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  • As u can see with the new manga. Madara was resurrected by the undead technique. So its for sure that tobi is not madara. I believe now with this video that the person we see as tobi is n fact a decedant of madara uchiha.  He is old which is what his son would be and seems to know alot about the uchiha past and secrets.

  • ** SPOILER **

    We all know that Madara is in a weak state now too. I really wonder... if Kabuto in episode says this "You CALL yourself Madara now." And before that he called himself "Tobi". We'll see. Watch 221 and do some researches in the manga... it's really interesting, I don't think Madara really is Madara... I maybe think that Shisui is the one (him) and Madara being summoned... Not sure.

    Anyway Obito cant have Eternal... so no its not him.. I was wrong....

  • ** SPOILER **

    If you see the some of the newest episodes, included 221 and read manga you will see that Kabuto says "You call yourself Madara now" and "Madara" gets afraid when Kabuto uses the jutsu that summons a person you can't see. A person "Madara" is afraid of. Maybe "Madara" is his brother, and that the one being summoned is the REAL Madara, or Shisui ?... Or maybe he actually is Obito or something and want his body back. --- (Yeah the fake madara)

  • blinded ppl...tobi isnt madara .. isnt obito... tobi is the ten tailed inside obitos body..and he is colecting all the tails to get his body again back... he used madara to make ppl believe hes madara.. to blind them..he made this story with madara to make all believe that hes madara..

  • @naik2222 The mangekyu all depends on the person, and no it does not madaras mangekyu is a three circle connected ring with square pillars coming out to the edge of the eye from the side circles

  • Is in obito body becouse of his mangyeku sharingan power is similar to that of kakashi

  • @DjTobyOfficial Where in my post have i saidthat Tobi is Obito??????

    Read my post again... the word "Obito" is not in it.

  • @AnimeGamerCentral idiot he has 2 sharingan because he used one for izanagi so he had to swap it for a rinnegan.

  • @AnimeGamerCentral It's "okay" to have different thoughts, but I have a couple of reasons to back-up your Tobi is Obito theory, well first off when you said "madara doesn't fit the tobi personality" he could've just been acting like he had a different personality, so that nobody would suspect that he was Madara or something :P And even though it does kind of look like tobi spells obito, well that really doesn't mean he IS tobi, and besides Tobi even explains to Sasuke that he is Madara :3

  • @AnimeGamerCentral

    If you read chapter 510 you'll see that Tobi has the sharingan in BOTH eyes.

  • @AnimeGamerCentral but wasent the otherside of obitos face comletly crushed so how would madara use an eye tht has been completly destroyed then madara has been whering tht mask waaay before obito was even born he was even whering it wen he fought the forth which was also before obito was born so how would he get a body tht doesnt exist yet

  • IT IS MADARA YOU

    IT IS SOMEWERE BETWEEN NARUTO SHIPUDEN EPI 125 TO 135

    WATCH IT AT HULU.COM!!!

  • 1. Tobi is a liar

    2. Having the power of Madara doesn't make him Madara (just as Kabuto having the powers of Orochimaru doesn't make him Orochomaru)

    3. He has 1st hokage's powers (stealed/implanted/inherited)

    So, he's most probably of the Uchiha clan (but could be just a Power Stealer).

    I think he's Madara's brother (even looks like him)

  • @MrJuzzam dumb faggot how the hell could he have the eternal mangekyo sharingan if he's obito?

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  • shut up with whole tobi is obito crap i hear many dumb and ignorant people with their stupid theories . They have said dozens of times that he is madara in the manga. None of this he possesed obitos body BS. When he was taking of his mask it didnt show the other side of his face because sasuke hit him with ameratsu before he fully removed it. And im pretty sure that kakashi went back for obito because i would at least honor my friend and bring him home to be buried

  • I think "Tobi"is Madara and he hides so Itachi wouldnt destroy him

  • actually madara is immortal so it shouldn't be a surprise he is still alive

  • watch the vids oh hulu it is jap but has eng subs watch "fate" after saske kills itochi

  • Madara is Tobi. He hide as Tobi so people would think he is dead after his fight with the second hokage

  • Tobi=Madara Uchiha he says I Madara Uchiha will show the TRUE POWER of Sharingan... Then you see Tobis mask and a Sharingan in it. Shippuden episode 125.

  • okay here's my answer i just figured out...

    in some how tobi obtained madara's power so he might be able to use the sharingan at 100% full power thats wat he mean, he's not madara he is toby but with madara's power :P

  • Then Obito is a completely seprate person...? or obito is tobi -then wat u just said-...im sorry im just trying to figure this out...evryone giving me so many, "what they think is right answers"

  • okay i finally know who's that, thats the real madara not obito :D

    damn that dude still alive !

