PMR-30 90 rounds in 25 seconds

[Nb1PatrioticAmerican]

wow but I wish you made one in 22lr with the same capacity!

[mgospeed31]

Sounds like your finger got a little tired towards the end lol! I maintain that this would be a decent carry weapon, for the sheer fact that you've got enough ammo to pin someone (a robber, mugger, etc) down to make an escape. They won't know it's only a .22, mag rounds are noisy, and they're only going to know that you're shooting at their ass!

[crazyfvck]

@mgospeed31 Indeed. It might not be a bad idea for a carry gun. It's extremely light at only 1.2lbs loaded, plus as you mentioned it has a high ammo capacity without having a mag that extends below the handle.

[samtaekwondo123]

Wow, no malfunctions?  I'm impressed.

[308Sharpie]

@tmzrox Which would be illegal in the US without registering it as an AOW (We don't have that bull in Canada, but then again most of our other laws are shit)

[anderberger]

wow your so cool

[amrelhomey]

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[DOG2568]

did you hit anything?

[DOG2568]

did you hit anything?

[emkplayboy6]

Dude you're beast with that gun, and that's a .22 mag??? holy shit sounds way loud!

[Humberto4790]

@emkplayboy6 It is .22 mag.

[bf2lover42]

@alfonsothewhite Okay, you have proven everyone you can't read.

For fuck's sake, a dude asked for one in .22lr and I replied that .22lr isn't usually very fond of high capacity pistol magazines. Usually pistols have a capacity of 10 rounds, high cap magazines are more common in rifles because they curve a lot.

Next time read before trying to correct.

[DEOXYS987]

@keltecweapons, i want one but theyre not legal in california :(

[GetMeThere1]

I never cease to be amazed at excited at Kel-tec's willingness to innovative--nor at the success at it!

[tcorourke2007]

4 on the paper.

[BigSean1992]

P.S. i want a RMR in .22lr with a 50 round mag :D oh god the mag dumping goodness love you kel tec

-sincerely, Sean

[bf2lover42]

@BigSean1992 .22lr is not very fond of high capacity mags on pistol frames. I don't remember any .22 pistol with more than 10-12 rds capacity.

Plus, they don't double stack that well either.

[jdseams]

@bf2lover42 You mean .22WMR? Not .22lr

No big deal boss

[kuan687]

@jdseams hello saya nak tanya KH kerja kursus aa kira dalam PMR tak? saya KT

[bf2lover42]

@jdseams I said .22lr because BigSean1992 asked for one in .22lr.

Next time check out what the person you're replying to is trying to say.

[kuan687]

@bf2lover42 saya nak tanya KH kerja kursus aa kira dalam PMR tak? saya KT

[308Sharpie]

@bf2lover42 Well there's the Ruger 10/22 Charger, but that's a rifle mag it uses, and a rifle receiver

[bf2lover42]

@308Sharpie Ahah, there is. But look at the curved shape. You can't exactly fit that in a pistol grip, you'd have to make something like a Tec-9 to have a pistol with a capacity of 30 rounds of 22lr.

[308Sharpie]

@bf2lover42 Very true, but the .22 Tec-9 (Tec 9 styled) uses 10/22 mags

[kuan687]

@BigSean1992 saya nak tanya KH kerja kursus aa kira dalam PMR tak? saya KT

[BigSean1992]

I WANT ONE IN .22lr!!!! i can shoot 9mm for the same price as .22 Mag...

[jd5179]

sweet ! im going to get one

[manny298]

NIce shooting... I think you can cut the time if you drop the mag and immediate reload without looking.... If you do that you may break the world's record...

[cabo02]

That is some serious firepower.

[GunRunna47]

what brand of ammo do u guys use to test out the PMR-30?

i know alot of brands will work but in the video whast are ya'll using?

[ezlog49]

Um, it has 30 round mags, not 10. That's why the video title says 90 rounds.

[308Sharpie]

@ezlog49 I think he's referencing "bf2lover42" comment that most .22 LRs have 10 round mags

[ScopedOUT2]

why do all .22s have only 10rd mags?

