell's technique was better.Yes he had more height in the air and a better landing than Carl's, but overall Carl's technique was classier, more elegant, noble even! Carl was class personified! Atheletes either have it or they don't!!It's in the genes!Also don't you remember carl had probably the best coach in USA, his surname was Tevez!
Sssccirea7 3 years ago
Carl's coach's name was Tellez, not Tevez.
I think you are confusing Carl's admirable elegance with actual technique. Carl's technique featured many absolute sins of jumping at any level: 1. he had a habit of looking down at the board, 2. he dropped his heels early is his landing, 3. he got his hands involved in the landing. I'm sorry, but you just don't seem to be knowledgeable about the actual technique and seem to be talking about his amazing presence on the runway, which I also love.
decadyne 3 years ago
You obviously know alot about long jumping! Are you a long jumper or coach? Anyway, I still think Carl Lewis is the greatest Long Jumper of all time! If I recall in the 1991 World Championships Tokyo, Powell fouled most of his jumps and didn't look that impressive, he broke the world record on one lucky jump , when all things like wind, altitude, but also using all of his grit anger and determination on that one jump gave him the WR! Sometimes in life it happens! I respect and like Mike Powell
Sssccirea7 3 years ago
but to me Carl should have broke the world Record! I bet it haunts him to this day! It would have been more fitting and loved throughout the world If Carl Lewis had been WR holder! If you look under slow motion and compare the two, Carl's jumping is in no way technically inferior to Mike's, on the contrary it is Carl's which is the superior! Tellez was the finest track & Field coach in USA at that time! How can you possibly say that that Mike Powell was the better jumper??
Sssccirea7 3 years ago
Interesting. I never said Powell was the better jumper. I said Powell had better technique. I also never said Lewis was the better jumper; I said he was the "more consistently longer" jumper.
Who was the better jumper? Powell has the WR, better technique, and an inability to stay healthy. Lewis has the most jumps over 28', the longest winning streak, and rarely was injured.
Better? Tough to say.
Lewis: most dominant
Powell: longest ever
decadyne 3 years ago
I have watched the '91 jumps hundreds of times. Powell did not look good early on, however, there's really no such thing as a "lucky" jump at that level. He achieved what he trained to do. If you watch their technique, Powell's sequence gets better and better & you can see something amazing coming. As I said, I have a technical document breaking down the jumps. Powell's is ideal and Lewis's lacks an ideal takeoff trajectory. His is still flat, which is likely a function of his unreal speed.
decadyne 3 years ago
I agree that Carl seemed the guy who would have broken the record on any given year. He just never did. There is the legend of the 30 foot jump, however. Do you know about that one? I suggest doing some research on it. It's fascinating, and to me complete possible.
One thing about the WR. Either guy could have set it that day, however, neither could have if the other was not present at the meet. They drove each other.
decadyne 3 years ago
Yes, I've read in one of his books, legend has it, that he broke Beamon's record! in a meet, but never got recorded. I believe Carl has the third longest outdoor jump at 8.86!! If Im not mistaken. Strangely, Im not so intrigued with his duel with Powell but more so with Larry Myricks, Evangelista and co, other names which I can't remember. I suppose it's the fact that this footage is soo rare compared with Powell's in Tokyo! Do you know where I can get DVD's or videos of Carl in 1983-1988?
Sssccirea7 3 years ago
other than youtube, im not sure. you could write to the folks at track and field news and see what they think. i have some videos of old meets from the 80s, but i think everything i have has been posted (like the WCs with emmiyan, lewis, evangelista, myriks)
decadyne 3 years ago
Thanks for the suggestions, I will check out your youtube videos! It's just a great shame, those 1980's footage are soo rare!! I just wish the Track & Field World Championships and Olympics federations / Television Companies published archive Dvd's! Not just a general highlights, but each individual event from first round - Finals, i think theres really a market out there! Id like to comment on Myricks but seen very very little of him.
Sssccirea7 3 years ago
That was no legend. The jump was definitely in excess of 30', but the jump was incorrectly ruled a foul by the judge at the event, and the pit was raked before any attempt at clarifying the situation could be enacted. The jump was no legend...it was real.
