@NerdInHisShoe Considering that in every major interstyle competition (UFC, Pride, K-1, It's Showtime...) the people that do well, all come from the same small number of styles (full contact karate, kickbox, muay thai, savate, shootfighting, bjj, wrestling...) I'd say the debate is settled yet some people still hold disillusions over their style because it's something they are attached to, put a lot of time into it, etc
@aiyer1989 The key words are (Full Contact). How Many Wing Chun people do any Full Contact work against competent fighters. This is why Wing Chun guys lose not because of the style. Experience wins out plain and simple I don't care what the art is. A lot of Wing Chun people are not training in any way that would do them any good in a real fight thats just due to crappy training beliefs I have met a few. I know a guy who studied Karate he did for years and told me he would stick with Wing Chun.
@wolf3001 And training methods are also part of a style. And even leaving training methods aside, the principles of WC (their foot work, centerline theory, chain punches) simply aren't up to the level of principles behind the attacks found in MT, savate... For example chain punches: the idea behind it is to overwhelm the opponent. However, while very fast, the punches also lack power. That lack of power will simply set someone up to be knocked out by a counter by a seasoned fighter.
@ajmagicman07 You made a funny! Is there a single wing chun rep making waves in any legit combat sport? No? I wonder why.... But there are hundreds of Karate-ka who are elite level fighters. I wonder how that could happen if WC was superior to karate. Oh that's right, it wouldn't, thats because it's not better.
@theuppro its not all about professional fighting, and its called MMA mixed martial arts so tell me who you know that is a professional fighter that has one fighting style?
@HxCpoppunkCAAB MMA is just one interstyle competition. There's also K-1, It's showtime, World Kombat association... In many of those, the pure striking competitions, most of the practitioners only have one style. None of them uses or credits Wing Chun. In MMA type competitons, people credit their major striking style and their major grappling style. None of the high level guys credit Wing Chun as their striking style. For me, that's the best evidence as to the effectiveness of Wing Chun.
@ajmagicman07 So is that why the Wing Chun practitioner always looses whenever he has to fight against someone of equal experience of another style? Just look at the countless youtube video's of WC vs kyokushin, kickbox, muay thai, savate... where the WC pracitioner is at the receiving end of the stick, or punch in this case.
@numberonemetallicafa LoL! And which video's would that be? Would that be the video's where they put a gi or MT trunks on a WC practitioner and sell them as WC vs ? But I'm sure the multiple WC champions in interstyle competitions such as for example K-1 prove me wrong. Oh wait, there aren't any.
@numberonemetallicafa So many variables. In jeet kune do, you have great clubs yet you also have many clubs that are lousy and just ride on Bruce Lee's fame. In karate, you likewise have a lot of lousy clubs and a number of good clubs (if it's full contact you're safe). The MMA club has the big advantage of a full curiculum (both striking and grappling) compared to karate and jeet kun do and has a standard high quality. Which is why if you're uncertain, I'd go for MMA.
@aiyer1989 hmmm well i'm currently taking up kung fu and wanted to take up jeet kune do after mastering the style i'm learning. hey i always looked up to Bruce Lee as a kid and wanted to fight just like him. I'll take mma into consideration...... maybe
@numberonemetallicafa Bruce lee also studied small circle ju-jutsu from wally jay for a year and judo from Gene lebell, because these guys worked his kung fu over, and Bruce would always fight with people before he trained with them, no sense in learning from someone you can easily defeat. Bruce wasn't stupid he knew where his fan base was and it wasn't Japan, so why not pump up Kung fu where he as a billion adoring fans.
@numberonemetallicafa Bruce Lee started out with wing chun but saw the faults that were present in the style so he supplemented it with savate (kicks), boxing (hands, obviously), judo (grappling) and even fencing (footwork, I think) . So personnaly, I find that if you really want to follow Bruce Lee, crosstraining in several arts is closer to his philosophy than just following JKD
@aiyer1989 true i read about jkd and everything you just said about it, is just about 100% true. i did try out karate for a while, but i didnt feel like i was learning anything. I do plan on trying out judo, and a few other styles, but I've always wanted to learn jkd but i cant find a jkd dojo here in San Antonio.
@aiyer1989 I used to think the same way, and while there is merit in what Bruce discovered, he never got all of Wing Chun, literally. He was forced by his father to leave Hong Kong before he could master the system. I'm not saying he wouldnt have still done much the same but the style wasnt as incomplete as he thought. Bruce was brilliant but he would have been even greater had he managed to learn the deeper levels of any of the systems he studied.
@aiyer1989 nope actually, Bruce Lee wasnt shown the full Wing Chun system, he only learned up to Chum Kiu and Grandmaster Yip wouldnt show him the rest of the system(they) Bruce Lee as a result went on to supplement what he wasnt taught with other movements
@mgk22 According to Bruce Lee's writings, he studied the other style's due to the faults within wing chun which are mainly a lack of power as well as a rather static fighting style: constant rhytm and movement. Although one could argue that Bruce only said that out of some spite for not being taught the full style, the reputation of wing chun when pitted against other styles (namely losing most of the matches) gives more evidence to the faults within WC.
@aiyer1989 which writings are those because I would like to read them, even so he still didnt know the full wing chun system(which when fully taught allows the user to move around only stationary in the drills like chi sao) lack of power? thats dumb sense many of the master like leung ting etc. have alot of power and chi gong Bruce Lee himself developed that power in Wing Chun. losing against other styles thats a lie since Grandmaster Yip Never lost a fight nor did Wong Shong Leung or Leung Jan
@mgk22 I would like proof of said supposed power. What we can easily judge however, is the comparative strength of a boxer, kickboxer.... of comparable experience through interstyle competitions such as K-1, it's showtime or lesser known competitions. In those competitions, the wing chun practitioner falls short.
At which the WC practioners claim they only lost because they couldn't use 'teh deadly'
@aiyer1989 two books Bruce Lee wrote were books on Wing Chun(one of them he was a technical writer so the proceeds could go to his friend) and frankly if he really thought that then he wouldnt have taken much of the system and put it into his Jeet Kune Do syster i.e. chi sao drills, lop sao pak sao drills, One inch punch drill etc. He knew there was power in it perhaps not brute strength but thats the idea behind the system more sensitivity and momentum use but chi gong power etc.
@aiyer1989 also Bruce Lee never lost a fight using Wing Chun infact he beat a western Boxer using it so saying it loses when pit against other styles is dumb when from most of the fights ive seen(and the fights ive been in) it dominates over the others
@mgk22 Really? Then you must show me those video's considering every movie on youtube depicts the wing chun user losing (or a WC user vs another WC user who claims he does this or that style). Also, the boxer you are referring to would be Gary Elms. A boxer who supposedly held a title for three years yet of whome exist no records. It would also be interesting to note that boxrece starts in the early 1900's whereas the supposed fight was held in 1958.