[desirefirst]

love the 22mag

[Stirlz138]

You guys need to take from the 80s model 93-R a bit...and "KSG" this gun up a notch or 3. Give it the extended thumb trigger guard fold-down deal.

Still... your systems rock regardless.

[thugzapper]

@gcornel2 - The keyholing was the result of bullet instability caused by insufficient twist. The barrel twist rate was changed from 1:16 to 1:12 which solved the problem. There were also a few tweaks to increase overall performance. If you have one of the "pre-twist" models, you can send it back to KT for a free upgrade.

[sparky0308]

I bought one of these as soon as I could and have shot at least a thousand rounds through it and it has not jammed once. You would think it would jam once just by odds of the numbers but not once. And it is very accurate as well. I wish they wouls make a 17HMR barrell for it since the mags are the same that all the mod would be was a barrell.

[shadowfax0417]

Do not look away from your target as you shoot, learn how to reload, with extra mags, without looking. Don't worry about empty mags, if you are on a practice range, use a blanket below you. First sight first, at this speed you cannot post sights. You did very well in demonstrating this weapon, very slow/fast moves, and positive lock.

Kudo's

greydog0417@yahoo.com

[ekylable]

@zombiesexist36 : zombies exist or zombie-sexist?

[cocosdad55]

Can I buy one of these in Cali?

[gcornel2]

Is this the gun with keyhole problems cause it was rushed into production if so has it been corrected yet?

[DAjiizzyKadutviel]

23 seconds hair trigger

[NetNinja01]

Why does this guy look like an over excited wanabe cop? Can we see the target please?

[encognito21]

Add a 50 round drum magazine, telescoping Glock stock, foward pistol grip, 8 inch suppressor & bridge mounted blue dot reflex sight. PMR-30 has been Officially Pimped!

[ContezHD]

i counted 25seconds -.- not 33

[xXblessedsonXx]

Only if the pmr shot in .22lr

[Makingnewnamesisdumb]

Nice way to blow $20.

[Shaggy2dope90]

yeah how many rounds did u have too put through it before it smoothed out?

[TheGhostLP]

@KelTecWeapons Yeah i noticed RIGHT after i posted xD sorry

[KelTecWeapons]

@TheGhostLP np! I know a made sure it was right before I uploaded the video, otherwise I knew I'd get hounded by youtubers ; )

[iodineclip]

is the .22 magnum is as good as the 9mm?

[shmuckling]

@iodineclip No, the bullet is mush smaller and it's less powder...but it's far from an underpowered round for anything smaller than a dear, may be even a bad guy :)... the 9mm is also supposed to be more realiable, though I never have a rimfire fail either, so that might be a bit oversold.....it's deff cheaper to shoot and less report.

[kilog55]

@shmuckling .22wmr has better penetration than a .38 spedcial so its not under powered for self defense

[shmuckling]

@kilog55 I didn't say it was underpowered, read the comment. To top that off, penetraion isn't a good thing when it comes to self defense, it means loss of potential stoping power, plus it's bad for any innocent bystanders behind the target....but that wasn't my original point anyway. 22wmr is a sweet little round, with good placement it should keep you out of trouble with no problem.

[kilog55]

@shmuckling i know i was backing up your comment, over penetration isnt my main concern stopping power is which is why i use hollow points and not fmj in my M&P or any other carry weapon

[shmuckling]

@kilog55 Oh, oops... my bad. Thanks :)

[44Magnum6]

@KelTecWeapons I clocked it at just under 25 seconds.

[44Magnum6]

@BeyondtheChaos1 Started at a late 8. Finished at an early 33. Less than 25 seconds.

[Prowler1]

lol that was 33 seconds

[KelTecWeapons]

@Prowler1 From the first shot, to the last is 25 seconds. Don't know where you're getting your numbers.

[Prowler1]

@KelTecWeapons lol i re-checked and you are correct....

[KelTecWeapons]

@Prowler1 ; )

[highwayhokie]

@KelTecWeapons close enough to keep the bad guys at bay

[DR1ZERO]

@KelTecWeapons Doesnt it go full auto?

