At 5:00 the Andante Moderato begins, one of the greatest Mahler ever wrote. I very much prefer Abbado's (and Mahler's?) sequence of movements to the "traditional" one. This meditative, wistful, passionate slow movement is exactly what is needed after the tormented first.
Dear God, I just bursted into tears at 04:43... The size of it. The fully functional proportions, it simply edges the perception and overcomes it, and yet it is so profoundly homogenous and keeps you awake with your mouth open, not believing. It‘s a torture of the mind, a combination of both foreplay and waiting for an execution - you know the outcome, but the time span is too intense too bear. What did I just say anyway...
But that's wrong! Mahler told Mengelberg that the order should've been allegro-scherzo-andante-finale (Though Mahler himslef, switched the two middle movements at the premiere and at the second performance of the work)...however I love this symphony :) thanks for posting!
I think that's the essence of Mahler's symphonies.........the melody lines go on and on, there are any number of themes introduced and developed It's like you get a snapshot of the universe. Mahler rewards you the more you listen to him. His music is inexhuastible.
Bravo, Claudio. One of his best Mahler performances ever. And I'm not one of his strongest fans. But the life streaming in this music is extraordinary.
Yet I would prefer the Scherzo as second mov, then Andante...
The order of the movements as composed, was Scherzo followed by Andante. It was only played this way at the rehersal. At the premier, Mahler changed the order to Andante, followed by the Scherzo. He instructed his publisher to do the same and he, himself, NEVER conducted it any other way.
In my opinion it is a very questionable decision to play the slow movement as the second.
The symphony needs the contrast between the scherzo and the finale, furthermore, the scherzo is closely connected with the first movement.
Mahler himself has indeed changed the order at one stage but eventually returned to Allegro, Scherzo, Andante, Finale - to its advantage, from my point of view.
how strange this symphony is. i think i still don't understand this enven i listen it 100 times. however, there seems something magical that attracts me to listen to it for the 101th, 102th times,.....until the end of my life.
@svenson03 Actually Mahler kept changing the order. There is debate as to which order is correct, but I prefer this one as it separates the first movement from the Scherzo (there is not much contrast between them).
At 5:00 the Andante Moderato begins, one of the greatest Mahler ever wrote. I very much prefer Abbado's (and Mahler's?) sequence of movements to the "traditional" one. This meditative, wistful, passionate slow movement is exactly what is needed after the tormented first.
FreeMySoles 2 months ago
Dear God, I just bursted into tears at 04:43... The size of it. The fully functional proportions, it simply edges the perception and overcomes it, and yet it is so profoundly homogenous and keeps you awake with your mouth open, not believing. It‘s a torture of the mind, a combination of both foreplay and waiting for an execution - you know the outcome, but the time span is too intense too bear. What did I just say anyway...
Miganiya 7 months ago
But that's wrong! Mahler told Mengelberg that the order should've been allegro-scherzo-andante-finale (Though Mahler himslef, switched the two middle movements at the premiere and at the second performance of the work)...however I love this symphony :) thanks for posting!
capiem 8 months ago
III. Andante moderato :: 5:11
gramirez72 8 months ago
@gramirez72 Thank you very much!
chocotastic 6 months ago
@chocotastic You're welcome. :)
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SPACC00 9 months ago
gran mùsica! gran orquesta! gran trabajo del director sobretodo en el sonido de los metales y maderas. gracias por el video.
faemdia 1 year ago
how beautifully refreshing to not hear the audience erupt in a coughing fit between movements.
cardinalssaints 1 year ago 2
4:30.. Jesus Christ that's amazing.
3948394839483 1 year ago
Alessio Allegrini sounds amazing on his solo. :-D Cant wait to study with him!, thats if I get into RAM. :-)
1337evan 1 year ago
I think that's the essence of Mahler's symphonies.........the melody lines go on and on, there are any number of themes introduced and developed It's like you get a snapshot of the universe. Mahler rewards you the more you listen to him. His music is inexhuastible.
shibopshibop 1 year ago
Bravo, Claudio. One of his best Mahler performances ever. And I'm not one of his strongest fans. But the life streaming in this music is extraordinary.
Yet I would prefer the Scherzo as second mov, then Andante...
marcap1000 1 year ago
The order of the movements as composed, was Scherzo followed by Andante. It was only played this way at the rehersal. At the premier, Mahler changed the order to Andante, followed by the Scherzo. He instructed his publisher to do the same and he, himself, NEVER conducted it any other way.
jgesselberty 1 year ago
What a hall! Listen to the climax at 4:30!
Redwizard918 2 years ago 5
In my opinion it is a very questionable decision to play the slow movement as the second.
The symphony needs the contrast between the scherzo and the finale, furthermore, the scherzo is closely connected with the first movement.
Mahler himself has indeed changed the order at one stage but eventually returned to Allegro, Scherzo, Andante, Finale - to its advantage, from my point of view.
cowtrade 2 years ago
04.30!!!!!! incredible!
seefuchs6 2 years ago
how strange this symphony is. i think i still don't understand this enven i listen it 100 times. however, there seems something magical that attracts me to listen to it for the 101th, 102th times,.....until the end of my life.
MAMAZKIAN 2 years ago 19
Thank you! I admire people who can feel music as deep as you seem to do and believe there's something behind it.
KillNoPsych 2 years ago 6
2nd movement (Adagio) starts 5:20. Abbado doesn't take the traditional sequence of movements, I think Mahler himself changed between 2nd and 3rd mvt.
svenson03 2 years ago 2
Thanks for that!
KillNoPsych 2 years ago
@svenson03 Actually Mahler kept changing the order. There is debate as to which order is correct, but I prefer this one as it separates the first movement from the Scherzo (there is not much contrast between them).
Enanram 7 months ago 2