Just Cause 2 nVidia CUDA effects comparission ON and OFF

[aramoMusic]

dont you just love shitty music?

[fizzleking]

best water graphics in a game yet,not when u go below tho lol

[ThePsychokill3r]

@fizzleking crysis has the best water graphics :P

[armedziak]

miusic is anoying

[AliceinNirvanagarden]

Wow, water looks even more epic than it did before O_o

[IamTrimbler]

Well the difference between the hawk and the twin frozr II/OC is only $16 so I dont see why that would be a problem. And the 6950 would most defiantly be a waste. If I knew you in person I would just give you the $16, It's worth it, trust me

[MrCole56]

Did you know the ps3 graphics card is equivalent to a nvidia geforce 7000 series? It runs games good because windows is slowing down pc's. Xbox 360 is like Ati radeon 3200, Ps2 is nvidia geforce 3. Xbox 1 is nvidia geforce 4

[Yarach]

@MrCole56 + the consoles are mostly UNIX based. That is why android runs great on every device and linux runs on practically everything.

[Ruflcopta]

@MrCole56 No the problem with PC gaming isn't Windows. The problem is the DRM shit the developers add that needs to run in the background, bad coding due to many games ported from a console to PC, and lots of people purchase a high end GPU without thinking about how important the CPU is and they complain.

[n1k7873]

@Ruflcopta Yup bottleneck city lol..ppl getting beast vid cards with meh cpu is fail.

[hildegain]

@Ruflcopta Haha true that and games on consoles are optimized to all buggery so that you see model swapping and textures shimmering a lot. PC games tend to come with less removals of detail and less optimizations.

It's like comparing Crysis to Dead Island, one is highly optimized to run on most hardware and the other lacks many optimizations in favour of quality.

I can't believe people blame the operating system for slowing a system down though :O

[kokfah]

@Ruflcopta for me, all of them is important. from cpu, gpu, ram to hard disk. the faster they go, the FPS u will get. :)

[MrExillion]

@Ruflcopta could'n agree more... i always kill all TrayIcons that helps a little. (ofc not important tray Icon processes ;) )

[theshiznut]

@MrCole56 Where'd you get the info from? If so, very informative. :)

[Jeraguz93]

la configuracion raid que tienes, si te da mejora en rendimientoen el sistema operativo, ya que planeo realizar una configuracion igual a la tuya, nada mas que con 2 discos duros de 1tb a 7,200 rpm y 32MB Cache, crees que me convenga realizar esto?

[HenrikoAgustus]

@pastoranos Grappling hook is so very usefull in this game.

[TheEazyXD]

I want to swim there !

[Isaiah6517]

Whats the point when games still have 0 emotional impact 99% of the time. So we can have mass murders and orgies with very shiny plastic dolls.

[seriousman006]

@pastoranos cuz it makes the gaem easier,looks awkwardly nonrealistic or just cuz it should be an unlockable?cuz thts my main three reasons, i think it makes the character too unbalanced :p nvertheless... i had my share of fun with the game :3

[seriousman006]

ima just go out and say it...cuda or no cuda...its pratically the same :3

[natpjohsnon]

@seriousman006

I was thinking the same thing, Im using like a two year old ATI card and I run my shit fine. Not paying 500 for something I can't even see or have to stare at for long periods to enjoy.

[seriousman006]

@pastoranos it might not have the best story in the world :3 but it still makes me go back and wreck havok in panau so...i dont see why youd call it a shit game...but hey its your opinion and i respect it :3

[datomatax]

But how should i implement CUDA in just cause 2?

[Bobzilla183]

Looks nice :) Although personally i think CUDA isn't going to see much use from now on with directcompute 5.0. It may be more difficult to use, but direct computer targets pretty much all of the PC gamer market (most people have a dx11 card now).

[MrRevoluzzer]

@eagle8520 Get Nvidia for it's awesome "visual toys" Cuda,PhysX need to explain more? they give you giant improve on now days games : P!

[RAEHL1983]

Will this game runs good with my 9800 GTX+?

[MrRevoluzzer]

@RAEHL1983 I'm at least sure! no worries all models whit the second number being 8 is pretty kickass.. don't ever buy a card which has the second number starting whit 1-4... it's a crap : /

[mauritius147258]

@eagle8520 I am in the same trouble.

[MrRevoluzzer]

@mauritius147258 Nvidia if you want a overall better look in every single game.

[mauritius147258]

@MrRevoluzzer Thanks, man :D

[ABL36]

how do you get this? i dont know what CUDA is

[DjAralo]

ei ps3 works whit this particular system?

