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  • Great orchestra--they play with passion and fire--American orchestras could learn from them.

  • passionate, stormy performace of a masterwork. good recording of the hall.

  • DISRESPECTING EACH OTHER WAS THE LAST THING I EXPECTED TO SEE IN CLASSICAL SECTION , THIS MUSIC IS ONLY FOR PEOPLE WHO KNOWS THE BEST AND THOSE PEOPLE NEVER DIS RESPECT MAY NOT AGREE BUT NOT CALLING PEOPLE IDIOTS..........

  • To those tosspots who think that Asians are incapable of performing European music, may I suggest that they type "Bach St John Passion Suzuki" into Google.

    I rest my case.

  • This Symphony, No 7 is the real masterpiece of all his symphonies. It's tautly constructed, and does not suffer from Dvorak's main weakness, sentimentalism.

  • @eastwood1941 well done for reading dvorak's wiki page! those who criticize dvorak for sentimentalism don't deserve to hear his music. it's intellectual snobs like yourself (who very often just wish to aggrandize themselves due to a congenital inferiority complex) that give classical music it's reputation for elitism. cock for brains.

  • Sizzlinsausage, thanks for your kind words. As a matter of interest, I've never read Dvorak's Wiki page, nor do I wish to "aggrandise myself".

    My comment on Dvorak's 7th comes from years of listening to his music and becoming familiar with his style and method. I believe Dvorak to be among the very greatest of composers, the equal of Brahms. But, like Brahms, he has a tendency to sentimentality, which is a late 19th century trait. In neither composer does this detract from his greatness.

  • @eastwood1941 D. has plenty of sentiment but is rarely sentimental. certainly not in this taut work. Brahms sentimental?! No.

  • @eastwood1941 I don't believe you are using the right word--folksy, yes--if that is considered a weakness, give us more of it!!

  • @eastwood1941 D. is not really sentimental as he is full of sentiment. There's a difference. And if its a weakness let more modern composers catch the 'bug'.

  • wow, even this video has ignorant racists posting on it.

  • I LOVE THIS SYMPHONY! it's wonderful! I love ALL Dvorak symphonies, plus everything else he ever composed!

  • I love Dvorak

  • This is not only Dvorak's greatest symphony, it was the greatest symphony of its time; in my opinion it is better than any of the four Brahms symphonies and I happen to love Brahms.

    it's truly a shame it's not played and appreciated more and this is a great performance.

  • @SatchmoSings It is played often--check the symphony schedules.

  • @windstorm1000 Well, within this context I would think that the "New World Symphony" is played more and it should be the other 'way round; this is a much, much better work.

  • @SatchmoSings Agreed. The New World has more singable tunes and hence its greater popularity if not overall greatness.

  • i mean if you really want to argue the whole asian thing, then i'm just gonna throw this out there.. asian people can't sing oprah >.>

    gg'd

  • @grungecollectorSCE I think you're completely mistaken. There are many great asian opera singers out there and they are extremely talented. I know plenty, like one who were excepted on the spot on her audition by 10 universities known for their music program. Whether they're asian are not does not determine their ability to sing, that's just ignorant. Arguing that they were born that way is invalid, you think any of us were born naturally singing opera? No, you learn. And it's opera, not oprah.

  • @KagamineLenX3 lolololololz... i was just trolling.. i've played this symphony before, i just wanted to give a terrifying response to all these people arguing about ethnicities in art.. and i'll leave it at that.. i know it's opera lmao.. i was trolling, hence the "gg'd"

  • @grungecollectorSCE Oh, sorry ^-^;; I can't tell when people do these things @.@ I also miss sarcasm on the internet... I'm also not familiar with a lot of internet abbreviations, the only thing I could come up with for gg was good game or good job (although, I don't quite understand why they use gg over gj) and neither of them sounded fitting :S Hahaha...derp.

  • @KagamineLenX3 yah it's good game xD i do my best to refrain from using internet terms but gg is more of a gaming term.. :P

  • @grungecollectorSCE Wait, so is "gg'd" like "good gamed"? ._. So confused xD

  • @KagamineLenX3 yah, think of it like getting own'd xP

  • Enjoy it. Great classical music knows no nationality. This is probably Dvorak's best symphony as far as pure music goes. The New World has the big familiar tunes and is played more, but it strays into oily territory too much for my taste. Well played by a little known orchestra and conductor.