@aiyer1989 well that would be hard since Grandmaster Yip passed in the early 70's before youtube ever came(and he wouldnt even do it since he wouldnt film himself doing the movements for Bruce either) what? Ive seen videos here on youtube showing the wing chun winner winning like the kickboxer vs. wing chun guy etc. seeing as how Chi GOng isnt mythical since its used even in Karate and tae kwon do(they call it something else)
@mgk22 Chi gong, Qi gong... is a series of excercises designed to controll the flow of chi which is still a mythical, or perhaps better term would be mystical, force. A force that can't be physically grasped or shown, I'm basically searching for the word that describes that term. (I'm not a native English speaker.)
@mgk22 I've only seen two good wing chun fights. In which the wing chun practitioner wins agains an accomplished fighter. Those would be the video's of fightermanizdabest, some very good spars, and shawn obasi. The other movies depict WC vs 'insert style here' with an opponent who supposedly had some years of training yet who can't throw a single punch or kick right and their defensive skills are worse than their offenive skills. An example of this would be the movies by jaiharman.
@mgk22 bruce lee won some fights, but to really get into wing chun working in a street capacity, you must look into wong shun leung, and a few others that yip man trained. they actually used it more, bruce never completed wing chun training, and went on to develop jeet kune do, another formidable art, with roots in wing chun, for that, look into dan inosanto...
@aiyer1989 If you want self defense go traditional MMA, like Aamka-jutsu, or Kajukenbo, or Ed Parker Kenpo, you only have to look at bruce lees best weapons and they were a exploding side/back kick( which is a Kung fu Tiger tail kick or a tang soo do slidiing side kick. And a lead hand cross which again is a fusion of boxing and karate and kung fu, I have guys that are winning MMA events right now and they train from guys that have trained in Aamka-jutsu which is a fusion.
@JeffreyJamesLippold The reason why I always refer to mma,judo, boxing, kyukushin, savate... for someone who starts of in martial arts is because there is a universal standard. Nearly, if not all of the clubs give good quality training. So, if I can't check the club and they don't have the experience, then that's a safe bet for a good club. The ones you mentioned, though I don't know Aamka-utsu-, have a variating standard. The chance of them ending up in a good club or a bad club is just as big.
wing chun can take out a person in second....like i know? cuz i learn wing chun.
If only...IF ONLY! you know how to use it...
some of people now days just randomly hitting....ok....even though they learn karate or wing chun or kickboxer or whatever....but they never used it...they just end up rolling each other....
@meow91able what you said is 100% true. The thing to it is that these people haven't trained ENOUGH and dedicate there time to the art so they don't even bother applying it they just know it but can't use it yet. Bruce Lee's famous quotes "Knowing is not enough, you must / Willing is not enough, you must do"
The spoon was better at opening the nut than the nutcracker was at opening the nut. Somehow I think that the nutcracker would be better at opening the spoon than the spoon at opening the nutcracker.
@cyrogxx1111 wing chun uses techniques that are easier to master/grab hold of. using the spoon to open it uses little energy and gets the job done. the karate nut opener uses a lot of energy to get open. hes pre much delivering a message or exampling the 2 martial arts. either way theyre both good to learn
Didn't Bruce Lee said that a Karate Punch is like a iron bar on a chest while a Kung Fu punch is like a iron ball with a chain?
Anyways all martial art is good, there are no absolute "best" martial art. I would rather be scared of a person who trained one kick 100 times than a guy who are trained in 100 different kicks.
Thanks for the answer Limey9003, If you surf the net you will find vids about other matial arts in action in the street where they apply their techniques and philosophy, they aren't many of them but you can find some. You'll see that in street fights the outcome doesn't necessarily mean that one of the opponets have to suffer deadly injuries, so it is hard to beliave that there aren't any vids of wing chun in street fights.
Oh and also, don't forget even though this is showing the Benefits of Wing Chun, martial arts is about the skill of the person that uses it, not how good one style is versus another. All good sifu/sensei will tell you this.
There's a lot of theory that supports this vid, but are there real facts, can anyone suggest avideo where a wingchuner defeats a karate man? (no movies scenes)
@RenanArce Wing chun is not really suited to ring fighting. The idea of Wing Chun is concepts of self preservation, i can see what you mean theres no proof of Wing Chun beating Karate in the ring but the point is most of what we are taught in Wing Chun is illegal in ring matches. I dont know what other Sifus are teaching there students, but i'm taught ideas of self preservation. I.e. Strikes to the throat, eyes, kicks to kneecaps and groin. I understand where you are coming from though dude :)
U have been watching too many Kung fu movies... U need to enter in one of the many karate full contact tournaments that I'm sure are going on in your area,.... If your WC is so much better, I'm sure you will clean up. I don't see much of Wing Chun having any type of tournament(s) in my area (and they are all over in my area) And the only guy that I sparred (that claimed he did WC wasn't all that good) seems WC doesn't teach to defend against a standard sweep...lol...
@jadewillow you obviously have never actually sparred with a good wing chun pratitioner or havent looked into it much. Wing chun in its complete form is vastly superior to anything Karate can throw(heck Karate is an incomplete form and takes its history from chinese kung fu) Wing Chun is not as popular as karate so thats why you dont see it and heck sometimes we wont go to tournaments depending because our sparring requires no gloves we need our full hands so no gear(depending)
@mgk22 bull shit. KARATE FTW! Have you heard of koryukon karate? very complete. has knees elbows. very much like muay thai but has the elegance of karate. besides, you cant say x is better than y. its all in the person. i personally use karate as my base in mma. its the best it gets.
@mgk22 oh have you? what is it? and when did it come to be? pft karate is very complete. its kung fu thats laggy. its too much flash. No base. koryukon is extremely straight forward. anyways, its all in the practitioner, not the art.
@BunnyBUNGALO I wont deny that karate can be effective but in its prime compared to other styles like Wing Chun or Kung Fu(wushu) in general its very incomplete and frankly your not aware of what I mean when I say that, it doesn't matter if it has all the hits elbow etc. its its form and the flow thats incomplete even Bruce Lee, one of the best martial artists ever, said that karate suks compared to its Kung Fu Ancestors
@mgk22 you didnt answer my questions. besides. look up kung fu vs karate. everyone of them is in favor of the karate guy. except one fight with 2 little kids. and thats just because the fight was in china and the ref was chinese along with all the judges. karate is not incomplete. its effective and to the point. ive knocked around boxers in matters of second with karate. dont diss karate. its the best! look at machida!!!! KYOKUSHIN+ SHOTOKON= KORYUKON! KORYUKON FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@BunnyBUNGALO wrong I have looked up most karate vs. kung fu and almost all from what ive seen have the kung fu guy winning most of the time karate is just a shadow of what its ancestors forms are sorry if that hurt syou :( but its the truth its very incomplete karate suks in comparison and when you have people like Bruce Lee whom even confirmed that and other guys then its the truth and as this video demonstrates Karate uses brute force where as Wing Chun doesnt need brute force
@mgk22 under no circumstances does karate do so. it is all technique. yes technique. unlike kung fu. kung fus all flash. bruce lee said for something to be a technique it has to be simple enough for anyone top understand it. and kung fu doesnt offer that. koryukon does.