[Fritos775]

i grew some ballz and went ati

[randir14]

I played this game on a Radeon 4850 so it was a mix of high and medium settings without any of these fancy effects. I have a Gtx 560 coming today so I guess I'll be seeing how much of an improvement the Nvidia effects give the game.

[unintelligentgenius]

I'm actually surprised- My system sucks (9800GTX+ 1gig vRam, x2 AMD Athlon II 215 clocked at 2.7ghz -no overclock) and I have mostly no problems playing this. I get some slowdown here an there- but the game works well on my inferior setup.

[LL1K]

@unintelligentgenius and i cant get 20 fps on my high end system! with intel i7 and 6 gig ram, ati 5450 1 gig and i gets 15 fps on the lowerst settings

[MNation69]

@LL1K 5450?? that is not a good card, not at all.. try lowering your resolution to 1024x768 MAX! this game requires a much MUCH better video card than that.. try something like a 4850 or 5830.. when you are down in the 5450 (4450, 3450 etc.) your card is down to what, 64-bit? That is immensely killing your frames..

[LL1K]

@MNation69 yeah i finally found that out a couple of weeks ago when i installed starcraft 2 and it could barely handle it, im gonna upgrade to a better card soon though.

[metroid1122]

@unintelligentgenius this games is a gpu bitch, at lower resolutions i can handle it at max with 50 fps, now when i get to high resolutions i must go all way to minimum.

ps: my card is 8800gt

[serialkiller2476]

what is cuda use for

[quangluu96]

@serialkiller2476 accerlarting higher graphic like he show, better water quality using CUDA.

[serialkiller2476]

@serialkiller2476 how to turn it on

[neubtuber]

wat is wat?

[TheScure]

pfff! i will buy new video card, but now i really cant choose........

[e102ewan]

Where do you download the PC demo for this?

[Decenium]

@e102ewan

STEAM has a demo, probably downloadable elsewhere too.

[Scats64]

I see no difference :P

[CrAzY3AGL3]

@Scats64 then you retard need to look at water. noob

[MBP6705]

So can somebody tell me how consoles compete with this again?

[Mscorpion001]

Damn you ati....Now get to work Fu*kers.Develop some sort of cuda and physx support...

[imalwayswatchingu00]

ATI needs to make it's own version of CUDA and PhysX...

I know they have their own sort of CUDA, but I never hear about it..

[Usul573]

@imalwayswatchingu00

I wonder if OpenCL would work for this type of stuff or what.

[d3tach3d]

@imalwayswatchingu00 ATI has HAVOK which is used in a huge amount of games...no significant performance boosts over nvidia with that one. As for CUDA Technology. No game has used this architecture yet. I dont know why the poster put that in the title but w/e. I like nvidia for all the little things they do.

[Intel1502]

@imalwayswatchingu00 Havok - Physics by ati

[MrAndrejProductions]

@imalwayswatchingu00 You know, but you never heard about it... Sixt senese eh? :DDD

[imalwayswatchingu00]

@MrAndrejProductions ooooOOOOOooooh *spooky*

[Hosaka]

@imalwayswatchingu00

It's called Stream, but no developers have actually done anything with it. It's very disappointing.

[Fleabr]

@imalwayswatchingu00 I don't see why, PhysX so far has been just a marketing scam, flying leaves/papers and more rocks ? Seriously ? It's no wonder that aside from some small companies everyone is using Havok. And CUDA ? For this ? Are you kidding me ?

PhysX and CUDA will never work, no dev in their right mind would limit their game for half of their customers, unless nvidia is paying him big bucks, and thats why only small companies use them.

ps: I own both a 4870 and gtx 460.

[DN94]

@Fleabr

You do know that PhysX can work without Nvidia cards.... Trine? It uses it for it's physics. It's just a bonus if you have a Nvidia Card.

[omgYOUkilledLENNY]

does it make it lag a bit more?

[conyo985]

@omgYOUkilledLENNY

The added physx effects halves the performance of the game and any physx game I might add. If you want decent performance you need a GTX260 or a GTX460. Any less, then you have to forfeit some image quality.

[Philxtreme]

Its quite simple, games will always be most attractive on pc, because the resolution is higher, there's more RAM, and the technology used in consoles is always tried and tested in the pc industry first, and the advantages of the ps3's cell processor have yet to be used by any game.

[TheTechnoman55]

This game is about chaos and fun, little difference in water detail isnt going to make it in any way more fun to play 0_0

[LightCaster1]

Best looking water in gaming yet?