  • @1brewski2 I'm curious to know what you mean by "oily territory".

  • Anyway I love Dvoraks music every day more and more..

  • hey wanna know why the majority of these musicians are asian? because it's the HONG KONG SYMPHONY. god people are idiots.

  • hey, wanna know why the majority of these musicians are asain? because it's the HONG KONG SYMPHONY. god people are idiots.

  • For whoever made that comment on African American's not being able to understand this music. That's an ignorant comment since the New world symphony was based on negro spirituals.

  • This symphony is so kick ass.

  • It is quite fair, bc some culture belong to some races...some time jst like asian always say that "most xxxx ppl dont perform kung fu well..even they learn hard." But at least u hav to show ur point. like "i think bc they cant play kung fu smooth enough". But also some really outstanding ppl who ar telented with other cultures things as we kne.... 1 more example, how many of u ever saw a westen ppl who talented with chinese instrument? ..hehe...my point is, pls take it saperately all the time

  • As the Irish monks saved Western civilization during the Dark Ages, so now are the Oriental and Asiatic peoples preserving classical music for generations yet unborn. (That's my take, anyway.)

  • @CLASSICALFAN100 Somebodys gotta do it, right? 

  • @CLASSICALFAN100 Absolutely right. Western classical music is very highly regarded in Asia, particularly Japan and China, far more so in fact than in many western societies. These ridiculous and insulting comments by ignorant pesants about who and who can't play this type of music has no place here.

  • @TheVaughan5 Agreed. I compared this post w the Prague one, & this orchestra is indescribably richer. Of course, everything also depends on the conductor, doesn't it. But these musicians r ready & willing--they r on par w Berlin, etc. Euro. music doens't have to be in their genes (so to speak)--they learn it. & classical orchestras have been around Asia for years--perf.s/audiences have gotten used to it. Now, if Am.syms could do Asian music--and WELL--THAT would be reciprocal!!

  • @CLASSICALFAN100 whatever it takes!! atleast it will be played--and well. Good music crosses ethnic boundaries!!!!

  • That guys viola at 8:36 is soooooo cool!

  • i love watching (among others) the guy in the first violins, last stand outside, he is so involved, his face reflecting the moods of the piece, seriously into what he's doing. must be fun to play next to him.....

    Love the sound of the oboe too....

  • I haven't read any of the racist comments, but whoever says Asians can't play Classical music, should look up Eiji Oue.

  • I think this symphony is every bit as great as his ninth (which is also great, obviously), only that this symphony is not usually as well known or often played.

  • Back in the late 60's I had an LP of this symphony that was MARVELOUS. However, I have forgotten the label (may have been a Mercury Living Presence), conductor, and orchestra. All I remember is that the horn part was pplayed by the flugelhorn. Did anyone out there have this recording or recognize it from my description? If you know the one I am talking about and can supply the missing information, you will have my undying gratitude.

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  • Honestly one of my favorites in all classical music. I don't know why. I could be because of all the "emotion" in it. Only if some people could understand music doesn't need to have cursing to sound emotional. Beautifully played, by the way. Somewhat small orchestra, but their sound is big and great.

  • @scottwlk88

    Idiot, if you do not have anything better to say you should shut up! Probably you are lacking dimension in your instrument that's why you are so concerned about it and, yes, she plays the flute but not the piccolo.

  • @quinmahler ...bender.

  • -demaKay-

    I agree,

    but it also is their free-will to like or dislike any performance and they shudnt be punished for stating their opinion.

    You are never forced to agree with their statements. So no offense please.

  • True. I was almost outraged at you thinking you meant something else... I thought you were condoning racism, and I almost vehemently responded... Good thing I caught what you were saying...

  • @pyreshadow hell no - funny enough I am German, but condoning racism was the last thing I thought about while writing that comment. ;)

    Free Tibet!

  • I bet if all you "Asians and Africans aren't able to play European classical music"-idiots would hear the Audiotrack without the video, you wouldn't critizise anything.