@BunnyBUNGALO nope Karate is more flashy atleast Kung Fu has its technique behind it. im guessing you've never done kung fu in your life but just karate and other incomplete forms? yeah ive done karate before and have seen korukon karate and other Okinawan forms and have done Kung fu and am currently practicing Wing Chun my Sifu has even done karate and everyone I speak to confirms yep its incomplete but maybe someday me or someone else will show you in an exchange why its incomplete ;)
@mgk22 kung fu has no technique because not anyone can understand it. and in what sense is koryukon incomplete? the fact it has no ground fighting? if thats so then so is kung fu. hell im in wrestlin and i do bjj. im a complete fighter. thats why i say mma is better than everything because its everything in one.
@BunnyBUNGALO since your telling me Kung Fu has no technique tells me your not very educated in the world of Martial Arts or your just not intelligent enough to understand therefore your points suk :) no one can understand it only if your not practicing it so your no one to be talking, no ground technique doesnt make it incomplete you still dont know what I mean by that look it up then. MMA is a laughing stock it has perverted real martial arts for ring fighting and brute strength
@mgk22 i am educated. but for something to be a technique it has to have very few steps. all of kung fu is this this this that. all flash. iis mma is a laughing stock, then how about you step up and fight a mix martial artist. lets see you become the laughing stock. hell i bet i could either knock you out or submit you in a minute flat. im actually certain i can.
@BunnyBUNGALO you will never know until we fight and trust me if they day comes your dead but its funny how you've attempted to shift the discussion away from Karate and trying to talk about MMA im guessing that means you know that Karate suks and your trying to shift the conversation unto MMA now lol yeah you lose man Kung Fu vastly superior to its descendant Karate
@mgk22 kid beat you with just my karate. i wouldnt be dead. ive fought guys faster and taller than me. i do pretty damn well because i got timing. ha you couldnt touch me. and if you did, well you hit me, but kung fu is proven to have the weakest strikes. i highly doubt you could even rock me. or catch me for that matter. LONG LIVE KORYUKON!
@BunnyBUNGALO actually Kung FU has the best strikes compared to karate lol wow kid huh well it seems you lost the argument your trying to put in ad hominum attacks and your trying to go off Karate and talk about MMA admit it man karate suks in comparison lol Kung Fu vastly superior as this video here demonstrates ;) keep talking its fun watching you try to prove karate is better when its not :)
@BunnyBUNGALO lol yeah keep talking fight science lol now your dumbing your arguments down to a t.v. show, as fun as fight science was not everything on there was that accurate and Kung Fu has several several different styles some maybe weaker than others but even the weak ones from what I can tell still have an edge but it dont matter im really starting to enjoy how desperate you are to disprove me keep trying its actually comic relief for me now :)
@BunnyBUNGALO lol you really are funny you just keep trying to prove something is that good when its not(compared to something stronger and more complete) no need to fight a karate guy already did and dont need to prove it I said what I said and you can look it. up your funny really you are you seem soo desperate you keep coming back ;)
@BunnyBUNGALO plus since you already have a predetermined mind set of how kung fu is there really is no point to try and prove anything to you because you will just pass it off
@mgk22 not true. your that way about karate. if i told you i beat a kung fu guy, then youd say he was no good at kung fu. so you shouldnt be one to talk.
@mit1mit2mity4 theres a whole history behind how tai chi is now seen as a style practiced for its health benefits...but a fun fact about tai chi is that it used to be THE main style or in other words the FIRST fighting style that ever existed in china and from there many other styles of kung fu rooted from tai chi
@BunnyBUNGALO Well actually kungfu is proven to deal more damage not with 1 strikes but a real kungfu master can hit up to 40 times a second, dealing a lot more damage than karate which deals just 1 or 2 hit a second.
@mit1mit2mity4 40 times a second? The world record for most punches thrown in a minute only averages 13 a second. Besides, what's the point of lightly poking your opponent with 40 fast punches when one solid punch will drop them?
@mit1mit2mity4 Who on Earth fed you that bs? I'm a rank novice and I can get three kicks in a second. I can get over three hundred punches in the mad minute and that's at least six per second. Are you honestly going to try and tell me that karate is gonna make me slower? Maybe what you're trying to say is you were knocked cold by the first two and your opponent stood about for the rest of the second wondering if you had any idea of fighting.
@mgk22 / watch ? v = a4 JiN rU7j Ek& feature =related hmm a white belt beatin a kung fu practitioner. says something about how incomplete karate is....
@kajakry i dont think he is saying it is easy, I believe he is trying to say karate is more of a "hard" martial art while WC is soft and either way they both can to the job
Whatever happened to appreciating what each martial art brings to the table? karate is good at what it does, wing chun/kung fu is good at what it does, muay thai is good at what it does. If it helps you leave the fight alive and in one piece, then it worked, right? But if you lose the fight, is it because you should've studied a different style, or is it because you yourself weren't up to snuff at that time?
@deek77 Agreed, that's why i said that this person is very narrow minded. Take what is essential to you and leave the rest that you dont need, behind...One of Bruce lee's philosophy. Also known as Jeet Kune Do.
One person's take on the never-ending karate vs. kung fu(in this case, wing chun) debate, everyone's entitled to their view. But in reality not so simple. First, not all karate is based on all out brute force - kyokushin and shotokan are just two branches on a very big tree...
@deek77 ...Some are based on redirecting force, using angles, countering & evasion like Ashihara and Enshin(which ironically are both offshoots of kyokushin) and Wado-Ryu. Some are based on close-quarter fighting & joint manipulation like Goju, Uechi. In fact, Okinawan styles shun the brute force, block-and-counter approach seen in Japanese styles. So it's not as cut and dry and this gentleman perceives it to be. Still, a good illustration of his thoughts on the matter, I salute him.
So, let me get this straight... Karate is strong, shreds its opponent and its difficult to learn, while wing chun is weak, easy and all it does is to tickle the opponent until he opens up... hmmm ok, i get it =D
@jagerma5ter What? No it isn't. He fled China during the occupation. That movie boasts some grand fight sequences - even if the actor who plays the Japanese General had had no martial training up until appearing in Ip Man - but is largely a work of Chinese propaganda. Don't refer to it for a history lesson.
Big fan of Bruce Lee, Umm Bruce & Chuck were good friends..but sadly, Bruce did not train Chuck Norris they were sparring partners. I did hear once that Bruce helped Chuck do his roadhouse kicks though. Bruce Lee did not finish his wing chun training through his master Yip Man, he actually had a disagreement with him. Eventually Bruce learned from someone else, and obtained his Black Sash. Bruce Lee is a true Icon.