  • madara is not obito if he was how could he have fought the first hokage at the age of like 10

  • he's obviously Madara i hate it when ppl say he's obito <.< tho wonder to whom does that body belong? O.o was hoping he looked like when he was fighting Hashirama *-*

  • Tobi=Madara Uchiha

  • Tobi is madara uchiha becuz obito is in kakashi now,obito lives in the sharingan and thats how kakashi got his sharingan a girl translated obito's sharingan .

    HERES THAT!

  • the girls name is rin

  • Tobi IS Uchiha Madara...and he is the one who summonned Kyuubi...read the manga! He acts like a loser because he doesn't want the other to know his true power. BTW....Tobi is not Obito...Obito is dead!

  • i have a anime version everyone watch mine this really proves that tobi is madara so just look on my channel and the proff is on their

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  • Didnt Tobi (Madara Uchiha) die in Naruto Shippuden episode 125? When Deidara sacrificed himself to take down Sasuke?

  • omg he can teleport and he can't be touched by any ninjustu.... that's why he escaped

  • no... dude the episode is up watch it tobi lefted and went to talk with pain ..

  • tobi is just the nickname of uchiha madara

    my friend said that madara is the big statue in hidden leaf village not the statue of the hokages,the place where sasuke and naruto fought in naruto 3 i think

  • Tobi is madara Haven't you guys read the manga?

  • He said this"The true power of I,Madara Uchiha!"

    then he turned into red lightning...

  • Tobi is madara!

  • tobi is madara. watch naruto shippuden episode 125...and i heard madara's voice( its cool

  • yeah it is much darker and more powerful voice.

  • tobi is madara uchiha and hes gonna kick narutos ass!!!!!!!!!! MADARA FTW.. btw do u guys know that madara was the one that controlled the 9 tailes and made it attack konoha pshh ownage

  • Tobi = Uchiha Madara.

    Proven in naruto shipuuden 125 :P

  • it was proven long ago u douce bag

  • omg im tired of this, "its obito" it is clearly state many times hes madara uchiha not obito, the only reason u obito fans say he is cause u guys miss the poor kid, lets face it obito was only in the naruto series so it could be explained how kakashi got his sharingan. end of story madara=tobi x]

  • well its all cleared cause the new episode os Ship , tobi says he is madara....

    Btw is madara the huge statue in Leaf village? O.o

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  • Hmm..there is something misteryous about this,in a chapter when Tobi shows himself to Hoshigaki Kisame he says first:I've never expected it would be you,Mizukage..umm i mean Madara,maybe Kishimoto trying to confuse us if thats not true it would be like Kisame mispelled there is something fishy,what about danzo+that guy who falled off the river before Itachi killed the clan?Madara was mad because people choosed the main of Senju clan to be the hokage and why does danzo want's to be hokage somuch?

  • ok u ppl gotta stop he is madara n he is also the starter of 9 tails fox

  • there problems with both theries. Obito of course was crushed also why would he join the akatsuki. Madara has long hair hes old also the personality doesnt match but its more likely that tobi is madara. Or mabye even a an outcast or hidden uchiha member

  • i still don't see how people can go on about this obito crap -.-" The only Reason why you turds think it is Obito is because of his appearance! omg!.. His hair? wtf? so we would say that Minato is actually Naruto then? His right eye? lol it got freaken crushed under a rock!... Also the one thing that quite proves the whole obito theory ALL WRONG is that Kisame recognized him as Uchiha Madara... If it were Obito why would he recognize him as madara? if it were madara in obitos body.. also how?..

  • Havent you noticed that Naruto/Shippuuden isnt very realistic?

  • Well,how u say?If Uchiha Madara would be like he's Obito but that's not true anyway start thinking smarter first.

  • i believe that obito is the son of mardara uchiha however some incident happened leaving him to believe his father was dead when in fact hanzo obained mardara's left eye now the father and son are confused with one another because they lost the same eye. how obito survived the earthquake jutsu is a theory for later times

  • 1:00 tobi poses just like madara

  • thats a typical pose many characters have done ;D

  • then how is sasukes father hes name is obtio if he was alive he would of died agian cuaz itich killed his clan HOW IS SASUKES DAD????????

  • No, you translated it wrong. He was talking in second person. He said, "The sharingan's true power... My power... Uchiha Madara's power..."