JAVMAN83 3 years ago
What did you think of Larry Myricks as a long jumper? Can you rememember the names of his other rivals between 1983-1988?
Sssccirea7 3 years ago
I was a fan of Myricks. Myricks and Lewis had some great battles, too, and no love was lost between them. Actually, Myricks had masterful technique, too -- I really enjoyed his landing. It got everything out of the jump. He got everything out of his physical abilities.
In the 80s other jumpers were emmiyan (probably my favorite, along with lewis), evangelista, conley. leitner and honey were always around but never could hang with the big boys. rivalries? i gotta think back on that...
decadyne 3 years ago
Respectfully:
1. Technique is not "class".
2. Class is not elegance.
3. Elegance is not nobility.
4. Nobility is not technique.
There's no reason to dismiss Powell's technique. You might admire Lewis and his achievements (we all should), however, the reality is that Powell was simply a master of the event at every phase. Powell now runs a LJ camp that is supposed to be fantastic. And, in the end, there's a pretty good reason he's the WR holder.
decadyne 3 years ago
Lewis always had a terrible, terrible landing -- some of which you see in this video. He never got the idea of being "completely greedy" on the landing and sacrificing everything so that his butt cleared right by his heels, and his heels landed at the absolute last possible moment.
Had he *ever* learned to land, many (most) of his jumps over 28'6" would have been WR contenders.
Alas.
decadyne 3 years ago
You have a point, but that doesn't change the fact, that he the greatest Long Jumper of all time!! Anyway he still holds the indoor WR at 8.79! Mike Powell may well hold the WR but he was never in the same league as Carl in technique, grace, beauty, and that elusive magic aura! Carl won every long jump in the World Championships and Olympics since 1983-1996 (1991 exempt) a record Mike never achieved! Carl is a legend!
Sssccirea7 3 years ago
Well, to be clear, I am in no way denying that Lewis is the most consistently long long jumper of all time. It's really not even close. He has jumped longer more times than anyone, bar none.
However, I disagree with you in comparing Powell's and Lewis's technique. Powell's technique was actually better. He executed on various phases better, notably the penultimate step and the landing. If Powell had Lewis's physical attributes *and* ability to stay healthy, he would have been a 30-foot jumper.
decadyne 3 years ago
Carl Lewis Long Jumping to my eyes and many Track & Field coaches throughout the world, is the standard to which others must follow! It's the ultimate in excellence!!
Sssccirea7 3 years ago
Carl brought an element of speed to LJ that has't otherwise existed. If he had ever been a specialist in the event, he might have developed some of the nuanced parts of the jump that his competitors had the advantage of honing. They, however, never had anything like his speed. I have a document breaking their jumps down the day Powell took the WR: speed, angle at takeoff, etc. It's pretty fascinating
Lewis might have been too fast for the event, and that's why his technique broke down.
decadyne 3 years ago
who want to see the best 15 years old long jumper ho is number (1) in the ranglist this year? So look trajkovski1993 and you will se his jumps.7.00m 23'0 ft have he jump this years! Please give a comment to him :D
trajkovski1993 3 years ago
...y por lo que parece, también batía con el otro pie (izquierdo)... y posteriormente cambió al derecho!
dimasnko 3 years ago
how far this jump could be?
Thund3rxD 3 years ago
Back then he was 17 years of age. His personal best was 8.13m or 26-8. So no longer than that.
rendlaW 3 years ago
pretty good ;)
Thund3rxD 3 years ago
Gracias por el apunte. Es cierto, Lewis empezó a competir con el 3 y medio en la pista cubierta de 1979 y con la camiseta de la Universidad de Houston. En la imagen se le ve con la camiseta de su Bachillerato en Willingboro, así que el salto es de 1978 o antes. Un saludo de uno que vio en directo (por la tele) tu primer 8.56.
ColectivoDMSR 3 years ago
Ese salto es de 197x , en 1980 ya hacia tres pasos y medio en el aire
BestiaDeAviles 3 years ago