To the man saying Wing chun would get there asses kicked you have truly shown stupidity because 1 bruce lee developed jeet kun do from wing chun and wushu kung fu. Bruce lee was hand down the best fighter who ever lived. ps everyone stop with the lame chuck noris jokes everbody knows bruce lee trained chuck noris and just because you can do a spinning crescent kick and a round house doesn't mean your god lol.
well karate does have its slow and also technically movements where u not only count on strenght.....its exactly this prejudice which i despise.....shouldnt people experience a martial form before they can judge it....and besides isnt it much cleverer to train both beein able to slice a walnut gently and on the other side smash it hard.....to have something between is the goal.
I HAVE in fact done karate, not to the extent of which I did kng fu and muay thai but to the extent of what I know what I'm talking about (8months+).
Using that tool he used to crack the wlnut dd not just depend on brute strength, it was brute strength, he'd use the table and drop it on the wall nut. The tool he used contained wedges that magnifies the force of which is bing applied. If it was all brute strength, then use 2 sticks & try it. It doesn't work.
i agree, but nowadays karate is sport, and is hard to actually find someone that teaches the traditional one, thus making wing chun better for real life
Walnuts don't hit back!!
LeHammockRider 3 months ago
that is exactly the point! very good metaphor !
lpperalta1 6 months ago
both very effective techniques with different methods but the same overall outcome. well played.
aratisbug 6 months ago
see..one should try to leave on peace with every other martial artist..although p try to make or the other look bad
Jorgelee01 7 months ago
I'm a wing chun oriented person, but i know that both okinawan karate and wing chun are great arts. And i said OKINAWAN karate, not japanese copy...
GuitarDestroyer77777 7 months ago
Both great styles, and wonderful in different things - as the simile up there shows, they both get the job done...
EalhwineScholar 7 months ago
Fuck china
dembuontinhle 8 months ago
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terran236 7 months ago
@dembuontinhle Die.
squawkbox09 6 months ago
Well if I am fighting wallnuts I will give a wing chun master a call. Until then I will stick to my aamka-jutsu. It works.
JeffreyJamesLippold 9 months ago
this is actully pretty clever
Jeffatonians 10 months ago
clever
artpwnify 10 months ago
i use a screwdriver
lesliekwan80 10 months ago
If any martial art was "better" than the others, it would have already been settled hundreds of years ago and we would all be using that art.
You'd think martial artsists would be more mature about this sort of thing instead of turning it into a huge pissing contest.
NerdInHisShoe 10 months ago
@NerdInHisShoe Considering that in every major interstyle competition (UFC, Pride, K-1, It's Showtime...) the people that do well, all come from the same small number of styles (full contact karate, kickbox, muay thai, savate, shootfighting, bjj, wrestling...) I'd say the debate is settled yet some people still hold disillusions over their style because it's something they are attached to, put a lot of time into it, etc
aiyer1989 9 months ago
@aiyer1989 The key words are (Full Contact). How Many Wing Chun people do any Full Contact work against competent fighters. This is why Wing Chun guys lose not because of the style. Experience wins out plain and simple I don't care what the art is. A lot of Wing Chun people are not training in any way that would do them any good in a real fight thats just due to crappy training beliefs I have met a few. I know a guy who studied Karate he did for years and told me he would stick with Wing Chun.
wolf3001 9 months ago
@wolf3001 And training methods are also part of a style. And even leaving training methods aside, the principles of WC (their foot work, centerline theory, chain punches) simply aren't up to the level of principles behind the attacks found in MT, savate... For example chain punches: the idea behind it is to overwhelm the opponent. However, while very fast, the punches also lack power. That lack of power will simply set someone up to be knocked out by a counter by a seasoned fighter.
aiyer1989 9 months ago
i wouldnt say little force, i would say inch power. But anyways Wing Chun will always be better than karate
ajmagicman07 10 months ago
@ajmagicman07 You made a funny! Is there a single wing chun rep making waves in any legit combat sport? No? I wonder why.... But there are hundreds of Karate-ka who are elite level fighters. I wonder how that could happen if WC was superior to karate. Oh that's right, it wouldn't, thats because it's not better.
theuppro 10 months ago
@theuppro its not all about professional fighting, and its called MMA mixed martial arts so tell me who you know that is a professional fighter that has one fighting style?
HxCpoppunkCAAB 10 months ago
@HxCpoppunkCAAB MMA is just one interstyle competition. There's also K-1, It's showtime, World Kombat association... In many of those, the pure striking competitions, most of the practitioners only have one style. None of them uses or credits Wing Chun. In MMA type competitons, people credit their major striking style and their major grappling style. None of the high level guys credit Wing Chun as their striking style. For me, that's the best evidence as to the effectiveness of Wing Chun.
aiyer1989 9 months ago
@theuppro People have theeir own opinion dude and i respect yours but in my opinion, wing chun is better.
numberonemetallicafa 9 months ago
@ajmagicman07 So is that why the Wing Chun practitioner always looses whenever he has to fight against someone of equal experience of another style? Just look at the countless youtube video's of WC vs kyokushin, kickbox, muay thai, savate... where the WC pracitioner is at the receiving end of the stick, or punch in this case.
aiyer1989 9 months ago
@aiyer1989 i alway see the wing chun practitioner kick the other guys ass.
numberonemetallicafa 9 months ago
@numberonemetallicafa LoL! And which video's would that be? Would that be the video's where they put a gi or MT trunks on a WC practitioner and sell them as WC vs ? But I'm sure the multiple WC champions in interstyle competitions such as for example K-1 prove me wrong. Oh wait, there aren't any.
aiyer1989 9 months ago
@aiyer1989 lol man who knows?! lol i was just sayin. I know a man who mastered wing chun and kicked ass!
numberonemetallicafa 9 months ago
@aiyer1989 Hey man what about jeet kune do? do you think karate or mma is better then jeet kunedo?
numberonemetallicafa 9 months ago
@numberonemetallicafa So many variables. In jeet kune do, you have great clubs yet you also have many clubs that are lousy and just ride on Bruce Lee's fame. In karate, you likewise have a lot of lousy clubs and a number of good clubs (if it's full contact you're safe). The MMA club has the big advantage of a full curiculum (both striking and grappling) compared to karate and jeet kun do and has a standard high quality. Which is why if you're uncertain, I'd go for MMA.
aiyer1989 9 months ago
@aiyer1989 hmmm well i'm currently taking up kung fu and wanted to take up jeet kune do after mastering the style i'm learning. hey i always looked up to Bruce Lee as a kid and wanted to fight just like him. I'll take mma into consideration...... maybe
numberonemetallicafa 9 months ago
@numberonemetallicafa Bruce lee also studied small circle ju-jutsu from wally jay for a year and judo from Gene lebell, because these guys worked his kung fu over, and Bruce would always fight with people before he trained with them, no sense in learning from someone you can easily defeat. Bruce wasn't stupid he knew where his fan base was and it wasn't Japan, so why not pump up Kung fu where he as a billion adoring fans.