    This is a well done performance. If you don't like it that has nothing to do with the fact most of the instrumentalists are asian.

    If someone grows up with this music, he will be able to understand and interprete it no matter if its "his own culture's music".

    Music has nothing to do with genes.

    That's annoying...

  • amen

  • I do appreciate your comment. I remember attending an international singing competition my mother sat on the jury of, back in the '80s, in Italy.

    The opera house that hosted the event had initially planned to hand out five prizes - they hastily created a sixth in order to be able to give one to an Italian candidate. All other prizes were awarded to Korean and Japanese singers.

    And most members of that jury were Italians.

  • @demaKay preach it :D

  • @demaKay I couldn't have said it better. You took the words right out of my mouth! Thank you! :)

  • @demaKay i pretty much agree but its true that someone is more likely to associate with a piece that has been interpreted by someone of the same culture

  • @demaKay Well of course they are all going to be Asian.  It's in Hong Kong.

  • @demaKay Thats funny but true! We had a mostly african symphony orchestra at my school. We weren't half bad at all!

  • @dieudonneMC I'm happy for your mostly black orchestra, but why should being good strike you as strange? Skin color has nothing to do with ability---OPPORTUNITY to learn and get accomplished is another--but that depends on a lot of different factors. Look what Dudomel did with the Venezualan Youth Orchestra (one of the tops in the world)--many of these superb musicians--kids really-- were brought up in slums but were offered OPPORTUNITY to learn--and soared--obviously.

  • @demaKay You are an idiot, and retrograde men. The best eoropean musicians aren´t european....hahaha

    Estupid man.

  • @naujnauj1 ever heard of the London Symphony?

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  • @demaKay well there can possibly be a huge talent from genes.. u could check it even with Dvorak and his grandson Suk. so I personally believe its 25% of talent 75% of everyday hardwork

  • @kokoslav So you want to say 25% of my comprehension of classical music is only because Beethoven's grandfather is maybe related to me? I'm not talking about technical skills, but about the ability to understand and interprete the music.

  • @demaKay nope i just say there might be some influece by genes..and there is bigger chanceto get to higher level and u are able to develop it better than someone with no musical genes.. thats my opinion how it might work.. i dont want to argue, im just a musicaly uneducated man :)

  • @kokoslav it has absolutely nothing to do with genes. talent is the result of hardwork. obviously if you are brought up early on music in a musical family and they instruct u to play music before u r coneived, u might have more "talent" than another. taste and appreciation depend on the individual. i am a musician because i choose to be, not bc im a descendent wolfgangwagnerbeethovendebussy­tchaik pdq bach. (suk was a pupil of dvorak, and married into the family)

  • @celofelo How do you know that? Suk, the violin player who recently died was Dvoraks grand-grandson so u should maybe mind genes . As u said Suk pup. who married into familly..It means had a child with Dvoraks daughter.. is it genetic then right? At least there is some pre-talent. I know in familly of my friend they have high probability of being deaf.. so genetics really involve music in some way, but I honestly think the same as u that its so much about a hardwork and the way u r brought up..

  • @celofelo So I wouldnt say : absolutely nothing to do with genes, Are u biologist? Have u tested it? There are more clues that shows us it can be genetic. Like in any other field which is closely connected with our body and brain, there might be clearly some predisposition :) But If u show me how did u manage to get this conclusion I might change opinion or my other question :)

  • @demaKay What s dumbass - has he never heard about the NHK Orchestra wich is among the top 20 orchestras in the world thanks to great european master conductors like Rosenstock,Schüchter,Keilberth­, von Matacic,Sawallisch,Suitner,Hor­st Stein,Dutoit,Ashkenazy,Previn and a long etc? And think about it: the chinese have surpassed the US in the financial world; where there is money there is good quality! Its as simple as that!

  • @callasnuts and I´m referring to the NHK Tokyo wich still is the leading asian band,now seconded by multiple other asian bands

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  • @demaKay Not only are most musicians Asians, most people are Asian. Might as well embrace them.

  • @demaKay Music must have a lot to do with genes, for after all the local NPR Jazz radio station in my community REFUSED to play jazz performed by white people because, after all, "It's Not Their Music."

    If a buncha filthy, Commie liberals can make this claim, it obviously has validity.