[turboMATRIX03]

@Prowler1

first shot at 8sec

last at 33sec

[tacticaltrigger]

Recoil doesn't exist with this handgun......I must have one.

[birdman117BxR]

thats alot of fire power even thought it is only .22 mag 30 rounds should do the trick lol

[mikeb1444]

That's a good pistol right there. 30 round mags standard! It doesn't get any better than that.

[phantominca]

Give it a 6" or 8" barrel and 3-shot burst and it will be just like the HGN in RoboCop and will sell like hotcakes now that 2nd A FREEDOM is bursting out all around the nation and people are buying SBRs, silencers, and FA/Class III weapons.

A 6" or 8" barrel semi would be a good hunting pistol too.

[NKA23]

Wow...someday somebody is gonna go postal with one of those babies.

[proteasng]

As Major Payne would say, "If he's alive, he ain't happy."

[halogod1170]

I'm pretty sure a high cap .22 LR magazine tends to jam from the oversized rims . That's why they're are so few high cap .22 LR pistols.

[davism4a1]

un burnt powder = muzzle flash, damn i love it

[Maat922]

A liter of cola?

[mzherdev]

Shooter needs some work on fast reloads. With one swipe of the support hand you should be able to drop that mag down and pick up a new mag from your mag holders on your belt. Sloppy.

[KelTecWeapons]

@mzherdev Definitely sloppy. We weren't exactly going for fast magazine changes anyways. Just wanted to show how rapidly the gun could be fired. I think the point got across.

[lorenzolagarto0410]

ahora revisen el estriado, jajajajajaa

[bammies]

He even flubbed the first mag change. Impressive.

[randy25rhoads]

Oh Jesus, don't let that twat Carolyn McCarthy see this video.

[miacanes5]

Can you shoot snake shot rounds out of this weapon?

[KelTecWeapons]

@miacanes5 It's possible to fire them, but it's hit and miss on feeding.

[MountainBeautyQueen]

Any chance of ever having a threaded barrel? :)

[KelTecWeapons]

@MountainBeautyQueen Yes! It's in the works!

[Kiln223]

If you guys release a .22lr version I'll buy it in a heartbeat...cost of .22 mag is all that keeps me from buying one of these. These guns are awesome, I got to shoot one and it was very comfortable and stayed on target easily during rapid fire.

[intercooler2]

Where and how much? Just curious if you couldn't shoot .22LR out of it.

[danschex]

I want it

[ITSBRANDENYAEY]

Rapidly press 8 #FTW

[haus340]

I thought it was an awesome idea and I'm a HUGE fan of keltec firearms, they are cheap and fun guns for the range. However, I do work for one of the largest FFL dealers in the United States, and upon recieving 2 PMR-30s from KelTec, both suffered serious failures after about 200 rounds. Did we get a bad batch? Whats the deal? My customers love the idea of this gun and I'd love to provide them with it. Please let me know. Thanks guys!

[joeteejoetee]

.22 WMR is too expensive (no market competition).

I only buy 22LR for fun guns, and this gun looks like a lot of fun, if and when you offer a version of it in 22LR.You will have tripple the customers for it!

[curseofa5r5a]

that the kind of pistol i want to have with my in an emergency situation.

[1964dmacpherson]

Cool demonstration! Thanks! Magazine swaps were pretty smooth.

[IgorGiganskiANtiatom]

The pistol is GREAT now make a semi-auto carbine like the su-16 or the sub-2000

[KelTecWeapons]

@IgorGiganskiANtiatom Already being done! Google "Kel-Tec RMR-30"

[IgorGiganskiANtiatom]

@KelTecWeapons Thank you Kel-Tec! Keep up the good work!

[fatoni698]

@KelTecWeapons When you make the RMR-30 please advertise the magazines as built for the rifle! For Canada. Also, thanks for making great guns that fit around our laws.