JeffreyJamesLippold 9 months ago
@numberonemetallicafa Bruce Lee started out with wing chun but saw the faults that were present in the style so he supplemented it with savate (kicks), boxing (hands, obviously), judo (grappling) and even fencing (footwork, I think) . So personnaly, I find that if you really want to follow Bruce Lee, crosstraining in several arts is closer to his philosophy than just following JKD
aiyer1989 9 months ago
@aiyer1989 true i read about jkd and everything you just said about it, is just about 100% true. i did try out karate for a while, but i didnt feel like i was learning anything. I do plan on trying out judo, and a few other styles, but I've always wanted to learn jkd but i cant find a jkd dojo here in San Antonio.
numberonemetallicafa 9 months ago
@aiyer1989 I used to think the same way, and while there is merit in what Bruce discovered, he never got all of Wing Chun, literally. He was forced by his father to leave Hong Kong before he could master the system. I'm not saying he wouldnt have still done much the same but the style wasnt as incomplete as he thought. Bruce was brilliant but he would have been even greater had he managed to learn the deeper levels of any of the systems he studied.
Bastion83 9 months ago
@aiyer1989 nope actually, Bruce Lee wasnt shown the full Wing Chun system, he only learned up to Chum Kiu and Grandmaster Yip wouldnt show him the rest of the system(they) Bruce Lee as a result went on to supplement what he wasnt taught with other movements
mgk22 9 months ago
@mgk22 According to Bruce Lee's writings, he studied the other style's due to the faults within wing chun which are mainly a lack of power as well as a rather static fighting style: constant rhytm and movement. Although one could argue that Bruce only said that out of some spite for not being taught the full style, the reputation of wing chun when pitted against other styles (namely losing most of the matches) gives more evidence to the faults within WC.
aiyer1989 9 months ago
@aiyer1989 which writings are those because I would like to read them, even so he still didnt know the full wing chun system(which when fully taught allows the user to move around only stationary in the drills like chi sao) lack of power? thats dumb sense many of the master like leung ting etc. have alot of power and chi gong Bruce Lee himself developed that power in Wing Chun. losing against other styles thats a lie since Grandmaster Yip Never lost a fight nor did Wong Shong Leung or Leung Jan
mgk22 9 months ago
@mgk22 I would like proof of said supposed power. What we can easily judge however, is the comparative strength of a boxer, kickboxer.... of comparable experience through interstyle competitions such as K-1, it's showtime or lesser known competitions. In those competitions, the wing chun practitioner falls short.
At which the WC practioners claim they only lost because they couldn't use 'teh deadly'
aiyer1989 9 months ago
@aiyer1989 two books Bruce Lee wrote were books on Wing Chun(one of them he was a technical writer so the proceeds could go to his friend) and frankly if he really thought that then he wouldnt have taken much of the system and put it into his Jeet Kune Do syster i.e. chi sao drills, lop sao pak sao drills, One inch punch drill etc. He knew there was power in it perhaps not brute strength but thats the idea behind the system more sensitivity and momentum use but chi gong power etc.
mgk22 9 months ago
@mgk22 Chi gong Power? Would that be the mythical power that dissapears whenever a WC practitioner has to spar against an accomplished fighter?
aiyer1989 9 months ago
@aiyer1989 also Bruce Lee never lost a fight using Wing Chun infact he beat a western Boxer using it so saying it loses when pit against other styles is dumb when from most of the fights ive seen(and the fights ive been in) it dominates over the others
mgk22 9 months ago
@mgk22 Really? Then you must show me those video's considering every movie on youtube depicts the wing chun user losing (or a WC user vs another WC user who claims he does this or that style). Also, the boxer you are referring to would be Gary Elms. A boxer who supposedly held a title for three years yet of whome exist no records. It would also be interesting to note that boxrece starts in the early 1900's whereas the supposed fight was held in 1958.
aiyer1989 9 months ago
@aiyer1989 well that would be hard since Grandmaster Yip passed in the early 70's before youtube ever came(and he wouldnt even do it since he wouldnt film himself doing the movements for Bruce either) what? Ive seen videos here on youtube showing the wing chun winner winning like the kickboxer vs. wing chun guy etc. seeing as how Chi GOng isnt mythical since its used even in Karate and tae kwon do(they call it something else)
mgk22 9 months ago
@mgk22 Chi gong, Qi gong... is a series of excercises designed to controll the flow of chi which is still a mythical, or perhaps better term would be mystical, force. A force that can't be physically grasped or shown, I'm basically searching for the word that describes that term. (I'm not a native English speaker.)
aiyer1989 9 months ago
@mgk22 I've only seen two good wing chun fights. In which the wing chun practitioner wins agains an accomplished fighter. Those would be the video's of fightermanizdabest, some very good spars, and shawn obasi. The other movies depict WC vs 'insert style here' with an opponent who supposedly had some years of training yet who can't throw a single punch or kick right and their defensive skills are worse than their offenive skills. An example of this would be the movies by jaiharman.
aiyer1989 9 months ago
@mgk22 bruce lee won some fights, but to really get into wing chun working in a street capacity, you must look into wong shun leung, and a few others that yip man trained. they actually used it more, bruce never completed wing chun training, and went on to develop jeet kune do, another formidable art, with roots in wing chun, for that, look into dan inosanto...
greenchie2 9 months ago 2
@aiyer1989 If you want self defense go traditional MMA, like Aamka-jutsu, or Kajukenbo, or Ed Parker Kenpo, you only have to look at bruce lees best weapons and they were a exploding side/back kick( which is a Kung fu Tiger tail kick or a tang soo do slidiing side kick. And a lead hand cross which again is a fusion of boxing and karate and kung fu, I have guys that are winning MMA events right now and they train from guys that have trained in Aamka-jutsu which is a fusion.
JeffreyJamesLippold 9 months ago
@JeffreyJamesLippold The reason why I always refer to mma,judo, boxing, kyukushin, savate... for someone who starts of in martial arts is because there is a universal standard. Nearly, if not all of the clubs give good quality training. So, if I can't check the club and they don't have the experience, then that's a safe bet for a good club. The ones you mentioned, though I don't know Aamka-utsu-, have a variating standard. The chance of them ending up in a good club or a bad club is just as big.
aiyer1989 9 months ago
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i always see the wing chun practitioner kick the other guys ass.
numberonemetallicafa 9 months ago
@ajmagicman07 I 100% agree with you!
numberonemetallicafa 9 months ago
wing chun can take out a person in second....like i know? cuz i learn wing chun.