[etshArk87]

Every Game on PC is better graphicly!!

[starkillertoy]

cant tell the diffrent both looking good xD

[ceabo4u]

@starkillertoy no your wrong look clooser star

[starkillertoy]

@ceabo4u i no i no.it just the water look more strong when filter on.notting much.

[TheTrolol]

WhenCicadasCry is a fucking moron faggot.

[zebwalshe]

i hav ATI 5850, 4gb RAM, 15 processor.... i dont understand why it laggs on ym comp (32 fps) i know its not much but wtf?

[SNOWBOARDER1SAM]

@zebwalshe Thats weird i get a avarage 40-50fps on all max settings including aa

My specs

2.80 Quad core

4GIG ram

ATI HD 5770 1GIG

Windows 7 Ultimate

[hbojfhgmz]

se ve casi igual, es mejor el de Xbox 360, y mas en un Xbox 360 elite

[Evaldo777]

bahhh no diference, is better physx

[hopecandecieve]

Guys, I need to know if my opinion is felt by anyone aside from myself. Upon the first time I played Just Cause 2 after I installed a new set of SLI Nvidia 480s that I bought in tandem, my jaw literally unhinged upon the first time that I saw the tropical/beach areas of the game/map. lol Now the jaw unhinging is because I have really bad TMJ, so Im not expectimng anyone to equal that portion of the statement, but the being in absolute AWE part is what I am asking for others opinions about. lol

[iron888888]

cuda rULEZ

[bmxracer254]

Does this game have better graphics on pc or 360?

[R3n7on]

@bmxracer254

PC by far

[ZalmanRessurection]

@R3n7on

есесно на пк. там и куда и физикс и прочая хуита =)

[oksel100]

@R3n7on Xbox is better, i say this because mycomputer sucks.

It can't hacdle games from 2005 @(-_-)@

[leviathan94xxx]

@R3n7on just like any other game PC PWNS ALL CONSOLES COMBINED! of course i mean a good pc not the little dell that u have in ur office

[Xenosoo]

@R3n7on Yeah, but who plays Just Cause 2 for the graphics?

[xjames0x]

@Xenosoo Well we certainly aren't playing it for its gameplay...

[Xenosoo]

@xjames0x ...You're not...?

[xjames0x]

@Xenosoo Nope I bought it just to test out hardware. The game is just a gimmick really, the fun wares off after a while and the story is just laughable which might just be down to the horrible voice acting ;)

[theangrygimp]

@xjames0x Lol, I agree. Like a model, its pretty, but also pretty dumb. And the horrible AI, lol.....

[gabrocki]

@R3n7on consoles are better

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA good joke aint it? xd

[gabrocki]

@R3n7on ok, so again. what does CUDA (and PhysX do)? i didnt see much difference so thats why im asking. and im ognna get a GTX560Ti, probably not the best, but best bang for the buck, as people always say... u mentioned cuda requires at least a high end card OR SLI config... a GTX560Ti should be enough, right? an MSI N560GTX Twin Frozr II OC 1GB GDDR5 vga. this is just the future, i dont have the card yet, but it should be enough, right?

[IamTrimbler]

@gabrocki I have that card and I can play this game maxed with 8x aa. Havent had a game yet get my fps below 30. fuck I get 60+ in crysis maxed sometimes

[gabrocki]

@IamTrimbler fuck YEAAHH! :D

i found out what physX does, i watched some videos like Mirror's Edge with and w/o physX. but i still dont know what CUDA does :O

[IamTrimbler]

@gabrocki CUDA is nvidia's computing architecture. So this is like having your gpu directly render the water. And yes the 560ti hawk is what I have and it shreds ass... in a good way

[gabrocki]

@IamTrimbler yes you said you have that card too in your last comment. quote: "I have that card"

:D gonna have the twin frozr II/OC though, not the hawk. its way too expensive for me, for that price i could get a sapphire HD6950 2GB which is better for 1080p, and it has dual fans too. well not a twin frozr but enough for me

[MrSiickness13]

@R3n7on does it fuck pc is so glitchy with this game...

[Quasax100]

@bmxracer254 what type of question is that.. pc beasts all over consoles

[topgear93]

@bmxracer254 even on my laptop it looks better than 360

[jsquad192837465]

@bmxracer254 Consoles have never had better graphics over a PC game if there on both systems.

[iwhitecastle]

@bmxracer254

pc gpu cost more than your xbox lmfao.