    Pretty much, Tobi is Madara Uchiha in Obito Uchiha's body.

  • but i dont think obito is that old.

    what little flesh of tobi that we have seen have wrinkles, not scars.

    if madara really was in obito's bod, scars would make more sense.

  • I think you're right cuase uchiha madara had like bags under his eyes like in one chapter were half of his face is showingI could be both Obito and Madara at the same time

  • finally someone who undertands... ty dude

  • @thebabyfucker597 The latest chapter has proven that Tobi is NOT Madara!

  • @UltraAnimaniac101 yeah.. isaw it too on manga ch 559

  • @thebabyfucker597 thats first person...

  • obito shall be dead.. he was crushed by rocks..otherwise..that tobi only uses his right eye could explain it...obito gave his left eye to kakashi before he died...anyway... madara was only mentions but never seen in naruto so far..it could be him as well....

    but why should obito join akatsuki?.. there is no reason for it and he´s 99,99% dead..

    a dunno lol.. hope they will lift that secret soon -_-

  • tobi is madara cus obito had his whole right side crushed by a rock and gave his only good eye to kakashi. watch naruto shippuden 119-120 to see obito get crushed.

  • obito lost both his eye, plus look it up on google it ses he IS madara.thge part were he took his body is un known to me.but yeah he is madara

    p.s madara means spots :D

  • the last manga said that tobi may be madara but who knows it could be obito with madaras left eye just gonna have 2 wait and see

  • dofus tobi is obito how do yo no that and kakahi has one of obitos eyes kakaishes not really a uchia

  • my theory is simple madara ako tobi is using obito's body.

  • Is your theory based merely on appearance? In chapter 400-In hell, during Itachi's first confrontation with Madara, you can clearly see that he had his long hair.

  • madara is dead the first hokage killed him

    tobi onley uses one eye

    tobi is always joking madara does not

    with tobi start at the o and spell it out its obito

  • how did u know madara doesnt joke?

    o and btw itachi said Madara was powerful but he's a joke now

  • I think that he is madara, danzou forced to get his eye from him, and he covered his face with mask and hid himself as tobi and the scar of his eye..

  • his face was partially shown in chap 397 it's an old man's skin while obito is around kakashi's age but it is still possible that he's taking obito's body

  • omg!!!

  • Tobi is Madara in Obito's body.

  • wow this makes ABSALOUTE sence

  • The top of madara's hair is tobi's hair.

  • and waht is with the sharingan fromo danzou

  • nicked it from obitos dead body

  • Tobi is Madara:) Its true that he looks like obito but he isent him.. Obito died.. Madara says that he is Tobi to hide hes true idenity.. also he meets kisame later and then kisame says hes madara...And tobi/adara controled the nine-tailed fox to.. something that obito wouldent manage...

    (thats all i know so far)

  • but member Madara cut his hair to hide his identity lol

    and he shows his right sharingan to play wit u so if u believed he was obito u jus got played!!!!!

  • you have a point althought this might be madara and i which it is it might be obito cuz he lost one eye and in the latest chapters you can only see one eye

  • wait so tobi is madara and obito right??

    he's so funny :)

  • if you look at his hair, its the same as obito.... and the fact that he only shows his right sharigan shows a high possibility that He is Obito, as well as Madara, since he said he is Madara

  • Tobi=Obito

  • yes tobi is madara

  • i think tobi only said he was madara to freak out sasuke

    madara would have been dead by this time. he's old =3=

  • oh n' also obitos close friend is kakashi! Kakashi is still alive geez >.>

  • tobi cant be obito because he'd have to kill a close friend to obtain the next level of sharingan. before obito died.. his shringan was only lvl2

  • hey i have a question that someone needs to answer in a magna tobi gave pein an order but when pein told zetsu that he got a mission he said madara gave it to him+ madara created the akatsuki but tobi is the newest member pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease explain

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  • what if tobi madara and obito were all the same people think about it

  • When Sasuke met Madara Uchiha, Itachi's Mangekyo Sharingan automatically used Amaterasu. Madara later explained that Itachi had implanted Amaterasu in Sasuke's eye to detonate upon seeing Madara's Sharingan

  • Well it does make sense... Obito wasnt killed by itachi..

  • Yeah Tobi and Obito has the same eye with a sharingan intacted, but at that time, Obito's sharingan is still immature and Konoha has been established. Know what I mean? Uchiha Madara was one of the founding fathers of Konoha and the leader of the Uchiha at that time. He's Magenkyou Sharingan is also flawless. You can't expect an immature sharingan to have a Magenkyou Sharingan with perfection and to control a Kyuubi. And that was 80 years ago. Obito still does'nt exist at that time.