If only...IF ONLY! you know how to use it...
some of people now days just randomly hitting....ok....even though they learn karate or wing chun or kickboxer or whatever....but they never used it...they just end up rolling each other....
meow91able 11 months ago
@meow91able what you said is 100% true. The thing to it is that these people haven't trained ENOUGH and dedicate there time to the art so they don't even bother applying it they just know it but can't use it yet. Bruce Lee's famous quotes "Knowing is not enough, you must / Willing is not enough, you must do"
SoloxWalkaz 11 months ago
The spoon was better at opening the nut than the nutcracker was at opening the nut. Somehow I think that the nutcracker would be better at opening the spoon than the spoon at opening the nutcracker.
gaxxag 11 months ago
Ok so Wing chun would be better than Karate if you only got into fights with nuts
Flamestrke 11 months ago 2
lol very nice
GuyWithoutEyes 11 months ago
WTF??????????
Hey Wing Chun is better then karate, trust me :)
SuperHwarangdo 1 year ago 2
@SuperHwarangdo True!!! Alot better :D
CreativeVidGermany 10 months ago 3
WTF!!!!
dark27itim 1 year ago
whats this asshole trying to prove ?
cyrogxx1111 1 year ago
@cyrogxx1111 wing chun uses techniques that are easier to master/grab hold of. using the spoon to open it uses little energy and gets the job done. the karate nut opener uses a lot of energy to get open. hes pre much delivering a message or exampling the 2 martial arts. either way theyre both good to learn
TheDarkDimensions 1 year ago
Yo good job. Now go do that with a motherfucking coconut.
Supercucu123 1 year ago 11
You're very narrow minded.
MrDeathCab1 1 year ago
this was a pretty funny joke! ha ha ha! hilarious!
DGDIEZEL 1 year ago
nice concept!
cantsleepjujeje 1 year ago
wt wins
khemaichen 1 year ago
hurensohn
Xpll123 1 year ago
Just true ;]
SahuSaszka 1 year ago
this video made no sense... at all...
Badjinn 1 year ago
but its funny xD xD
I beat u all.... best defense technic is from Smith and Wesson.... only aim and shot xD
666NeXuS666 1 year ago
@666NeXuS666 Okay mate ill see you in jail what 40 yrs for second degree murder.
BACKWARDSgameREVIEWS 1 year ago
@BACKWARDSgameREVIEWS
i sayd defense u stupid!
666NeXuS666 1 year ago
Pozdro dla Splyna i dla klasy Ie :D
grudnio12 1 year ago
Didn't Ip Man say 'It's not the style it's the fighter that counts'? Well he does in the film anyway! ;)
muchosmuertos 1 year ago
Didn't Bruce Lee said that a Karate Punch is like a iron bar on a chest while a Kung Fu punch is like a iron ball with a chain?
Anyways all martial art is good, there are no absolute "best" martial art. I would rather be scared of a person who trained one kick 100 times than a guy who are trained in 100 different kicks.
hanchiman 1 year ago
Realy smart i like it :)
kajimusha 1 year ago
IL principio è giustissimo (la pratica meno) ;)
FabioneTNT 1 year ago
Anyway my intention is to find out more of wing chun always being respectful with it and their practitioners as well with any other martial art.
RenanArce 1 year ago
Thanks for the answer Limey9003, If you surf the net you will find vids about other matial arts in action in the street where they apply their techniques and philosophy, they aren't many of them but you can find some. You'll see that in street fights the outcome doesn't necessarily mean that one of the opponets have to suffer deadly injuries, so it is hard to beliave that there aren't any vids of wing chun in street fights.
RenanArce 1 year ago
Oh and also, don't forget even though this is showing the Benefits of Wing Chun, martial arts is about the skill of the person that uses it, not how good one style is versus another. All good sifu/sensei will tell you this.
Limey9003 1 year ago
can i have a piece?
Mrmusicmaster88 1 year ago
There's a lot of theory that supports this vid, but are there real facts, can anyone suggest avideo where a wingchuner defeats a karate man? (no movies scenes)
RenanArce 1 year ago
@RenanArce Wing chun is not really suited to ring fighting. The idea of Wing Chun is concepts of self preservation, i can see what you mean theres no proof of Wing Chun beating Karate in the ring but the point is most of what we are taught in Wing Chun is illegal in ring matches. I dont know what other Sifus are teaching there students, but i'm taught ideas of self preservation. I.e. Strikes to the throat, eyes, kicks to kneecaps and groin. I understand where you are coming from though dude :)
Limey9003 1 year ago
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wing chun is simple not easy but good video
tutanota 1 year ago
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tutanota 1 year ago
lol
TheDoom13 1 year ago
WTF
wt31313 1 year ago
Amazing.
highawareness 1 year ago
wing nuts
09741463 1 year ago
U have been watching too many Kung fu movies... U need to enter in one of the many karate full contact tournaments that I'm sure are going on in your area,.... If your WC is so much better, I'm sure you will clean up. I don't see much of Wing Chun having any type of tournament(s) in my area (and they are all over in my area) And the only guy that I sparred (that claimed he did WC wasn't all that good) seems WC doesn't teach to defend against a standard sweep...lol...
jadewillow 1 year ago
@jadewillow you obviously have never actually sparred with a good wing chun pratitioner or havent looked into it much. Wing chun in its complete form is vastly superior to anything Karate can throw(heck Karate is an incomplete form and takes its history from chinese kung fu) Wing Chun is not as popular as karate so thats why you dont see it and heck sometimes we wont go to tournaments depending because our sparring requires no gloves we need our full hands so no gear(depending)
mgk22 1 year ago
@mgk22 bull shit. KARATE FTW! Have you heard of koryukon karate? very complete. has knees elbows. very much like muay thai but has the elegance of karate. besides, you cant say x is better than y. its all in the person. i personally use karate as my base in mma. its the best it gets.
BunnyBUNGALO 1 year ago
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mgk22 1 year ago
@BunnyBUNGALO of course I have and its just as incomplete as the rest of Karate its but a shadow of its chinese kung fu ancestors
mgk22 1 year ago
@mgk22 oh have you? what is it? and when did it come to be? pft karate is very complete. its kung fu thats laggy. its too much flash. No base. koryukon is extremely straight forward. anyways, its all in the practitioner, not the art.