[Argoon1981]

@iwhitecastle That is not true mine HD 5770 is 170€ and is far better them the xbox360\ps3 at game graphics, i don't have this game but for example i can play Crysis with all in high at 1680x1050 and never fall bellow 30 fps.

[iwhitecastle]

@Argoon1981 im just saying these fools think consoles graphics are better than pc. when or gpu cost more than their xbox and ps3. i have a gtx 480. just bought it about a week ago $523 thats with tax. it feels like a 360 cause it over heats lmfao. 51' - 61' c

[xXlYlacXx]

@bmxracer254 omg... PC Always have best grafics..

[aarieaaron]

@bmxracer254 no 360 by far

[JohnCarpenterGaming]

@bmxracer254 PC!

[mastergamer987KA100]

@bmxracer254 well, obviously (...)

[chipaputalaguea]

@bmxracer254 pc or 360? or pc or ps3, cause the graphic card of the ps3 is better than the 360, but 360 has more ram than ps3, and ps3 have better cell processor than 360, but he response you

[bombach007]

@bmxracer254 on PC

[fannypenis]

@bombach007 He got is answer 8 month's ago..

[ulef19]

@bmxracer254 It's just more easy to play with joystick and it has great graphics too in the consoles, but pc has the best graphics.

[vaughnscheunemann]

@bmxracer254 LAWL is that a question? PC is always better. :P

[fuunguus]

@bmxracer254

lol, that is the dumbest question I've seen in a while. Some horrible console ports may have equal graphics on the pc and 360, but none will have lesser graphics on the pc.

[LilPres0]

How would a NVIDIA 8600GT work with JC2? BC2 ran like shit, PS3 is fantastic, but a good pc is always better...360 just doesnt even fit in the equation lol forget that. Thanks for info!

[Niklasdiver123]

I have around 90 fps while playin just cause 2 with my gtx 285. when turn GPU water effects on it goes down to 30-45 fps.

[gambuloso]

song name pls? :)

[LordNeb]

Hey hey,

any tips? i've got a GTX 295, cuda water only works when i disable SLI.

updated drivers.... im stuck...

[Mankkubus]

So, in consoles DX9

In PC only DX10

Fuck you Square Enix, Eidos and Avalanche Studios!

[ThePsychoGamer1337]

thats it? wow, crysis looks just as good, if not BETTER and for one, who plays a game to stare at water?

[LordNeb]

@ThePsychoGamer1337

that's a really weak statement to make. Sure crysis looks better, but who wouldnt want better graphics? cuda water brings that to the table.

[angelicnisley17]

JC 2 gameplay beats any game on the market place right now! Their particular physics basically makes the game far better when compared with almost any other. From blowing things up, to skydyving, its simply magnificent. If you want to have a shot at it for totally free, navigate to JC2DownloadXcom (replace X with . ).

[gordoput0]

la calidad grafica del agua en crysis se ve mejor me parece.

[Niklasdiver123]

@gordoput0 Man youtube is english, so please speak english or get out.

[gobbybobby2]

@Niklasdiver123 Youtube is not ''English''

[Licardo7]

@Niklasdiver123 wow, u would think a website is tied down to a curtain language or nationality 

[ferna2294]

I have a doubt, I´m to change my 8600GT for a GTX 480, should I install Seven 32 bits or 64 bits?, because I have 4GB RAM and I´m not sure of what to do...

[Burty117]

@ferna2294

Go 64-Bit, then you have the choice to upgrade your RAM memory in the furture plus you will get the whole 4 GB instead of 3 - 3.5GB instead and see a slight performance improvment in certain programs that take advantage of the 64-bit OS, 32-bit Programs work fine as well.

[ferna2294]

@Burty117 I will :) ...

[Spetznaz]

thats all? lol

[Mareknrify]

R3n7on: I have following configuration: 8800GT for graphics display and GT240 as dedicated PhysX card. Is there any possibility how to set GT240 for computing CUDA effects in Just Cause 2? I tried to use /dxadapter parameter but it doesn't work. Does this game support it? Thanks for answer.

[MagnuM2980]

wtf i can't see any difference from bokeh on and off

[maz12004]

Bokeh!

[Glaruf]

Not that much of a difference, I thought there would be something more than water effects.

nVidia should pay the developers more next time.

[selo2010]

@Glaruf true that they have the money but not the desire i guess they soud pay software and games companys to implement cuda in more producsts

[MrEduardKhil]

How do I turn on the CUDA effects, I check the box but nothing changes. Also, I tried to download the CUDA drivers from Nvidia but it still doesn't work.