  • obito is tobi and he maybe useing madara sharingan duh 0.o

  • tobi is madarda

  • if tobi was madara, kishi would have shown his face in the manga a long time ago, its pretty obvious now that tobi = obito, and i can assure you we will know about it someday

  • Pretty obvious Obito is dead...

  • actually we didnt see him die + zetsu may have saved him because he was the one who insisted that he should be in the akatsuki. and madara started the akatsuki but tobi is the newest member

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  • there no madara uchiha

  • Tobi is obito -.- in manga kankashi hits tobi with lightning blade and when he is about to die tobis mask cracks in half and falls on the floor then tobi says "Remember me kankashi". So who ever thinks tobi is madara, you are wrong :l

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  • Lol :D

    What manga you read?

  • y r ppl saying sauske was raped by the akatsuki?

  • I wanted him to turn out to be Obito :(

  • yup it's true Tobi is madara

  • tobi is from uchiha i know that 0.0

    hes talking about protecting clan when akatsuki raped sasuke

  • ...When Akatsuki raped Sasuke?! O.o Ehhh?!?!

  • tobi isn't obito u fag

  • read manga chap 364 online and u will noe

  • Holy crap!!! Tobi is MADARA!!!!!!!

  • In volume 26 kakashis says that his behavior is just like Madaras how can that be true if tobi is a little moron!?!?!?

  • srry i made a mistake In volume 26 kakashi says that sasukes behavior is just like Madaras how can that be true if tobi is a little moron!?!?!?

  • wait, he does?

  • well, tobi is madara's disguise

    sort of like an actor

  • no I have read the manga it deosnt say my power I uchiha madara's it says my power,uchiha madaras power!!!!! he is refering to madara's power!!!! he never said that he IS madara he was refering to two powers 1his power 2madaras power!!!! he is OBITO!!!!!

  • um no he is madara

  • didn't the databook 3 of naruto states they are the same person? huh

  • ya it did...but why are we all fighting lol?

  • hum, i am not fighting,lol

    just stating it, if i was, hum, i guess i would place an angry face on my comment, XD

  • lol I didnt mean that we all were fighting I ment all the people that think tobi as madara they always fight with the people that think he is obito lol

  • oh, XD

    well, i think it is funny how they are fighting

    lol

  • That doesn't prove anything ... did you watch the coincidencies he have with obito?

    2 many!

  • Tobi is Madara! That proves it!

  • There like more than 1 people calling tobi madara. Its written in text yo its says he madara!!. HE MADARA IT WRITTEN IN THE TEXT BLACK AND WHITE

  • its not off of wikipedia! I actually wrote the info i know about him and I asked my friends about him.Infact i am a big star and a fan of the uchiha clan so i like to study about their people.

  • hey, i didn't say it was from wiki,

    i just said it sounded like it

  • plase rate my comment if it helps you understand!

  • He was also revealed to possess the Sharingan and claimed to be Uchiha Madara. When Tobi revealed his true nature to Kisame, the man recognized him both as Madara and as his village's Mizukage. The full nature of Tobi and Madara's full identity is unknown.

  • lol

  • Hidden Village: Leaf

    Ring: Tama (Sphere)

    Finger Position: Left Thumb

    Info: Tobi was initially seen as an associate of Zetsu. He appeared clumsy and was very polite in his speech. After Sasori was killed in battle, Tobi was eager to replace Sasori as a new member of Akatsuki. He eventually succeeded and took over Sasori's position in the group. He was then partnered with Deidara. After Deidara's death, it was revealed Tobi gave direction to Pain as leader.

  • lol, sounds like something off of wikipedia or something

  • soo what dose kakashi do after he figers out that his team mate is still alive? i mean i thoght that obito was still alive that got to be hard

  • obito IS dead silly ^_^

  • dont u get it obito is dead dead dead madara left the leaf village and no body said he was dead just might have died by old age which in order words saying he is not a problem he should be dead now so thats how he got clearly away in life by also killing the 1st hokage maybe

  • Hmmm.....I think Tobi isn't really Madara, or at least he must be Madara using Obito's body ;) Why? Well, why do you think Kishimoto showed only half of his face in the manga? It would be nonsense if at the end, when he shows his real face, it's just an older looking Madara. With this I'm not saying that he's Obito, I just think Tobi is something more than just Madara ^^

  • why in sam's hell would madara even think of using the uchiha pancake as a body? (even if that were to be true, then he's still madara regardless of the body)

    why would it be nonsense if its really just madara?

    lastly, if you think tobi is more than just madara/mizukage/uchiha legend...

    think "danzou" there are lots of hints pointing toward him. unless you don't read the manga

  • But....if Danzou would be Tobi, why wouldn't he let Naruto come to Konoha? After all, he wants Pein to catch him!

