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  • Bravo Finocchio! 

  • Boring

  • this guy doesn't look like a guitar player.

  • good job finocchio.

  • I was tought that melodic minor is played with natural 6 and 7 on the way down. Do they teach differently now?

  • In the classical application this is true. Ascending is Melodic Minor and descending is natural minor. Withe the Jazz or Improvisation you would leave it Melodic both Ascending and Descending, this way the tones will stay the same over the chord sound. otherwise you will have a conflict.

  • This one is generally called Jazz Melodic Minor. In this the 6th and 7th scale degrees always stay natural.

  • The mel. minor scale came about many years ago because the singers at the time found the alternatives to difficult to sing, so they made the mel. minor.i think the key is in your ability to create tension and release at appropriate moments in a composition. For me this is learned by training your ear / mind manage intervalic relationships .. if you can understand what your mediant , sub mediant etc do within a composition both harm/melodic then scales become academic in my opinion.

  • There are modes of the Melodic Minor Scale. They are all one note different from regular modes, since the melodic minor is Dorian Maj 7. Melodic Minor is considered a jazz scale because of it's 7th mode, which is also called the ALTERED scale. THis is used over altered 7th chords or whenever a dominant 7th is going to tonic (Tritone substitution). Just remember, never play the natural fifth when playing Dominant 7th chords unless you want to get yelled at by good jazz players! 1-3-7 all day!

  • One of my teachers at Ithaca College referred to them "the modes of the ascending melodic minor scale". Calling that family of scales "jazz" is a bit misleading. Get a copy of the Nicolas Slonimsky Thesaurus of Scales and Melodic Patterns if you can find it. That family of scales is there plus a whole lot more!

  • Its all in the rhythm.

  • In a Jazz context, that scale is better tought as C Jazz Minor because of it's more common Modes:

    They are :

    Jazz Minor

    Dorian b2

    Lydian #5

    Lydian b7

    Mixo b6

    Locrian #2

    Altered

    DDR

  • Its called melodic minor. it has nothing to do with jazz. its just a scale

  • No, he's right. Although I personally don't concern myself with all of that tom-foolery. I play lines, not scales/modes.

  • before jazz was created, that scale was still around. and it was not called jazz minor, sorry boss.

  • True, but you know what he meant, boss. It's most prevalent in jazz, call what you want. He also said "in a Jazz context". He was trying to be helpful and informative

  • Ur right, it did exist. However, if you study classical music, the scale ascends the way he describes & descends natural minor. The reason the name "jazz minor" was adopted was because alot of jazz musicians use those series of notes up and down.

  • ur funny

  • This scale did exist, but in terms of theory it's called jazz minor because when used in a classical sense it's different when ascending than descending.

  • what i am trying to say is before jazz was invented, the same scale was around, and it was not called that because there was no jazz

  • Well yeah, obviously. There were bananas before they were called bananas but to criticize someone for that would be fruitless (lol get it!?!?!?!).

  • not for bach

  • Actually it's called Bachian scale originally, because bach decided to try to calm harmonic minor down by sharpening 6 to #6 aswell, avoiding the min3 interval, forming a totally different tonality.

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