  • dvorak es el papa de todos....obra espectacular...desde barranquilla colombia

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  • @intelectus1 YES YES YES.

  • It's just about the beginning, wich is A-some....the rest is background music...

  • I think the beginning is faster than the other ones I have heard...

    Anyway, Great Job!

  • Well it seems that some orchestras still put technical perfection before all matters of interpretation - I was bored after about 4 mins, and how is that even possible with music of this passion? Come on guys, wake up to what music is really all about.

  • hey-I am 1rst vio in yogfw too!!!!

    (hope Simmons)

  • it starts out a little rough, but it gets better.

    and ends awesomely

  • respect your opinion, but of the 9 Dvorak symphonies, no. 9, from the new world, is to my opinion by far the greatest, that second movement is one of the few pieces of music that makes me pour a tear every time I listen to it! Greetings

  • beethomozart--

    Dvorak's Seventh Symphony is his true masterpiece in this format

    Dvorak eschews all the folk melodies and gets as "down and dirty" as Brahms can and he does it BETTER than Brahms!

    Hence, a lot of wags calling this "The Brahms FIFTH" and so very deservedly so!

  • It is true that when Dvorak brought the finished score to the publisher he stated that there wasn't a single imperfect note in the symphony (paraphrased).

  • 9031879134--

    Thank you; very, very well put.

  • @beethomozart probably pouring a tear to music is not a very sound standard outside your self.

  • @beethomozart

    My favorite are symphonies 7, 6, and 8 (in that order). 9 is still amazing IMO though, everything Dvorak wrote was amazing!

  • Anton Dvorak tried in this symphony (1885), to create an abstract work, getting distance from previous works in which the nationalistic vein always fluorished, and he made a good job at this task

  • beethomozart,

    He made a "good job at this task?"

    THIS IS THE GREATEST SYMPHONY OF ITS TIME!!

    Indeed, one of the greatest things about is that it's called "The Brahms FIFTH!"

  • wow our orchestra's gonna play this?

    (YOGFW)

  • Yepyep

    hello fellow YOGFW student... I guess everybody is listening to this haha

    may I ask which instrument you play? maybe we know each other.. probably not, but still.

  • i'm first violin...=)

    But u probably dont know me tho, i'm knew haha.

    i was in JYO last year.

  • Hey cool! I am in yogfw too!

    ( hope Simmons-6th chair 1rst vio)

    I am nervous abut chair test tomorrow!!!!!!!!!!

  • check out bernstein's conducting Mahler SYM 2 Resurrestion. Now, that is how to conduct a sympony and chorus. OMG.

  • when the concertmaster conducts more than the conductor, there is a problem. this conductor is terrible.

    what a butchering of one of dvorak's greats. with all modesty, this really is a shame.

  • Definitely this is my favorite symphony. For me there is none in the world compare to it.

  • I'm a Viola player.

    The Fulte player is very beautiful,isn't it?

    I'll play this symphonies in May 3and4 in Japan.

    But,this is very difficult. Because,I'm a beginner in(?) Viola.

    I'm a student in University Yamaguchi.

  • AWESOME!!! My high school orchestra just played this!!! Chaffey Disrtict High School Symphony Orchestra. I'm a Bass player we played the whole symphony. I love the cello opening!!!

  • i love this composer

    :)

  • this is one of my favorite symphonies ever!!!

  • The horn player was awesome!

  • In Hong Kong, every weird thing can happen in the classicalmusic scene.

  • it was nice..but got a litto boring in the middle..but it was cool

  • It's not so bad for an underrated and rather unknown orchestra, but it still remains not very subtle...

  • What an awful conductor

  • His awfulness is internationally known.

  • the horn player doesn't really look up and played great, hmmm lol

  • why?

  • Thank you for posting this. I love this work and the orchestra sounds quite good here. The horns especially sound wonderful :-D

  • I love this work and the 8th and prefer both to the 9th.

    This version is pretty good, thanks for posting.

  • Thank you for posting this, it's my favourite movement from any of symphony. I know it sounds pretentions, but you can really feel the pain that Dvorak was going through, especially at 4:24 - 4:40. That passage is in a major key, but it feels so overwhelmingly sad.

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