    Plus, Tobi and Danzou don't have the same hairstyle if you look closer :P

    There must be something more to it, if Kishimoto only shows one half of his face.

    Do you remember when Sasuke used Amaterasu on him? Tobi lost his mask, but we still couldn't see his real face! And when Kisame and Tobi were talking together, he took his mask off, but Kishmoto STILL didn't show us his face!

  • part1:i will counter your statement of hairstyles with a barrage of actual hints

    -madara has a grudge against the leaf, when itachi died, he said that the leaf is "no longer untouchable", pein came to capture the kyuubi,but until pein finds naruto, he will continue distruction. this is 1 reason why danzou would kill the frog

    -remember how kisame called tobi "mizukage"? if i remember right, danzou's "root" ANBU uses the same training method of hidden mist (where leader is mizukage)

  • -we saw part of madara's face,and it was wrinkly like danzou's

    -both madara/tobi and donzou hate the senju clan,which includes tsunade(and 3rd hokage, even if they are not related by blood)

    and finally:

    -remember when tobi said that sasuke "is finally on their side" ? i'm guessing they kinda saw sasuke as a threat and danzou's "root" anbu (sai) planned to assassinate sasuke because he was a threat

    hey, i don't really believe in tobi=danzou, but it's something to think about

  • danzou is not tobi

    cause their faces are too different

    their wrinkles are very different if you compare them closely

  • aww... it was just someone theory.

    and usually, i either destroy(not completely though) that theory or help it ^_^

  • lol

    i just think danzou is too ugly to be the hottie madara,lol

  • lol

    i just hate danzou >.>

  • lol, i hate him too

  • if you go to wiki and check tobi's descripton its says he is madara and it says tat he is asked how could he stil be alive and its says that he states it has something to do with the potencey of his chakra that has giving him his immortality

  • wiki isn't really that reliable

  • dudes tobi cant be madara because madara shud be dead of old age. it could be obito because

    kakashi made an eye transplant with obito so he cud get the sharingan.so leaving obito with one eye like tobi....

  • ok, "dude", there is a reason why there is a "spoilers" tag on the vid.

    if you knew your spoilers, you'd know that obito is dead and madara is immortal.

    :)

  • Part 2 of my comment

    Tobi cannot be Madara! The only way it you be possible is if Tobi had a 3rd eye... He gave away his right eye and his left one was crushed.

    Noobzorz

    And stop saying cliffhangers

  • don't you mean that tobi cannot be obito?

    anyway, i pretty much believe that tobi is madara

  • Let me clear this up for you noobzorz.

    Tobi is just Madara's code name for Akatsuki.

    Madara seems to want to hide his identity from Akutsuki. I have no idea why, since he was the founder of it...Madara has only revealed his identity to Kisame and Itachi.

    The only reason Madara is still alive is because his vast amount of chakra which is somehow linked to his life span.

    Obito is DEAD. D-E-A-D

    Madara/=/Obito

  • OBITO IS DEAD..

  • TOBI IS MADARA UCHIHA

  • Well Tobi Is Obito Pretty Much But, Obito Died And Tobi Is In His Body....I Think Thts Right ^^

  • the body of tobi is obito BUT uchiha madara is inside the bodie. Madara is who controls him

  • so then why did madara choose obito's body of all uchihas?

  • wow y do people think that tobi=obito his eye is missing because he went blind and took he brother's eye out and thats why he has his new sharingan eye tobi=madera

  • and uhhh ps i belive that Madara is not Tobie just as masstv said he wasnt even freaking around when konoha was made so everyone stop arguing already lol TOBIE is NOT MADARA ty^_^

  • thank you man your the first that has made any real sense on this whole issue of Mad being tobie well i hope that we find out soon ^_^

  • Tobi is Uchiha Madara's reincarnation, or has some people say Tobi is Uchiha Madara !! Read the manga before posting comments.

  • Why does modt people still say that tobi is obito....people go read the manga 399...in that manga tobi tells the truth abou itachi but he starts talking about the foundation of konoha....his fight against the 1st hokage

  • tobi is not madara because he want born when konoha was made

  • Theres things wrong with what you just said.

    Madara and Shodaime both founded konoha toghther

    and yes he was born. READ THE MANGA!