[Shep0815]

It's about time someone made a .22 pistol that put all the room you have in the grip to good use. My Walther only holds 10, but there was plenty of room for a bigger magazine if they had wanted to do it. If you do make a 22LR version, please offer a threaded barrel option (suppressor for 22LR, but really the 22Mag could use one for a muzzle brake). I'm definitely going to get one of the .22 Mag PMR-30s though.

[PolishedTurd4Life]

man i want one

[JohannWendt]

damn i bet that could make a bear angry....

[IgorGiganskiANtiatom]

@JohannWendt And a cougar dead! Just don't use varmint ammo on large animals like bear...

[skyhop]

How tired was your finger?

[iChayce]

1. Use this in movies

2. Never need to reload

3. ????

4. Profit!!!!!

[heat45jc]

@iChayce 4. Steal underpants

[wise11978]

Already have tacks just waiting on the hammer.. Meaning i want one for christmas. I'll drive to FL

[sukiari]

That thing is hilarious!

I'm buying one.

[R5H4D0W]

won't kill someone or stop anything efficiently, but 30 rounds should be able to keep heads down for about 10 seconds, in the mean time you can do alot to gain a tactical advantage over an immobilized enemy

[MrLeathermantool]

@R5H4D0W sigh....... the .22 winchester magnum is no joke it has similar balistics to the 5.7x28

[R5H4D0W]

@MrLeathermantool mmm, just looked 5.7x28 up... its energy transfers slightly above 540J... while the .22WMR stays around 300. It might have the same ballistics so accuracy isn't an issue, but in terms of energy transfer give or take needs 3 rounds in rapid succession to match say... a round of 40SW JHP

[bibblebob]

@R5H4D0W

I think 30 rounds of .22 mag will put somebody down. Hell, even one round could put somebody down. It's about shot placement.

[IgorGiganskiANtiatom]

@R5H4D0W won't kill? People kill people with the wimpy .25(far worse than .22lr) don't play too much cod4 where the .45 needs 5 rounds to stop a man...

[R5H4D0W]

@IgorGiganskiANtiatom

An individual running couldn't be kept at bay during the initial contact and would likely require two or many rounds in such calibers. I'd prefer to save as much rounds as I can if I'm in a combat situation. .22LR calibers typically kill by blood loss, it'll kill given some time, time not in your advantage.

I've never played COD, but I've shot the .22LR at various organic targets... I'm not much of a pistol shooter though, I prefer my 8mm mauser

[millerusaf]

This is the type of handgun I'd lvoe to do a review on. I'm gonna have to find one somehow when I get back to the states next spring.

[Username7260]

i would buy it if .22WMR weren't that expensive

[aaronspuler]

Wish that they would have shown the target afterwards.

[MrLeathermantool]

I went to my hunter's safety class in Palm bay with the guy doing the shooting in the video.

[3ald3eaver]

I count 5 FTF's in Dave's review. Is there are recall?  What was the problem and the fix?

[Selectedmarksman]

I would very, very much be interested in a this pistol if it had an American style magazine release (positioned near the trigger guard, instead of the European style at the base of the grip) with magazines that dropped free.

[hicama10]

has anyone ever heard of someone ever attempting to fire .22lr out of this pistol. I hear the diameter of the .22wmr is only a little bit wider.

[CelticSouthland]

@hicama10 Do not ever even think about putting the wrong caliber ammo into a firearm!

Either obey all rules of firearm safety, or stay away from firearms!

[paulc43]

thats pretty fast for a fatboy

[Walter5734]

@mynameisasshole Thanks Comrade !

[Walter5734]

I wonder and hope they will come out with a rifle version of that pistol with the 30 rd clip ?

[mgschutze]

Sorry KelTec maybe you guys should change your approach of making cheap unfinished guns and go back to the drawing table. If you change your name, maybe hide for a couple of years and make dependable products you might get more customers. :/

[crazyalexx104]

is it offered in 17Hmr... 

[immikeurnot]

@crazyalexx104 Oh, that would be awesome!

[venturahwy76]

Put me in for one in 22LR also. I'd buy one.

[PrepSurvivor]

Is that officer Farva in the "security" shirt?

[cherrioes02]

@PrepSurvivor: No I was thinking Ronnie Barnhardt.

