Dear Altratronic, I haven't read the book Training For Mass but in reviewing the book's index I found no mention of Nautilus equipment which leads me to believe the author either doesn't understand full-range exercise or doesn't endorse it. A few conventional exercises can provide full-range resistance but they are the exception. I am not an enemy of the barbell but if you want maximum returns from your efforts you are much further ahead training on equipment that provides full-range resistance.
that range of motion looks dangerous to the shoulder joint... im all about full range of motion but i don't allow my clients to hyper-extend like that in their workouts..... lets not forget that we are not casey viator... he was a legitimate freak of nature
@andycf87 I've used a machine like this (both made by Nautilus and another manufacturer), and can vouch for the fact that the shoulder joint is not as stressed as it may first appear. The machine is constructed in a way that effectively isolates the back muscles; though the shoulders have to move through a wide arc, they support very little of the weight being moved.
Dear CONSTINGACY, the size of you massive forearm and shoulder is in inverse proportion to the size of your brain. As Arthur Jones said, you don't have to be a genius to use his equipment properly but it helps if you're not an idiot!
I first used the Nautilus Pulllover in 1977 and made great gains with the machine along with pulldowns, deadlfts, rows etc. probably the best nautilus machine ever made
The HIT crowd seems to forget or ignore the need for full-range exercise. Intensity of effort is important, perhaps the most important factor in getting good results from exercise but to get optimal results you need to use tools that provide full-range exercise
@MisterNautilus What a load of crap My right forearm/ shoulder is massive from masturbation.And that is a small back and forth motion with minimal load. XD
Dear Altratronic, I haven't read the book Training For Mass but in reviewing the book's index I found no mention of Nautilus equipment which leads me to believe the author either doesn't understand full-range exercise or doesn't endorse it. A few conventional exercises can provide full-range resistance but they are the exception. I am not an enemy of the barbell but if you want maximum returns from your efforts you are much further ahead training on equipment that provides full-range resistance.
MisterNautilus 6 months ago
that range of motion looks dangerous to the shoulder joint... im all about full range of motion but i don't allow my clients to hyper-extend like that in their workouts..... lets not forget that we are not casey viator... he was a legitimate freak of nature
andycf87 6 months ago
@andycf87 I've used a machine like this (both made by Nautilus and another manufacturer), and can vouch for the fact that the shoulder joint is not as stressed as it may first appear. The machine is constructed in a way that effectively isolates the back muscles; though the shoulders have to move through a wide arc, they support very little of the weight being moved.
Tigerpaws9097826 2 months ago
Dear CONSTINGACY, the size of you massive forearm and shoulder is in inverse proportion to the size of your brain. As Arthur Jones said, you don't have to be a genius to use his equipment properly but it helps if you're not an idiot!
MisterNautilus 7 months ago
does someone know where can i find casey`s routine from the 28 day experiment with arthur jones ??????
givemevagina 8 months ago
I first used the Nautilus Pulllover in 1977 and made great gains with the machine along with pulldowns, deadlfts, rows etc. probably the best nautilus machine ever made
odessafile75 9 months ago
The HIT crowd seems to forget or ignore the need for full-range exercise. Intensity of effort is important, perhaps the most important factor in getting good results from exercise but to get optimal results you need to use tools that provide full-range exercise
MisterNautilus 11 months ago
@MisterNautilus What a load of crap My right forearm/ shoulder is massive from masturbation.And that is a small back and forth motion with minimal load. XD
CONSTRINGACY 7 months ago
@MisterNautilus The HIT guys I'm aware of all say a full range of motion is important. You ever read Training for Mass (2nd edition)?
altratronic 6 months ago
Wow what a monumental amount of flexibility! Casey the beast!
RHamWilliams 1 year ago