[wfzone]

Hola bro, esos efectos se pueden activr en el menud e juego?? tengo una geforce 9800gtx+, estoy seguro que esta tarjetita todabía puede :D

Salu2 y bye!

[CradleToCoffin]

do you think just cause would work on a Nvidia 7500 le ?

[Usul573]

@CradleToCoffin

Nope, the 7000 series has just DX9, you need a DX10 card and Windows Vista/7

You can get a card for $98 that is plenty powerful and good, but if you're still using XP you're in trouble.

[Crysis2ful]

But what video card you have? case for the GTX 275? because I have this effect active qundo and water should not be fluid

[larsenmark277]

Not the big thing

[EvilLamas]

I have a gtx 295... and I can't enable boekek filter becasue its not in the options menu! But with everything else but aa maxed (that's at 2x) i get only around 25-60fps usually around 30-40 with 6gb ram and an i7 920:(

[Vivopriset]

@EvilLamas Take new drivers from NVidia if you didn't ;)

I got the same problem with my gtx 260M and with the last driver I've got now the option :)

[byteusa]

What kind of FPS hit does it take when enabled? Also, how do you disable, enable on the fly like that?

[Adventfred]

@byteusa

30-50%

[brotherofhumanity]

Nice graphics. However, this game will never beat Crysis in graphic competition

[wuyanxu]

may i ask how did you get the game to render on ATI card?

i have 5870 and gtx260, gotten PhysX Mod 1.02 to work in FluidMark and NFS Shift. but can't figure out how to get this game to work because it's not use PhysX, it uses CUDA that requires the game to be rendering on the CUDA card.

[bucktown212]

I would like to know this too R3n7on how are you using a ati gpu as primary and nvidia for cuda?

[gunjakk555]

does ATi have this Cuda thing of its own...

[flamingaxe791]

Cuda is just a gimik, my 8 core cpu can easily handle that shit.

[R3AP3R664]

hey dude what track are you uaing ... i like the song .. its kool

[tom69pl]

I guess PS3 version doesnt have the CUDA effects right?...

[R3n7on]

Actually is what i use. A a HD4850 for render and a 9800GT fpr PhysX/CUDA

[veyron92]

@R3n7on

does it work well and is it difficult to do it?

i've got a HD5800 and I'm bummed down that my just cause looks the same as on the 360/ps3

[R3n7on]

@veyron92

Just Cause 2 for PC is far from looking like the console version even without those effects.

[SwissJustMe]

@veyron92

rofl you are so funny

[SidneyXda]

@R3n7on you can put ati and nvidia card in the same machine?

[Venddenta]

@R3n7on For that do you need a old driver? or can i use my 9500gt with my 4890 with all the latest drivers?

[MFaheemAkbar]

@R3n7on how 2 use 2 cards one for rendering and one for physx

[vermillionh]

buen video yo no entendia q coños eran esas 2 opciones graficas,,las activava y decia: que putas??? cual es la diferencia?? bajarme los fps? jijijiji ahora se que es asi q los desactivare puta agua marica XD

[MultiEliteKiller]

can i install nvidia cuda and than i have the effects ? ..

[wouterr20]

Does this also work with ATI video cards?

[R3n7on]

nope

[aceOFspades7121]

@R3n7on yes it does..im running this on my ATI HD 5650..... and it runs well on all high settings with out any lag

[johnie1992]

@wouterr20 Yes, you can have a primary ATi video card an a secondary Nvidia card (a cheap card) for CUDA.

I have an ATi 5970 as primary and a 9600gt (costs $60) dedicated for CUDA and Physx.

So if you have an good ATi card you can get a second card, cheap nvidia like an 9600gt or an 8600gt for about $50 to $60 and have these Cuda effects together the the ATi's power ;)

[SwissJustMe]

@wouterr20

yes with an additional nv card

[ZeroMemPtr]

@wouterr20 lol, ATI doesnt even got PhysX

[clondan1]

Why Won't the Just Cause 2 demo from steam work on my computer. all other demo's work on my computer from steam and i have windows vista........why won't it work, i keep getting a error message after i download it and try to launch it? WTF please help!

[tigerf117]

@clondan1 Steam forums! How do you expect someone to help you here with no information about your system, you don't specify what the error message says etc.

[R3AP3R664]

@clondan1

this is a win 7 game for DX11

[CheY47]

no big difference lol :) execpt for the gpu water ....... but if you put very high for water details :) there will be no big difference

[jonathan46jonathan]

not a big difference

[PriditProductions]

Pretty long video for a short graphics comparison.