[lordhumungus69]

@PrepSurvivor He's probably shooting a liter of cola.

[paperkiller25]

@PrepSurvivor Its a Kel-Tec logo shirt. Their logo is on the back.... I think its kind of lame and doesn't say much for branding.

[mik22pik]

Well about time it hit the stores, long time waiting!

With a MSRP of $415.00 it'll be a hoot to shoot. Now all Keltec needs is to convert the Sub 2000 into the same round and mags call it the Sub 22m, what great tools to have out in the woods.

[cnknguyen]

Okay so this is interesting....what kind of ballistics have you measured with the short barrel length? Ive been following this gun and have heard various people yapping about "what they know" about ballistics, but what are the figures. Also, drop away mags would be nice.

[ootdega]

@cnknguyen

The PMR-30 reaches 1200-2000 fps, depending on the load. I've heard it's 1500 on average. It's also very, very accurate. The .22 magnum is close to a 9mm in energy and velocity.

[timeactor]

I want one! 

[Theriomalstrom]

The mags don't drop free!??!! that sucks....

[thebeetalls]

@Theriomalstrom the mag release is on the bottom of the gun, don't see much use for drop free mags since your hand will obviously be there already...

[KelTecWeapons]

@Theriomalstrom With 30 rounds you shouldn't have to change magazines very often anyways.

[humanentropy]

@KelTecWeapons god forbid we would have to change them often, but we might.

[fireball676]

these things will hit as hard as 320 ft lbs of force...thats pretty damn good

[81AmericanGirl]

I think I just fell in love! I've got to try that!

[tyu30]

How often or after how many rounds do you have to clean it ?

[maltieskitten]

What muzzle energy do you get using the CCI Maxi-Mag 40grain? Will it function using CCI 30grain V-MAX?

[1antisupercat]

when does the 22 lr virsion come out becuase when it does im buying it

[KelTecWeapons]

@1antisupercat A 22 lr version hasn't been announced, but it's possible!

[3255959]

@KelTecWeapons Yes a 22lr the size of a glock 19 would be ideal...The one made by scci jams like crazy...I heard this has some jamming issues..is this true? also how much is the recommeded 22 mag ammo cost for this weapon?

[C172Pilotdude]

@KelTecWeapons How many rounds could you squeeze into it chambered in .380 ?

[1antisupercat]

@1antisupercat gotcha ;)

[lanberr]

@1antisupercat dude why do u want the .22lr when u can have the .22mag now

[wild50gunner]

@lanberr probably because its cheaper to shoot

[Xxcodyxx66]

your so cool,,,...... not how bout you give me that

[joegiel]

Shooter should probably learn some proper reloading techniques.

Neat looking pistol though.

[kevo1264]

@joegiel

Explain your statement.

[Yogsothoth85]

as so many have said, please make this in .22 lr

[dirites]

please produce it in .22 LR

[tfoshohoe]

@dirites i like 22 mag because 22 lr in a pistol is weak but i still prefer 22lr rifle

[SuperSneakySteve]

My dealer can't get one for me! Waaaaaaaaa!

[mechredd]

So when is the 5.7x28 version coming?

[glsracer]

That's prestigious... Can't wait to get mine!

[MrHowsthisname]

nice , what kind of ammo are you using ?

[KelTecWeapons]

@MrHowsthisname The ammo used is the recommended CCI Maxi-Mag 40grain.

[MrHowsthisname]

@KelTecWeapons  hollow point?

[KelTecWeapons]

@MrHowsthisname No, we used full metal jackets, but it will gladly feed hollow points as well.

[NiemandBinich]

A sub 2000 in 22 mag would also be interesting.

[sandcrab132]

So much want...

[gsszuber]

Come on Kel-Tec, get the production ramped up!

[coitalyeti]

I am in love!

[phishintube]

when can i order one?

[bobpoptart]

Awesome. Still waiting for the 22 lr version.

[joesphx19]

@bobpoptart

I just checked with the company today, they are not confirming or denying a 22lr version but I was told to watch the web site for new models. Hmm, a hint maybe.