BunnyBUNGALO 1 year ago
@BunnyBUNGALO I wont deny that karate can be effective but in its prime compared to other styles like Wing Chun or Kung Fu(wushu) in general its very incomplete and frankly your not aware of what I mean when I say that, it doesn't matter if it has all the hits elbow etc. its its form and the flow thats incomplete even Bruce Lee, one of the best martial artists ever, said that karate suks compared to its Kung Fu Ancestors
mgk22 1 year ago
@mgk22 you didnt answer my questions. besides. look up kung fu vs karate. everyone of them is in favor of the karate guy. except one fight with 2 little kids. and thats just because the fight was in china and the ref was chinese along with all the judges. karate is not incomplete. its effective and to the point. ive knocked around boxers in matters of second with karate. dont diss karate. its the best! look at machida!!!! KYOKUSHIN+ SHOTOKON= KORYUKON! KORYUKON FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BunnyBUNGALO 1 year ago
@BunnyBUNGALO wrong I have looked up most karate vs. kung fu and almost all from what ive seen have the kung fu guy winning most of the time karate is just a shadow of what its ancestors forms are sorry if that hurt syou :( but its the truth its very incomplete karate suks in comparison and when you have people like Bruce Lee whom even confirmed that and other guys then its the truth and as this video demonstrates Karate uses brute force where as Wing Chun doesnt need brute force
mgk22 1 year ago
@mgk22 under no circumstances does karate do so. it is all technique. yes technique. unlike kung fu. kung fus all flash. bruce lee said for something to be a technique it has to be simple enough for anyone top understand it. and kung fu doesnt offer that. koryukon does.
BunnyBUNGALO 1 year ago
@BunnyBUNGALO nope Karate is more flashy atleast Kung Fu has its technique behind it. im guessing you've never done kung fu in your life but just karate and other incomplete forms? yeah ive done karate before and have seen korukon karate and other Okinawan forms and have done Kung fu and am currently practicing Wing Chun my Sifu has even done karate and everyone I speak to confirms yep its incomplete but maybe someday me or someone else will show you in an exchange why its incomplete ;)
mgk22 1 year ago
@mgk22 kung fu has no technique because not anyone can understand it. and in what sense is koryukon incomplete? the fact it has no ground fighting? if thats so then so is kung fu. hell im in wrestlin and i do bjj. im a complete fighter. thats why i say mma is better than everything because its everything in one.
BunnyBUNGALO 1 year ago
@BunnyBUNGALO since your telling me Kung Fu has no technique tells me your not very educated in the world of Martial Arts or your just not intelligent enough to understand therefore your points suk :) no one can understand it only if your not practicing it so your no one to be talking, no ground technique doesnt make it incomplete you still dont know what I mean by that look it up then. MMA is a laughing stock it has perverted real martial arts for ring fighting and brute strength
mgk22 1 year ago
@mgk22 i am educated. but for something to be a technique it has to have very few steps. all of kung fu is this this this that. all flash. iis mma is a laughing stock, then how about you step up and fight a mix martial artist. lets see you become the laughing stock. hell i bet i could either knock you out or submit you in a minute flat. im actually certain i can.
BunnyBUNGALO 1 year ago
@BunnyBUNGALO you will never know until we fight and trust me if they day comes your dead but its funny how you've attempted to shift the discussion away from Karate and trying to talk about MMA im guessing that means you know that Karate suks and your trying to shift the conversation unto MMA now lol yeah you lose man Kung Fu vastly superior to its descendant Karate
mgk22 1 year ago
@mgk22 kid beat you with just my karate. i wouldnt be dead. ive fought guys faster and taller than me. i do pretty damn well because i got timing. ha you couldnt touch me. and if you did, well you hit me, but kung fu is proven to have the weakest strikes. i highly doubt you could even rock me. or catch me for that matter. LONG LIVE KORYUKON!
BunnyBUNGALO 1 year ago
@BunnyBUNGALO actually Kung FU has the best strikes compared to karate lol wow kid huh well it seems you lost the argument your trying to put in ad hominum attacks and your trying to go off Karate and talk about MMA admit it man karate suks in comparison lol Kung Fu vastly superior as this video here demonstrates ;) keep talking its fun watching you try to prove karate is better when its not :)
mgk22 1 year ago
@mgk22 uh no! watch fight science. kung fu has the weakest strikes and isnt convenient at all. one week in kar4ate = 3 months in kung fu. Kthnxbai
BunnyBUNGALO 1 year ago
@BunnyBUNGALO lol yeah keep talking fight science lol now your dumbing your arguments down to a t.v. show, as fun as fight science was not everything on there was that accurate and Kung Fu has several several different styles some maybe weaker than others but even the weak ones from what I can tell still have an edge but it dont matter im really starting to enjoy how desperate you are to disprove me keep trying its actually comic relief for me now :)
mgk22 1 year ago
@mgk22 how about you prove some of the shit you say. go fight a high level karate fighter and see how good kung fu. itll be a comic relief to me.
BunnyBUNGALO 1 year ago
@BunnyBUNGALO lol you really are funny you just keep trying to prove something is that good when its not(compared to something stronger and more complete) no need to fight a karate guy already did and dont need to prove it I said what I said and you can look it. up your funny really you are you seem soo desperate you keep coming back ;)
mgk22 1 year ago
@mgk22 im desperate? your the one saying stuff and not backing it up with any evidence.
BunnyBUNGALO 1 year ago
@BunnyBUNGALO keep talking son your soooo funny for a desperate guy :D
mgk22 1 year ago
@BunnyBUNGALO plus since you already have a predetermined mind set of how kung fu is there really is no point to try and prove anything to you because you will just pass it off
mgk22 1 year ago
@mgk22 not true. your that way about karate. if i told you i beat a kung fu guy, then youd say he was no good at kung fu. so you shouldnt be one to talk.
BunnyBUNGALO 1 year ago
@BunnyBUNGALO difference is I have taken Karate before have you taken Kung Fu before? if so then fine.
mgk22 1 year ago
@mgk22 ive been taught some.
BunnyBUNGALO 1 year ago
@mgk22
@BunnyBUNGALO
although i prefer kungfu, you should try ninjitsu guess they beat it all (guess because their techniques are made to kill)
mit1mit2mity4 1 year ago
@mit1mit2mity4 all martial arts until 1800 or around there was for killing :(
kajimusha 1 year ago
@kajimusha No it wasnt, for example look at the thai chi it was a martial arts created to increase health
mit1mit2mity4 1 year ago
@mit1mit2mity4 theres a whole history behind how tai chi is now seen as a style practiced for its health benefits...but a fun fact about tai chi is that it used to be THE main style or in other words the FIRST fighting style that ever existed in china and from there many other styles of kung fu rooted from tai chi
YoungCrs 1 year ago
@BunnyBUNGALO Well actually kungfu is proven to deal more damage not with 1 strikes but a real kungfu master can hit up to 40 times a second, dealing a lot more damage than karate which deals just 1 or 2 hit a second.
mit1mit2mity4 1 year ago
@mit1mit2mity4
40 times a second? aahm...no thats bullshit.
hardcorl 1 year ago
@mit1mit2mity4 40 times a second? The world record for most punches thrown in a minute only averages 13 a second. Besides, what's the point of lightly poking your opponent with 40 fast punches when one solid punch will drop them?
kyokushinjarhead 1 year ago
@mit1mit2mity4 Who on Earth fed you that bs? I'm a rank novice and I can get three kicks in a second. I can get over three hundred punches in the mad minute and that's at least six per second. Are you honestly going to try and tell me that karate is gonna make me slower? Maybe what you're trying to say is you were knocked cold by the first two and your opponent stood about for the rest of the second wondering if you had any idea of fighting.
psychedashell 1 year ago
@mgk22 / watch ? v = a4 JiN rU7j Ek& feature =related hmm a white belt beatin a kung fu practitioner. says something about how incomplete karate is....
BunnyBUNGALO 1 year ago
I do Karate but I do have to admit that kung fu is better in many ways, its very cool video.
KaiOowBR 1 year ago
wing chun.....the gentle way to defense
djbraincrash 1 year ago
Wing chun is not easy omg
kajakry 1 year ago
@kajakry i dont think he is saying it is easy, I believe he is trying to say karate is more of a "hard" martial art while WC is soft and either way they both can to the job
megamanrxs 1 year ago
@megamanrxs
No i think he says that the power you use has nothing to do with how easy you can clear the job.
mit1mit2mity4 1 year ago
Whatever happened to appreciating what each martial art brings to the table? karate is good at what it does, wing chun/kung fu is good at what it does, muay thai is good at what it does. If it helps you leave the fight alive and in one piece, then it worked, right? But if you lose the fight, is it because you should've studied a different style, or is it because you yourself weren't up to snuff at that time?
deek77 1 year ago 21
@deek77 AMEN
yogiaussie 1 year ago
@deek77 Agreed, that's why i said that this person is very narrow minded. Take what is essential to you and leave the rest that you dont need, behind...One of Bruce lee's philosophy. Also known as Jeet Kune Do.
MrDeathCab1 1 year ago
One person's take on the never-ending karate vs. kung fu(in this case, wing chun) debate, everyone's entitled to their view. But in reality not so simple. First, not all karate is based on all out brute force - kyokushin and shotokan are just two branches on a very big tree...
deek77 1 year ago 10
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@deek77 ...Some are based on redirecting force, using angles, countering & evasion like Ashihara and Enshin(which ironically are both offshoots of kyokushin) and Wado-Ryu. Some are based on close-quarter fighting & joint manipulation like Goju, Uechi. In fact, Okinawan styles shun the brute force, block-and-counter approach seen in Japanese styles. So it's not as cut and dry and this gentleman perceives it to be. Still, a good illustration of his thoughts on the matter, I salute him.
deek77 1 year ago
your video is absolutely correct :)
UrbanFl0w 1 year ago
Japanese masters, MMA fighters, UFC and Vale Tudo fighters shoul see and learn from this
tranglomango 1 year ago
LOL at first i thought you were making fun of wing chun. lolololol very nice interpretation
XXRenegadePandaXX 1 year ago
So, let me get this straight... Karate is strong, shreds its opponent and its difficult to learn, while wing chun is weak, easy and all it does is to tickle the opponent until he opens up... hmmm ok, i get it =D
abudegans 1 year ago
wing chun is better OMG OMG OMG
kajakry 1 year ago
@userfromwb if you think wing chun is usless in real life, go and fight a Sifu, or tell them that its useless, there is proof that wing chun works.
LS0412 1 year ago
@LS0412 is that right, you know? i dont think you do because I have used it to defend myself and it worked pretty effectively thank you.
LS0412 1 year ago
i really like the idea behind that video, good way of presenting those two styles
Lamerscop 1 year ago
LOL
pspjunkie777 1 year ago
HAHAHAHA!!! NICE!!!!
DunkelStern 1 year ago
in my personal opinion i think he was demonstrating that they are different martial arts
basically if your small and weaker wing chun is probably better for you in real life
TheMissSel 1 year ago
y spoon, fork also can, penis also can
expopmen 1 year ago
@userfromwb
Seen Ip Man? True story.
jagerma5ter 1 year ago
@jagerma5ter What? No it isn't. He fled China during the occupation. That movie boasts some grand fight sequences - even if the actor who plays the Japanese General had had no martial training up until appearing in Ip Man - but is largely a work of Chinese propaganda. Don't refer to it for a history lesson.
the0tobes0machine 1 year ago
Big fan of Bruce Lee, Umm Bruce & Chuck were good friends..but sadly, Bruce did not train Chuck Norris they were sparring partners. I did hear once that Bruce helped Chuck do his roadhouse kicks though. Bruce Lee did not finish his wing chun training through his master Yip Man, he actually had a disagreement with him. Eventually Bruce learned from someone else, and obtained his Black Sash. Bruce Lee is a true Icon.
ryannunes 1 year ago
To the man saying Wing chun would get there asses kicked you have truly shown stupidity because 1 bruce lee developed jeet kun do from wing chun and wushu kung fu. Bruce lee was hand down the best fighter who ever lived. ps everyone stop with the lame chuck noris jokes everbody knows bruce lee trained chuck noris and just because you can do a spinning crescent kick and a round house doesn't mean your god lol.
seanybravo91 1 year ago
more than one way to crack a nut both techniks different but both work at last someone with wisdom=0)
alphaomega309 1 year ago
great
kungfudragon99 1 year ago
nice exmaple
alexluvlol 1 year ago
wow a visual explanation, so simple. That's just great.
zxcv73 1 year ago
haha i like it :-)
davelebonlapin 1 year ago
Amazing amaziing :D
Xkoxchoto 2 years ago
simply wonderful.............
SIMSPOLETO 2 years ago
wonderful......
SIMSPOLETO 2 years ago
needs no explanation. :D
Adameeriu 2 years ago
lol... gute metapher :D
rudierdem 2 years ago
this is a crappy compare....
Tschjae 2 years ago 2
not at all actually..
StL33T 2 years ago
well karate does have its slow and also technically movements where u not only count on strenght.....its exactly this prejudice which i despise.....shouldnt people experience a martial form before they can judge it....and besides isnt it much cleverer to train both beein able to slice a walnut gently and on the other side smash it hard.....to have something between is the goal.
Tschjae 2 years ago
THIS IS THE EXACT PREJUDICE I DESPISE.
I HAVE in fact done karate, not to the extent of which I did kng fu and muay thai but to the extent of what I know what I'm talking about (8months+).
Using that tool he used to crack the wlnut dd not just depend on brute strength, it was brute strength, he'd use the table and drop it on the wall nut. The tool he used contained wedges that magnifies the force of which is bing applied. If it was all brute strength, then use 2 sticks & try it. It doesn't work.
StL33T 2 years ago 2
just fyi to other readers, that reply was to tschjae
and the "prejudice" here was that he assumed I have never done the art before
StL33T 2 years ago
i agree, but nowadays karate is sport, and is hard to actually find someone that teaches the traditional one, thus making wing chun better for real life
qwertyuploader 2 years ago
lol
prac2 2 years ago
haha ! nice nice ^^
Timurhan1982 2 years ago